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Posted: Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:50 am, Sat Aug 4, 2012.

I would like to offer clarification on the difference between what our local governments, including the San Joaquin Council of Governments, are doing and what the state of California, U.S. federal government and the United Nations are doing with regards to Agenda 21.

Local governments are pushing people towards higher densities, but they are doing so to comply with State Law, specifically AB 32 and SB 375. The "guise" most often used to push people into higher density is not the preservation of land for wildlife, but rather the preservation of land for agriculture. Although my personal viewpoint is that these laws are harmful to our economy and not beneficial to our quality of life, the fact remains they are the laws of California.

SJCOG is not taking away anyone's land or rights, they are finding willful sellers of certain property rights and purchasing a conservation easement. The decision for the use of this land remains with the landowner with only the stipulation that the land must continue to be farmed, but no orchards or vineyards may be planted. Taxpayer money is not used to purchase these easements. The easements are paid for with developer money.

I am the CEO of the Building Industry Association and I represent those who pay this money to COG, and I sit on the Technical Advisory Committee at COG which oversees how the developer money is spent.

The COG Habitat Conservation Plan has nothing to do with Agenda 21 or the United Nations. It exists for compliance with the Endangered Species Act. To the best of my knowledge, the Endangered Species Act was in place long before the U.N. adopted Agenda 21.

I would suggest those who oppose Agenda 21 address their efforts to our Senate and our president, and those who oppose conservation easements should address the California Legislature — I would support them in doing so.

John Beckman

CEO, BIA of the Greater Valley

Stockton

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17 comments:

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:17 am on Wed, Aug 8, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Interesting interpretation of, "I would suggest those who oppose Agenda 21 address their efforts to our Senate and our president, and those who oppose conservation easements should address the California Legislature — I would support them in doing so."

    Agenda 21 is not a left/right issue Mr. Schmidt...Agenda 21 effects ALL Americans, even those such as yourself who for whatever reason choose to remain willfully ignorant and mentally oblivious.

    http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:48 am on Wed, Aug 8, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2410

    A great letter from Mr Beckman. Given his position in the local GOP establishment, I salute Mr Beckman's courage in standing up to the crazies that have infected the local Republican Party.

    A timely reminder that, just because you are a Republican, you aren't necessarily a raging psychotic.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:44 pm on Sun, Aug 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Andrew stated...Interesting statement Darrell considering your past "vapor caper" comments and 9/11 denial

    Andrew, what is your conclusion as to why I treated 9/11 and many of your posts since then differently? I think if you read your own posts you should notice it is you that has changed. I always respond at the level in which I am engaged.

    Why do you think I said "vapor capor"?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 2:33 pm on Sun, Aug 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Interesting statement Darrell considering your past "vapor caper" comments and 9/11 denial.. [innocent]

    You are correct though in reference to Agenda 21.
    I find it interesting that people can "perceive" anything from a document they haven't even bothered to read.

    Anyway, On June 9, 2011, President Obama signed his 86th Executive Order, and almost nobody noticed. Guess why?

    Weinergate.

    The White House Rural Council = Agenda 21

    and guess what... It's 2 inches from all our faces!

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 7:47 am on Sun, Aug 5, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Actually paragraph f below is VERY important also and is EXACTLY what is going on. People's property is being inventoried, categorized and mapped...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:10 am on Sun, Aug 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Interesting that people will ignore what is 2 inches from their face if they perceive something is a conspiracy.

    agenda 21 in my view is simply a power and money issue where people who want it are doing something to get it.

    Thanks for your posts Kim...

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 4:44 pm on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    This is off UN website Chapter 10 on Sustainable Development..pay special attention to paragraph C
    10.7. Governments at the appropriate level, with the support of regional and international organizations, should review and, if appropiate, revise planning and management systems to facilitate an integrated approach. To do this, they should:

    (a) Adopt planning and management systems that facilitate the integration of environmental components such as air, water, land and other natural resources, using landscape ecological planning (LANDEP) or other approaches that focus on, for example, an ecosystem or a watershed;

    (b) Adopt strategic frameworks that allow the integration of both developmental and environmental goals; examples of these frameworks include sustainable livelihood systems, rural development, the World Conservation Strategy/Caring for the Earth, primary environmental care (PEC) and others;

