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Posted: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:39 am, Thu Nov 22, 2012.

This last election says a lot about our nation. People voted, or chose not to vote, for a fundamental shift in our country that will be felt for generations; from our fiscal policies to our national security.

I hope all of you remember 9/11, and how quickly our country resolved to protect our citizens and our homeland.

Now fast forward to Benghazi. It's been well over eight weeks and we still don't know what killed four brave Americans. The news press tells stories of seeing weapons covered in blood.

Imagine being an American on foreign soil asking for increased security measures and being denied; being involved in the heat of battle, mortally wounded, knowing you're going to die — and knowing your government was not responding, even though military support could have been there within minutes.

Imagine being the mom or dad of your son or daughter, and watching as this administration came out saying a movie caused the death and destruction. Now watch as a parent, wife or daughter waiting for testimonies about what really happened.

The sad thing about all of this is the trail has gone cold and we may never know the story or capture those responsible, nor will we get the real story from this president.

After Hurricane Sandy, the press reported New Yorkers Dumpster-diving for food while FEMA offices were closed due to weather.

Remember this is the government that you want handling your health care. Unemployment spiked again; employers are cutting back due to Obamacare and the increased burden it's going to put on their very survival. The stock market is in free fall. The day after the election it dropped 300 points, one for every delegate he got.

Folks, we just sold our birthright, and for what? You put in the answer. For each of us it will be different. This is a sad time for our country, and let's just hope it doesn't get worse. There is a lot to lose, and I hope America doesn't experience everything this president has in store for us. Remember Russia; he'll have more flexibility after he's elected.

Joel Wilson

Lodi

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147 comments:

  • Robert Chapman posted at 5:01 pm on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Tea Party? Apparently Mr. Lucas apparently doesn't believe his liberal poundits who have declared the Tea Party officially "deceased". Borrow MORE money? Yeah, just what America needs to dig the hole deeper. We are so far in debt now I seriously doubt we can ever recover. That is the liberal idea of how to make America come "roaring back" is to borrow yet more money. Without further debt it will take 3 generations to pay back what we already owe. And they can't see the fallacy in that?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:13 pm on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Waaaa.....Nothing amuses me more than whiney liberals.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:54 pm on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe B: Good one...mrl personally stopped the bleeding...is that fact or fiction.

    Robert: There you go again!! Flipping out facts as though they are the truth...wait...they ARE the truth!! However, they are received by liberals like the fact that the Congress spends the money and that the liberals took over in 2006. Dodd/Frank anyone? Freddie/Fannie anyone? Lame duck president anyone??

    OMT: MOST of those "jobs" are part-time

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:34 pm on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You do realize that if you wrote nothing it would have the same intellectual content as to what you wrote. I think you should continue though for your mindless stupidity only helps the Liberal cause.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:04 pm on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Oh boy, the kindergarten game of "no I am not, but YOU are". How adult is that?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:59 pm on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Mr. Chapman, a liberal doctor would look down at a deceased patient and then brag about how he stopped his bleeding problem.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:44 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Again with the projection. Always accusing others of what you do on a daily basis.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:44 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    The difference is we are continuing to grow. Those countries that did what you wanted to do went into another recession. We did a stimulus and are slowly growing our way back. If the tea party types would get out of the way we could roar back but unfortunately they still have the power to screw it up. We need to borrow money now and start to rebuild our infrastructure.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 10:32 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Pat, if liberals need "facts", they simply invent them. Reality has nothing to do with most liberal "facts".

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 10:29 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Soon after Bush took office, the U.S. economy officially fell into a recession (inherited from the Clinton administration) which lasted from March 2001 to November 2001, as measured by the National Bureau of Economic Research. There is always a lag in job growth after a recession officially ends, and the low point for private-sector employment was not reached until July 2003, when it fell to 108,232,000. By October 2005, which would be 27 months after the job slump ended, the U.S. had 112,491,000 jobs — an increase of 4,259,000 jobs. That’s nearly identical to Obama’s best 27 months after the recession. So the jobs Obama is crowing about is a cyclical happeniinng and nothing he made happen.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:12 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Are there unicorns in your universe Bob?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:10 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Are you kneeling when you type these word Darrell?

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 7:04 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrl: Proof is in the pudding...the FACTS...you have none and have seldom presented any. I live in the real world...I work for a living not welfare.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:20 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Again with the projection. Always accusing others of what you do on a daily basis. Pat you have been in the bubble so long that if you ever mentally came out into the real world I doubt you could take the shock.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:16 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Keep talking Bob. You do the Liberal cause nothing but good. I do no think you realize how wacko and mean spirited you come off. Keep up the good work!

    PS. You do know that Ayn Rand novels are teenage fantasy novels, don't you?

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 5:30 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Here's a little known fac t: When dealing with liberals and substantive issues like solar power and the facts about the industry and products, the debate dries up as though it were in the Saharah, only when the debate is about opinion based information and comments does it ever extend past 30 to 40 posts. I wonder why...maybe it is because the people like msb and mrl can't handle the facts. strange.[wink][wink]

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 3:57 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Like most liberals, apparently Mr. Lucas has no use for our military. Obama hates the military. Fine men and women, some who dedicate their entire professional life keeping America safe. It literally makes me phyically ill when I see Obama pretend to be respectful with his "forced" salutes. He sure likes to use our military to help his pals, the Muslim Brotherhood, take over countries. Obama has done more for the Islamic jihand than the Islamics themselves. Just the way he wants it.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 3:49 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Apparently I wasted my time watching the Democratic convention. All I had to do is wait for Mr. Lucas to post all of the liberal talking points, many that have been disproved as either blatant lies or "twisted" statistics. They compared apples to mangoes a convinced enough lazy, uninformed moochers to vote for them. Obama/Soros are advocating class warfare. Take a look at WageClassWar.org. They aren't even trying to hide their agenda. Problem is, when they run out of "producers", where are they going to get the money needed to sustain all of the deadbeat moochers? This is straight from the communist playbook. Welcome to the Communist Nation of America.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:27 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Pat... again and again, you provide words of wisdom. Thank you!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:28 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    me too... stating the obvious

