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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:00 am

In the Lodi News-Sentinel on March 13, a front-page headline read "Applying for Obama health plan not easy." Many have commented on the coming disaster of "Obamacare," so I'll let this news stand alone and go to other news recently.

The drama queen that is our Doomsayer-in-Chief cut every worker's pay by 2 percent with new payroll taxes in January, yet claims a 2-percent cut in government spending will bring us Armageddon. I belong to a military family, and they've been informed that because of the sequester, tuition assistance is getting suspended, yet illegal aliens (if you don't like this term then don't come here illegally) can still receive tuition assistance. Then Saturday, Obama declares that White House tours are suspended because of this draconian cut of 2 cents on the dollar.

The White House tours are conducted by volunteers. For all those who've been educated in the government re-education camps (aka public schools) since the inception of the Department of Education by Nixon, "volunteer" means they do it for free out of their sense of love for this country. There is only one paid employee, who's in charge of these volunteers. She received a raise of over $30,000 this year. She is still on the job as of this writing. Then there are almost 40 FBI agents who watch over these tours so as no one does anything untoward. They have been reassigned to other duties — no furloughs. Everything is as it was except American citizens are barred from the people's house, which is against the law.

The same week Obama closed the tours, he threw his new Secretary of State Kerry authorization to provide aid in the amount of $250 million, 16 F-16 fighters and 200 Abrams tanks to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. And you wonder why Israel doesn't trust Obama.

Lastly, we learned from the government's budget office that the government will take in $2.7 trillion in taxes this year — the most in our history. But the government spends $3.8 trillion, and these liberals claim we need more spending to save the economy.

Truly, the liberal mind is where logic goes to die!

Ron Portal

Lodi

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56 comments:

  • Simon Birch posted at 4:09 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Simon Birch - Online Manager Posts: 164 Staff

    Joanne, Mike, Doug, Andrew, John, Daniel, Jerome and many others would probably dispute your "fake names" accusation. I'm not naive enough to think we're 100 percent pure here with real names, but I do try to enforce that rule, as you should know. The people who comment here and I have had our disagreements, and will no doubt have more, but I do thank them for participating in this forum and having the courage to do so with their real names.

     
  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 2:13 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    99er Posts: 119

    Damn.... I've been away couple months and was kinda disappointed when I looked at the comments page, seems like its the same 10 people using the same 10 'mask' and using the same 10 fake names, running each other down with the same 'belittlements'

    We are really going to have to change our ways if we expect to change conditions.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 4:15 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 448

    Nope. They just smoke their " medicinal marijuana" openly and chant 4:20.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:53 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1889

    Like all good liberals, they pee on you and try to tell you it's raining.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:18 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1889

    And there is this thing called "projected MALARKEY".

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:06 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1565

    I know you think you have a gotcha video there but you miss the point what Clinton said was that we have confiscated Saddam's stockpile and if he is not watched he will replenish it. Obviously he did not replenish it and if Bush would have let the inspectors due their job we would have known that but then what excuse would Bush Cheney and Rumsfeld had for invading?
    Do you ever wonder why all those videos you watch need to be so chopped up to prove their point? I mean I know why but do you ever wonder or as soon as they tell you what you want to hear do just go all Cheshire?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:37 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1889

    Mr. Liebich, I wonder that after our resident Clinton groupies watched this YouTube clip they ingested handfuls of Prozac and are sitting quietly in a dark closet chanting "say it ain't so"....

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:02 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Much appreciated Ron. It's an infowar!

    Keep writing those letters...[thumbup]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:50 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Your post begs to be "simonized" as it violates rules 2,4,5,6 and 8.
    [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:24 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Hard to believe but I agree with much of what you have stated.

