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Posted: Thursday, January 9, 2014 12:00 am

In response to the critics of some of my previous letters to the editor, let me reply with a reminder of some of those things that have been said by our president during the time he was running for office and while in office. Strong and resounding words that provided a solid platform for success. Armed with a high approval rating and an unequaled charisma, the future was in his hands.

Sadly, a squandered path taken. A partial list of utterances that have not proven to be credible:

“I will have the most transparent administration in history.”

“The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.”

“The IRS is not targeting anyone.”

“It was a spontaneous attack due to a movie.”

“If I had a son.”

“I will put an end to the type of politics that breeds division, conflict and cynicism.”

“The public will have five days to look online at every bill that lands on my desk.”

“It was not my red line.”

“I will restore trust in government.”

“You can keep your family doctor, period.”

“If you like it, you can keep your current health plan.”

“I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi.”

“I knew nothing about the IRS targeting conservative groups.”

“I knew nothing about Fast and Furious.”

“Premiums will be lowered by $2,500.”

“It’s just like shopping on Amazon.”

“I never met my uncle who is from Kenya and is in this country illegally.”

“I am not spying on Americans.”

“The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.”

“You didn’t build that.”

Americans want the truth and straight answers from their president. The above is a list of only 20 of the ways we have been subjected to untruths and misuse of power. Our ex-Secretary of State used the phrase “it just doesn’t matter” when attempting to avoid a serious question.

Well, that just doesn’t fly, as is reflected by Obama’s current slide in approval ratings. Things do matter to the public, and will continue to matter until we get it right!

Richard Viall

Woodbridge

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47 comments:

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:58 am on Wed, Jan 15, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    1. According to the DOD as of January 15, 2014, 10 a.m. EDT there have been 4423 total deaths 31942 wounded in OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM.
    [sleeping]
    http://www.defense.gov/news/casualty.pdf

    2. If my contentions are false it shouldn't be difficult for you to name ONE divergence. Do you not GET THAT, Ms. Bobin? [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:30 am on Wed, Jan 15, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Liebich wrote:

    "Why do you always find it so incredibly difficult to answer a direct question Ms. Bobin?

    1. I asked you to provide evidence concerning your "35,000 US Military casualties" claim."

    To the first, Mr. Liebich, from the DOD:

    "As of May 29, 2012, according to the U.S. Department of Defense casualty website, there were 4,487 total deaths (including both killed in action and non-hostile) and 32,223 wounded in action (WIA) as a result of Operation Iraqi Freedom."

    Happy now...or do you think the DOD is lying?

    The second I WILL NOT comment on since YOU MADE THE CLAIM, not me. Why should I have to prove YOUR CONTENTIONS? Do you not GET THAT, Mr. Liebich?

    I could care less really about an organization that has an insignificant number of members and has no relevance - unless, of course, you next want to claim that the president is a MEMBER of it....is that your next ridiculous claim?

    2. I asked you to name one divergence.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:19 am on Tue, Jan 14, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Why do you always find it so incredibly difficult to answer a direct question Ms. Bobin?

    1. I asked you to provide evidence concerning your "35,000 US Military casualties" claim.

    2. I asked you to name one divergence.


     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:35 am on Tue, Jan 14, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Liebich wrote: "Where did you hear "35,000 US Military casualties?"

    This is the reason Mr. Liebich copies and pastes all of his posts. Don't know the definition of "casualty," Mr. Liebich?

    Look it up.

    AND the reason why he REFUSES to list the parallels between the Obama administration's policies and the goals of the CPUSA. He brought it up, but DEMANDS that I outline the similarities. No critical thinking skills and no desire to acquire any.

    Much easier to parrot all the nonsense he posts here without comprehending any of it.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:58 am on Tue, Jan 14, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    How about posting a link to some of those many polls. I would really like to see them.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:23 pm on Mon, Jan 13, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    This the sort of thing Liberals do. They throw so much stuff out there, most of it nonsense. If you wanted to solve problems you would talk policy but all you are into insults and talking points.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:21 pm on Mon, Jan 13, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Chuckle,