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:17 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    DB: I find it disturbing that you answered mrl. You know that stature isn't in the height of a man rather, it is the command of knowledge that gives a man his stature. mrl is a follower...you are a leader...assanine comments and accusations need no answers from you. There are many intelligent people who post here mrl is not one of them. The ability to utilize facts, draw conclusions from those facts and articulate a decision as well as ACT upon that decision is you. Stay that way.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:52 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Nope, just stating the obvious

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:44 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    your drooling[ohmy]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:12 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You are a bubble person because you do not care about truth. If it does not fit into your ideology it is automatically false.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:47 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    that is a given

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:33 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    CONTINUED...LUCAS WORLD

    9. Men who have no character such as yourself know the truth deep down(says the liberal)...

    response... Ah, I have been elevated in the mind of a liberal... just yesterday I was nothing more than a small man who he described as a twerp... Now he acknowledges I am a man. As far as no character...absurd...since I do my best to defeat liberalism and treat it as a disease that should be eradicated, obviously I have character. If I did nothing...then I would say I have no character.

    10. I pity you for a lifetime of no honor or character it is too late to change.(says the liberal) …

    response... I can not think of something less meaningless than caring what a Lucas type liberal thinks or who they pity. A Lucas world liberal talking about honor and character is an oxymoron.

    11. You can bellow to the world about how you are seeking the truth but your writing betrays the little man that you have allowed yourself to become.(says the liberal)

    response...you forgot to say I was a twerp after small little man. Please be consistent.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:31 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    CONTINUED...LUCAS WORLD

    6. What bothers me about bubble people is not your political beliefs.(says the liberal)...

    response...Blatant lie from this liberal.. it is obvious beyond belief that a liberal that refers to a group of people (conservatives) as bubble people has animosity toward the political beliefs of that group... another example of how stupid this liberal thinks conservatives are.

    7. It is your lack of honor and character(says the liberal). ...

    Response... this liberal is so angry and delusional that he is repeating himself as if in a drunken state of mind.

    8. You can keep telling yourself that you are God's gift to humanity but reality is, The truth is and there is nothing you can do about it( says the liberal)...

    Response... I never talk to god. I am not religious... I do not pray... I do not attend church... Therefore, I never tell god I am a gift to anything. I do not know if there is a god or not... If there were it would make sense that he would not have allowed liberalsm to exist.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:29 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    CONTINUED...

    3. Science, Honor, Character are just words to you.(says the liberal)...

    Response...No, science to me is a process of discovery where scientific method using double blind studies to isolate variables are completed to determine which variables affect change in the study. It is because I subscribe to scientific method that liberalism is seen as disease. No conclusion liberals spew is based on science but emotion. Honor and character … no comment as discussing this two words with a liberal mean nothing...meaningless.

    4. You have an ideology and anything that goes against that ideology is thrown out the window.(says the liberal) …

    response...humm..is this a conclusion based on science that you refer to? I think not as it is only your fragile emotional conclusion based on meaningless opinion.

    5. It does not matter what it is or if it true beyond a shadow of a doubt.(says the liberal) …
    response... In the liberal world, perception and reality rarely meet... evidence is this statement.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:27 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    In response to John Lucas , who posted at 12:57 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012...


    1. Darrell, you are not a Conservative in the old sense of the word.(says the liberal) You are a bubble “person.”

    Response... now there are two kinds of conservatives... ones with honor that are the cause of everything bad in America's economy and conservatives with no honor that are the cause of everything bad in our economy ( In Lucas world).Either way, we are all bubble people.Right?

    2. You do not live in reality (says the liberal)..

    .response...what reality would that be? The one in which all things that are bad originate from conservatism and all things that are good come from liberalism? Only a comedian would appreciate liberal think absurdity.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:54 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Oatmeal recipe: Brown sugar, bacon butter, milk, bananas, whipped cream...mmmm... walnuts, pecans and a strawberry on top. Something for every liberal pallet

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:47 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe B: Good analogy on airline CEO. Bob C: Facts are of no concern to mrl or msb. They are so devoid of substance and ability that their hot air won't even keep a room warm! DB: Good job. Words are used to stimulate thought. Facts are used to inform. Oatmeal is what liberals feed each other...if you put enough other stuff in it, it becomes edible. Mmmmmm they say!

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:59 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    If Gore had won the election there would have never been an Iraq war.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:57 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell, you are not a Conservative in the old sense of the word. You are a bubble person. You do not live in reality.Science, Honor, Character are just words to you. You have an ideology and anything that goes against that ideology is thrown out the window. It does not matter what it is or if it true beyond a shadow of a doubt. What bothers me about bubble people is not your political beliefs. It is your lack of honor and character. You can keep telling yourself that you are God's gift to humanity but reality is, The truth is and there is nothing you can do about it. Men who have no character such as yourself know the truth deep down. I pity you for a lifetime of no honor or character it is too late to change. You can bellow to the world about how you are seeking the truth but your writing betrays the little man that you have allowed yourself to become.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:59 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    liberal stated...You forgot the Iraq war adventure... oh yes... The clinton administration and liberasl pushed hard to get Saddam thus costing even more ...they accumulated 8 years of intelligence that Bush used in making his decisions.

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
    [W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:32 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    A liberal stated...No threat involved or meant

    Of course it's a threat... thanks for the warning.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:23 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell said:
    Considering Bush had 9/11 thrown on his lap as well as New Orleans disaster and the housing meltdown caused by liberal policies, 1 million net job gains was a miracle.

    You forgot the Iraq war adventure. What could be worse than what Bush went through? Inheriting an economy run by "Conservative" ideas like the one Obama inherited.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:19 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Amazing. Cut taxes and jobs will come out of the woodwork. Bush tax cuts = no net private sector jobs in the eight years of Bush. That is the history. You are right though. It is a miracle that there were one million public sector jobs created in spite of insane "Conservative" polices. Conservative financial polices always lead to disaster. That is the history and nothing you say or believe will change that. Of course looking at the results of your ideas is something you do not bother to do.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:54 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    The distorter in chief first stated... Bush with his Conservative ides blows up the economy, losing over 800,000 jobs a month…

    I often respond to absurdity by being absurd myself… so I exaggerated Bushes jobs gains … hoping to draw truth out of the liberal…it worked.