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 8:09 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    I agree with you that Iraq and also Afghanistan isn't worth the life of one American soldiers life. Bush , who I have several problems with, trusted his advisors and went into this too quickly [ In hindsight]. They were also getting intel from other nations that were confirming what they thought they knew. This war was not unilateral...there were 34 other nations involved in helping us. It took months before the invasion and many transports were seen going into Syria that could of possibly been carrying WMD's...no one knows. All that being said...we should of got out ASAP when it was discovered we had been wrong. I also have not heard a clear explanation on why we're in Afghanistan or what our exit strategy was for both countries. If we go to war and we don't have a clear mission and clear exit strategy [as it was in VietNam] then we are asking for disaster. How do you feel about drones, Joanne? The CIA people who waterboarded 3 terrorists were threatened with imprisonment and Bush with impeachment yet under Obama thousands have been killed [many women and children] and not a peep out of the national media or many liberals for that matter.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 8:02 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1443

    Ed: I guess you've been "simonized".

    According to simon, you have to ask politely to post anything of any value and are forbidden to use some words such as the nickname for someone named "Richard", or worse, the first or last name of the actor who played Laura's wife and wrote for the "Alan Brady Show".

    He also allows some to continually post offensive and plagiarized information intended to incite an argument with complete and utter safety from being deleted.

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 7:46 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Projection...yes I know John...that's what I explained in the post before yours. You seem to be following my lead...run out of ideas have you?

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 7:36 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Andrew...just want to thank you for your posts. You're always very informative and entertaining. Your research is impressive...something I either don't have the time or the expertise to do so you do me a great service in keeping me informed. Thanks again!

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 7:31 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    There is, according to the GAO, over $125 billion dollars of fraud and waste that could be easily corrected without any hardship to gov't workers or the military. As for everyone works...did I say or imply that I'm the only one working? No, I didn't. Ten hours though is a decent part-time endeavor. And where is it that I've said anything about being easily offended? Your imagination is getting a little ahead of you and assuming my putting forth an argument that is opposed to yours is automatically "offensive" tells me that you are the one easily offended. As with most liberals, you project yourself onto others and assume they think this or that because that's what you'd be thinking.

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 7:13 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Ms. Bobin, I would never call someone receiving survivors benefits from a deceased husband, father, mother, wife a loser. But to say that there is no fraud or waste in Social Security is a little naïve, isn't it?

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 7:04 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Ed... Semper Fi back at ya. I was also MCRD and God Bless!

     
  • Robert Jacobs posted at 7:02 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Robert Jacobs Posts: 298

    What else is new Ron...Your comment rings surprise by what our arrogant, greedy, and hypocritical leaders in Washington do... This kind of behavior has been going on for over fifty years and it's not going to stop any time soon...

    All we can do is hope they don't completely destroy our country before we are buried and aren't forced to watch it happen any longer!

    It is most certainly pathetic...

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:07 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The Obama regime refuses to prosecute the Bush regime. [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:52 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Why did the Social Security Administration recently purchase 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets that will be delivered to 41 locations across the country?
    [sleeping]

    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=6c39a2a9f00a10187a1432388a3301e5&tab=core&_cview=0&fb_source=message

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:43 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The Brotherhood and its allies won the elections in Egypt.
    [sleeping]
    There was an argument to be made in favor of U.S. financial assistance when the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces were the real power-brokers and served as a check on the Brotherhood’s power. That is no longer the case Mr. Lucas. Morsi was able to depose the top leaders and replace them with Brotherhood supporters.
    [sleeping]

    P.S. The global 9/11 truth and justice movement has an ally in Egypt’s president and aspiring dictator.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 7:14 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 586

    Perhaps you can tell me what profanity was used in my post

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:18 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Selective amnesia... [lol] http://youtu.be/ACffW99kOB8

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:50 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1565

    Of course it is, just like state workers pensions. My point is that when we start cutting government we are talking about miltary as well as teachers and many other government workers.SS will be cut as well as medicare were exactly do you think the cuts the right keeps screaming about should come from. One other thing is that pretty much everyone works been at it for ten hours myself today so you can stop bringing it up and if you are going to be so easily offended you should maybe try and be a little less offensive.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:35 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1565

