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Posted: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 6:17 am, Tue Jun 7, 2011.

In my first response to “60 Minutes’” propaganda stunt, “Who are ‘sovereign citizens’?” I focus on the propaganda behind the title, with which “60 Minutes” has propagandized citizens’ acceptance of their standing within society.

At the top of the Constitution, the sovereign who created the government is expressed as “We the People.” In comparison, the term “citizen” is not defined within the original constitution. It is very important that if someone claims citizenship within a government, that they be the creator, or sovereign, of that government.

This meaning couldn’t possibly be “60 Minutes’” intended meaning of the term “sovereign citizens.” (They would never give such a message.)

Unfortunately, United States was not created by the Constitution. It is a corporation incorporated after the Civil War. By the 14th amendment, proper-noun Citizens are corporate in nature, and they do not have a Constitution. President Lincoln was not alive when slavery was transformed under the 14th amendment, which was proposed by Congress in 1866.

The ultimate sovereign is God, and excepting the Bible, the Magna Carta is the highest form of God’s law as manifested on the land. I would place the Declaration of Independence in second place.

Daniel Hutchins

Acampo

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45 comments:

  • Mike Adams posted at 3:00 pm on Thu, Jun 16, 2011.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1377

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-504803_162-20062804-3.html?assetTypeId=41&blogId=504803

    If you go here, there are more posts by DANIEL- like people. They speak in DANIEL speak.

    It's very funny (the things they say, not the posters).
    Sad kind of....the number of people who think like DANIEL

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 8:05 am on Mon, Jun 13, 2011.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1377

    7:53 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    "Under Common Law the Judge seems to have much more power. I don't like this.
    Under our current system the Judge can only interpret the law, not make law. The lawmaking is left to the 3 branches of our government".

    I think you meant that "only the legislative branch of government makes laws"
    The executive branch enforces the laws. the judicial branch interprets laws.
    I think you made a mistake, no big deal

    Will daniel's pretend governments survive? My guess is not. If you need to sue someone, you want to go to a real court with a real judge, baliff, sheriff, etc. Not a bunch of wahoos playing government officials.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:08 am on Sun, Jun 12, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Brian,

    If you have a common law grand jury, you can issue a true bill and a writ.

    You can issue an opportunity for the defendant to respond into your court, if you give them the name and address of a clerk to receive the response.
    You also need a treasury, because you can demand that if the respondant enters a response, that they must tender a piece of silver.

    In about 5 counties, we currently have justices, clerks, bailiff, sheriff, notary, postmaster, and a court. The courts that have been served have all rejected the writs that were served, and steps are being taken to seize the judges' bonds. My opinion is that an appeal can be made at a higher court, and eventually, somewhere below the supreme court, we will prevail. I don't have a case citation, but I believe there are citations that the common law is the highest form of law, and the de facto courts must step aside.


     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:03 am on Sun, Jun 12, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Brian,

    You asked, "do you realize what it would take to create a Common Law system of courts?"

    Yes, as a matter of fact I do. Myself and my friends are currently organizing de jure county governments in Califoronia. our goal is to organize all 58 counties.

    You have the power to convene an common law administrative court, but if the matter is criminal, it won't stop the defacto corrupt system from taking you prisoner, although you could emerge with a lien right on the public officials' public service bond, if you can find it.

    Right now, in San Bernardino County, a common law jury is also organized, and they are acting like defacto personalities using tea party methodologies, in a criminal trial. I think the two defendants will go to jail, and they will lose their children, mainly because in S.B. County, the people are organized by the same defacto principles.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:51 am on Sun, Jun 12, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Brian,

    Your statements of comparison between judges and the common law are vice versa.

    It is impossible for corporate government to assemble anything under the common law, because common law is derived from the people on the land.


     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:08 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    I would liken Common Law to; the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:06 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    Daniel,

    I would rather opt out of Common Law. You know how liberal judges lick their chops
    if they think they have the slightest chance to make and amend laws on the bench.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:53 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    Under Common Law the Judge seems to have much more power. I don't like this.
    Under our current system the Judge can only interpret the law, not make law. The lawmaking is left to the 3 branches of our government. So, I would rather not see a judge be able to make and amend laws as the trial proceeds. And I have to retract my statement saying Common Law is more fair to the people.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:42 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    And do you realize what it would take to create a Common Law system of courts?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:37 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    Daniel,

    Why , in your mind, do we not have Common Law Courts?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:35 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    Daniel,

    It seems to me Common Law Courts would be more fair to the people in general. and the people being tried, of course. And we should take note the Magna Carta was authored in Britain.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 2:59 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Under the common law, there are only about a dozen unwritten laws.

