Where are the people rescued from Benghazi?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:00 am
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Updated: 6:30 am, Wed Jan 9, 2013.
Where are the people rescued from Benghazi?
Here are a few simple questions about the people who were rescued by the Navy SEALs in Benghazi. You know, the ones that the young men lost their lives saving?
Where are they? Why have they never been interviewed or even been seen? Why is the U.S. State Department hiding them? Why won't they release their names?
This country had better wake up. We are being lead down the proverbial Primrose Lane by a bunch of criminals. I thought this group of tin-pennies were supposed to be transparent and open — yeah, right!
Pat Maple
Galt
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Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:00 am.
Updated: 6:30 am.
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daniel hutchins posted at 12:58 am on Wed, Jan 16, 2013.
All,
The constitution is a trust document which establishes that the so-called "government" officials are servants of the people. They are trustees, and we are the beneficiaries.
Today, government has reversed the relationship (since the 14th amendment). They think that we the people are the trustees who have fiduciary responsibilities to serve the "government" officials.
daniel hutchins posted at 12:54 am on Wed, Jan 16, 2013.
Why?
Because they have no interest in serving the people.
They believe that the people serve them.
Patrick W Maple posted at 7:16 pm on Tue, Jan 15, 2013.
Daniel: It was a safe house. The fact remains...lies, lies, lies and more lies. A five year old can see through THESE lies (transparent opaqueness)...even me. For me...these clowns have spit on every American soldier's grave and every survivors wounds. NOW he wants to have a traitor as our Sec of State? Wow.
Patrick W Maple posted at 7:12 pm on Tue, Jan 15, 2013.
Okay...let's say it was a clandestine operation (watched on satellite)....so was Blackhawk, Eagle Claw, Ben Laden (watched on satellite)(and then blabbed about to the liberal media just before an election), Syria, Egypt, Saddam Hussein and many other suspect happenings. Now, it is over and the questions remain...Who, what, where, when, how and WHY? What purpose did it serve and why did it fail? Why was it blamed on a video? How do you expect the troops to feel confident that someone has their back? WHY all of the lieing...by so MANY people.
In matters of this magnitude politicians do two things...lie...and then lie some more.
In this case...they have the best ones out front BO and HC...with Billy Bob at their back...can you say Lewinski?
Eric Barrow posted at 3:19 pm on Tue, Jan 15, 2013.
I must agree with Daniel, Benghazi was a covert CIA operation and survivors would have been operatives. I doubt they are going to disclose their identity.
daniel hutchins posted at 7:58 pm on Mon, Jan 14, 2013.
Pat,
Hillary Clinton was in hot water because of this.
I heard that she sought legal advice from her husband who recommended that she resign (why this would leak out, I do not know), and I also heard that Hillary sought official legal defense from the US government on her behalf while acting in her official capacity, and the legal defensive support was denied to her.
Not a surprise to me when she resigned.
daniel hutchins posted at 7:55 pm on Mon, Jan 14, 2013.
Pat,
Otherwise, I agree that the supposedly rescued survivors are missing in action.
If they be CIA, that would answer why they are missing.
If not CIA, they could have been created in fiction so that they could say that someone was rescued.
daniel hutchins posted at 7:49 pm on Mon, Jan 14, 2013.
Pat,
I'm afraid that there really was an attack at Benghazi, but it was not an embassy. It was a CIA safe house.
From your letter, I wasn't sure if you were aware of that.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:41 am on Sun, Jan 13, 2013.
TW Joking aside I do have to commend you for diligence and the effort you made to produce this post. Thanks the informatin will I'm sure prove elightening.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:34 am on Sun, Jan 13, 2013.
Oh, another homework assignment and I was really hoping you'ld go for the sense of humor option. Now I have chores to do (I am married so I will get to this as soon as I can).
Andrew Liebich posted at 7:58 am on Sun, Jan 13, 2013.