    Many people believed that invading was necessary, based on info coming from the Bush administration. Remember smoking guns in the form of mushroom clouds or mushroom clouds over New York. There were drawings of mobile nuclear facilities and underground bunkers. The inspectors were out and then they were in, yellowcake from Africa, ousted CIA agents. Much has been revealed since then and the only question to ask yourself is did Bush Cheney, Rumsfeld and Condi fool everyone including their unquestioning lockstep conservative followers or were the leaders of the greatest nation in the world really that stupid.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:23 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1889

    Hmmm, if memory serves me, there were LIBERAL DEMOCRATS that approved of invading Iraq. Now the poor libs "whistle past the cemetery" so they don't hear any of the truth. Unlike King Owe-Blame-O, Bush followed the Constutional constrants of going to war. No such thing happened when we sent American military and hardware into Libya. Obama violated his Constitutional authority, but, then he thinks that is his privilege as the KING of America.
    Obama has been president over 4 years and the fighting still goes on. When are the LIBERALS going to force him to own this war? Obama has helped the Muslim Brotherhood take over countries that AMERICANS help topple. Just the way he wants it. Next he will betray Israel, just the way he wants it.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:49 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    1.7 TRILLION DOLLARS spent to date. 4000 American lives lost. 50,000 wounded/maimed/lives changed forever. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's killed. A corrupt government installed in place of Saddam Hussein.

    600,000 claims for VA services unprocessed - the backlog is expected to reach 1 million by next year.

    22,000 vets each year die or commit suicide while waiting to receive services or disability benefits from the VA.

    And George Walker Bush won't apologize for the Iraq war while cowards like Cheney who never served a day in his life still defend the invasion.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 1:44 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 586

    Mr. Portal: Like the old saying goes, once a Marine always a Marine. Though I am a couple of years older I am still proud to say I served as a grunt and wear my Veteran`s cover with pride. MCRD-- Semper Fi

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:41 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Today is the 10th anniversary of the start of the Iraq "war," i.e., illegal and unnecessay invasion of a foreign power.

    1.7 TRILLION DOLLARS

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:34 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Sorry Ron, it does not wash. Your writing is all about perceived victimhood. I do not know what happened to you but you have taken the places in your soul that reserved for joy, gratitude, forgiveness, joy and love and appreciation for the gift of life and replaced them with resentment and anger. Do not worry for you are not alone. That is the way of most so-called conservatives in the Republican party

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 11:25 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1565

    I'm not sure we know what the sequestration will do to our economy and I do think Obama tried to get the repubs to cave. Of course if our economy does slow he will look pretty smart but I don't think that will happen. I think that both parties got cuts that were sensitive to their base and they are willing to let the other side take the blame.
    If I have a budget that includes a new car every 5 years and I change that to a new car every 10 years I have cut my budget by not spending as much as I'd planned.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:24 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    There is this thing called "projection".

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 11:15 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Telling of my experiences with liberals is being a crybaby? Actually, John , it was they that were crying as they ran away from me. Professional whiner? Where is my first check...isn't monetary payment due if I'm a professional? Victim?? Really John...is this the best you can do? I look at the liberal mindset in the same way as I do sin. I may hate the sin but I love the person that's ensnared by that sin. All who have served in the military are patriots...but all do not stay patriots in civilian life. John McCain is a great example. No one can deny his service to his country and the heroism he demonstrated suffering through the torture he endured. But as a politician he has been a disaster. So as a military man he is my hero but as a civilian not so. You say you're proud of taking the oath to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...do you know that these documents were to protect us from gov't. and those enemies both foreign and "domestic"? You wrote " the reason that we live in a society that even crybabies like you [ that would be me ] can whine and moan on how bad you got it" is exactly what I told you in my "diatribe" but worded differently. And as for veterans like myself giving veterans who know the score [that, of course, is you- our hero] and are proud of your service a bad name...let me just say this. No matter how wrong you may be I would never stoop to calling a fellow veteran in terms as you describe me out of respect for your service which is the difference between the liberal and the conservative. One has respect for others and the other can only project themselves in other people. I've been up since 3pm yesterday and worked all night and I've got to get up and do it again at 3pm today. I will go to bed and talk to you tomorrow...bye,bye.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 11:08 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Mr Lucas, excellent support of Mr. Portal's pos, I commend yout.
    "Liberals are all lovey dovey as long as they think you agree with them but as soon as they realize you don't they are the most intolerant and hateful amongst us who try to intimidate, threaten, marginalize and criminalize any thought or idea that doesn't match theirs."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:58 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "And when I decide to draw Social Security it is something I have had deducted from my pay for almost 50 years. How many losers get SS benefits and haven't contributed a dime or precious little more?"