    The polling you are speaking of is probably skewed towards getting negative responses towards our troops being over there. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how to get negative responses. Liberals do it all the time on matters for the most part should get just the opposite response. They are expecially really good at making the person respond to abortion as if it is a good thing.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:32 pm on Mon, Jan 13, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    True, the majority while Obama is in office.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:30 pm on Mon, Jan 13, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    I wasn’t aware that asking someone to substantiate their claims was an insult. Apparently liberals get insulted easily.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:40 pm on Mon, Jan 13, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Being wounded is a counted as a casualty. US deaths and wounded total more than 40,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan. There were over 32,000 wounded in Iraq alone.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:33 pm on Mon, Jan 13, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    This the sort of thing Conservatives do. They through so much stuff out there, most of it nonsense. If you wanted to solve problems you would talk policy but all you are into insults and talking points.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:16 pm on Mon, Jan 13, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    There has much polling on this matter. By a large margin they do not agree with your statement. For you to make such a statement shows your complete and utter ignorance on this subject. The people of the middle east do not appreciate us meddling into their affairs.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:38 pm on Sun, Jan 12, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    Half not true? Really? Would you be so kind as to let us in on which ones are not true and why they are not true? While you are at it, please let us in on some of the “famous lies” , proven ones, spread by FOX that you seem to think are prevalent, or are you just parroting the liberal talking heads BS?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 10:00 am on Sun, Jan 12, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Ms. Bobbin stated,

    Regardless - GWB's lies have led to 35,000 US Military casualties and at the highest estimate from the source that Baxxter believes to be one of the MOST reliable, The Lancet, 600,000 civilian casualties.

    -Evidently Ms. Bobbin could care less how offensive this statement is to the people who live in the Middle East who are fully aware if military action had not occurred, many more people would have perished.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:52 am on Sun, Jan 12, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Ms. Bobbin stated,

    Not a clue what you are talking about, Mr. Dockter

    -Chuckle,

    One of her standard replies when she doesn't want to admit she's wrong.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:49 am on Sun, Jan 12, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    And Ms. Bobbin,

    There's a difference between military operations and combat operations. Evidently you think the sign meant they are one in the same. Hence the reason why you and your ilk keep on regurgitating your propaganda.

     
  • Jack Gilder posted at 9:33 pm on Sat, Jan 11, 2014.

    Jack Gilder Posts: 26

    You could do the same thing with just about any US president, but more than half of your list isn't accurate... unless you're watching Fox News of course. That's a network famous for its lies though, so...

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:11 am on Sat, Jan 11, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Where did you hear "35,000 US Military casualties?"

    [sleeping] http://apps.washingtonpost.com/national/fallen/

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:12 am on Sat, Jan 11, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Not a clue what you are talking about, Mr. Dockter.

    Look up independent sources. GWB declared, with his flamboyant arrival, "Mission Accomplished" - combat operations in Iraq are OVER, COMPLETED.

    Anyway you try to dance around it by claiming my source is liberal media FAILS.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:09 am on Sat, Jan 11, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Think again, Mr. Kinderman. Not only GWB, but I think someone with your same last name keeps regurgitating Bill Clinton's "crimes" also. And, if memory serves, Bill has been out of office for a good 15 years. But bringing him up is just fine with YOU, as long as it serves your purpose.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:03 am on Sat, Jan 11, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    You repeated what you've heard, Baxxter, not considering which country it was about. I believe the comprehension problem lies in YOUR field.

    I was speaking of IRAQ. Clearly you just blurted out something you thought countered my point.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:23 am on Sat, Jan 11, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    Bobbin, reading comprehension problem? I never mentioned EITHER country, just military casualties.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:43 pm on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Hardly a "misstatement" Ms. Bobin.

    President Pinnocchio violated his own executive order two days after he signed it!

    [sleeping] http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/01/two-days-after/

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:42 pm on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Ms. Bobbin stated:

    GWB SPECIFICALLY meant the COMBAT MISSION IN IRAQ.

    -Ms. Bobbin,

    You're so gullible. Haven't you figured out the stuff you ger spoon fed by Chris Matthews & Co is just plain unadultered propaganda?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:38 pm on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Ms. Bobbin stated:

    We now know that would take another 10 years to extract ourselves from that God forsaken hole.

    -Hmm

    “Hillary told the president that her opposition to the [2007] surge in Iraq had been political because she was facing him in the Iowa primary. . . . The president conceded vaguely that opposition to the Iraq surge had been political. To hear the two of them making these admissions, and in front of me, was as surprising as it was dismaying.”

