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Posted: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 6:29 am, Thu Mar 24, 2011.

There are so many bank and other armed robberies that it seems an easy way to make a living — and no taxes. Take the guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens so only crooks will have access to them, and then raise taxes so more police are on the street to protect citizens who are not allowed to protect themselves; wait 30 minutes, they will be there soon.

So if we can take the training and know the liabilities, should we be allowed Second Amendment rights? Maybe I am in the minority, but I think so. Are there times when you go into an area that is uncomfortable? How about going to school in the middle of Skid Row in 1944? Scary, you bet. I had a job in the middle of Stockton Skid Row in about 1948 working for Igloo Ice Cream Co. Of course, I didn't tell my folks where I was working. I had experiences that most people would cringe at just the thought. The smells of Skid Row you will never forget. I drove Yellow Cab nights after my day job of driving truck for Speedy Transport in about 1959. One of the stations for Yellow Cab was in the middle of Skid Row, so you had to wait for the next fare in rotation. Skid Row was one of the largest on the Pacific Coast at that time.

Back to concealed carry permit: What are we going to have to do to make this available to law-abiding citizens? Check Australia's turn in you gun law and the increase in crime. Don't worry, your victims are not packing heat. And don't worry, it is only going to get worse.

Ben Coleman

Lodi

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18 comments:

  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:54 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Of course liberals will tell you the Kennedys AND the Kerrys aren't the least bit interested in profitting from a gun black market. This is the usual response from a liberal. But we all know how much the Kennedys profitted from prohibition.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:44 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    The term "The other side of the tracks" has only encouraged more class warfare.
    Eliminating our second amendment rights would encourage even more class warfare and a huge black market that Kerry and his cronies would profit from.
    This may be one of the reasons why Kerry wants to do this. We'd be so busy fighting amongst ourselves we would be oblivious to what's going on in the Beltway.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:24 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    This one caught my eye:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-355610.html

    Leonard PoneApril 12, 2008, 10:58 PM
    I was cleaning my CZ 75 SP01 today and when it came time to reassemble the pistol I was unable to get the spring and the guide rod back in front of the barrel.

    I am completely baffled by this. I have cleaned the gun on numerous previous occasions with no problems but this time, it is as if the rod has grown an eighth of an inch.

    Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing this problem?

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    If you enjoyed reading about "CZ 75 Spring Rod Question" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
    Leonard PoneApril 13, 2008, 12:22 AM
    My apologies!

    Must remember to eat before cleaning pistol.

    (I am going to try to pass this off on low blood sugar levels)

    -LP

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:20 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Daniel,

    He's still around. He's on Facebook. And I see he posts on other message boards occasionally.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:14 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Where's Leonard when we need him? He's a big advocate of second amendment rights.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:13 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Crime up Down Under
    Since Australia's gun ban, armed robberies increase 45%

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Posted: March 03, 2000
    1:00 am Eastern


    By Jon E. Dougherty
    © 2011 WorldNetDaily.com


    Since Australia banned private ownership of most guns in 1996, crime has risen dramatically on that continent, prompting critics of U.S. gun control efforts to issue new warnings of what life in America could be like if Congress ever bans firearms.


    Read more: Crime up Down Under http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=1933#ixzz1IHgAN1Gv

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:57 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Joanne does make a good point. There would be no need for a second amendment
    if we had no second amendment rights. But I do doubt even John Kerry would eliminate the second amendment from the Constitution entirely. It's the rights he wants denied. Unless he wants to see an uprising in this country that would make the Civil War seem insignificant.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:37 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    FACT: Kerry has voted for a Ted Kennedy amendment to ban most center-fire rifle ammunition, including the most common rounds used by hunters and target shooters

    -This fact really sticks out like a sore thumb.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:31 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Joanne,

    I doubt John Kerry or his constituents have changed their positions on this issue very much given he's not running for President anymore just in case you'll try to make the argument that this may have been a campaign promise he had no intention of fullfilling.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:27 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    FACT:Kerry has voted to hold the highly regulated American firearms industry legally responsible for the illegal acts of violent criminals.6
    FACT: Kerry was one of only 18 Senators to oppose the Firearms Owners` Protection Act, which ended alarming abuses being committed under the 1968 Gun Control Act.7

    FACT:Kerry was one of only 29 Senators to vote to prohibit gun manufacturers from discharging debts created by the reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities.8

    FACT:Kerry has voted to allow BATF to conduct unlimited warrantless inspections of FFL holders.9