Mr. Heuer wants "bonified beyond a shadow of a doubt proof" [rolleyes]
No problem Mr. Heuer. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gajqRgjDWax0oBhQk8MU7HX8BwTQ?docId=CNG.8b32ad461489ab05113fc900b5f26049.941
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2012/0217/Top-US-official-Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq-joining-fight-against-Syria-s-Assad
http://world.time.com/2012/07/26/time-exclusive-meet-the-islamist-militants-fighting-alongside-syrias-rebels/?iid=gs-main-lede
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/world/middleeast/al-qaeda-insinuating-its-way-into-syrias-conflict.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG24Ak02.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443343704577551281530782466.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1233067--al-qaeda-is-seeking-to-manipulate-tensions-in-the-middle-east-to-its-own-advantage-warn-experts
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/05/10/Al-Qaeda-Ladies-Choir-Struts-Its-Stuff-in-Rebel-Syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9396256/Al-Qaeda-tries-to-carve-out-a-war-for-itself-in-Syria.html
Denial may offer comforts you find appealing but in the end it’s still denial.
The fact of the matter is, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) currently arming, funding, and commanding entire brigades of the so-called “Free Syrian Army” (FSA), is designated an Al Qaeda affiliate by the United Nations pursuant to resolutions 1267 (1999) and 1989(2011)
http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/NSQE01101E.shtml
in addition to being listed by both the US State Department
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm
and the UK Home Office (page 5, .pdf)
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm
as a foreign terrorist organization and a proscribed terrorist organization respectively.
Let me dumb it down for you...
This means that the United States, the UK and NATO are knowingly and willfully funding, arming, and politically backing designated affiliates of Al Qaeda contrary not only to US and British anti-terror legislation, but contrary to numerous UN resolutions as well.
http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/resolutions.shtml
So what does it all mean? Well, to put it simply… by funding, arming, and coordinating acts of violence with LIFG fighters, NATO, and in particular, France, England, and the United States, are guilty of violating both their own respective anti-terrorism legislation, as well as international provisions against terrorism.
Turn off your TV and think!
[sleeping]
Patrick W Maple posted at 6:16 pm on Sat, Jan 12, 2013.
Alonso and Sancho? Are not... n'es pas. NOT Nes pa...is that a relative? Latin perhaps? Maybe quixotically misspelled or trenched? As the second volume...deemed vulgar by standards of then not now? Literature in a murder investigation... how Tavis.
Patrick W Maple posted at 5:55 pm on Sat, Jan 12, 2013.
mrzero: That is Staff Sergeant...Nuclear Weapons Assembly Master. There are millions of people asking the same questions I am...that hardly makes me a lone crusader. Your comment implies that no one cares...an additional callous and disparaging remark. Would you say the same thing to the young man's father? I doubt it.
How about we quit looking for our MIAs too?
A thorough investigation or just another cover-up...hmmm...can you say Billy Bob? How about Nixon? For me the answers are simple...they are called the truth.
Again...where are the survivors? Why are they not talking? Who are they? What happened that no help was sent? When and how did it go down? Barney Fife anyone?
Thomas Heuer posted at 2:10 pm on Sat, Jan 12, 2013.
Stand down there private no one is disparaging anyone except maybe the letter writers Don Quixotic efforts to find easy answers to an unfortunate episode in order to sound like he is a lone determined crusader in a sea of indifference. The answers are difficult when we all agree there was a tragedy and as we all wait we understand the answers are being thouroghly investigated because it is well known there are those who don't want to improve on a bad outcome in the future. They are just waiting for an opportunity to only find blame against political foes. Nes Pa
Patrick W Maple posted at 5:26 am on Sat, Jan 12, 2013.
AND NO MS BOBIN...there are NO interviews (save one of the: 30 survivos asking why he isn't being questioned about the attack) of the survivors. PLEASE POST YOUR SOURCES HERE!
Thomas Heuer posted at 10:04 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
Andrew you eitherr need to develop a sense of humor or come up with some bonified beyond a shadow of a doubt proof.
Andrew Liebich posted at 9:03 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
One doesn't need YouTube or Alex to know the Obama Administration is arming and funding Al Qaeda and thus covering up what happened in Benghazi.