    (c) Establish a general framework for land-use and physical planning within which specialized and more detailed sectoral plans (e.g., for protected areas, agriculture, forests, human settlements, rural development) can be developed; establish intersectoral consultative bodies to streamline project planning and implementation;

    (d) Strengthen management systems for land and natural resources by including appropriate traditional and indigenous methods; examples of these practices include pastoralism, Hema reserves (traditional Islamic land reserves) and terraced agriculture;

    (e) Examine and, if necessary, establish innovative and flexible approaches to programme funding;

    (f) Compile detailed land capability inventories to guide sustainable land resources allocation, management and use at the national and local levels.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 3:47 pm on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    A friend of mine spoke with Debbie Bacigalupi who went to Rio+20. (Her parents have been harassed on their land up in one of the northern counties and threatened by armed US officials) She interviewed many people from all over the world. She asked them if they had heard of ICLEI and Agenda21. They said “Of Course. You are joking right? Agenda21 and ICLEI are very powerful and are everywhere”. She told them that in America the people who mention this are ridiculed and laughed at. They couldn’t believe her. You see the rest of the world knows what is going on. The only ones that don’t know are the Americans. We don’t know because the MSM is bought and paid for and does not talk about it. The truth is we’ve been lied to all our lives. Agenda21 is all about the redistribution of wealth of the American people to developing nations. The developing nations know this and they love it of course.

     
  • Ted Lauchland posted at 2:44 pm on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 254

    Ag easements and habitat easements don't work unless you have several together. Having an ag parcel surrounded by a city creates that parcel to be a wasteland - unfarmable. I've seen it happen when I've looked at the county's general plan maps.
    Perhaps a better approach to these easements might be to allow an out. Setting it up like a Williamson Act property and make it require a ten year timeline to get it out of the easement restrictions in such cases might encourage good stewardship of the land.The WA requires the moneys saved to be paid back before anything thing else can be done with the land. It's back to letting money talk which does not secure food in your mouth though.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 1:49 pm on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Ag and Natural Mitigation Fees for 2012 are 14,732.00 per acre, OPen Space are 7,195.00 per acre, Vernal Pool is 41,534 per acre and Vernal Pool wetted is $81,989.00 per acre. Think this is not out of control? If removal of elderberries are involved there is a fee of $1,800 per VELB unit (which equals 1 stem over 1"in diameter at ground lever) and that is paid to the COG INC or a VELB MITIGATION BANK (whatever the heck that acronym is- they love using acronyms)
    This is not about saving the planet and the Animal Kingdom.. this is about control and money...Always follow the money...

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 1:42 pm on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Mr Beckman says "The COG Habitat Conservation Plan has nothing to do with Agenda 21 or the United Nations. It exists for compliance with the Endangered Species Act. To the best of my knowledge, the Endangered Species Act was in place long before the U.N. adopted Agenda 21."
    Then why are easements being bought up, in the name of the Swainson's Hawk when it is no longer "Listed" on the federal registry, and it is not even listed on the IUCN registry either. Sure it is on the California Endangered Species list, but what isn't?

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 1:24 pm on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    I also express concern that our elected officials do not seem to question anything handed down from the state, or from the "Staff" of City Councils or the COG. Staff recommends something and there might be a question or 2 asked at meetings but everyone nods their heads and agrees to Staff reports. The County Planning Board had personnel cutbacks so what do they do? Go in the back door and hire a consultant, and one that is very well versed in Smart Growth, climate change and Sustainable Development. Maybe conservation easements are not tax dollars per se, but they are PUBLIC money taken in on Ag and Habitat mitigation fees. This money is then used to buy conservation easements. Yes, the land owner is still the land owner, but the Easement Holder is the COG, INC and now the Manager is some outfit in Sacramento called ICF International.These easements are perpetual and if these people ever want to sell their property- good luck. The latest large easement bought will have signage keeping the public out, and the COG Inc is getting a grant from the USDA of 756,000. WHOS money is that?? The American taxpayer- so let's stop fooling the people. Funny how since one person getting educated on the subject writes an article in the paper against what is going on and now we have a feel good story about a walnut grower in Lockeford thrilled about selling one. He did this for his grandchildren- so they could farm their land in slavery? It is looking more and more like the farmers in Midieval England, only even our modern day serfs will not even have a say in what they grow... If this fellow's grandchild ever decides he doesn't want to be a walnut grower- maybe he wants to train horses and put up a horse facility- he's is SOL. Now we have Mr Beckman refuting what we are learning. I just think if what we are exposing is all nonsense, why all the attention to the subject? Have any of you heard about the California Habitat Connectivity Report? Google it- it is a 300+ page document about connecting all these habitat lands. .America is suffering from a severe case of Normalcy Bias...It can't happen here...

