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Will it help to put President Obama's birth certificate on billboards?

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Posted: Wednesday, March 9, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 6:19 am, Wed Mar 9, 2011.

This is in response to Dennis Vetica's letter to the editor of Feb. 26. He is expressing doubts that President Obama was born in the U.S.

Here are just a few of many sources on the Internet that will give you proof of that he was born in Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961, with pictures of the original birth certificate: www.factcheck.org, www.politifact.com, www.wikipedia.org and www.snopes.com. I could go on and on.

Do we need his birth certificate on every billboard? As a matter of fact, it is easier to find Obama's birth certificate then it is to find Bill Clinton's or G.W. Bush's birth certificates.

Heinz Lehrach

Lodi

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20 comments:

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:24 pm on Sat, Mar 12, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Once again, Mr. Maple, with all of his experience in "education," cannot distinguish between a noun and an adjective.

    And I was speaking of the bloggers here, not ultra left-wingers like Ms. Garafalo. (Jackson, Sharpton? - didn't know that believing in Civil Rights made one a leftist - I thought that was just common sense, unless one thinks like Mr. Maple - a world where only SOME people get to say who's equal and who's not).

     
  • Gary Musto posted at 4:18 pm on Fri, Mar 11, 2011.

    Gary Musto Posts: 506

    Steve couldn't help himself again, just had to get in another jab at Palin. Even with all the goings on in Wisconsin and Libya, Sarah Palin still weighs heavily on his mind.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 3:15 pm on Fri, Mar 11, 2011.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    ms bobin: Do we have to go over this name calling AGAIN??? Are you really trying to say that the leftist like garaffalo, jackson, sharpton and others ad nauseam NEVER call someone a name??? STOP!!!! Don't forget that saying someone is ignorant is calling the a name. Dumb..s right? Next polyp...you are going to invoke the rath(er) of God? Shame on you! He might not like his name used here.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:30 pm on Thu, Mar 10, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Marconi sounds like a real sweetheart, right wing name-caller. Can't do anything else when they can't get their way.

    I don't know about you birthers out there, but when I request a copy of my kids' birth certificates all I get is a "certified" copy from San Joaquin County - names, date, place -no signatures, just like the one they "produce" for Obama.

    My own birth certificate is a dark, almost unreadable microfilm (or whatever medium they used in the dark ages) image of the original certificate. I don't even know if the original even exists anywhere.

    It is too bad that there are so many ignorant people in this country who are so easily convinced that this vast conspiracy to "pretend" that Obama is a US Citizen exists. Just how many people do you all suppose are in on this?

    The sadder part is that people in positions of power like Huckabee and Gingrich repeat this nonsense in an effort to refuel the discussion. Huckabee, especially, as a man of God, should be ashamed.

     
  • Bob Marconi posted at 11:26 am on Thu, Mar 10, 2011.

    Bob Marconi Posts: 38

    For all you liberal drones out there (you know who you are) we don't want it on billboards, we just want the official certificate produced-not this bogus form that's bandied about.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 9:40 am on Thu, Mar 10, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1990

    There aren't enough billboards out there for that.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:36 am on Thu, Mar 10, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2350

    Actually Mr. Taves our best recourse regarding our leaders disappointing us is to simply vote them out of office. Of course, as citizens it is our responsibility to do this - how many eligible voters actually take the time to vote? We have this right, yet so few fail to take advantage of it. And then they whine because they feel so disappointed.

     
  • stan taves posted at 8:59 am on Thu, Mar 10, 2011.

    Stan Taves Posts: 313

    Our "leaders" have disappointed us for decades haven't they? Maybe inept leadership should be pasted on every "billboard".

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 7:20 am on Thu, Mar 10, 2011.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Put his birth certificate (Which one?) on a billboard??

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:01 pm on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2350

    I haven't altered my stance regarding the importance of any person’s character when it comes to leadership. How one behaves personally is usually a clear indication as to how they'll act if given the privilege to have authority over others. Still, I fully understand that no human is perfect. As such, when it comes to casting my vote (which I will never abdicate), sometimes I've been forced to select from nominees that would have me choosing the lesser of two evils.

    The funny thing about Obama was that I actually believed that Hillary Clinton was worse than he. I went so far as to change my politically affiliation for the 2008 primary season in order to vote against Clinton in favor of Obama. Clearly I was wrong; something that I may not be comfortable admitting, but freely do so when I realize it to be true. However, I will not make the same mistake in 2012. I plan to actively participate in the upcoming presidential election to do my part to ensure that Obama is a one-term president.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:51 pm on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I'm not surprised that Mr. Kinderman adheres to the "questionable people" stance. There is little else in Obama's background or associations to paint him as a radical as Mr. Kinderman suggests.