[sleeping]
Thomas Heuer posted at 8:19 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
[thumbup]
Right! YouTube is juist the thing to WAKE UP conspiracy theorists from their "self perpetuating corporate media induced slumber ." Coffee just won't do the trick.
Thomas Heuer posted at 8:12 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
[thumbup]
The title of this "LTE is "Where are the people rescued from Benghazi?" Now we have the answer. They have been rescued from Pat Maple.
You won't find them anywhere near here.
BTW Master Kong? I thought he was king not master
Walter Chang posted at 3:55 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
"Obviously several of the posters here didn't take his advice"
Patty, would that be from the "do as I say (quote) and not as I do" school of advice??
[wink]
Walter Chang posted at 3:55 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
"answer"
Andy, why do you help our inquisitive friend out...
Surely you have a YouTube or Alex Jones link handy??
[beam]
Joe Baxter posted at 3:10 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
Again, remarks from you that are not even worth answering. Grow up.
Patrick W Maple posted at 2:34 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
Andrew: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain
Obviously several of the posters here didn't take his advice.
Andrew Liebich posted at 10:29 am on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
Mr. Maple,
Consider the fact that brain dead zombies who choose to remain in a self perpetuating corporate media induced slumber aren't ever going to answer your important question.
They actually believe the propaganda spewing from their televisions... [rolleyes]
Andrew Liebich posted at 10:08 am on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
Thanks to me you get e-mails? Huh? [huh]
Walter Chang posted at 8:48 am on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.
“Have you found my answers yet?”
Socratic questioning run amok…
Pat, go to Delphi and seek out the oracle.
He will set you straight!!!
[wink]
Patrick W Maple posted at 8:05 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
Yes..very good for fighting the effects of Alzheimer's and brain mis-functions. East Indian dishes as well. Have you found my answers yet?
Walter Chang posted at 4:56 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
"turmeric"
Thanks Pat, I'm good.
I eat curry dishes and Thai food all the time.
Very beneficial.
How about you?
Patrick W Maple posted at 4:31 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
wc: are you ms bobins no answer shirt-tail cousin? You seem only to snipe at the messengers...so what is your message? Blame Bush and Cheney?? turmeric...you need turmeric!!!
Patrick W Maple posted at 4:15 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
Joe: About the same background except my brothers and I started out with shotguns. To me it is like a river or pond...if you don't know how to swim, stay out of them, if you do know how to swim...respect the water it is a lot more powerful than you. It takes experience to use a gun...reading a book won't teach you it nor will it teach you how to swim...you have to experience it AND have someone there who CAN swim to pull your but out if you start to drown. It was good your uncle was around to teach you too.
Walter Chang posted at 4:06 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
Pat, call Dick Cheney.
From him...
I'm sure you get the names of the CIA agents that were rescued!!
[beam]
Joe Baxter posted at 3:44 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
Pat: I was given a .22 rifle for Christmas when I was 8 years old. My uncle gave it to me and taught me gun safety and how to shoot and WHAT to shoot. I started with the Jr. NRA and shot competetion all through high school, earning numerous citations and medals for marksmanship. I shot skeet on a competitive basis and taught hunter safety courses so people could get their hunting licenses. I never met a legal gun owner that did not have respect for firearms. No amount of laws or bans will eradicate the morons who perpetrate the horrendous acts that the liberal press delights in advertising in their headlines. Criminal gangs, both foreign and domestic, are responsible for most of the firearm deaths. No laws will stop outlaws.
Patrick W Maple posted at 12:39 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
AGAIN: Who can tell me where the rescued/victims/pawns of Benghazi are???
Patrick W Maple posted at 12:38 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
mrh: Sniping should be left to the military experts...you aren't capable.
Joe: I don't own a gun...probably won't...don't feel the need to. BUT, if I do want to own, I don't want a liberal politician telling me what I can or can't own. Since we pay for THEIR protection, we should at least be able to purchase ours.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:58 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
How do you evaluate as true or false "1776 will rise again."