    These two sentences pretty much sum up everthing that Mr. Portal doesn't know about Social Security.

    First, SS retirement benefits do not get paid to anyone who has not contributed to SS unless they are a non-working, i.e., never had a job outside the home, surviving spouse. Many of THESE "losers" ARE collecting SS retirement benefits after the deaths of their husbands or wives.

    Second, if you lived for another 30 years after you begin to collect SS at age 66, you would collect at least 10 times the amount that you contributed in SS taxes. That is why SS is called the Federal INSURANCE Contribution Act - you are buying insurance - not paying into a pension fund.

    But since the median age at which most men die is around 72-75, you might ONLY get back what you paid in for the past 50 years.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:42 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Here is some of the Bush administrations ridiculous spending programs

    200 billion giveaway to the drug companies with medicare part d
    2 trillion dollars for our wonderful adventure in Iraq

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:33 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    How much money you want to bet Joe? How about putting your money where your mouth is?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:32 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


    This was in answer to Ron at the bottom of the page. I cannot tell you how tired of veterans like Ron. It is an honor to serve and defend the Constitution of the United States. The reason it is an honor is that all of us in this county can benefit from those documents. My family has served in every war since the revolution and on both sides in the Civil War. It is what is expected of us if we want the experiment in democracy to continue. Professional whiners like Ron play victim because they did what patriots do. It is not a duty it i an honor and should be something we should be QUIETLY proud of.


    interesting diatribe Ron. I especially like this part:

    but as soon as they realize you don't they are the most intolerant and hateful amongst us who try to intimidate, threaten, marginalize and criminalize any thought or idea that doesn't match theirs.
    You are talking about yourself

    As to Vietnam. I too was there. I was there during Tet 68 and personally witnessed what our firepower could do not only to VC and NVA but also to innocent civilians of all ages and sexes. Those enemy you were attacking were in their country and a short time later you came back to our country. Vietnam like Iraq was a foreign policy disaster and war crime. One by Democrats and one by Republicans. I was and will always be proud of serving in the US Army. I am proud to take an oath to the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They are certainly worth putting ones life on the line and dying for if necessary. I am not proud of serving in Vietnam and if I had it to do again I would not. What really gets me about crybabies like you who do nothing but whine about how they were treated and glory in their victimhood is that you cannot get the underlying truth. People like us who are willing to put our lives on the line is the reason that protestors are able to protest. It is the reason that we live in a society that even crybabies like you can whine and moan on how bad you got it. It is crybaby Veterans like you who give veterans who know the score and quietly are proud of their service a bad name

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 10:25 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Here are a few of the Obama administration ridiculous spending programs:
    $571 million — more than half-a-billion dollars — diverted from building roads and infrastructure to plant flowers on the roadsides;
    $823,000 to teach South African men how to wash their genitals after sex.
    $700,000 for New Hampshire researchers to examine “greenhouse gas emission from organic dairies,” which are cause by “cow burps, among other things”
    $615,000 for the University of California-Santa Cruz to digitize Grateful Dead memorabilia.
    And my personal favorite:
    $2.6 million paid to the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAA), a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to train Chinese prostitutes to drink responsibly on the job.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:21 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Rom you lie and misrepresent the truth. What you like to do is boggle down the argument. You said we gave tanks and jets to the Muslim Brotherhood. We gave them to the Egyptian government which the president is member of that party. It is not the same thing and is a lie. It is that sort of thing that permeates your writing

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:13 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I think it is hard to have gratitude for the beauty of life and all the gifts we are give when one is a professional victim. That is the difference between you and I. Ron. I have worked hard all of my life but I am happy and have joy because of the knowledge of all that I have been given. You spend your time in resentment and anger. How is that working out?

