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Posted: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:00 am | Updated: 7:25 am, Sat Oct 30, 2010.

The illustrations portrayed by opponents of Proposition 19 are rife with fear. What is just as obvious is that they are also rife with inaccuracies.

One would only have to conclude, after reading the letters and columns of a particular lieutenant, that presentations of obnoxious advertisements for marijuana await us: "Reefer Madness down at Timmy's Pub!," or that we need fear our child's school bus driver were Proposition 19 to pass. What is never expressed is the reality of the situation; that none of the fears conveyed by opponents are substantiated.

If opponents seek to contemplate what Proposition 19 allows, they should examine the amendments to the health and safety code. Section 11300 allows for the possession, transfer, transportation or cultivation (subject to approval by owner of rental property) of marijuana for individuals 21-plus years of age. Limits on personal consumption are established: one cannot consume in public, while operating a vehicle of any kind or beforehand whereby consumption impairs ability, or in the presence of minors.

Section 11301 grants cities jurisdiction over commercial licensing for business' seeking to cultivate, process, or sell marijuana. Furthermore, cities have the authority to pass ordinances with the intent of reducing exposure of marijuana to minors including public displays. Businesses that cultivate or sell marijuana are prevented from hiring individuals under the age of consumption. Environmental and property values are addressed by the right of cities to control the land use and locale of businesses that produce marijuana. Finally, cities have the ability to resolve unaddressed concerns under subsection (m). Section 11304 maintains prohibitions on dangerous activities while under the influence, possessing marijuana on school grounds, and transporting marijuana across borders.

In the course of protecting individuals that legally consume marijuana from discrimination, an exception is maintained; that which protects an employer's right to address consumption that impairs the ability of the employee. To assert that Proposition 19 allows for: cultivation on rental property without approval, driving under the influence, or unlimited and unlicensed storage of marijuana without consequences, is to provide one of the most inaccurate expositions possible for a proposition's provisions. For shame Lieutenant Piombo.

Manuel Martinez

Acampo

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9 comments:

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:07 pm on Sun, Oct 31, 2010.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "Afterall, if they were picky, we wouldn't be treated to the comical blogs Joanne writes."

    I am so glad that I entertain you because your writing seems to portray a very needy and lonely persona. I'm only puzzled about your and a certain other person's attempts to have me eliminated from these blogs. I guess your statement is correct!!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:48 pm on Sun, Oct 31, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    anne Bobin posted at 9:22 pm...The LNS used to be very picky about what letters they printed.As you can tell by the number of seriously mentally ill people whose letters get published, they must not be as picky..

    Im thankful that LNS has become less picky as JB states. Afterall, if they were picky, we wouldn't be treated to the comical blogs Joanne writes.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:15 am on Sun, Oct 31, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    So for Mr. Baumbach, once again, to make a blanket statement that only hippies in SF want to return to the "Height (sic) Ashbury" days is not only ill-informed, it seems it is just a downright lie, too

    Again, Ms Bobin misquotes, misunderstands and mischaracterizes my statement... I said that the city council of San Francisco, that has its share of radical people, would like nothing better... If Ms Bobin thinks they are hippis, that is her conclusion, not mine.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:36 pm on Sat, Oct 30, 2010.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    I just finished reading an article in one of the most recent editions of Newsweek and was surprised to find out that Nancy Pelosi's Republican opponent this election season, John Dennis (never heard of him), supports Proposition 19. His campaign staffers even decorated posters at a recent rally with Rasta colors. Also, Barney Frank's opponent in MA is in favor of marijuana legalization as is (according to the article) 25% of the Republican party. The elderly (Republican/Catholic) parents of the originator of the prop, who are TEA Partiers, support their son's effort to get marijuana legalized because they have seen how it has helped his medical condition (he has been paralyzed for 20 years). Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Milton Friedman and (presumably before he died) William F. Buckley support, or have suggested they would support, legalization.