The man (Jones) is a raving lunatic. Thnks to you I get his emails.
Now we can add a beligerant idiot Larry Pratt to the list of goof balls.
These guys learned at an early age if they fold their arms or lie on the floor kicking and screaming when their mother told them to clean their room she might give up and go away. Which has worked up to now. To ignore a problem won't make it go away. The shootings keep happening like bombings in Israel. People are fed up and now they are kicking and screaming to have something done. Will guns be taken away? Probably not. Will the second amendment be taken away? Probably not. Though the second amendment is not clear how it is relevant in the 21st century. How does "militia" make sense today? Supreme court only offered limited guidance. There are things to discuss sensibly to deal with the killing problem while not necessarily saying gun ownership is the problem.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:21 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
Let me guess, he will have to pry your guns from your cold dead hands.
You've still got those old B grade westerns don't you.
Andrew Liebich posted at 8:03 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
Did Alex say anything that was false?[sleeping]
As Mr. Maple stated, "This country had better wake up."
Joe Baxter posted at 5:32 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
If a conservative doesn't like guns, they simply don't own one, When LIBERALS don't like guns, they don't want anyone to own one. I don't know how many years I have left on this planet, but I will be a gun owner as long as I am alive. If Obama thinks he is going to steamroll a gun ban and gut the 2nd amendment, he is iin for a surprise.
Patrick W Maple posted at 5:27 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
The questions remain: As any good journalist knows: Who are they? Where are they? What happened? Why are they nor talking? When will we get the complete story? How did they survive
Where are Cronkite, Bernstein and Rather when...never mind they would just lie too.
The talking heads who weren't there have given their stories...mostly lies and nonsensical carp...why is the FIRST HAND knowledge being kept from the public and by whom? Curiosity may have killed the cat...but knowing one's enemy can prevent that.
Thomas Heuer posted at 11:43 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Joe note my carefully crafted words. I did not say gun owners I said "gun crazed fanatics " like Alex Jones who can't even carry on a normal conversation without acting like an addict in withdrawals. The man is a lunatic. There are responsible gun owners who are rational about the issue.
Andrew Liebich posted at 11:27 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Mr. Maple,
Unfortunately, with the probable exception of Mr. Baxter, most of these these individuals can only regurgitate the Benghazi propaganda is spewing from their television.
[sleeping]
Andrew Liebich posted at 11:20 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
[thumbup][lol]
Patrick W Maple posted at 8:40 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
tom...nth...zero: Whomever... I fired every hand held, shoulder fired, pistol fired, missile fired, lanyard fired, piece of equipment United States Army owned during my military service to this country. Yet, I don't own a gun or a heroin needle. What I DO own is the RIGHT to purchase, rent, borrow and use a gun(s) for my protection or necessities.
Joe Baxter posted at 7:22 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Comparing gun owners to heroin addicts is as absurd as comparing liberals to rational thinking people.
Thomas Heuer posted at 7:10 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Gee Joe. How so?
Joe Baxter posted at 6:32 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Not too hard to figure out who is really out of touch with reality here. Tom your post is pure liberal hogwash.
Joe Baxter posted at 6:30 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
HOGWASH
Thomas Heuer posted at 6:11 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Bengazi-itis, Bengazi-alergy, real sick as sick as "await with bated breath." to get even more dirt to support a view of the world as a glass half empty. It takes a lot of scandal and tragedy to support a pesimistic outlook allowing them to relentlessly complain how terrible things are.
Walter Chang posted at 5:01 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
[sleeping][yawn][sleeping]
ZZZZZZzzzzzz......
Patrick W Maple posted at 3:19 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
mrenlightened one: Do you know where they are? Enlighten us.
Patrick W Maple posted at 3:18 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Transparency oh enlightened one. This is not a dead horse to any veteran or future veteran who has or will sign their life away to defend this country. This dead horse you speak of has a lot of riders.
msb: I seem to remember you once telling all of us that we watch too much tv and read too much on the internet and fail to understand what the newspapers are reporting. Only you msb can be right...never wrong...the only truth. What a crock!