    FACT: Kerry has voted to criminalize legal sales between private individuals at gun shows.10

    FACT: Kerry has voted to impose penalties of a year in prison and a $10,000 fine on an adult if a juvenile steals a firearm from him, and then merely displays it in a public place.11

    FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small firearms dealers out of business, which would have impacted both the availability and price of guns, particularly in rural areas.12

    FACT: Kerry has voted 11 times to force law-abiding citizens to wait to exercise their Second Amendment rights. He voted to keep the federal waiting period after the National Instant Check System was in place.13

    FACT: Kerry voted twice to eliminate the Civilian Marksmanship Program.14

    FACT: Kerry wants to silence gun owners` voices. When NRA sought the same exemption from campaign finance rules that news organizations have, Kerry called that effort "hijacking America`s airwaves."15

    FACT: Kerry commended the Million Mom March for their march on Washington that included calls for gun owner licensing, gun registration and other restrictions on law-abiding gun owners.16

    If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. Supreme Court with Dianne Feinstein/Chuck Schumer/Ted Kennedy-selected anti-gun activists who believe you have no right to own any firearm.


    FACT:Kerry has voted to hold the highly regulated American firearms industry legally responsible for the illegal acts of violent criminals.6
    FACT: Kerry was one of only 18 Senators to oppose the Firearms Owners` Protection Act, which ended alarming abuses being committed under the 1968 Gun Control Act.7

    FACT:Kerry was one of only 29 Senators to vote to prohibit gun manufacturers from discharging debts created by the reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities.8

    FACT:Kerry has voted to allow BATF to conduct unlimited warrantless inspections of FFL holders.9

    FACT: Kerry has voted to criminalize legal sales between private individuals at gun shows.10

    FACT: Kerry has voted to impose penalties of a year in prison and a $10,000 fine on an adult if a juvenile steals a firearm from him, and then merely displays it in a public place.11

    FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small firearms dealers out of business, which would have impacted both the availability and price of guns, particularly in rural areas.12

    FACT: Kerry has voted 11 times to force law-abiding citizens to wait to exercise their Second Amendment rights. He voted to keep the federal waiting period after the National Instant Check System was in place.13

    FACT: Kerry voted twice to eliminate the Civilian Marksmanship Program.14

    FACT: Kerry wants to silence gun owners` voices. When NRA sought the same exemption from campaign finance rules that news organizations have, Kerry called that effort "hijacking America`s airwaves."15

    FACT: Kerry commended the Million Mom March for their march on Washington that included calls for gun owner licensing, gun registration and other restrictions on law-abiding gun owners.16

    If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. Supreme Court with Dianne Feinstein/Chuck Schumer/Ted Kennedy-selected anti-gun activists who believe you have no right to own any firearm.

    FACT:Kerry has voted to hold the highly regulated American firearms industry legally responsible for the illegal acts of violent criminals.6
    FACT: Kerry was one of only 18 Senators to oppose the Firearms Owners` Protection Act, which ended alarming abuses being committed under the 1968 Gun Control Act.7

    FACT:Kerry was one of only 29 Senators to vote to prohibit gun manufacturers from discharging debts created by the reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities.8

    FACT:Kerry has voted to allow BATF to conduct unlimited warrantless inspections of FFL holders.9

    FACT: Kerry has voted to criminalize legal sales between private individuals at gun shows.10

    FACT: Kerry has voted to impose penalties of a year in prison and a $10,000 fine on an adult if a juvenile steals a firearm from him, and then merely displays it in a public place.11

    FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small firearms dealers out of business, which would have impacted both the availability and price of guns, particularly in rural areas.12

    FACT: Kerry has voted 11 times to force law-abiding citizens to wait to exercise their Second Amendment rights. He voted to keep the federal waiting period after the National Instant Check System was in place.13

    FACT: Kerry voted twice to eliminate the Civilian Marksmanship Program.14

    FACT: Kerry wants to silence gun owners` voices. When NRA sought the same exemption from campaign finance rules that news organizations have, Kerry called that effort "hijacking America`s airwaves."15

    FACT: Kerry commended the Million Mom March for their march on Washington that included calls for gun owner licensing, gun registration and other restrictions on law-abiding gun owners.16

    If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. Supreme Court with Dianne Feinstein/Chuck Schumer/Ted Kennedy-selected anti-gun activists who believe you have no right to own any firearm.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:23 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=161

    John Kerry Wants to Ban Guns in America

    John Kerry`s two-decade long U.S. Senate record of opposing Second Amendment rights makes him the most anti-gun presidential nominee in history! Here’s the proof.