    Do not injure anybody.

    Do not steal from anybody.

    I can't think of anymore.

    If you read the Magna Carta, you will see things like a right to travel to and from ones place of living without molestation by the King's people. Does this not remind one of the California Highway Patrol and municipal police who act under contract from the DMV?

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 2:55 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    In conclusion, there are two forms of government: de jure government of and by the people, under the common law on the land, and de facto corporate rule by military force.

    In law, common law is a higher form of government than contract. This means that a common law court is superior to a corporate court. That is why the inferior california court system calls itself "Superior Court," to direct peoples' attention away from their inferior nature. Notice that "Superior Court" is just a name. It could be called "John."

    A common law court can overrule a criminal sentence by an inferior corporate court such as a "Superior Court" ruling.

    This means that all people in prison who were convicted in an inferior "Superior Court" can have new trials under the common law.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 2:49 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Brian,

    Also, the corporation is masquerading as a government which is using the united states constitution.

    Again, the change occurred at the conclusion of the civil war, best exemplified by the Buck Act, which directed military troops to occupy southern states, but the legislation was used to occupy ALL states, and the Buck Act has never been repealed and is in effect today.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:42 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Brian,

    Thank you. Magna Carta and Declaration of Independence are both signed on the land. These are formed by people.

    In contradistinction, California's second constitution is entirely corporate in nature. Not one speck of people in the document.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:27 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    It's amazing how much fishing equipment one can amass only to bragg to their friends how many lures they have they would never use because they are just to expensive to lose.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:23 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2830

    Daniel wrote:


    The ultimate sovereign is God, and excepting the Bible, the Magna Carta is the highest form of God’s law as manifested on the land. I would place the Declaration of Independence in second place.

    -Let's get off the fishing crap. It's boring!!!!!!!!!! Anyone disagree with Daniel's statement above?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:22 am on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Great idea!! Ill have to bring my super soaker... Imagine your surprise when I pop out of the water in my gear... supersoaker in hand... and your powder gets soaked ... the fish will roar with approval...

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 11:24 am on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Chuckle...

    My powder is never wet, either.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:54 am on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Darrell, my line is never limp..

    Of course... thats why it will be such a surprise when it finally happens... Power to the fish!!!!

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 9:01 am on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Darrell, my line is never limp.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 7:33 am on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    I think people will stop fishing now.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:16 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Steve... since I do not fish, I took up Scuba diving ... I normally dive in mountain lakes to help save the fish from fisherman... if your line goes limp, its probably me doing my thing with my handy underwater knife... all I can say is ...Save the fish!!!!!!!!!

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:18 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Chuckle.....

    Welcome to Lodi. Just don't cross my line the next time you are fishing on the Delta.

     
  • Ryan Jameson posted at 1:18 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Ryan Jameson Posts: 195

    Steve, I'm sure that if people from Alabama could read, they would be very offended by your post.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:21 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Ryan, I didn't realize it was a contest. Besides, six generations is a relative term. In Alabama, that would be about 45 years.

     
  • Ryan Jameson posted at 7:39 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Ryan Jameson Posts: 195

    In all seriousness I do respect the right of all peoples to use our national forests and recreation areas no matter there they are from.

    On a less serious note; Steve, my family has been in Amador County for 6 generations, do you really want to have the argument about who has more "family" investment?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 5:08 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Ryan, my great grandfather fished Silver before the first time they raised the dam. There used to be a picture of his fishing buddy Mr Blue up behind the counter at Kays with the biggest trout I have ever seen.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 4:30 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    You're right, let's talk about something serious. Anyone else watch the American Chopper build off between Jr and sr? Wow the voting is lop-sided.

