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Posted: Monday, April 2, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 9:45 am, Mon Apr 2, 2012.

I want to balance the federal budget as much as anyone, but it is not going to happen if we elect the same bunch to Congress. The Congress (House of Representatives) by law is in charge of our tax money. Does the current Congress want to cut the budget? You decide.

Why is there an argument over buying M1 Abrams tanks? The Pentagon does not want any more. They tried to give 400 of them away to Greece. We don't need any more F-16s, either, but Romania wanted them for free! Again, the Pentagon does not want any. Yet our fiscally conservative Republican Congress is forcing the military to buy them. Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics are just two of the problems. There are 435 more problems that the voter can solve in November.

I remember this conversation in 1992. The V-22 Osprey was considered useless, and yet 61 of them were built by Clinton and promptly mothballed. People, the military has at least 20 percent of the budget. That's almost $1 trillion each year; add an extra trillion for the two Middle East wars and another trillion in discretionary spending by Congress. If you can do math, maybe you can understand my point.

The men and women of the military are not the problem — you people who vote are the problem. We need to vote out all of them. The information is all there — start reading! And don't forget to vote!

Jerry Bransom

Lodi

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19 comments:

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:34 pm on Wed, Apr 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    DB wrote: I am very confused.

    Chuckle.... truer words were never spoken!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:35 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ms Bobin stated...That's called "critical thinking," Mr. Baumbach. Do more, criticize less, make more appropriate comments ...

    Ms Bobin... please read what you copied from my post. I asked two questions after I said I was confused. How is asking 2 questions meant to clarify my confusion in any way making critical statements? If you want to be constructive, I suggest you actually read what I stated before making a comment. Mr Maple never said anyone spoke for Obama. Steve insisted that he did. Maybe you can figure it out after you finally comprehend what actually happened.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 5:23 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    "NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call". Hmmmm...I wonder if the liberal left ahsosels and the nbp who spread the garbage will apologize too???

    Tawana Brawley anyone? Just how did those gashes get into Mr Z's head? Newly enhanced video shows them. Hey Al...Jesse...Shabazz...

    Of course though...NBC didn't LIE about it...just edited it out. My personal opinion is that the State of Florida should prosecute NBC and get back some of the money NBC forced the state/local to spend because of their LIES! NBC didn't just aid and abetting...they flat cooked this one up. I believe a crime has been committed.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 3:51 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    "Obama in no way threatened the Supreme Court"...that's not what the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals thinks.

    The nbp are the equivalent of AH's Brown Shirts...thugs who go around frightening people into inaction...at voting sites, city councils, offering a $1M " bounty" for a "murderer"...(the story changes every day). and a host of other threats. THREATS first...action next. This is exactly how AH took over his country...first came the promises (prosperity and change) then the lies (we are the gov and we are here to help), then the intimidation (Krystal Nacht), then the threats (get on the trains) then the action (death). "This is "White Supremacy"... we will burn the town down"...Mr Chabazz's words...not mine. As I have said before I will not be silenced by morons, idiots, thugs, punks or the left wing media.

    msb: Critical thinking isn't just what one thinks...it is the function of that thought that matters. Think all you want...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:06 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Maple: "Read some history msb...AH was elected to his position (dictator) by only 11% of the population."

    And this has to do with????? Need to quit smoking that pipe, Mr. Maple!

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "I am very confused... How did Steve draw a conclusion that anyone thinks The Black panthers "SPEAK FOR OBAMA: when is supporting anyone speaking for anyone?... Bizarre."

    Answer: Mr. Maple wrote: "He came from the thuggery capital of politics... Chigago. He now has the backing of the New Black Pathers in Detroit accusing the city council of "White Supremacy", and if they don't give them what they want they are going to "burn the city to the ground".."

    That's called "critical thinking," Mr. Baumbach. Do more, criticize less, make more appropriate comments instead of comments you believe will be a mocking commentary of those with whom you disagree.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:52 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Read some history msb...AH was elected to his position (dictator) by only 11% of the population.

    "Racists come in all shades and sizes.I think all people of good faith should join together in condemning these yahoos with the same vigor that we condemn their spiritual brethren on the right." Faith and color does ot compute. For a black congresswoman to call people " Red, Yellow, White, Black or..." is a truly offensive statement. I am sure that Dennis Banks and Russel Means might take umbrage with her statement...but not the left. Sad

    mrt: "I do not condone or approve of Mr. Shabazz's comment/threat, but you can kind of understand his anger..." no I do not...the government takes more and more of my income every year...IF I complain people like you say I am greedy or selfish or don't want to help...to which I say hogwash.

    Mr S: "...these NBP people are really a nasty bit of work." Agreed

    Where is mskl? Why is she not standing up against this THIS threat of violence?
    She must think that some types of violence is okay...like the several riots in LA where people were actually killed. How about Philly, NY, Detroit, Chicago, Oakland, or any one of a host of these types of "demonstrations"? NOW we have BO's buddy Bill Ayers speaking out...maybe bomb a few federal buildings??? May be a few more "Days of Rage" riots by the Weatherman? Or maybe the "Students for a Democratic Societ, can plan a "National Action" built around John Jacobs' slogan, "bring the war home."???