    I wonder what his (Mr. Kinderman's) opinion was of George W. Bush's "questionable" associations with drugs, alcohol, partying, drunk driving, and living the life of a near-do-well scion of a wealthy family and then being cleaned-up and groomed (a la the Kennedys) to follow in Daddy's footsteps, propped up by Karl Rove's machinations and Dick Cheney's puppeteer skills.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:42 pm on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Paglia - I agree with you regarding the cheating - unfortunately, the number of presidents who have been unfaithful - both Democrat and Republican - either before, during, or after being in office - are many.

    The only difference between Clinton and Gingrich is that Clinton "loved them and left them," and basicially admitted he had a problem with keeping it in his pants, while Gringrich not only betrayed his marriage vows, but dumped the old wives for the new, younger wives, and is now claiming "patriotism" as his motive.!!!????

    Mr. Kinderman is correct in saying he has little "chance at all of winning the Republican nomination."

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 2:36 pm on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2299

    Birtherbaggerpalintitis is a well documented mental disorder. Symptoms may include drooling, bed wetting, uncontrollable verbal flatulence and a complete break with reality.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:54 am on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2350

    Yes, absolutely - better vetting in ALL aspects of these presidential wannabe’s lives, personal and professional. I doubt Gingrich has any chance at all of winning the Republican nomination for many reasons including how he's conducted himself over his lifetime.

    However, as so many were pointing to Mr. Obama's inexperience and his associations with questionable people during his meteoric rise to the top, these things were dismissed by his supporters as not at all necessary to consider. Hopefully we've learned our lessons well and will apply them during the upcoming election of 2012. Mr. Obama has a lot to answer for.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:21 am on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1990

    Exactly, because the vast right wing conspiracy that trapped Clinton is a much better excuse for being unfaithful.

    Just so we are clear, I think ANY politician that can't keep their promises to their spouse can't be trusted to keep their promises to the American people and should be disqualified from representing them.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:59 am on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Better vetting will take place? Does that include Newt Gingrich telling Christian Broadcasting that the reason he cheated on his wives was that his "passion" and "patriotism" put so much pressure on him that he was compelled to be unfaithful.

    More reason to look at Gingrich than to explore this birth certificate issue.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:50 am on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2350

    Oops! I erroneously referred to "three" websites provided by Mr. Lehrach yet just noticed that there are four. I apologize for the mistake.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:49 am on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2350

    I've made it a relatively firm policy to not follow the links that people supply in their articles, columns, letters to the editor or on forums such as this. But just for fun I decided to navigate to the first one of three provided by Mr. Lehrach. As it only took me to the home page of fastcheck.org, it was then up to me to find the proof that he believed would resolve this issue once and for all. So naturally I searched for "Obama's birth certificate." Lo and behold there was a plethora of choices and naturally I went for the very first one. As I scrolled through I found precisely what I had expected: an "abstract" of a birth certificate.

    Now, as I agree with Mr. Paglia that this is a non-issue especially so far into Obama's presidency, my contention has always been regarding the "proof" of his birth was that the actual and original birth certificate was never provided.

    Am I going to visit the other websites graciously provided by the author? Obviously not, but I do care that someone might be occupying the White House who should never have been permitted to visit any area other than that afforded to youngsters on their school trips to D.C. But this matter should have been resolved long before the conventions were held in 2008. Just as Al Gore actually won the election with a majority of the popular vote yet will never be the President of the United States, Mr. Obama will be our president until hopefully just January of 2013.

    I expect better vetting will take place in future presidential elections but not just about the two Constitutional qualifications to be president, but about every other aspect of the man or woman who desires to live in the White House.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:43 am on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    The "birth certificate" that Obeyme released can be duplicated by a grade school computer user. Proves nothing. Long form, signed by doctor and officials is the ONLY one we should settle for. Just like I had to produce for military service and passport.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 6:43 am on Wed, Mar 9, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1990

    Yes, it would help. Because everything on a billboard is the absolute truth. After all look at all those world is going to end billboards out there. They would never lie.

    Relax, I'm just making fun here.

    I for one think the Birth Certificate issue is a non-issue. But for a little comparison here, I think the Birth certificate issue is to Obama what WMD were to Bush. Everyone knew Iraq had them, and had used them (gassing thousands is a WMD), just never found them so did they exist?

     

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