Patrick W Maple posted at 1:59 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
msb: You got the idea as did mra...I simply combined the two...read the lyrics to the song and see what you find. ms clinton seems to be on a "holiday" as is BO and his entire "staff". Hmmm...why are they changing all of the important players in this mess?
Again msb...you obfuscate and forward no support nor a challenge to the question. You have no answers and no questions...sad and silly.
Walter Chang posted at 1:52 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Pat…
Why do you continue to beat a dead horse????
[huh]
Joanne Bobin posted at 12:48 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
More from those who don't watch the news, read a newspaper, or check the Internet.
I think they should have wrenched Hillary Clinton out of her hospital bed and forced her to march up Capitol Hill to testify regardless of whether she REALLY had a blood clot in her brain or not. After all, Sean Hannity, Charles Krauthammer, Lindsay Graham, John McCain and a whole host of FOX News stooges claimed she was faking it.
Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:13 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
And no word yet from our esteemed Secretary of State. Of course we've been assured that Mrs. Clinton will appear to answer questions regarding this very serious issue. I await with bated breath.
Thomas Heuer posted at 11:28 am on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Yes guns. Like heroin addicts gun crazed fanatics act like they need a steady fix of guns (and camouflage). It sucks the oxygen out of our news media air and little else can breathe. If you want gun sales to increase (like an economic stimulus) just talk about guns. Sales soar. There seems to be an irony here that people getting killed (Bengazi or other wise) is less important than being able to buy the weapons that kill people. And please enough with the NRA planted slogans "guns don't kill people.. Of course they do. Yeah yeah knives kill too. One thing at a time. Start with the most leathal means of killing like chemical and biological weapons, oh that isn't a problem? OK whats next? Guns? OK lets see what we can do to solve an obvious problem in THIS country. Do guns need to be outlawed completely? No not as long as we have gun nuts running around whom I'm afraid of more than any wacko theory of a government threat. Do we need to look at the second amenment? I think yes not to take it away but to see if we can make it clearer. Just what exacly are the malitia needs of the country. This has only inspired those "loose touch with reality" folks to dress in camouflage and pretend the government has come to take their guns away. So the government would leave them alone if they didn't have guns? I think we have our first movement towards a solution for these guys. I don't think the founding fathers were thinking we need to have a second amendment so the people can storm the capital and hold us at gun point. I don't think the founding fatherws had that much confidence in the people (hence the electorial college). I do know we didn't have much of a standing army (participation was low and desertion was high) so we relied a lot on citizen armies (malitia) to protect against foreign invasion (British) and native American threats. Of course we were concerned with keeping the slaves on the plantation as well. So theres much to talk about and we should get started. The economy needs the economic boost (gun sales) while the discussions take place.
Of course the letter writer is more concerned with the politics of Bengazi (conservative points) rather than the fact of people dying.
roy bitz posted at 10:09 am on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Either way---- primrose lane, magnolia lane, Pennsylvania avenue, whatever.
The question regarding the lack of feedback from survivors is fair. It has been four months with no word from surviviors of the attack and the issue seems to be slowly fading away. it seems nobody will be held accountable for this outrageous act of terrorism. Now it's all about gun control.
Mike Adams posted at 7:32 am on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Mr. Maple: This is not a personal attack. Just something about "Primrose Lane"
One of the big 3 (ABC,CBS, or NBC) had a short lived sitcom in the fall of 1970 called
"Primrose Lane". I think Bing Crosby was the star of the show. It featured Bing singing "Primrose Lane....Life's a melody on Primrose Lane.... (insert little music note symbols here so people know its a song).
Joanne Bobin posted at 6:46 am on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
I believe that is supposed to be the "primrose PATH," which is an idiom suggesting someone or some persons are living a life of luxury.
Perhaps you meant we are being "led up the garden path," an idiom denoting deception.
And perhaps the answers to the questions in this letter could easily be found by watching the news or Googling "attack on Benghazi.
A LTE was certainly unwarranted, unless the purpose was just to suggest silly conspiracy theories. Hmmmm.....