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Posted: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:00 pm

Jake McGregor wears a white golf shirt, shorts and sandals as he sits on a low stool and has what amounts to more of a conversation rather than a sermon about God and Jesus Christ.

Some 30 people, mostly dressed in T-shirts and jeans, sit either in comfy sofas and bar stools while listening to McGregor's laid-back talk in the One Eighty Teen Center building in Lodi. Some are following along in their Bibles; others are just listening intently to McGregor.

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  • posted at 3:02 am on Wed, Jul 30, 2008.


    Hi Billy! Your baseless and inane extrapolations are amusing as they come from a self-professed lunatic.

  • posted at 5:45 pm on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    You seem to want everything, Girard.You want to stand in judgement of gay Americans, but you want not to be identified as such. You want to be viewed as a benevolent champion of imaginary gay friends who seem to populate your off-the-blogs life, yet you want to be crystal clear in relaying your distaste for all things gay.You have conflicts, Jerry. You can't even keep your lies straight.

  • posted at 5:40 pm on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    Where you come up with this nonsense is absolutely amazing.""You", huh? "You" who? I thought you weren't speaking to me?As to where I "come up with" this "nonsense", as you call it, is from you. The most infuriating stuff I post is taken directly from your own insipid blogs.

  • posted at 5:36 pm on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    No hatred; no homophobia; no condemnation..."[blah blah blah]You should contact the Sentinel, Girard, because someone is using your name again.They, posting as you on another thread, stated that homosexuality is a sin and wrong and the poster hated homosexuality.I'm sure you'll want to get that cleared up with the moderator right away. You'll not want people getting the idea you're an up-tight judgemental Christian who would say such things while hiding in plain sight behind the tissue pages of his bible. That would just be wrong, huh?

  • posted at 3:40 pm on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    No hatred; no homophobia; no condemnation; no finger-pointing; no accusations; and no rejection.Where you come up with this nonsense is absolutely amazing. But fear does have strange affects on people.

  • posted at 2:17 pm on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    So - why all the fear?"Yeah. What's up with all the hated, Girard? Why the homophobia? Why the condemnations, the accusations of immorality, the finger-pointing of sinner! and rejection of gays?You self-righteous religious zealots are an odd lot.

  • posted at 10:26 am on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    It never ceases to amaze me how some people simply make things up as they go along. I've not rejected anyone here based upon their opinions and certainly never based upon their faith, whatever that might be. Most 'reasonable' people understand that true Christians do not reject people - they reject sin, including their own sin. It is that simple.Those who do not choose to believe in Christianity are certainly free to believe and behave as they choose as long as their actions do not violate the law (man's law). While Christians have a firm foundation as to what happens to those who reject Christianity, they themselves have no power - nor do they want the power - to judge or condemn anyone in this regard.Yet it comes down to fear that causes people to believe that Christians are condemning them. I have always believed that those who choose not to believe in anything have absolutely nothing to fear. So - why all the fear?

  • posted at 10:07 am on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    As in your case, Girard, it has caused you to suspend reality and reject anyone who doesn't join you in your flight to fantasy land.

  • posted at 9:43 am on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    The fear of Christianity on this forum is incredible. Or perhaps it's the realization that we only have a finite period of time here that forces those who have no faith in anything to attack others' comfort and belief in something greater than ourselves and beyond the confines of this small planet. Fear does result in so many different reactions.

  • posted at 8:08 am on Tue, Jul 29, 2008.


    You tell 'em, Metric.What this country needs is to devolve into a full-on hard core Christian Theocracy, right, Met?Yes, this culture must be crushed, destroyed, obliterated and vaporized in the name of the one right true holy almighty God in-heaven-oh-praise-Baby-Jesus.It will be just like the Taliban only good because it's all about Jesus.Are you feeling it, Metric? How's this for a cool motto, "USA: All Jesus all the time." Even the TV stations will have to turn biblical. Think about it; 24 hour Jesus - nothing but the bible.I know, huh? I knew you'd like it. What we need is Jesus for President (GOP of course). Talk about faith-based initiatives!! Whoo-EEE!

  • posted at 4:19 am on Mon, Jul 28, 2008.


    Young people have always questioned traditions and God. Traditions change but the gospel message must never be altered, sugar coated, watered down, or left to personal opinion, to please the unregenerate. It's must confront the culture and it's values, which are based on everything but the Bible. Jesus met the people where they were but confronted, head on, the culture of the day.I pray this setting teaches the Word of God and His attributes in their totality. Anything less amounts to creating a new religion, apart from God.



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