    While it might not be surprising that a politician would do things out of political motivations, it is surprising that a politician as seasoned as Clinton would admit it. Consider what she is saying here. “Hillary told the president that her opposition to the [2007] surge in Iraq had been political because she was facing him in the Iowa primary…” She is essentially saying that her political future is more important to her than the lives of thousands (perhaps millions) people. She didn’t care about the thousands of soldiers (and their families) that she was putting in danger (by not providing them with the support they needed). She didn’t care about the thousands of people whose lives were at risk in Afghanistan and Iraq. She didn’t care about the impact that the war could have on the future of our nation…

    All she cared about was winning the next election.

    Read more at http://eaglerising.com/4021/former-defense-secretary-slams-obama-biden-hillary-clinton/#sqW0PBGvboTrgmw7.99

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:29 pm on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Your re-direction didn't work with me Ms. Bobbin,

    I was speaking of your Freudian Slip, that being, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt you believe Bush said mission accomplished to one of the many missions the military had in Iraq. For your sake you should acknowledge this is really what he meant.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 6:15 pm on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Interesting - I cannot recall “always” invoking the name of our former president even if it might be convenient to my points. However, why would I invoke his name (or anyone else’s) if it might be inconvenient to do so? In a debate I would leave that up to an opponent.

    Nevertheless, it would be far easier to invoke the name of our current president when attempting to explain what is inherently wrong with our nation, but I find it much more entertaining watching his minions attempt to do that. For example, as this thread pertains to Governor Christie’s denial of the George Washington Bridge scandal and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz attempting to justify Obama in similar circumstances. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so pathetic.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 5:56 pm on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    A clip from the link I provided:


    How did so many lobbyists get in under Obama's supposed "lobbyist ban"? McGrath walks through the exceptions, technicalities, waivers, and apparent disregard for the rules.

    Obama on his first day in office issued an executive order restricting former lobbyists from working in his administration.

    But any lobbyist that hadn't been registered as such in two years was exempt from the rules. The two-year rule, for instance, is how former lobbyist Alan Hoffman, who represented Visa, Freddie Mac, Unocal, Chrysler, AT&T, and the American Petroleum Institute could get a job as Joe Biden's chief of staff. McGrath lists dozens of ex-lobbyists in this category.

    Even recent lobbyists are okay with Obama if their previous lobbying didn't relate to their government job. Emily Burlij was a lobbyist at Cassidy & Associates until the day Obama's Nuclear Regulatory Commission hired her as a policy advisor.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 5:53 pm on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Chuckle,

    What about that misstatement Ms. Bobbin?

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-administration-packed-with-lobbyists-he-vowed-not-to-hire/article/2533397

    Obama administration packed with lobbyists he vowed not to hire

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:40 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "A Freudian slip?" Serously, Mr. Dockter?

    The President of the United States standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier making a "Freudian slip?" You must be out of you mind!

    GWB SPECIFICALLY meant the COMBAT MISSION IN IRAQ.

    We now know that would take another 10 years to extract ourselves from that God forsaken hole.

    Not to mention the lies about WMD's and an Osama bin Laden connection to Saddam Hussein.

    Freudian slip, indeed!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:36 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    FYI, Mr. Dockter - the job is not getting done either in Afghanistan or Iraq.

    Iraq is a mess of insurgent conflicts still - and corruption.

    The same in Afghanistan.

    Places we NEVER should have gotten involved in - at least we now know that the Soviets were a lot smarter than GWB - they hightailed it out of Afghanistan, but W had the extreme HUBRIS to believe the US could do it better.

    These two countries will remain as violent and as corrupt as they were before we even had the thought of getting involved.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:25 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Dockter:

    Please refer to the ACTUAL Executive Order regarding lobbyists before proclaiming Mr. Vial's misstatement a "doozey."

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/ethics-commitments-executive-branch-personnel

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:11 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    It always pays to get around town every once in a while. These comments overheard in Raley's - from Mr. Viall's daily coffee clache of elderlies:

    "Keep writing those letters - I ALWAYS agree with them!"

    and then a serious discussion ensued:

    "A friend who was in Germany during the rise of the Nazis told me the reason Hitler was able to succeed was the lack of media communications. Good thing we have those now with Obama trying to turn this country into a socialist nation."

    to which another practically shouted: "FOX NEWS!!!"

    to which the original replied - "Yeah, it's a good thing we have FOX News to give us the REAL STORY!"

