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Posted: Saturday, May 7, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 6:44 am, Sat May 7, 2011.

I agree with not showing the picture of Osama bin Laden, because it would only inflame our enemies more than they are. We have troops in more than 80 spots around the world, and they are the ones who would take the brunt of the retaliation, because they are the closest Americans. We have lost enough troops in this part of the world.

We give billions to Pakistan each year, then they burn our flag. It's beyond me why we send so much money around the world when we owe more than $14 trillion.

Our country is so far in debt and we still send money around the world. Does any other country do that? I don't think so.

We have 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, and have been there longer than the Russians (10 years). We have learned nothing from the loss they suffered to a bunch of guys in robes and sandals.

We want to convert that country into a democratic country with the population being 80 percent illiterate and few natural resources — in 10 years, what has it cost us in lives and national treasure? We should bring most of our troops home and start taking care of our own needs; all the world is laughing at us because of how far we are in debt.

Walter White

Lodi

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22 comments:

  • Mike Adams posted at 7:19 pm on Mon, May 9, 2011.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1314

    Daniel: According to recent news, there were none of the medications a person who required dialysis would have been taking. Of course you might say they weren't there because OBL was already dead. You just need to reconsile the DNA and all the other evidence that proves it was OBL. Sometime intel just ain't right.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:00 am on Mon, May 9, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Darrell wrote:

    how bad can they be?... they wanted to defeat George Bush... that is “bobin” think.

    -Now that is an accurate statement.

    And Darrell,
    There is no doubt in most people's minds Terrorist groups will claim responsibility
    for an act of terror for recruitment purposes.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:20 am on Mon, May 9, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ms Bobin stated...That must also apply to Al Qaeda's declaration in 2001 that they were responsible for 9/11

    Of course it applies in 2001 Ms Bobin as well as 2002...2003 ... they are the enemy(to me) Ms Bobin... I do not ever take what they say and assume it is truth under any circumstance... I prefer to depend on independent verification... in your case, you consider the enemy George Bush, Palin and the Tea PARTY... so naturally, you feel more comfortable depending on Al Qaeda as one source of truth rather than who you see as the real enemy. It is common knowledge that some terrorist groups claim responsibility for doing horrible things in order to bolster their reputation as an organization to fear and also to recruit people who want to do us harm... so obviously, I would never trust their word about anything... I can understand now why you were so confused about my statement... you too do not trust the enemy...it just that we perceive differently who the enemy is... that explains why you are so comfortable and quick to assume truth comes from Al Qaeda ...how bad can they be?... they wanted to defeat George Bush... that is “bobin” think.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:02 am on Mon, May 9, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Ms. Bobin,

    Unlike you, most people question Al Qaeda's truthfulness. Why you have a problem
    with that is beyond me. And since you have no facts to back up why you think Al Qaeda has always been truthful I have to conclude you really are desperate to try to make yourself seem like you know what you are talking about.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:32 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    And Mr. Baumbach's usual blather is even more irrelevant than ever. Who in their right mind would even come up with a sentence like: "Not surprising that Ms Bobin would take the word of " Al Qaeda" as definitive evidence of what truth is." That must also apply to Al Qaeda's declaration in 2001 that they were responsible for 9/11. Did you fall for that, Mr. Baumbach? Of course not, judging from your statement above.

    Just trying to help you - re-read what you post before you post it to avoid paradoxical statements and the ultimate embarrassment that accompanies them.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:16 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Thanks for the reality check, Mr. Docktor (sorry, I misspelled your last name on my last post). I momentarily forgot that you are a part of the Boys Club, forever patting each other on the back and high-fiving every ZINGER you think you deliver. Juvenile.

    As for Jerry...I've always suspected he was a bitter misogynist (what?? marriage gone bad....took you for everything you own?), but I would never have pegged him for someone who would ACTUALLY tell women to remember their "place" in society," i.e.,

    "Now don’t most of you have specific family members who require tending to on this most sacred of informal national holidays; or are you still relying upon them to prepare their own celebratory luncheons/dinners for all to enjoy whilst you ATTEMPT to argue on the News-Sentinel comments section? They must be so proud!"