    Then the distorter responded with reality, which is Bush had close to a net 1,000,000 job gains during his administration.

    Quite a reversal in message… Considering Bush had 9/11 thrown on his lap as well as New Orleans disaster and the housing meltdown caused by liberal policies, 1 million net job gains was a miracle.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:36 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    [sleeping]

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 6:26 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    In 2009, Congress passed the MOVE Act to ensure that every military man and woman overseas could cast a vote in American elections. The Obama administration purposely violated that act to ensure that the military, primarily made up of conservatives, would not be able to vote, or make it so difficult that they would be discouraged to vote in the 2012 election. I personally know of one USAF officer that paid $50 in fees to get his vote back in to America in time because he thought it was his right AND duty. When asked why the MOVE Act wasn't fully implemented, the Obama administration, through the Pentagon, cited budget restrictions. This from a government that gives Egypt, a country that now hates America and Israel, 2 Billion in aid? This from a government that blows half a BILLION dollars on the likes of Solyndra? This from a government that helps Kenya build schools? Americans are fighting for the freedoms we enjoy and one of this is the right to vote, not be obstructed from doing so by our government.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:16 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    not true. There are more people employed now than when Obama took over in the mist of the Conservative economic disaster. Care to make a little wager?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:09 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I meant to say that Obama has created more PRIVATE sector jobs than bush did in 8 years

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 6:08 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Oh my, how liberals love to distort. There are less people employed now than when Obama took office. His employment statistics are reminiscent of a gambler telliing how much he won. Only counts the wins, not the losses. Sorry, liberals, the 4.5 million jobs Obama claims are another of his blatant lies and misleading statistics.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:54 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You got your facts wrong. Bush Jr created a little over a million jobs in 8 years. He actually lost private sector jobs in that 8 year period. He added over a million public sector jobs. Obama has created more jobs in 4 years than Bush Jr. did in 8 years and the gain is in private sector jobs for the Conservatives are making sure we are losing teachers, police and fireman.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:33 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    It is the history of the Republican Party and Conservatives in control that the economy takes a dive. It is what it is. The fact that bubble people create their own history does not change that reality.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:28 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I did. I pointed out that Bush and his Conservative ideas blew up the economy. You countered with the bubble head talking point that it was the Dem congress was at fault. No one out of the bubble head community thinks that is true. It is one of the mindlessly stupid arguments ever made and has no basis in reality but then that is what is meant by being in a bubble.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:26 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    A bizarre biased liberal distortionist spewed… Bush with his Conservative ides blows up the economy, losing over 800,000 jobs a month…

    Please… why the flagrant distortion? Reality is…Following the President's 2003 tax relief, the United States had 52 months of uninterrupted job growth, the longest run on record… In Fact, there were 9 million more people with jobs when Bush left office as opposed to when he started his administration, even including the job losses the last few months of the Bush administration.
    The blatant misleading distortion of Bushes record by the Loony left is more evidence of their war on conservatives…

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:22 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Mr. Maple, the only "fact" they keep screaming is "It's Bush's Fault". Other than that, they have nothing except left wing radical rhetoric.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:21 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Not true. I just took the low hanging fruit

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:55 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Interesting that Lucas the Liberal only responded to the food stamp, welfare, medicaid portion of Mr. Chapman's post. That's because he knows the rest of it is irrefutable truth.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:52 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    More Lucas the Liberal MALARKEY.
    He sounds like a broken record....
    Blaming Bush for the Democratic controlled financial decisions is like blaming the CEO of American Airlines for a plane crash. Pure LIBERAL finger pointing because, in their mind, they couldn't have possibly be complicit.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:51 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Sorry mrl...the Dem Congress blew up the economy...like they always have.

    msb...I don't drink, smoke or take dope. Interesting word you say...read your own post...interesting. You've been watching too many Zombie flicks.

    I just wished that one of you would actually bring an argument to this forum. Just so you know "fact": a piece of information, e.g. a statistic or a statement of the truth...something.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:38 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Lucas the Liberal posted :
    "I am willing to bet that you are a small guy no more than 5'6" tall. Every thing you write has twerp written all over it. I am a redneck truck driver from Texas".
    Sounds like a direct threat to me Mr. Baumbach. Isn't that a violation of LNS rule #3?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:31 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Robert Chapman wrote:


    4 years of adding a record number of people to food stamps, welfare, medicaid,

    Bush with his Conservative ides blows up the economy, losing over 800,000 jobs a month and now Robert blame the result on Obama. If Conservative economic ideas worked there would not have been the crash which forced people onto food stamps, welfare and medicaid. Robert is like an arsonist who blames the fire department for the results of the fire. Most people are not stupid enough to fall for this line of attack but there is always Darrell Baumbach, Pat Maple, Brian Dockter, Joe Baxter and other bubble people. You can fool some of the people all of the time

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:57 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    by the way I stand by points 1,2 and 3

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:38 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Your words say not depressed, your actions speak much louder than words.

    That you would even mention or bring up the topic of me posting again belies your assertion that you are laughing …

    As far as quality control/ fact checker... did you take that literally? I think so...[lol]

    As far as thumbs up, that was for Lodi News Sentinel in how good of a job they do to explain the actions they take in the forum... was not for me as you perceive.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:29 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Hilarious!

    Mr. Baumbach actually gave HIMSELF a "thumbs up!"

    So, I suppose the LNS gave you the go ahead to make personal attacks?

    Good for you, Mr. Baumbach!

    So you fancy yourself a "quality control/fact checker, do you? Again, hilarious!

    Depressed? Not at all - looking forward to more nonsensical entertainment in the new year - wouldn't miss it for the world!

