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Proposition 32 doesn’t take away the voice of middle-class

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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:50 am, Sat Oct 20, 2012.

What does Proposition 32 really say?

Section 1. E: For these reasons, and in order to curb actual corruption and the appearance of corruption of our government by corporate and labor union contributions, the people of the State of California hereby enact the Stop Special Interest Money Now Act in order to: Ban both corporate and labor union contributions to candidates; Prohibit government contractors from contributing money to government officials who award them contracts; Prohibit corporations and labor unions from collecting political funds from employees and union members using the inherently coercive means of payroll deductions; and Make all employee political contributions by any other means strictly voluntary, www.sos.ca.gov/elections/vig-public-display/110612-general-election/prop-32/prop-32-text.pdf.

Jeff Johnson ("Proposition 32 will silence middle-class Californians," published Sept. 19) should read and study the text of Proposition 32. Please show me in the text where the proposition will prohibit all unions from using payroll deductions to collect regular dues or negatively affect their having a voice in working conditions, safety and education of our children.

As for exempting LLC's, the bill's stated definition of a corporation: Section II, (a) "Corporation" means every corporation organized under the laws of the state, any other state of the United States, or the District of Columbia, or under an act of the Congress of the United States, www.sos.ca.gov/elections/vig-public-display/110612-general-election/prop-32/prop-32-text.pdf.

The public employees unions are going all-out to preserve their incestuous relationship with the Democratic Party to whom they give around 90 percent of the contributions they extract from forced payroll deductions of their members. As of Sept. 18, contributions to the "NO" campaign were $35.7 million dollars. Of this amount, 66 percent of the contributions came from education unions and the SEIU. CTA led the pack — $16,095.825.

The airwaves are full of union-sponsored ads voicing the same misconceptions as Johnson. How many of the Lodi teachers feel it is immoral to extract forced dues to pay for political positions they don't support? Remember Prop. 8 when Lodi teachers signed a Letter to the Editor disagreeing with the union position. Yet their union assessed them $60 a year for three years to pay for union support of gay marriage.

Phyllis Roche


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  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:30 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Lastly, unions enjoy forcing its members to pay dues. If each worker could decide to join a union or decline their service, I would not support this proposition.

    However, unions are nothing more that authoritarian dictators that demand and force its members to be members... Cearly this proposition is needed in order to help and support hard working people who cannot defend themselves from such powerful corrupt entities.

    Corporations and unions should never force employees to join anything. One might think we were in a communist country when reading the perspectives of people like Mr Borrow and Chase.

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:20 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Chase stated…Ms. Roche is the best example of a non-thinking right wing ideologue.

    Clearly, Mr Chase is a hypocrite and non-thinking left wing union thug … we have a proposition on the ballet that seeks to protect workers from entities that take advantage of them… the following is the exact wording from the secretary of states office…

    Prohibits unions from using payroll-deducted funds for political purposes. Applies same use prohibition to payroll deductions, if any, by corporations or government contractors. Prohibits union and corporate contributions to candidates and their committees. Prohibits government contractor contributions to elected officers or their committees. Fiscal Impact: Increased costs to state and local government, potentially exceeding $1 million annually, to implement and enforce the measure’s requirements.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 11:58 am on Sun, Oct 21, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Well said Jeff

  • Jeff Chase posted at 11:03 am on Sat, Oct 20, 2012.

    Jeff Chase Posts: 12

    Ms. Roche is the best example of a non-thinking right wing ideologue. I wouldn't be surprised if she also errononeously thinks Obamacare took over private health companies, that there's going to be a 1% surcharge on all bank deposits, that Obama issued the most Executive Orders in history and that Obama is going to place a 4% tax on all real estate transactions! (All false.) The right wing list goes on. Read 32 again Phyllis and then read the 14th Amendment: "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 32 will purposefully create one set of rules for union members, while exempting businesses due to the fact that they don't contribute to campaigns via their employees paychecks. It's sets an unequal standard for political participation. Certainly--as a Republican you support the Constitution don't you? Or is it only when it suits your narrow ideology? If you can't see this prop--which most newspapers in Calfornia have urged a no vote on---do us all a favor and don't vote. We need informed folks participating in elections.


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