    So for Mr. Baumbach, once again, to make a blanket statement that only hippies in SF want to return to the "Height (sic) Ashbury" days is not only ill-informed, it seems it is just a downright lie, too. Not surprising considering the source.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:22 pm on Sat, Oct 30, 2010.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    The LNS used to be very picky about what letters they printed. Years ago, they would require a phone number (not sure if they still do this) and call to verify that the writer was a real person. Now I expect they have computer spyware that can check up on a writer's IP address. As you can tell by the number of seriously mentally ill people whose letters get published, they must not be as picky. This time of year every Tom and Harry (the language police did not allow me to use the name of the third person in this trio!) with an opinion wants in, so a week is not too long to wait.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 8:59 pm on Sat, Oct 30, 2010.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    Manuel, with a last name as yours, you're lucky the paper even prints your letters. Blog on, brother!

     
  • Manuel Martinez posted at 10:41 am on Sat, Oct 30, 2010.

    Manuel Martinez Posts: 641

    Thank you Doug. It is nice to see at least one positive commenter.

    Does the LNS post letters to the editor only on the weekends? Because I wrote this last Saturday.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 9:30 am on Sat, Oct 30, 2010.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    Why was Mr. Martinez's letter buried way back here in this website edition when it was the first letter to appear in the letters section of today's paper? Again, Sentinel, you pick and choose who is first on your pecking order here on this website? Need I say more?
    Mr. Martinez, this was a very well composed letter and your opinion are very close to my own on this issue and I just don't know why Mr. Piombo wouldn't have taken the same stand on those who are addicted to alcohol and yet are encouraged to drink even more by the indications of the overload of alcohol permits here in Lodi? Why now all of a sudden is there an outcry about legalizing marijuana? Marijuana stays in your system for a long time and a simple hair follicle test will show usage of it even 6 months later. There's no cleanup for hair follicle tests like there is for urine and I find most of those who oppose prop 19 fear for losing their jobs or not being able to pass a drug test. Do they think there are not police, firefighters, city council, management and good old boys that don't, or haven't smoked it in the past? It's easy to be a desk sergeant and write these articles without ever mentioning the devastating the addiction to alcohol, especially wine, is to many people and their family and social structures not only here in Lodi, but worldwide. Thank you for your interesting opinion, Mr. Martinez, and I agree with yourr synopsis of plain old fearmongering.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:28 am on Sat, Oct 30, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    One would only have to conclude, after reading the letters and columns of a particular lieutenant, that presentations of obnoxious advertisements for marijuana await us: "Reefer Madness down at Timmy's Pub!," or that we need fear our child's school bus driver were Proposition 19 to pass. What is never expressed is the reality of the situation; that none of the fears conveyed by opponents are substantiated.

    Manuel is absolutely right. Manuel does not express the reality of the situation… prop 19 is bad law, written in a way that is likely to saturate our court system with law suit after law suit straining our resources even more than it currently is. When Manuel states “cities have the authority to pass ordinances with the “INTENT” of reducing exposure of marijuana to minors including public displays, the key word is intent. The fear is that intentions may not result in reality. The cities are given power to create ordinances that it sees fit. My guess, is that cities like “San Francisco will do many things that are “not intended” by the law. They have radical people on the city council that think “Height Ashbury” lifestyle from the 60’s should return and would think of as many liberal ordinances as they possibly could. Since cities could license as many public smoke rooms or public facilities as they wish, as they see fit, and since San Francisco would like nothing better than to attract tourism like Denmark did, with it’s drug industry, if prop 19 passes, what would stop them from doing what they want… Manuel reads this bill and has zero clues as to its unintended consequences that may happen. It is obvious that Manuel wants drugs legalized, and he misleads people by stating he wants more jobs and tax revenue. He is simply out of touch with reality and his thinking is very flawed. Unfortunately, like Obama, he paints a pretty picture. He is clever with words and can easily appear reasonable. That phrase, if its too good to be true, then it is not true rings loudly here.

     

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