    FACT: Kerry co-sponsors a bill that would ban all semi-automatic shotguns and detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles, a gigantic step toward bringing Australian-style gun control to the U.S.1

    FACT: Kerry says, "I think you ought to tax all ammunition, personally, I think you ought to tax guns."2

    FACT: Kerry has voted nine times in favor of banning semi-auto firearms.3

    FACT: Kerry has voted for a Ted Kennedy amendment to ban most center-fire rifle ammunition, including the most common rounds used by hunters and target shooters.4

    FACT: Kerry has voted to close off hundreds of thousands of acres of the California Mojave Desert to hunting.5


     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:18 am on Fri, Apr 1, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Joanne wrote:

    Seriously, Mr. Kinderman? What makes you "think" that politicians are trying to "eliminate" the 2nd Amendment?

    -Seriously Joanne, are you that out of touch with reality that you would make such an ignorant statement? There are many politicians (primarily liberal Democrats) who would love to see the total ban of guns in America. do a simple search on google of political action committees who want to ban guns in America.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:54 am on Sun, Mar 27, 2011.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    I think the term "Skid Row" originated in Seattle, Washington, in the 1800's. If I remember correctly, it's not "Skid Row", but "Skid Road" and refers to the practice of laying sections of logs down a street, maybe greasing them (of that I'm not sure) and sending cut pieces of timber to the water below.

    It's attachment to non-affluent parts of a town or city comes from which road they actually used, and that being dependent on the wealth of the people living along that road. Obviously, the more affluent populace didn't want this in front of their homes or businesses so the road was shifted until the fewest number complained. This area was not filled with people of influence and wealth, but what we might have called "bums" growing up.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:34 pm on Fri, Mar 25, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    whatever happened to Leonard Pone?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:16 pm on Thu, Mar 24, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Kinderman.... skid row is an out dated term... but to my memory, refers to a location, especially in a city, where drunks, drug addicts and unemployed people frequent. I too have not heard anyone use that term in many years.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:57 pm on Thu, Mar 24, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    And how strange that Mr. Kinderman takes exception to the term "Skid Row." That is what Mr. Coleman's generation called what is commonly known today as the "ghetto," the "poor side of town," or the "wrong side of the tracks." In other words, a place that poor people inhabit and crime is perceived to be rampant.

    I'm sure you knew that, Mr. Kinderman. Another one of your perceived opportunities to imply that someone is ill-educated - one of your specialties.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:50 pm on Thu, Mar 24, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Kinderman stated: "that part of the Constitution many of our politicians are trying very hard to eliminate."

    Seriously, Mr. Kinderman? What makes you "think" that politicians are trying to "eliminate" the 2nd Amendment?

    Legislators who oppose THE MOST INFLUENTIAL lobby in this country, the NRA, who steadfastly support anything pro firearms no matter how harmful it is to lawful citizens, should be considered heroes. There is no reason why AK 47's should be allowed on the street. No reason that the type of ammunition clip that the AZ shooter used to slaughter innocent people should be allowed on the street.

    The manufactured "problem" that pro-gun people adhere to, do-or-die, is that the 2nd Amendment is being taken from them. When the founding fathers put this into the Constitution, there is no way they could have even fathomed that firearms would progress to the current sophisticated devices we now have.

    The Constitution is a living document. We cannot accept, carte blanche, literal interpretations. Everything has its limits, especially in today's society.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 7:25 am on Thu, Mar 24, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    This "Skid Row" that you mention four times in your letter Mr. Coleman, where exactly was/is it located and what made it so dangerous?

    I haven't heard the term "Skid Row" in a very long time as it wasn't even a part of my vernacular at any time during my short 54 years of living. I'm kind of sure it was comprised of folks out of work; "on the skids" I believe would be the correct verbiage to describe people in such a predicament.

    So, are you suggesting that crime is limited to just the Skid Rows of America; that more affluent neighborhoods are somehow exempt from those who would rob or kill us? If so, then the answer is quite simple and it won’t take a gun – move. But seriously, crime is all around us and there’s no getting completely away from it. In a nation whose laws are designed to protect not only the victims but the accused as well, this is the result. I consider it a good thing. Perhaps this is also why the Founders included the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights, that part of the Constitution many of our politicians are trying very hard to eliminate. I’m with you Mr. Coleman, but not to the extent where we start to draw lines on maps to indicate where the bad guys “might” be due to their socio/economic condition and then label those areas as “Skid Row.” Somehow I just don’t like the sound of that.

     

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