    It seems every time these hooligans start thinking their meal ticket (BO) is going to be taken away...they jump up and riot.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:30 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Pat stated...He now has the backing of the New Black Pathers in Detroit accusing the city council of "White Supremacy", and if they don't give them what they want they are going to "burn the city to the ground".. Reminds me of the Brown Shirts in Germany.

    Steve responded...Saying that the New Black Panthers speak for Obama is like saying that the KKK speaks for Romney.

    I am very confused... How did Steve draw a conclusion that anyone thinks The Black panthers "SPEAK FOR OBAMA: when is supporting anyone speaking for anyone?... Bizarre.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 5:13 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Jeff, people in Michigan certainly have lots of reasons to loathe their local Republicans but these NBP people are really a nasty bit of work.

    Racists come in all shades and sizes.I think all people of good faith should join together in condemning these yahoos with the same vigor that we condemn their spiritual brethren on the right.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 4:45 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 539

    Pat, that wouldn't been in response to the uber-un-democratic undertaking by the Republican governor and legislature to usurp all power from the democratically elected officials of Michigan cities, under the guise of "emergency management", would it? You know all of those cities that have already or planned for take over that will account for more than half of all African-Americans in the state. That's right, Michigan's GOP governor and legislators are taking away local democratic rights from approx. 51% of the state's AA citizens.

    I do not condone or approve of Mr. Shabazz's comment/threat, but you can kind of understand his anger...

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:42 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Was I mistaken with regards to the context? Do you not, in fact, own the company that I mentioned?

    Given the fact that we are all operating under our real names, I did not think there would be any prohibition against discussing your occupation and the businesses that you own. While many people would find these facts embarrassing, I can't think of any way in which they could possibly be considered libelous.

    I guess we just have to chalk it up to the fundamental capriciousness of the censors and their desire to protect conservative posters.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:18 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Saying that the New Black Panthers speak for Obama is like saying that the KKK speaks for Romney.

    Just because a politician happens to share a skin color with an extremist group doesn't mean that they are affiliated.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:16 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Kim, where is the right wing rage at these "activist judges" who, having declared their corporate masters "citizens", now seek to do their bidding and legislate a result that their party didn't have the votes to achieve in the House?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:15 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    I was not surprised... considering the content of your posts in which required response from me to balance. Had I been the monitor, I would have done the same. Good decision on their part from my perspective since the nature of the posts were counterproductive. In fact, I would classify them as indecent.

    My only comment would be... good job! ( to the monitor)

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:11 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    My guess - an off-topic personal attack on the part of Mr. Baumbach?

    Mr. Maple and Ms. Parigoris as usual making exaggerated comments. Obama in no way threatened the Supreme Court as she implied, nor does he think he is in charge of all 3 branches of government. This is the type of immature, inflamatory language the TEA Party loves to use.

    Mr. Maple's comments seem to imply that Obama is accusing the city council of White Supremacy and that he will employ the NBPP to burn the city down.

    Can't you two write a comprehensive sentence that doesn't employ language that deliberately distorts the facts? From what I've seen in the past, the answer is "NO."

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:34 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Darrell, do you know why our earlier conversation appears to have been deleted?

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 3:08 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Kim: That surprises you?? He came from the thuggery capital of politics... Chigago.

    He now has the backing of the New Black Pathers in Detroit accusing the city council of "White Supremacy", and if they don't give them what they want they are going to "burn the city to the ground".. Reminds me of the Brown Shirts in Germany.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 2:19 pm on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 469

    So we have a Democrat Congress who passed this travesty of a bill (Obamacare) with much Presidential pressure; arm twisting, backroom deals, and threats and whose House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told us all how many jobs it was going to create, and that we had to pass the bill to know what was in it.. Now we have the President issuing "stern language" to the Supreme Court. "President Obama on Monday issued stern language to the Supreme Court of the United States regarding his health care law, expressing confidence "Obamacare" will not be overturned by the nation's highest court."" There are 3 branches of government for a reason - for checks and balances -but apparently our President feels that he is in charge of all three. I believe that scenario is called a dictatorship.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:35 am on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    CONTINUED...

    So obviously, Mr Bransom was completely right. We should vote out all legislators that would prevent us from balancing the budget. ALL democrats voted for this expensive monstrosity and all Republicans voted against it. We need to repeal Obamacare which will go a long way to balancing the budget. Only Republicans want to repeal Obamacare which of not aborted, will break the bank.
    Thank you Mr Bransom for bringing this issue to light.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:34 am on Mon, Apr 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Bransom makes an excellent point in the wasteful spending of our government and electing legislators who are likely to help balance the budget.

    If we don't need a certain kind of tank, stop spending the money. Great point. However, the examples Mr Bransom gave are very low in priority when it comes to over spending.

    So where is the big money. Lets start with Obamacare. Trillions of dollars are at stake as is the healthcare of our nation. His own government offices have stated its going to cost double over what was projected just a year ago and the plan has not even started. A online source stated that
    the CBO released accounting data which shows that repealing the national health care law would reduce net government spending by $540 billion in the ten year period from 2012 through 2021; that number represents the cost of the new provisions, minus Medicare cuts.

     

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