    Which devolved into a discussion about the huge amount of technology Sheppard Smith has in his studio; how brilliant Megyn Kelly is; and good thing Bill O'Reilly doesn't let anything get past him."

    At which point I had to leave before I either fell down laughing or regurgitated my coffee and donut.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:01 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Kinderman - I'm not surprised at your response, which is the one you ALWAYS bring up when you read something you think is irrelevant, but you certainly enjoy invoking the name of George Walker Bush when it is convenient to YOUR points.

    Regardless - GWB's lies have led to 35,000 US Military casualties and at the highest estimate from the source that Baxxter believes to be one of the MOST reliable, The Lancet, 600,000 civilian casualties.

    Those FACTS cannot be erased by the passage of years. If you believe they can, then your attitude is quite cavalier.

    AND Baxxter - More casualties in AFGHANISTAN - NOT IRAQ. Get your facts straight for a change. Not that we really needed to go into Afghanistan either. We didn't.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:42 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    Brian, mid May of last year, Obama declared the “war on terrorism is over”. Certainly no one who was up to speed on world events would believe this crock from our Liar in Chief. I am quite certain the liberal lemmings swallowed it, hook, line and sinker as they believe everything Obama says is fact.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:32 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    Mr. Kinderman, it doesn’t matter how long Bush has been out of office, the liberal lemmings will blame him for everything from the economy, to Obama’s bad golf scores. After all, their king Barry can do no wrong, it is all someone else’s fault. That’s the liberal way.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:22 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    A ? mark should be after slip . A Freudian Slip[beam]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:19 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Joe,

    Not so fast. I wouldn't rule out someone in Bobbin and Co admitting there were more casualties BECAUSE the job was finally getting done. [smile][beam]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:14 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    “I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."

    -This is a doozy.

    Had Obama actually thought about this statement. He would have realized it's very difficult to get anything accomplished in politics without llobbyists and save himself having to explain yet another one of his stupid moments.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:07 am on Fri, Jan 10, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Ms. Bobbin,

    A Freudian Slip. Or do you actually believe Bush meant the entire Iraq mission was accomplished and not just one of many missions in Iraq?

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:04 pm on Thu, Jan 9, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Now unless I’m terribly misinformed, but George W. Bush hasn’t been President of the United States for how many years now? Quite a few by the math I’m using. Yet still his name comes up as a defense against the current CINC’s abysmal record. I find this to be terribly silly.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:38 pm on Thu, Jan 9, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    An interesting statistic is that more military casualties have occurred since Obama became president than in the total two terms that Bush served. But the liberal lemmings just can’t seem to lay blame for anything on Barry. Always someone else’s fault, it is the liberal way.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 12:27 pm on Thu, Jan 9, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 548

    Lucas, no comment? Whats the problem, cat got your keyboard. [yawn]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:58 am on Thu, Jan 9, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Unfulfilled campaign promises and 5 years of obstruction by a Republican House of Representatives pale in comparison with the biggest lie of the 21st Century:

    Mission Accomplished!

    George W. Bush's "flight of fancy," landing on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003, and his subsequent speech declaring that combat operations in Iraq were completed (and all the lies he told leading up to this "made-up war) cannot be topped by ANYTHING that Mr. Viall has dug up from the archives.

    I doubt that any of the "quotes" named above resulted in over 4,000 deaths and over 30,000 wounded US military.

    Score: Viall - zero, Baxxter - zero George W. Bush - 35,000

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:16 am on Thu, Jan 9, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    If Hillary was smart she would quickly lose faith in his ability to govern for her to have any chance at the Presidency.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:10 am on Thu, Jan 9, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2839

    Now Now Richard,

    There's still HOPE Obama can say something we can believe. [wink]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:26 am on Thu, Jan 9, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    Good list of utterances by our Liar in Chief. Here are more:
    “I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
    “I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
    “I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
    “I believe marriage is between one man and one woman."
    "I won't seek re-election unless unemployment falls below 5%."
    “I will remove earmarks before I sign any bill.”.
    And, the list goes on and on. Worse yet ares the poor saps that believed this pathological liar and voted for him, most twice..

     

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