    I don't think even Tina Fey could top the farcical show you put on here - no need to watch whatever it is that she appears in anymore.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:50 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    A liberal with animosity repeated what I stated..."Ill be keeping up with what you write but will not be posting much at LNS until things change."

    But as I said, until things change... I would more less stop... but then, things did change and what I had a problem with was explained and resolved satisfactorily... [thumbup]

    Obviously, Ms Bobin is distraught and depressed that I decided to participate again as she was looking forward to twisting reality without quality control & fact checking that I provide that uncovers so many of her misstatements. Why else would she so eagerly wish me a one way ticket to Thailand. I'm sure if I asked, she would gladly pay for my ticket if I a would just stop identifying all her wrongful conduct.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:42 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    An example of how Ms Bobin's Itemization's of my postings are responses to liberal attacks is...

    Mr Lucas stated on this thread...
    1. the real question is can a person be a follower of Jesus and be a Republican at the same time? I think not
    2. You suggest a lot of things, most of which is mind numbingly empty of any rational argument. Though I have to admit as a right wing talking points robot you are only beaten only by Darrell Baumbach on these pages
    3. Yes there will still bubble people such as Darrell, Jerome, Mr Baxter, etc but the right wings ability to make new cult members will be very much diminished.

    After reading many of this far left liberal's posts, I responded... "If an objective independent thinker is talking to another independent objective thinker and says...you sound just like John Lucas or Cynthia Neely,...then that... would be a devastating insult difficult to recover from."

    To which he had the gall to say... You are crossing the line here Darrell

    To which I responded again...
    The man who trashes the intelligence of all conservatives is saying I am crossing a line.... The man who says the real question is can a person be a follower of Jesus and be a Republican at the same time? I think not... is saying I am crossing the line by saying If an objective independent thinker is talking to another independent objective thinker and says...you sound just like John Lucas or Cynthia Neely,...then that... would be a devastating insult difficult to recover from.
    My response... what???????????????? You have got to be kidding. Thank you for substantiating that liberalism is a disease.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:23 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Sorry, but you missed one...

    I also stated Ms Bobin has feigned “OUTRAGE” many a time...she is without doubt factitious and insincere...she appears to be auditioning for a Tina Fey roll in Saturday Night Live...a comedy of course. Who in the world could possibly take seriously anything this angry bitter liberal says who is attempting to be a comedian.

    How funny you conclude anything I state is hateful.

    This election was very educational in how liberals embraced Saul Alinsky and his methods for gaining power and success in stated goals... I am learning to do what liberals are very good at... I am simply responding to liberal attacks with like kind responses. Each item this liberal posted was a response to an attack.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:35 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    On Monday, November 5th, an overly prolific poster, miffed at having comments deleted "for no reason," wrote:

    "Ill be keeping up with what you write but will not be posting much at LNS until things change."

    Since that date, 2 Letters to the Editor have appeared (one quite anti-American) and the following comments, which I am sure this person believes are quite benign and not personal attacks, have been posted:

    1. "An insincere poster factitiously claimed"

    2. "Person lacking educational depth stated"

    3. "If an objective independent thinker is talking to another independent objective thinker and says...you sound just like John Lucas or Cynthia Neely,...then that... would be a devastating insult difficult to recover from."

    4. "The man who trashes the intelligence of all conservatives "

    5. "Thank you for substantiating that liberalism is a disease."

    6. "Who cares what Liberals think they know? It's all so irrelevant .and superficial."

    7. "An uneducated liberal stated..."

    8. "Relax Mr Chang. Everyone knows you could not possibly comprehend why you should apologize...."

    9. "Obviously Mr Heuer 's liberalism clouds his judgment and reality..."

    10. "Glass half full? In your liberal dreams."

    11. "Evidently, liberal posters have no idea how businesses operate"

    12. "Clearly this liberal should be embarrassed at not being able to read English, but no, she is happy to distort."

    13. "If liberals think it is misleading then obvioiusly it is a case of being beyond their comprehension. "

    14. "Again... a liberal claims to know reality but is as usual mistaken."

    15. "Pavlov must have been busy with liberals helping in developing their reality."

    16. "I'm sure there are monkeys at the Lodi Zoo that mirror liberals .. there they sit in a cage feeling safe and secure from predators."

    Obviously, his loss on November 6th has forced him to up the vitriol and hate speech and also forced him to challenge the limits of the LNS rules for posting.

    How sad....

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:09 am on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Once again - Pat Maple stated: "I am OUTRAGED!!!!!!!"... "

    I'm not outraged at all...I'm laughing at one poster who suddenly believes he has become the bard of Lodi because an interesting word popped up on his "word of the day" calendar, and another who obviously doesn't remember the comments he writes - most likely because most of them don't even have a hint of being composed by someone with a clear sense of reality.

    Perhaps you overdid the weekend, eh, Mr. Maple?

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 5:20 pm on Mon, Nov 26, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Obama delivered NOTHING? I disagree with Mr. Baxter. He has delivered 4 years of double digit unemployment (the 8% he claims is bogus), 4 years of record national debt, 4 years of helping his buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood take over countries that he helped topple, 4 years of coddling his UNION financiers, 4 years of homeowners getting their homes repossessed, 4 years of business forced to close because of his disastrous economy, 4 years of adding a record number of people to food stamps, welfare, medicaid, 4 years of lying to American citizens about everything from his true personal history to the Fast & Furious fiasco to Benghazi, 4 years of blaming Bush, 4 years of shoving socialism on America. See, Mr. Baxter...Obama has delivered SOMETHING. And the liberal fools are begging him to continue. How sad for America.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:43 pm on Mon, Nov 26, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    DB: Great word. Msb: One CAN be insincere with the facts...BO does it all the time...Benghazi anyone? The economy...the budget...the Constitution??? Maybe?? You are just a ball of phony outrage aren't you...are you at the Halls of Montezuma?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:12 am on Mon, Nov 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach's original statement: "An insincere poster factitiously claimed... I am OUTRAGED!!!!!!!"... Right..."

