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Posted: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 6:14 am, Tue Nov 1, 2011.

First, let me set Frank Caruso straight. I am an Independent, not a Republican. I have no brand. What I have is common sense when it comes to sifting through lies told by both parties.

You chose to pick out what one Republican said and brand the whole GOP. How many Democrats thought the same of Bush but didn’t get caught saying it? Let’s be real.

Obama is on tape saying you can’t raise taxes at a time like this. Now with the election getting close, he is campaigning and saying what the left wants to hear. Tax the rich. Make them pay their fair share.

Obama made Jeffrey Immelt his jobs czar. That’s right — GE, the ones who paid no federal tax and the ones moving jobs to China.

This president has thrown away billions on green jobs. He wanted to jump-start his green jobs act with Solyndra in Southern California. He was warned that this was a bad investment, and actually told the date that they would go bankrupt. Guess what, they were right. Half a billion of our tax dollars were wasted.

They even put us, the taxpayer, second in line to receive any money when they went bankrupt. Obama has a rich friend who put millions into Solyndra, and he will get his money. Not us. This may well be illegal and is being investigated.

This president couldn’t care less how much money he has wasted creating so few jobs. Republicans have had numerous jobs bills, and Harry Reid tabled them. Republicans can get nothing done controlling just the House. Remember, the Democrats had control of both the House and Senate for two years under Obama; how many jobs did they create?

Wake up, people. Washington is not looking out for you.

Give businesses what they need to come home and hire local. Get the unions out of government. They only want more. Term limits for all who go to Washington. And one more thing, Mr. Caruso: I will vote for the person who I think can better all Americans. No spin here.

John Krueg

Lodi

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31 comments:

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:15 am on Sun, Nov 6, 2011.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Mr H: "We need to see what the Republicans are doing... besides creating a new, repetitive bill making "In God We Trust" the national motto." See below:

    ms b: Read below...it took me all of 1 minute to find all of these Rebublican jobs bills.
    You remind me of the Japanese three monkeys...hear, see...wait two...we can leave out speak no evil.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:10 am on Sun, Nov 6, 2011.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Republicans did nothing?

    Kay Bailey Hutchison, Bill Flores push for passage of ‘Forgotten 15′ Republican jobs bills
    1) H.R. 872—Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act
    2) H.R. 910—Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011:
    3) H.J.Res. 37—Disapproving the rule submitted by the Federal Communications Commission with respect to regulating the Internet and broadband industry practices:
    4) H.R. 1230—Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act:
    5) H.R. 1229—Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act:
    6) H.R. 1231—Reversing President Obama's Offshore Moratorium Act
    7) H.R. 2021—The Jobs and Energy Permitting Act of 2011
    8) H.R. 2018—Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011:
    9) H.R. 1315—Consumer Financial Protection & Soundness Improvement Act:
    10) H.R. 1938— North American-Made Energy Security Act:
    11) H.R. 2587—Protecting Jobs From Government Interference Act
    12) H.R. 2401—Transparency In Regulatory Analysis Of Impacts On The Nation:
    13) H.R. 2681—Cement Sector Regulatory Relief Act:
    14) H.R. 2250—EPA Regulatory Relief Act:
    15) H.R. 2273—Coal Residuals Reuse and Management Act

    And counting:

    16) H.R. 2433—Veterans Opportunity to Work Act

    17) H.R. 674—To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the imposition of 3 percent withholding on certain payments made to vendors by government entities:

    Most important:

    18) H.Con.Res. 34—Budget for Fiscal Year 2012: The FY 2012 budget resolution passed by House Republicans promotes job creation and certainty by preventing the president’s job destroying tax increases and runaway spending.

    Enough proof?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:33 am on Sat, Nov 5, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Rick stated...have been unable to provide any of the "numerous" jobs bills submitted by Republicans.

    Rick... unfortunately, no one knows how to answer your vague question. Maybe if you articulated what it is that you are talking about, someone could respond.

    Again, please define "jobs bills" ... For example, the Ryan Bill could easily be considered a jobs bill... many things could... for you to state the republicans have done "nothing" when in fact the Democrats vehemently disagree with you, makes you look uneducated. If the Republicans have done nothing as you so foolishly proclaim, then Reid would not have announced over and over again that the bills passed by Congress were DOA... If Bills were passed, that means they did something... but people like you wanted what they did killed.