    PS sorry meant that here. I do not talk to andrew

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:12 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1889

    Hogwash, LIBERAL propaganda.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:12 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I think it is hard to have gratitude for the beauty of life and all the gifts we are give when one is a professional victim. That is the difference between you and I. Ron. I have worked hard all of my life but I am happy and have joy because of the knowledge of all that I have been given. You spend your time in resentment and anger. How is that working out?

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 10:03 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Reagan said..it isn't that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so. I answered Eric with facts...and your reply is????

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:56 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    interesting diatribe Ron. I especially like this part:

    but as soon as they realize you don't they are the most intolerant and hateful amongst us who try to intimidate, threaten, marginalize and criminalize any thought or idea that doesn't match theirs.

    You are talking about yourself

    As to Vietnam. I too was there. I was there during Tet 68 and personally witnessed what our firepower could do not only to VC and NVA but also to innocent civilians of all ages and sexes. Those enemy you were attacking were in their country and a short time later you came back to our country. Vietnam like Iraq was a foreign policy disaster and war crime. One by Democrats and one by Republicans. I was and will always be proud of serving in the US Army. I am proud to take an oath to the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They are certainly worth putting ones life on the line and dying for if necessary. I am not proud of serving in Vietnam and if I had it to do again I would not. What really gets me about crybabies like you who do nothing but whine about how they were treated and glory in their victimhood is that you cannot get the underlying truth. People like us who are willing to put our lives on the line is the reason that protestors are able to protest. It is the reason that we live in a society that even crybabies like you can whine and moan on how bad you got it. It is crybaby Veterans like you who give veterans who know the score and quietly are proud of their service a bad name

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 9:54 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Tuition assistance is an EARNED BENEFIT from the military which is constitutional. Giving anything to illegal immigrants other than transport back to their country of origin is not constitutional and illogical. I get nothing from the gov't. I earn my living working 70 hour weeks. I'm 65 and still weigh 225 and at 6'3"...the same as I was in the Marines. And when I decide to draw Social Security it is something I have had deducted from my pay for almost 50 years. How many losers get SS benefits and haven't contributed a dime or precious little more? When I turn 66 next year I will draw SS on top of my pay at work. Since the gov't has taken so much from me it's about time I got some of it back.

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 9:37 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    I agree with you Eric..I was only using the 2% number to illustrate the gov't can re-institute the raise to the original figure but claims that same number of 2% cut in spending would be like the end of the world as we know it. Do you agree with Obama's methods of trying to scare people into agreeing to have more taxes put upon us and if we don't this or that terrible thing will happen to us? I feel it's like extortion and petty...like Chicago politics is like. And, as we all know, this is a cut in the increase of spending...not an actual cut. Gov't is getting more money this year than last.