    1. I never made the statement - it was made by Mr. Maple.
    2. The statement was incorrectly attributed to me and resulted in a personal attack from Mr. Baumbach.
    3. Given Mr. Baumbach's usual display of poor spelling and grammar skills, it would not be unusual to have confused his meaning.
    4. The use of "insincere" and "factitious" is actually a redundancy - if I'm supposedly already "insincere," there would be no reason to state that I "factitiously claimed."

    Mr. Baumbach subsequently wrote: "I have offered to provide private tutoring for this liberal ( for free) but considering how often she makes the same error again and again, it would be a waste of time... offer canceled. "

    And which "error" would that be? That I and many others have a hard time understanding your convoluted nonsense that displays a substandard level of ability to use the English language effectively and which you continually claim to everyone in this forum who dares to call you on your silly comments that they are "twisting" and "distorting" your meaning?

    That error?

    Given your past two "letters," Mr. Baumbach - I sincerely doubt that you could teach anyone anything.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:07 am on Mon, Nov 26, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    If you feel compelled to spin "fairy tales" Mr. Lucas, perhaps you should volunteer at the Lodi Public Library. The little tykes just love fairy tale time.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:00 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    The man who trashes the intelligence of all conservatives is saying I am crossing a line.... The man who says the real question is can a person be a follower of Jesus and be a Republican at the same time? I think not... is saying I am crossing the line by saying If an objective independent thinker is talking to another independent objective thinker and says...you sound just like John Lucas or Cynthia Neely,...then that... would be a devastating insult difficult to recover from.

    My response... what???????????????? You have got to be kidding. Thank you for substantiating that liberalism is a disease.

    [whistling]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:46 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You know it is true and they could not get away with it without people like you

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:09 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Yet more Lucas the Liberal MALARKEY.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:34 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Mitt Romney was talking with some of his fellow moochers about how he put that amendment to his last tax returns to get his burden down from 14% to 9%. He was regaling his fellow plutocrats with how they can pay less in total taxes percentage wise than a minimum wage worker at McDonalds thus putting the cost of maintaining the infrastructure on those who could least afford it. He said this could not be possible without those loyal morons of the middle class like Darrell Baumbach, Pat Maple or Joe Baxter and all he could say in gratitude was: THANK YOU SUCKERS!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:33 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Person lacking educational depth stated...Next time you want to call my writings facetious, at least you could spell it correctly and find out WHO actually wrote the comment. HAHAHAHAHA

    No, I did not want to use the word facetious...Instead, I intentionally used
    factitious as it more reflects reality.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/factitiously
    Lacking authenticity or genuineness; sham...not genuine; sham factitious enthusiasm

    I have offered to provide private tutoring for this liberal ( for free) but considering how often she makes the same error again and again, it would be a waste of time... offer canceled.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:12 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You are crossing the line here Darrell.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:13 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach - Not very nice to call Mr. Maple "insincere." I thought you two were buds!

    Pat Maple posted on November 24th at 11:14AM:

    "msb: Again with the PHONY RACIST OUTRAGE ...

    You go all the way back prior to the revolution standing up for women and Negroes (black is a 1960's term) while not defending the Native Americans (First People)...you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a RACIST. I am OUTRAGED!!!!!!!"

    Next time you want to call my writings facetious, at least you could spell it correctly and find out WHO actually wrote the comment.

    HAHAHAHAHA

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 12:21 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    What this is all you can come up with?
    More propaganda and lies fed to you continually by your conservative cabal of Hannity, Rush, Fox News. While you claim you don't listen to any of these, you are clearly being influenced by the things they say. You just won't acknowledge it, probably because you don't know it. See this is the sad thing about conservatives in general: they all repeat the same dumb downed simple slogans put out by the conservative press and not a one of them know the genesis of any of it. For your benefit, I will help you one time. Rush says 'pollsters don't sample entrepenures because they are being entrepanures and as such, are not home when the phone rings'. You repeat this same stupid story. Thing is, real pollsters carefully target certain people to call. It's not random.
    Random telephone polls are worthless because you may call a hundred people who don't listen to any news, read any papers, go on the internet, don't watch any tv. You get people who might be unemployed or just don't work because they don't like to work. You get people who watch Judge Judy and reruns of 80's TV shows. Hardly a scientific sample. Sorry sweetheart, apparently only liberals are educated and discerning enough to listen to your conservative staples like Rush, Hannity, and Fox and see the comedic value of their influence on the dumbed down red state masses.

    Can you say "super majority"? Is the United States Congress moving in the direction of the CA Legislature? You won't have to worry about all your petty little GOP members or the tea party for that matter.
    On the plus side: it will be far easier for the GOP caucus to have a quorum as long as at least 10 of them get together at the same time.

    As to the later comment about being a "closet conservative", I'm not sure what that means. I'm not some weird perverted highly placed GOP congressman you're fellow conservatives prize so highly, like the guy dating male pages, or the guy sending semi-nude pictures of himself to you girls, or the guy who got arrested in the regional airport bathroom trying to pick up a quicky.
    I'm just a normal person. A highly educated well read person who isn't a Democrat or a republican and I will tell you right now, I will not vote for any republicans ever, for any office, just like you won't vote for any Democrat for any office. So I'm more like Rush than you. I'm just not on radio 15 hours a week suckering simple conservatives like yourself. You really should grow a brain.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:16 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    So a far left liberal in looking for a real insult...Humm... let me help him out...

    If an objective independent thinker is talking to another independent objective thinker and says...you sound just like John Lucas or Cynthia Neely,...then that... would be a devastating insult difficult to recover from.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:11 pm on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    An insincere poster factitiously claimed... I am OUTRAGED!!!!!!!"... Right...

    That's like the godfather saying he is outraged that crime has increased...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:24 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "while not defending the Native Americans (First People)...you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a RACIST. I am OUTRAGED!!!!!!!"

    Funny that you say that....I suppose the same could be said about Abraham Lincoln - the man who "freed the slaves" also condemned 38 Dakota warriors to hang - the largest mass execution in US history.

    What a racist Lincoln was!