    For example, Reid Calls GOP Debt Bill 'Dead on Arrival' as White House Threatens Veto (Reid's bill is also dead)
    Fox News ^ | 7/26/2011 | fox news
    Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:02:40 PM by tobyhill
    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid warned Tuesday that the House Republicans' deficit-reduction bill is "dead on arrival" in his chamber, as the Obama administration issued a formal veto threat and pushed lawmakers to reach a "compromise." At the same time, House conservatives began to peel off from the bill being pushed by House Speaker John Boehner.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 2:52 pm on Fri, Nov 4, 2011.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Apparently the Democrats are good at stonewalling jobs bills also. From the New York Times:
    “Today’s job report underscores the need for immediate action on the more than 15 bipartisan House-passed jobs bills that are gathering dust in the Democratic-controlled Senate,” House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) said at a press conference Friday morning. “There’s no reason — not one — for Senate Democrats to delay action on these bills any longer.”

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 11:38 am on Fri, Nov 4, 2011.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    :HOUDACK, I never claimed anything about Republican job bills. I asked you about what the wonderful Obama and his faithful subjects have done that are genuine job creating actions. No answer from you, typical liberal response. What government/union job are you benefiting from?

     
  • Rick Houdack posted at 7:07 pm on Thu, Nov 3, 2011.

    Rick Houdack Posts: 146

    So... It would seem that Baxter, Chapman, Krueg, etc. along with the unstable compulsive blogger, have been unable to provide any of the "numerous" jobs bills submitted by Republicans.

    Why is that?

    Not only why is it that Republicans have done NOTHING, but why, WHY are the complicit shills so eager to lie for them? Why is that? What does Krueg gain by telling an absolute lie? And why to dupes rush to join him?

    Crazy. Just crazy.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 8:34 am on Thu, Nov 3, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    The silence is dea fening

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:18 pm on Wed, Nov 2, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark,
    OK. Enjoy.
    We already know that your bank (US Treasury) is bankrupt, but can you believe that it is also insolvent?
    Let's see if your voting can solve that problem.

     
  • MARK TROVINGER posted at 10:20 am on Wed, Nov 2, 2011.

    MARK TROVINGER Posts: 204

    Mr. Hutchins I wouldn't care to read or study about your claim that the USA is a limited corporation and not an actual nation. I am more than content to believe that the United States of America does actually exist as a nation, that I and my 300 million close friends are citizens of that great nation and that my vote counts and has the power to create changes within that nation. I'm quite happy living in, and believing in, this so-called delusion. So thanks....but no thanks.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:44 am on Wed, Nov 2, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark, I gave you a good link to study. I think you would enjoy reading it.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:44 am on Wed, Nov 2, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark, In my dialog below, somewhere, I believe that I stated that they (the people in New York and the District of Columbia) are laughing at the people who think that their votes are counting, or that their vote will help change Washington.

    This state of mind has persisted for 150 years, without change for the good.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:42 am on Wed, Nov 2, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark, You wrote, "get off their butts and cast votes"

    In the evenings and weekends, I work for the establishment of a constitutional republic 30 additional hours / week, after I do my paid work. My rate of pay for these 30 hours is the standard $0.00, although this could change.

    I also spend a substantial amount of my own money.

    Also I believe that I am in a position now where I can begin to assist people with foreclosures.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:36 am on Wed, Nov 2, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark, "United States of America" of america exists as the District of Columbia.

    United States of America, Incorporated is registered in the Delaware Secretary of State as a corporation.

    The United States of America, Incorporated, a separate corporation, is also registered in the Delaware Secretary of State as a corporation.

     
  • MARK TROVINGER posted at 11:16 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    MARK TROVINGER Posts: 204

    It appears that Daniel Hutchins doesn't vote because he doesn't seem to believe that the United States of America even exists. This is the first time I have ever heard anyone make this sort of claim. I doubt that this opinion is shared by more than a handful of people. At least the people who are registered to vote, and actually do vote have a power to accomplish something in this society whether or not they would believe that this country exists or not.

    You would think that Mr. Hutchins would at least vote for the candidates that might be willing to do what is necessary to establish a bonified country for the 250+ million people that are living here under the false impression that this country actually does exist.

    No matter what party a person is register under to vote, at least they are participating in the process to change this this society into something better. Even though all of the parties differ on how to improve the country, each person votes to improve the country. I doubt that anyone would cast a vote to elect someone, if they believed that person was bad for the country.