     
  • Ted Lauchland posted at 11:51 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 254

    Thanks John for the info..

    I do disagree with you on two points however. Your personal preferences on quality of life involves the idea that "California sprawl" is better when I have talked to people that live in New York City that wouldn't want to live anywhere else because of it's lifestyle.

    The second point is economics has to do with affordability and more efficient use of space provides cheaper services, less travel expense and the ability to protect lives more readily. Relate it to the good old castles of Scotland if you must. They had their purpose. Forest fires are hard to defend against in California because of our typical sprawl.
    China and Japan have density issues because of high populations and in Japan's case lack of land. California provides food for many people including them. Tell me where the economy suffers from any of that. With density comes efficiency for both the people and the ag industry. - You get the most out of the land to produce things cheaper for our variety of waged consumers out there to afford.
    Stacking people on people has to do with the city and the developers. If drawing a line between the city and ag pushes the cities to back fill on vacancies it increases efficiency. If it pushes the city to do something about blight it also pushes the developers to make their moneys uplifting the bad areas of town. Is that not bettering the quality of life ?

    It's also up to them to create the parks for people to enjoy. Not everyone has the time or the desire for yard work and would rather spend time sailing on a lake than mowing a five acre lawn.
    You know me - quality of life has to do with the culture presented with ag. . Not everyones cup of tea though.
    And - of course - with density comes people and all their problems - our problems.

    To you what is the actual quality of life ?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:14 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin... even a child could comprehend I was not connecting agenda 21 with China. There is no connection that I was asserting. I simply stated China is a model that one can study. If agenda 21 succeeds in United States, we already can see what it will look like. may I suggest you take a trip to Hong Kong, and take the train I did... or since I video recorded the trip, please look at my you tube video...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:44 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Beckman wrote: "I would suggest those who oppose Agenda 21 address their efforts to our Senate and our president, and those who oppose conservation easements should address the California Legislature — I would support them in doing so."

    I guess certain people only read a small amount of the content before firing off their know-it-all responses.

    Agenda 21 was adopted in 1992/1993.

    I am quite sure that the Chinese were being packed into godawful highrise slums way before that time, courtesy of their communist overlords.

    Have you ever seen inner-city projects? That's the US's answer to providing government subsidized, low-income, high density housing in major US cities. Again, most were built decades before Agenda 21.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:02 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    The question to ask is... why is there no concern from people like Mr Beckman who are involved in the process? Is it ok to simply state they are only trying to comply with state mandates. Is that the end of their responsibility to the citizens? Of course we should be lawful. But shouldn't public outcry be encouraged to prevent our government from doing what the Chinese government has done to their people in population density?

    I think it is irresponsible to simply state ... we are only attempting to comply with the law.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:52 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Beckman writes an article that I believe is very accurate. I think Local governments are pushing people towards higher densities, but they are doing so to comply with State Law, specifically AB 32 and SB 375…and those local governments are not “consciously” doing anything to further agenda 21 objectives
    .
    However, does that mean there is no connection?

    I rode in a train from Hong Kong to Guangzhou, China which shocked me. I was expecting to see Chinese architecture and style of housing. Instead, I saw the end result of what agenda 21 wants to accomplish. I would pass city after city in which the density of people was obvious. I did not see one single family unit in 6 hours of travel. Instead, I say apartments and condos 10-30 stories high with no trees, gardens or landscapes we are accustomed to. No front lawns or walkways. Once the train left the city, there was immediately empty space, no housing at all.
    http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/agenda-21-regional-planning-and-sustainable-development/

    According to an analysis by the Wall Street Journal, if these planners have their way, by the year 2035, 68 percent of all new housing built in Southern California would be condos and apartment complexes.
    Unfortunately, this type of housing may be all that the average person living in California will be able to afford in the future. According to U.S. demographer Joel Kotkin, as hard as it is for a middle class family to afford a home in California now, “things will only get worse in the coming years as Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown and his green cadre implement their ‘smart growth’ plans to cram the proletariat into high density housing.”

     

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