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 10:36 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    Mr. Schmidt wrote:


    A couple of years ago the GOP tried to convince California that it needed a Republican businesswoman to guide it out of its financial woes. This week, HP took a 8 BILLION DOLLAR loss largely because of Meg Whitman's poor judgement as a board member and CEO.

    America dodged a bullet on Nov 6. Mitt Romney would have been a disaster for our country from which we never would have recovered.

    -Chuckle:

    But that 38 billion dollar tax bill to bail out GM that is resting on the shoulders of every taxpaying American isn't enough to make Mr. Schmidt think twice about the further consequences of re-electing Obama.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:25 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Actually it is an old Chinese saying. Jesus said if a man does not work neither should he eat.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 10:15 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Such rapier wit from mrleft. Too bad they don't answer real questions or engage in real debate...of course that is usually what happens when you are standing on a foundation of sand...and principles of mud. Seems to me that Jesus preached(paraphrased)...give a man a fish and he will eat for the day...teach him to fish and he will eat for ever (at least before the game warden catches him, fines him and then takes his poles away).

     
  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 9:12 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    99er Posts: 119

    Hey Pat, the current 'ATTACK the Old white guys" is an attempt to separate the 99% into splinter groups.....
    You know, the divide and conquer strategy.

     
  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 9:07 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    99er Posts: 119

    John Lucas, You are correct about what Hesus tried to teach Us.

    If memory serves, our friend taught us to help the needy, feed the children, lift up the down trodden, share what You have, because as he told his disciples, "what You do to the least of them You do to me."

     
  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 8:46 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    99er Posts: 119

    P.Maple says "bring some facts", I agree, facts would be refreshing but usually not useful in these comments, as they are usually ignored and the writers intelligence/ family members insulted...
    If this starts to happen to You, remember what my Father taught me......."Never argue with drunks, idiots or the insane"

    Say it as You see it, and leave it there.
    Hope this advice helps You.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:20 am on Sun, Nov 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Well at least you guys know what a real insult is. Calling someone a Conservative and a Fox lover.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:10 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Sorry, Mikey, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh, but apparently YOU do. Are you a "closet" conservative like Lucas the Liberal?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:08 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Republican obstructionist? That's funny stuff. Your boy Reid and the Democrats are obstructing more than any Republican ever thought about. Hey, Mikey, where is the BUDGET that is required by the Constitution? Four years and Owe-Blame-O can't even get his own stooges to pass his budget. Can you say liberal obstructionist?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:34 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    More Lucas the Liberal MALARKEY.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:42 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Hmmm, now that I think about it, perhaps he is a "closet" conservative. Yep, that's it.. He knows way too much about conservative talk hosts and FOX to not be a conservative. He is just pretending to be a liberal.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:20 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Obama's "house of cards" will come crashing down. His obvious "revenge" against capitalist and whites will bring him down. Now that he has wrangled another 4 years by promising to be America's "Santa Claus" he will kick the very people that voted for him in the teeth. He doesn't need them anymore.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:46 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Whining? Is that what you call it? Cute!

    As far as Fox, I'm surprised they would repeat what I say on air.... Im flattered!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:41 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Great observation Pat... clearly ... mr Lucas without doubt is a Fox lover.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 5:38 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    "To use the words Clinton ("I did not have sex with that woman), truth and decency in the same paragraph is about as funny as it gets. "

    Really? You should listen to Rush Limbaugh. Every show is a laugh riot of misineterpretation, lies, and mostly BS to sooth the conservative listener, all the while Rush gets more and more cozy with the left on the sly. Wake up......he's an entertainer! You think he believes any of that? He learned from Morton Downey and took over his time slot in Sac. when he got his start.

    This really reveals the lack of good judgement republicans of old once possessed. Now, many on the right are just sitting back and watching the Tea Party expand it's influence in the GOP. I hope you guys end up as 2 minor parties and voting on principle end up giving us a Democratic president time after time after time.

    A Democratic congress would be nice too.

    GO TEA PARTY!

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 5:32 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    "I would suggest that the LIBERALS that are espousing socialism in America simply move to another country that already steeped in socialism."

    I'm wondering why we should move? If anything, conservatives and republicans might want to look to another country.

    If the people of America read our recent history and the history of obstructionist republicans, then the conservative sphere is about to get a lot smaller. Hope you enjoyed living in CA!!!

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 5:28 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    "Meg Whitman makes her shareholders millions if not billions, employs thousands of people (at great wages and benefits) and creates hundreds of useful products (of which you are users), there is a down-turn in the economy created by your hero, some of the good goes away,"
    Mr. Maple, you should go and check out the time line of the falling economy.
    It began near the end of the W. Bush administration. By the time it was handed off to President Obama, it was sliding downhill like a tobobaggen greased with WD 40. Meg Whitman, or Carly Fiorina for that matter, are not the kinds of CEOs we would want running the country. THEY COULDN'T EVEN WIN ONE ELECTION BETWEEN THE TWO!

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:54 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Wing nut??? Where have we heard that before?? Oh yeah...Bill O'Reilly!! The truth comes out Joe...lucas is a Fox fan!!!

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:31 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You sure seem to do a lot of whining about it. I can tell you one thing for sure though, Darrell. Nobody cares what you write for they have all heard it before on Fox News.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:18 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    The question that everyonewho can reason wants to know is ... Who cares what Liberals think they know? It's all so irrelevant .and superficial.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:11 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    [lol][beam][lol]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:02 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You can either believe the principles that Jesus taught or you can believe the leader of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh, principles teaches. One cannot believe in both. Wait a minute maybe that what it means to be a Conservative Republican. A person who can hold contradicting thoughts in one's brain at the same time. Thanks Pat. You answered a great question.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:55 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Where am I wallowing in he mud? I just asked a question and you guys are going all wing nutty. Not my problem. To tell you the truth I was bored and decided to have some fun. You guys never disappoint.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 3:35 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrl: You think?? Could have fooled me! I responded to your comments...if there were 15 it was your doing, not mine...you are wrong,,,Mr Chapman is right...as far as Fox news...the comparison is clambic.