    If anyone wants to see changes made in Washington, then they have to get off their butts and cast votes to make the changes. Mr. Hutchins never did answer the question about how to make changes in Washington without voting. I believe most of us would believe that voting for changes will accomplish changes and sitting at home, refusing to vote, does nothing to change anything.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:28 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark,
    For the next several days, I will be very busy, and I don't know if I will have an opportunity to respond. If you ask a question, I will probably see it in the evening in my travels, but I will only be able to respond at brief opportunities.
    But please ask anyway.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:27 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark, "What if the vote was used as a method to show disapproval of the problems coming out of Washington?"

    They are laughing at you for believing that your vote counts for anything. Then they use your registration as if it were consent to exploit the fruits of your labor, and your life.

    You asked, "What is a person to do ... ?"

    Understand your status in society is a major step, and I have offered a solution below.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:24 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Joanne Bobin: Thank you for not referring to me as "Mister."

    I don't know if you would call the below discussion "underground." Although we are not hiding, I have to be careful not to advertise as a complete teacher, which would not be appropriate.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:11 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Mark (or anyone else interested),

    Thank you for the question.

    If you want to vote in the interest of the American republic and its people, and in the interest of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America, then join and vote in the de jure republic, as is reported in the link given below.

    The de jure American republic, is now entitled, “Republic for the united States of America, and its re-inhabitation was notified to the Hague, on March 31, 2010. We were working against an imperative April 1, 2010 deadline.

    http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/
    Click the tab labeled “What is the republic.” Click History.
    Also, click “Republic Contacts,” State Contact info. You can see that the republic is attempting to gather points of contacts in all 50 state republics, and this is serious.

    If you are registered to vote as a U.S. Citizen, then you are supporting the District of Columbia, and all of its parent holding companies and their private contracts. You have accepted a “benefit privilege” of membership in the corporation, which is a subsidiary of the City of London Corporation. All corporations in the world are subsidiaries of the City of London Corporation.

    Presently, I am interested in studying the relationship between present-day United States, and “City of London Corporation,” “East India Company” and “Hudson's Bay Company.” (My knowledge on these is very limited.) Wikipedia states, “[Hudson's Bay Company] functioned as the de facto government in parts of North America before European states and later the United States laid claim to those territories.” Thus it is related to the British invasion onto this continent. Of course they are old, but in history they served to represent British interest on this continent. Hudson Bay still operates in Canada. Same corporation.
    These links also state that they were related to the requests to the Queen of England to provide ships under the English flag.
    Compare the flag of the East India Company to the American flag, and to the State of Hawaii’s flag, and you may judge if these are not related.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:41 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Good idea Rick...Let's examine how you and Ms Bobin are defining jobs bills. Are we talking about legislation that would create a business friendly environment or simply a spending bill?
    For example, Congress voted to repeal Obamacare. If that Bill would have passed, more jobs would have been created since it would have resolved a fear factor that business perceives. There are many bills that would likely create jobs. Just because you and Ms Bobin are demanding a bill that has the term "JOBS" in it, does not mean you have a clue what you are talking about.

    I think a more pertinent observation that has significance is that the senate has proven it has poor leadership and is an incompetent do nothing entity. How long has it been since they have pasted a budget??? It has been a political lifetime.

    The only think they have done well is stone wall the numerous bills that were sent to them by the Congress that would have helped our country.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 7:27 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Rich Houdack, I might ask you AND Joanne just what has Obama and the democrats done to produce jobs? A program that actually worked and eased unemployment AND didn't plunge America deeper in debt? Paying people for forced jobs with borrowed money is economic suicide. Something our current White House Occupant is adept at doing, some say intentionally.

     
  • Rick Houdack posted at 7:01 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Rick Houdack Posts: 146

    I wonder if correspondent John Krueg or his appologist Joe Baxter can mention the names of a few of the numerous Republican jobs bills or tell us who wrote them? Ms. Bobin asked but nothing has come of her (I think) reasonable request.

    And, as a special favor, if either of the gentlemen could tell us about the numerous Republican jobs bills without going on about Obama, shovel-ready, Solyndra, rich buddies, Kool Aid, morons, etc.

    We need to see what the Republicans are doing... besides creating a new, repetitive bill making "In God We Trust" the national motto.