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 9:12 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Must of struck a nerve, Mr. Lucas. When I came back from VietNam our plane was the first to come into SanDiego straight from the war. Usually returning Marines were processed at El Toro or Travis airbases. Because of this they had news people with their cameras reporting on the occasion. We were told of this as we were landing and ordered to stay in line as we disembarked and go straight into the airport. This is when planes disembarked on the tarmac. As I was going out the door of the plane and down the steps I heard a large crowd that was behind a chain link fence to the left of us. We would pass them to our right to get into the terminal. At first I thought they were cheering our return. Only a few days before I was with my platoon attacking a tree line full of the enemy where some Marines had been badly wounded...that on top of many other actions I had been in...it was gratifying to hear that we were being welcomed so warmly. But as I got closer to this crowd I started hearing some of the grossest and filthiest language from both women and men calling us everything in the book with faces full of rage and utterly unbalanced. I can still see their eyes of pure hatred...it was like I walked into an insane asylum. But what I remember even more vividly was all the spit they were throwing at us was hitting the chain link fence and it was dripping off of the fence..they were totally unbalanced and like caged animals. This was my first introduction to the most tolerant amongst us...the liberal. In the coming years I had many run ins with liberals and in every instance I was outnumbered. Seems you people run in packs when you attack someone who is not like minded to you. Especially the liberal animal you call the "peace activist". There was NOTHING PEACEFUL about this particular animal...in fact, I've never met a more violent and hateful example of the liberal species. None could take a punch though and they were easily dispatched. So you can call me a right winger telling half truths and out and out lies and viciously attacking people [all without specific examples] all you want because I not only fought for good hard working and respectful Americans but I also fought for the poor souls on the other side of rational thought that spread their poison of wealth redistribution and other tenets of socialism and communism and un-Americanism. Look what almost 100 years of progressive-ism has done to the greatest nation in world history. Liberals are all lovey dovey as long as they think you agree with them but as soon as they realize you don't they are the most intolerant and hateful amongst us who try to intimidate, threaten, marginalize and criminalize any thought or idea that doesn't match theirs. My father was a decorated Marine of WW2 and Korea and my step-dad fought in Korea and VietNam and both, when talking of their fallen comrades, cried in front of me because they felt they had fought for nothing. The gov'ts they fought against were the same kind of gov't that America was becoming. That's why I rail against this gov't and my dissatisfaction is founded on the principles of the Constitution. And if I misquote or mis-state any of it YOU TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHERE I'VE GONE WRONG AND NOT GIVE ME THESE BLANKET ACCUSATIONS.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:50 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1565

    We did spend 1.5 mill on a study to determine if gender preference has something to do with obesity. I know it’s off topic but when I looked that up I ran across a story were a guy bought the house across the street from westboro baptist church and painted it rainbow like the gay pride flag. Now that's funny.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:48 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Mr. Lucas,
    President Pinnocchio said our taxes would not increase. He specifically said, "Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    At 8:09 am on Wed, Feb 27, 2013 Mr. Barrow said, "the payroll tax holiday ended but that is not really an increase."

    As Mr. Portal stated in his letter, "Truly, the liberal mind is where logic goes to die!"
    [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:40 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1565

    Isn't asking for tuition assistance from the government and complaining about government spending hypocritical. The truth of the matter is is that everyone gets government assistance in one way or another and everyone wants less government spending they just don't want their assistance taken away.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:16 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Eric, facts only confuse Ron

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:14 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Not to mention the 20 billion dollars the Republicans have given the drug companies every year because they made it the law that Medicare cannot negotiate prices with them. But that does not matter, it is only 200 billion dollars in the last ten years. You right wing types never seem to mention that kind of stuff. I wonder why?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:54 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1565

    The Payroll Tax is not a new tax it was the end of a temporary decrease that began in 2011 and back when it was implemented the right screamed that we were robbing Social Security to pay for stimulus spending. Fox news CNN Money and many others complained in 2011 that this would hurt SS. Now that this temporary tax break has ended the right wants to call it an increase and blame Obama, if Ron wants to blame Obama blame him for getting you a tax break for the last two years.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:51 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1889

    We have plenty of money to for the Feds to finance a Harvard affiliated hospital to conduct a $1.5 Million resarch on why most lesbians are obsese.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:16 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I always appreciate Mr Portals contributions to the right wing roundup. His writings, a combination of half truths, out and out lies and vicious personal attacks, are very representative of right wing Conservative Republican "thought" . If one wants reasons never to vote for a Republican all one has to do is read Mr Portal's letters.

     

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