    I am not religious (much) however I believe in God and the principles Jesus taught. Many liberals poo poo such principles and the people who practice them...then there are the people like you...no ears and all mouth. Bring some FACTS with you next time you want to argue...it works better.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:35 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Seems to me I recall Lucas the Liberal telling everyone he was going to "take the high road" and not "wallow in the mud" with the conservatives. Just as I figured, that didn't last long. Enjoying your mud Mr. Lucas?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:57 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    I need to re-world my last reply to" PURE LIBERAL LUCAS MALARKEY"

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:45 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Really? How did the last election go Bob? It is just the start. The right wing nonsense is being blown out of the water. Rational people will not fall for it anymore. People who love reason, science, honor and character have already left the Republican Party. It will soon be just a party of the deep south. You better get used to it.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:35 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Probably true on all counts but the difference between me and you Joe is I consider the possibility.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:32 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    best you can do Bob? If Jesus came back you would provide the wood and Mr Baxter would provide the nails.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:32 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    If you want impartial, unbiased news just read what is being said about America from countries that embace democracy. Pretty eye opening and their reporting isn't filtered by the White House censors. Unlike the liberal media here, they aren't intimidated by Owe-Blame-O and his liberal staff.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:09 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    The sad part, Mr. Chapman, in his twisted mind he actually believes what he writes.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:07 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Get real, John, you are a walking LEFT wing talking point.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:06 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Easy retort for most of the liberal drivel on here, short and to the point.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 1:53 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    I have no doubt that Mr. Lucas gets all giggley and euphoric everytime Chris Matthews or Rachel MadCow appear on the liberal propaganda channels spouting their misinformation that they want liberals to believe. I can see him now, clapping and jumping up and down like a teenage girl at a Justin Beiber concert. Easier to follow like blindly than read, watch, investigate and learn for yourself, eh John? There are still people that believe the moon is made of cheese and man never set foot there, all liberals, I'm sure.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 1:44 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    "the real question is can a person be a follower of Jesus and be a Republican at the same time? I think not"
    Quite easily the most moronic conclusion that I have ever heard. Easy to see why the poster is a fanatical radical liberal.
    Apparently it IS possible to be a follower of Muhammad and be a Democrat, even President, at the same time.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:23 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    the real question is can a person be a follower of Jesus and be a Republican at the same time? I think not

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:20 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    another comment in a long series of comments empty of any rational argument

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:18 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    How are Fox news and Pat Maple alike(except the obvious nonsense they spout)? They throw 15 things up against the wall and hope something will stick. Pat why don't you stick to one talking point at a time?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:15 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Get real Joe you are a walking right wing talking point.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:08 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Unlike Obamanoids, that believe and embrace everything out of his mouth, conservatives have more sense and question and investigate and come to their own conclusions. Liberals should try it sometime, it would be a new experience for the ones posting on here.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:02 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    I have watched FOX a few times. Some of the comedy shows are almost as funny as LIBERAL stooges.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:01 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    MALARKEY

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:00 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    "God was on the Democratic side." FYI mrl...GOD does not take sides, only we do...that is how he judges us. Dems advocated for health care...they gave us BOcare.
    If they advocated for immigration reform why didn't they do it when the controlled all three branches of gov? (because they didn't), financial assistance...translation: free stuff and unemployment. Income equality? Then why do some people on assistance get more or less than others? Hostilities? Like WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam and Somalia...ALL Democratic wars...I forgot your War on Poverty and the Great Society.
    Oh yeah...how do you make peace if there isn't a war? WOW Phony outrage again!

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:59 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    PURE LIBERAL MALARKEY....

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:42 pm on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    My right wing friends missed why they lost the election. It is easy. God was on the Democratic side. Explanation:

    What the right missed was that all of the left-leaning agenda of the Democratic Party had far more in common with God's agenda than the rank selfishness and greed of the GOP. Democrats advocated for health care (healing the sick), immigration (brotherhood), financial assistance (caring for the least among us), income equality and separation of church and state (giving Caesar his due), and deescalation of hostilities in Iraq and Afghanistan (blessed be the peacemakers). What's surprising is that Republicans could oppose all of these things and still think they were doing God's work.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:49 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    when you learned reading you should have learned comprehension also.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:33 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe Wilson: VERY good letter!

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:32 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe Wilson: Good letter

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:30 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    jb, ss, ma, th and ml: Let me get this straight...Meg Whitman makes her shareholders millions if not billions, employs thousands of people (at great wages and benefits) and creates hundreds of useful products (of which you are users), there is a down-turn in the economy created by your hero, some of the good goes away, her company is re-building and you call this a BAD thing. WOW! None of you have ANY concept of business.

    BUT, BO steals trillions of tax dollars, pays off his union cronies, surrounds himself with quasi criminals, floats $5 Tillion in loans (hocking your kids and grands up to their eyeballs in debt for decades), loses millions of jobs, takes a world-wide trip to kiss his pals a..es, blows nearly $500 Billion on pie-in-the sky solar and "shovel ready jobs", puts more people on welfare and food stamps than any other president, more (and for a longer time...99 weeks) people on unemployment (and under-employment) since the Depression (60% of college grads can't find a job) and then does NOT answer the phone call when his ambassador in Benghazi is begging for his life. THIS is okay with you?? WOW. No wonder this country is so screwed up.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:14 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe B: mrl and msb fail to recognize that people like us READ...2-3 newspapers daily, blogs, web-sites and other sources of information. Why? Because we like to know our adversaries better than they do themselves...which would necessitate listening and READING the same clap-trap and ABCCBSNBCCNNCNBC garbage they do. The difference is that we are capable of deciphering BS and the truth. IE: 1+2=5.34 does NOT compute in our world. Solyndra was a GOOD deal?...not in our world.

    msb: Again with the PHONY RACIST OUTRAGE against WASP men...are you taking no blame and exonerating all of the women who had a hand in this mess we are in today?

    You go all the way back prior to the revolution standing up for women and Negroes (black is a 1960's term) while not defending the Native Americans (First People)...you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a RACIST. I am OUTRAGED!!!!!!!