    Numerous Republican jobs bills.
    Anyone?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:59 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Please excuse the double post, the first time gave me an error message so I re-sent it.
    I think America has found out the true definition of " shovel ready". It means keep your shovel ready to clean up all the BS that Obama is spreading.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:18 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Ms. Bobin, please explain just how this new deal is going to create jobs? Sink America deeper in dept to finance some "infrastructure" jobs and when the money is all used up, no more jobs but the bill comes due to be paid by the taxpayer, taxpayers children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. Wonderful plan, some morons might even swallow that load of malarkey, I mean after all, it worked so well the first time around.. But, with your Kool-Aid chaser, it might go down easier.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:18 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Ms. Bobin, please explain just how this new deal is going to create jobs? Sink America deeper in dept to finance some "infrastructure" jobs and when the money is all used up, no more jobs but the bill comes due to be paid by the taxpayer, taxpayers children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. Wonderful plan, some morons might even swallow that load of malarkey, I mean after all, it worked so well the first time around.. But, with your Kool-Aid chaser, it might go down easier.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:14 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ms Bobin stated...but Obama was very clear on taxes at YE 2010 when the Bush Tax Cuts were set to expire. He had to compromise with the GOP by letting the tax cuts for the rich be extended in order for the middle class cuts to also be extended. Without taking care of the rich (the so-called "Job Creators, as Cantor refers to them

    Obviously, Ms Bobin is busy again watching Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann and Saturday Night Live in helping her form her educated opinions. Clearly, Ms Bobin is joking...again...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:27 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    I believe Daniel Hutchins has "gone underground" for reasons other than dissatisfaction with Washington.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:05 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Krueg wrote: "Obama is on tape saying you can’t raise taxes at a time like this. Now with the election getting close, he is campaigning and saying what the left wants to hear. Tax the rich. Make them pay their fair share."

    Maybe Mr. Krueg missed this since he probably has been watching too much FOX News, but Obama was very clear on taxes at YE 2010 when the Bush Tax Cuts were set to expire. He had to compromise with the GOP by letting the tax cuts for the rich be extended in order for the middle class cuts to also be extended. Without taking care of the rich (the so-called "Job Creators, as Cantor refers to them - hmmm...just how many jobs did they create between 2001 and 2010?), the GOP was willing to let the middle class eat dirt.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:58 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Funny, Mr. Baxter. I Googled "GOP jobs plans or bills" worded about 5 different ways, and the only thing that came up was the GOP plan submitted this past month after Obama submitted his plan.

    But maybe that is because the "mainstream media" has scrubbed the Internet of any reference to all of the "jobs bills" the GOP has tried to get through.

    You and Mr. Krueg are certainly swallowing the same Kool Aid, i.e., the belief that so many GOP bills have been submitted and "shot down by the Democrats."

    Your post is an obvious attempt at humor, right?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:56 pm on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Of course Republicans have tried to introduce jobs bills and were shot down by the Democrats. But, that news just never seems to make the mainstream media. The newspapers and televised news is so slanted towards Obama and the liberals that the American public aren't getting fair reporting and evaluations. One has to be a detective to find out exactly what is really going on. I suggest that before you accept what you read and see, dig deep and verify.

     
  • MARK TROVINGER posted at 10:41 am on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    MARK TROVINGER Posts: 204

    Mr. Hutchins do I read you correctly? Are you saying that you refuse to allow yourself to vote? You claim that if a person is voting, this means that the person is approving the problems coming out of Washington. What if the vote was used as a method to show disapproval of the problems coming out of Washington?

    What is a person to do, if they don't vote and don't like what is happening in, or coming out of Washington? What can that person do to help change something they think is bad into something better, without voting for a change?

    Hopefully you will conscientiously answer the question above because I don't see any other way to make change without voting for changes. I'm also sure that others would be interested in learning about some other way to effect changes in the government without voting. Thanks.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:52 am on Tue, Nov 1, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    John Krueg:

    I see you separated yourself from the two Rep - Dem sides, but you are still arguing, and you are still registered to vote.

    I tried the Independent part for about a month before I pulled myself completely out of voter registration, and more.

    I claim that if you are voting, that you approve of the problems coming out of Washington, that you have accepted a benefit privilege of membership in the District of Columbia. You endorse it, and you support it. You have co-signed nonetheless.

     

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