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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:00 am

It is truly shameful that one who rejects the Bible’s truths (David Diskin’s letter of Aug. 3) feels compelled to twist God’s Word and revise U.S. history to support the atheist lie that America was not founded upon Christian principles.

Defeating Diskin’s entire Strawman Army would take a hundred years of letters to the editor, but let me kill just one today. In support of his perverse abuse of the Bible, he marches out the atheists’ favorite “patriotic” strawman, the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli.

Atheists like Diskin put their faith in a misreading of one sentence in Article 11 of the treaty, which merely assures a Muslim ruler that our government is not a Christian theocracy.

That sentence reads: “The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” (avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796n.asp)

Those who rely upon that single sentence incorrectly infer an explicit denial of the incorporation of the Christian worldview (not “religion”) in America’s founding documents and, therefore, in our form of government. Such people believe that this irrelevant treaty (it never went into effect) is more authoritative than the Constitution and all of American history. How silly is that?

That sentence did not say — and it would be a lie if it did — that the Christian God wasn’t mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence, at least one of which is an explicit prayer to Jesus Christ “appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world (John 5:22-23).”

It didn’t say that the Christian doctrines of free will and original sin weren’t, respectively, the basis of each American’s (even atheists) individual sovereignty and the “founding fear” of sinful people in power; which fear is the premise of the Constitution’s doctrine of republican government that is delegated only enumerated powers that are limited by being divided and “checked and balanced.”

The Constitution is founded upon the most empirical of Christian doctrines — that people are innately inclined toward sin, a doctrine explicitly rejected by atheists who believe that people are born “basically good” (least morally neutral).

Michael Nedderman

Citrus Heights

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  • Michael Nedderman posted at 1:28 am on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Mike Nedderman Posts: 63

    OK Mr. Diskin, this comment, mistakenly posted to Ms. Figueroa's letter, belongs here:

    You disappoint me Mr. Diskin. I anticipated much better from you.

    My letter above thoroughly refutes your use of the Treaty of Tripoli—and you don’t provide a substantive response? Please note that this is the second time I have layed out the following detailed litany of how you have utterly failed to address the clear, cogent, and concisely expressed points made in my 8/10/13 letter.

    In your comments on Shawnte Figueroa’s letter (“Is U.S. a secular nation or a theocracy?”), you predicted that I would insult you—well, it appears that you have “beat me to the punch” in that regard with a response that can only be described as boorish—gaping your mouth—please, Mr. D, spare me and the other readers—such bad manners!

    In addition to thoroughly refuting your use of the Treaty of Tripoli, my letter also provided you with the Christian basis of, and the connection between, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, facts about which you seem totally ignorant (my next letter elaborates upon the Christian nature of that connection).

    Please tell me, Mr. D, why your response here isn’t an admission that you cannot respond, and that you are conceding with your boorish non-response. Wouldn’t it be better to just humbly admit that you are wrong?

    Since you have conceded (even if you object, it is so, so, so very obvious), I hope you are honest enough not to ever use the Treaty of Tripoli ever again (I’ll be watching…). And, because of your concession, that prohibition also applies to you not ever again claiming that the Founders didn’t use their Christian worldview when incorporating Christian principles into the Constitution (yes, that was also in my letter).

  • David Diskin posted at 8:59 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    David Diskin Posts: 185

    Mr Nedderman, since you requested multiple times for me to respond to this article, here I am.

    My official response is:



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