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:15 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Yes as good as the right wing is good at lying and whining they are bad at governing. History clearly shows this to be true. Their problem is they believe their own lies and live in a state of victimhood. Whether it is the war on Christmas or not getting enough respect they see themselves as victims of the terrible Liberals. They are like children who never had the proper parenting and have not learned how to behave. They are in a constant childish temper tantrum.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:03 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Studies have shown that people who watch Fox News are less informed than people who watch no news at all. You are obviously an avid Fox News watcher.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:00 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You suggest a lot of things, most of which is mind numbingly empty of any rational argument. Though I have to admit as a right wing talking points robot you are only beaten only by Darrell Baumbach on these pages.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:55 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    To use the words Clinton ("I did not have sex with that woman), truth and decency in the same paragraph is about as funny as it gets.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:46 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    I would suggest that the LIBERALS that are espousing socialism in America simply move to another country that already steeped in socialism. I have a feeling they won't stay there long.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:45 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    More liberal MALARKEY.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:41 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    Exactly! I grew up with republicans. It finally donned on me that their hate of democrats (and associated liberals) went clear to the bone. It didn't matter what Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, or Clinton did... it was always the wrong decision at the wrong time made by the wrong side. Complain. Complain.

    It was mostly the lies about Clinton and the republican war on decency and truth that finally got me out of the republican party. Especially during the riduculous idea that led to the Clinton impeachment in '98. Republicans showed the country that nothing else mattered for that terrible chapter in our country's history that the House and Senate could shut down government to present a case that they knew had absolutely no chance of ending in a conviction. Instead of apologizing to us, the republicans merely redoubled their efforts to cheat Gore and the country out of a legitamately elected President.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:21 am on Sat, Nov 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Mr Wilson is right on the money when he says:

    This last election says a lot about our nation. People voted, or chose not to vote, for a fundamental shift in our country that will be felt for generations; from our fiscal policies to our national security.

    This election is the first in what will many more where he "Conservative Entertainment Media" such as Rush, Fox etc lose their power. Yes there will still bubble people such as Darrell, Jerome, Mr Baxter, etc but the right wings ability to make new cult members will be very much diminished. The internet has changed everything and the right wing lying machine's ability to control what people hear is no longer as powerful. As less people are trapped by the Fox's and Rush's of the world they will become much more informed. Studies show a person is more informed if one listen to nothing than if one listens to Fox News. As much of the right wing ideology is based on lies they will become less and less of the political landscape and will lose more and more political power as time goes on. Its base will be a diminishing number of Darrel's and Jerome's and Joe Baxter's gnashing their teeth, wringing their hands and clutching their pearls for they fail to see that they are on the wrong side of history.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:57 pm on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    MALARKEY

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:20 pm on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Typical liberal mindset.Try blaming Obama's "in the toilet" economy for business losses.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:13 pm on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Faster than GM, ObamaMotors? Yet another bankruptcy/bailout for Obama's proudest achievment, saving UNION jobs at taxpayer expense.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:25 pm on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Letter writer stated: "Folks, we just sold our birthright, and for what? You put in the answer. For each of us it will be different. This is a sad time for our country, and let's just hope it doesn't get worse."

    Our birthright? What birthright? To a WASP nation in which the Founders saw fit to exclude women and black Americans?

    Curious - what really is OUR birthright? Who are the collective "our" to which the letter writer refers?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:35 am on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Thank you Mr B.F. Skinner

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:16 am on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1459

    Good post Mike.
    [smile]

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:00 am on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1459

    Spot on as usual Joanne

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:59 am on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1459

    Very true Mike

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:23 am on Fri, Nov 23, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    Most of this letter seems to be nothing more than a listing of conservative propaganda....not quite the whole story.....planting seeds of doubt...

    It's surprising so many know exactly what happened in Bengahzi, especially since it seems, all of the Americans are dead that were there. I hear tails of laser sights, Spectre Gun ships, probably other types of combat aircraft. Tales of American soldiers, marines, or the SEALs (a popular listing). Tales of the possible abuse of the Ambassador (as if this would be a standard terrorist tactic). I'm thinking that if there were other Americans there, and they had weapons, they probably should have opened up on the terrorists.

    As to dumpster diving, I believe it highly unlikely that people who weren't homeless, would begin looking in dumpsters for food. Now the New York City area is highly populated, so it would be expected that there must be some people looking in dumpsters. Of course this begs the question: what was in the dumpsters and when was it put in the dumpsters? They're probably not water tight so they would have flooded also. The wrong will no doubt pull up fabricated stories,...fabricated pictures they will claim proves their side of the story. This was a disaster after all. Maybe instead of getting interviews and pictures, they could have given out some food, you know help out instead of B#@%*, B#@%*, B#@%*.

    FEMA offices closed. Really, during a hurricane? Where are the FEMA offices in NYC anyway? Does anyone from the wrong know where they are in NYC and surrounding communities? How many offices were "closed"?
    What about the people who work there? Show up during a hurricane to hand out 2 or 3 sandbags?

    Come on. If your going to write a letter complaining about how President Obama didn't stand on some street in NYC with a mop during a hurricane, at least make it believable.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:48 pm on Thu, Nov 22, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    What does Mitt Obamney, HP, dot com, Meg Whitman or Fiorina have to do with Benghazi, FEMA and Obamacare?
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:51 am on Thu, Nov 22, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    You hit the nail right on the head, Mr. Schmidt. Whitman lucked out with her success at eBay soley due to the dot com era and a successful concept.

    She's taken HP down faster than Fiorina managed to do....another bullet we dodged in the '10 election.

    As for Mr. Wilson's letter - it reads like the latest issue of "Conspiracy Theory Today."

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:51 am on Thu, Nov 22, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2376

    A couple of years ago the GOP tried to convince California that it needed a Republican businesswoman to guide it out of its financial woes. This week, HP took a 8 BILLION DOLLAR loss largely because of Meg Whitman's poor judgement as a board member and CEO.

    America dodged a bullet on Nov 6. Mitt Romney would have been a disaster for our country from which we never would have recovered.

     

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