     
  • Ryan Jameson posted at 4:29 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Ryan Jameson Posts: 195

    So, you people are those flat-landers who have been fishing out my favorite spots! I grew up in Amador and spent many a summer fishing Woods, Caples (both of which are actually in Alpine Co.) Silver, Bear River, etc. Then one year it was like the city people finally discovered these places. Woods lake and woods creek are both fished out. Caples, Silver and Bear have few native trout left but it's mostly planters. It's a shame to see these weekend warriors going up there and over-fishing those lakes. They have a bad habit of trying to crowd one fishing hole and constantly throw their lines over other peoples lines. I have a bad habit of cutting the line of any person who does this to me. So, if any of you are at Caples this year and get your lines cut by another fishermen, remember that it is your fault.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:44 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Mmmmmm.... I can smell the chum now. Its like the TV commercial, fishing $75, beer, $35, time away from inlaws..... PRICELESS!

    You want to talk about some sport fishing that really is a sport, there is always abalone diving. A friend of mine was diving recently on the coast and it was 45 degrees in the water and 45 in the air. Sure, he got some abalone but, with the threat of hypothermia, they almost got him as well.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 3:33 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Please view the 15-minute video on 60-Minutes.

    This story is important, not about important fishing, because two people who were teaching mortgage fraud are now dead. I spoke with these two people several times, and I learned quite a bit.

    In response to the shooting, 60-Minutes seized the event as an opportunity to run an anti-sovereignty report.

    On the report, I saw my very good friend Donna on one of the pictures.

    They also mentioned the Montana Freemen, and I have something to say about them.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 3:03 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    Don't like lake fishing much, but I've been deep sea fishing off the Oregon coast. Even with bad sea sickness the whole day it was a blast. That could have been that I was away from the in-laws though. Not the best investment, $75 for 20#'s of fish that didn't even taste all that good. But it was a fun day and the jellyfish enjoyed all the extra chum i put back in the water.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 1:37 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Caples. Oh. I forgot about those big fish in Caples. I think there might be mackinaw also.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 1:08 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    No, there are definitely German Browns in Caples.

    http://capleslakeresort.wordpress.com/tag/german/

    I always heard the golden trout were supposed to be in Lake Winnemucca. I thought Round Top was too high for anything but minnows.

    Unrelated to fishing, I once saw some nut snow board down that big mountain behind Lake Winnemucca in late July. He was following a a glacier in a crevasse and I was sure he was going to die right there in front of us but we ran into him later that day and he was fine.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 12:44 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Up at the crest of the Sierra, at "Elephant's Back" and Frog Lake, is the border between a species of fish called the Mule Deer and the Black Tails.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 12:42 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    OK. I can't stand it anymore.

    I never heard of any brown trout above 7000 feet. Browns are down at 4000. Up high, the Eastern Brooks are still there from having been planted 50 years ago. There are a lot of rainbows, in general, and back over by Blue Lakes, they might be cutthroats. Very unusual, up at Round Top Lake, there are golden trout.

    I used to practically live up there. I camped on Baymard's property until it was sold and the US Forest "service" kicked us out and told us to move to the campgrounds. (we never camped in the campgrounds ever.) My grandfather knew Baymard and camped on his property since he was a teen-ager (1920's).

    The best way to get fish up there is to hike into a lake, with a rubber raft, and either troll or fly fish. If you fly fish, each lake requires a different fly.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:36 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    I hear there is still 10+ feet of snow at Carson Pass.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:34 pm on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    That is some beautiful country up there. We often camp at Woods Lake in the overflow and then hike to various lakes further up. You sure can see some stars up there.

    As for the fish, you should know that as corporations, they have no rights. That said, unless I am backpacking and need the food, I usually do catch and release which leaves the fish pretty much unharmed unless they swallow the hook.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:51 am on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Steve... I never fish as I am concerned with fish rights... but I do goes up past Caples Lake to Hope Valley, turn right and go about 12 miles to upper and lower Blue lakes... that is a great starting point to backpack and fish. Its about 8500 foot elevation I think.
    Its so quiet and peaceful there as 88 is out of sight and ear shot.

     
  • Bob Smith posted at 11:48 am on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Bob Smith Posts: 128

    I think this thread has enough bait already. Daniel's not biting.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 10:56 am on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Anybody else thinking about putting some bait to hook this summer?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 10:54 am on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Those rainbows and browns will be good and hungry though when the ice clears. This summer I may even backpack into some of the back country lakes and see if I can get me some wild golden trout. That'll be fly fishing, though, and I am not all that talented with that casting.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 10:52 am on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Its been a while, but I love to go up to Caples Lake off of 88 and do some trout fishing. I guess the way things have been this year, I won't be able to get a line in there until mid July.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:43 am on Tue, Jun 7, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Daniel, you ever do much fishing?

     

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