    YOU must be so PROUD, Jerry.....


     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 6:41 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2315

    Oops! I think your secret is out, Mr. Hutchins. Since you submit more than a few letters to the editor of this newspaper with your real name affixed and given the fact that you also submit quite a few comments in response to your own letters on this forum (again with your actual name affixed to those as well), your well-informed friends are more than likely aware that you are "typing" here. I do hope such an association with people of our kind won't result in you being either expelled from whatever clubs you're in or at the very least being shunned by those who elect to type elsewhere. I'd hate to have that happen to you.

    Of course, there is a solution to this problem . . .

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:52 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ms Bobin stated....Al Qaeda has already issued an acknowledgment that OBL was killed by US forces and declared their intent to retaliate...

    Not surprising that Ms Bobin would take the word of " Al Qaeda" as definitive evidence of what truth is... if in fact, their own people killed Bin Laden to avoid possible information being extracted from him, it would be to their advantage to claim USA did it. I am not saying I know what happened as there are so many conflicting stories. However, after hearing a SEALS retired commander say he felt that was a possibility, who knows? I definitely would not assume our enemy is telling the truth, like Ms Bobin.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 4:16 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Doctor, People who use the term "conspiracy theory" are people who don't understand the corporate nature of the District of Columbia. Ditto London.

    I am not a conspiracy theoriest. For the purposes of education, I am one who has elected to share amongst people.

    There are some extremely well-informed people in Lodi who do not elect to share within this forum, and they would probably criticize me if they knew that I was typing here.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:02 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Frankly Ms. Bobin,

    Most of us never attack you. We just state the obvious about you. There is a difference.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:40 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Doctor: You are absolutely correct. Let me make one alteration to your comments. I did not mention "the right." However, if you consider the persons to who I was responding (actually, I did not intend to include Daniel in my opening sentence), then I guess one could conclude, as you did, that I meant "the right."

    There are people on both the left and the right who have questions about the SEAL's mission to "arrest" or eliminate OBL. Only a select few will ever know the truth - at least in our lifetimes (unless Wikileaks gets ahold of top secret info).

    The bottom line is that this villain has been eliminated. Whether we need to see pictures of the body is questionable. As to their "gory" nature - what do we not see on any of the numerous crime dramas on TV right now? Often more than we would like.

    Al Qaeda has already issued an acknowledgment that OBL was killed by US forces and declared their intent to retaliate. I'm sure this inevitability was taken into account 10 years ago when we set out to hunt him down. Pictures of the actual event are not necessary and will only serve to inflame his followers and others.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:23 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Not surprising that Mr. Kinderman has felt the need to make a personal attack by commenting on my lack of "capacity to understand what was written for their benefit..." I understood completely what you wrote - simply put, contradictory statements.

    Actually, Mother's Day does not require ME to be "tending to" "specific family members," but vice versa. Both, after the usual acknowledgement of the day, are busy with their graduate studies/finals. As their mother I understand their priorities and they, in turn, are respecting both their parents with their educational successes.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:44 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2315

    I doubt that most of the time the troubles on this forum do not come from those who don't re-read what they've written prior to posting, but from those who lack the capacity to understand what was written for their benefit and/or entertainment. However, it is exceedingly amusing to witness the typical contributors who seemingly emerge from thin air with their predictable responses.

    Now don’t most of you have specific family members who require tending to on this most sacred of informal national holidays; or are you still relying upon them to prepare their own celebratory luncheons/dinners for all to enjoy whilst you attempt to argue on the News-Sentinel comments section? They must be so proud!

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 12:40 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    To put it bluntly. The Dems and Reps are a two-headed beast.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 12:37 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Joanne,

    We may never know the actual facts behind how the killing of OBL transpired. That being said, for you to conclude that only those on the right have come up with conspiracy theories, based on a certain amount of skewed information we can neither confirm or deny, is just another example of how ignorant you are of how
    the left is just as or even more dishonest than the right.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:08 pm on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Really...do all of you actually re-read what you write before you post?

    For someone who has continually complained that we should not make comparisons to the Bush Administration any longer, Mr. Baumbach was right on it. The Abu Ghraib incident was a human rights issue, however I am sure that you will now argue that the killing of OBL was a human rights issue also just to try to prove that you are correct (as usual).

    Mr. Kinderman brings up the spectre of conspiracy theories, then proceeds to outline his own, i.e., "I cannot possibly believe that any president that wants the credit for dealing with the 21st Century's "bad boy" would want even a hint of uncertainty to undermine the importance of such a colossal event; unless of course, this is what is intended."

    Daniel: Given OBL's financial resources and the 38K sq. ft. compound in which he lived, I'm sure he had taken into account provisions for his medical condition...another reason he could no longer live in the caves of Tora Bora.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:52 am on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Cough...cough...cough...smoke! JK: you don't need tranparency to see...DB...justice lies in the eye of the be (Eric) holder not the courts. The Acclaimed College Lunatic Union is trying desperately to become relevant in the wake of BO, Holder, Napalm-atano and the rest of the tabloids who register in the White House. They quite freakly are not needed right now...wait until the tide changes.

    Release the pictures I say!!!! If they are too bad I will only look with one eye!!!

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:56 am on Sun, May 8, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2315

    Not releasing the photographs of the bin Laden killing serves only those who wish to start another round of conspiracy theories. To suggest that the American people can't handle the gory details or that it "would only inflame our enemies more than they are," is silly - just plain ridiculous. In fact, the theorists have already begun questioning the manner in which the operation was carried out.

    I cannot possibly believe that any president that wants the credit for dealing with the 21st Century's "bad boy" would want even a hint of uncertainty to undermine the importance of such a colossal event; unless of course, this is what is intended. After all, just how long did it take for President Obama to finally release his birth certificate; and we’re still waiting for his academic records to be released.

    For a presidential candidate who ran on the promise of transparency in his administration, Obama has been as vague as they come. Either he’s nowhere near as bright as we’ve all been led to believe, or he’s following some very stupid advice from whoever is pulling the strings in the White House. Regardless of what’s going on behind the scenes, it makes President Obama appear very dishonest.

     
  • Robert Jacobs posted at 10:29 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.

    Robert Jacobs Posts: 298

    You mean clean up our own backyard before we tell others how to clean up theirs?

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:24 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Darrell, that's a good one.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:21 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr White then must be very irritated with the ACLU and all the democrats who strongly demanded
    that these inflammatory pictures be released of Abu Ghraib... it did not matter what they thought would happen to our troupes then.. it was much more important to use this event to discredit George W and increase the chances of the democrats winning elections. It did not matter if troupes were in danger or were killed because of the increased risk that would result... no.. it was justifiable then...

    I wonder if the ACLU and the democrats will show outrage now, like they did then... will they sue Obama's administration and demand release of photos? Since their guy (Obama) is in charge... fat chance. How do you spell disgusting hypocrites? I think it is “Democrat”

    Posted on Sun Apr 26, 2009 ...http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/4/26/105136/000

    Can it be five years since the horrendous photos at Abu Ghraib were released? Yes.
    The ACLU has been fighting all this time to obtain more photos of the abuse. As a result of their 2004 lawsuit, the Defense Department will release additional photos from Abu Ghraib and other prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan on May 28.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 3:32 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    My "gut feeling" is that Osama BL was already dead from natural causes.
    Recall that he was said to have kidney failure.

    I think that the journalists were silent because he was dead.

    People with kidney failure don't continue living without surgery or continual visits to the dialysis clinic.
    If such were the case for Osama, it would have been all over the news, but journalists were silent to discuss his health.

     

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