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We don’t need four more years of President Obama’s ‘path forward’

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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:47 am, Sat Sep 15, 2012.

President Obama told voters on Sept. 2 that he has a "path forward." That path is the same one we just witnessed — the same failed policies — we've seen it. We watched what happened and we lived through it. We don't want to see it repeated.

We remember how Obama invested over a trillion dollars in Solyndra, Ener1, Beacon Power, Spectra Watt and other solar companies that have all gone bankrupt. And he invested the taxpayers' money without asking us. He criticized Romney's work with Bain Capital, but unlike Obama, Romney used private investment. Those companies he invested in were Burger King, Dominos Pizza, Staples, Toys "R" Us and other safe investments. Those companies have brought us billions in revenue while Obama lost trillions of taxpayers' hard-earned money.

Our president won't take advice from anyone. He refuses to listen to financial experts on how to navigate us out of this economic nightmare his reckless spending has gotten us into.

If re-elected, he is determined to repeat the same failed policies and make the same mistakes again and again, no matter how much pain it causes American families. Our children and grandchildren will be strapped with those $16 trillion of debt he's managed to increase.

The most dangerous policies Obama has followed are national defense policies. He has broadcast on national television how he will "cut billions from our weapon systems," and he will "slow down our development of future combat systems." If we don't keep developing future combat weapons, our enemies will, and that mistake by Obama is putting our country in harm's way. He also said, "I will achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals." Our nuclear arsenals are a deterrent to our enemies like Iran and North Korea. Obama has all but shut down NASA and reduced the most powerful United States Navy to its smallest force since 1930.

I have seen enough of this president's disasters. We don't want a repeat of his policies.

Tom Baker

Lodi

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211 comments:

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:34 pm on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Exactly! [thumbup]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:58 pm on Thu, Sep 20, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Mr Lucas wrote:

    He did not interview close friends or close contacts of the President. This movie is just another swiftboat type operating funded by right wing rich people and made by a right wing ideologue. Anyone who thinks it has any relationship to reality is a boob.

    -Why thank you for sertting the record straight. Not only is Obama lying about what D'Souza got from his memoirs, Obama also mislead D'souza by making him believe
    those people he interviewed would tell the truth.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:01 am on Thu, Sep 20, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    65 Outrageous Lies by President Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9m1F8B2_c&feature=youtu.be

    -It's him speaking. No one else.

     
  • stan taves posted at 8:54 am on Thu, Sep 20, 2012.

    Stan Taves Posts: 319

    The question isn't whether or not Obama is a socialist -- we all are to some degree -- the question is: Does Obama want to move us "forward", as he claims; or, does he want to move us far enough to the left as to herd us all into the varying corrals that he and his leftist buddies deem appropriate for us. Face it! this man is a globalist -- do any of you libs even know what that means for the people of this country? If you do, then you would be wrong for this country -- just like Obama -- and not the other way around.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:19 am on Tue, Sep 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas the lady's man stated...PS. Remember when you go to Thailand that you can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl.

    Found a Lucas post that clarifies from where his thinking about bar scenes and lady's originates...Obviously Mr Lucas has good memories of one night stands and thinks others might consider doing the same... Obvously, he has personal experience that led him to perceive that I might do as did did... personally, I find his behavior indecent and an insult to woman.

    John Lucas posted at 6:51 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012... coming home from Vietnam I bought a motorcycle and left Texas and went up the coast of California. The truth is that it got me laid a number of times.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:55 am on Tue, Sep 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    So I think politicians should release all tax returns they have ever filed. Lets have Pelosi, Barney Frank and Mit Romney and Obama show it all. Politicians write law. They can write law that helps them to make money personally. If all legislators were required to show their tax returns, it can be determined if legislation they wrote helped make them money. Why stop at 10 years, lets have all tax returns from the point of the politician's first day in office.

    Obama and Romney should be subject to a complete IRS audit for their entire working career. Lets uncover why Obama spend 2 million to hide many things. We just don't know like Mr Lucas states. But someone that spends that kind of money must have something to hide...WE JUST DON”T KNOW!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:26 am on Tue, Sep 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    In the spirit of Mr Lucas and his concerns for discloser... It is rumored that Obama took college courses in communism and socialism... It is understood that the professors made comments on his transcripts that suggest Obama led a class debate on transforming America into a socialist society...since Obama refuses to release his transcripts, he should be forced to...we just don't know...we need to find out.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:25 am on Tue, Sep 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    .Mr Lucas stated...We have no idea if he paid any taxes before that because he will not release his taxes

    Mr Lucas makes a good point. We should be very concerned if a politician, is telling us the truth and is not hiding something that would would help in determining if voters should elect that individual. I am very interested in Obama's tax returns when he was Senator... we just don't know what Obama did. He must have sponsored laws that resulted in enriching himself. I am very interested in Obama's tax return when he was raising money to fund his campaign before he was a senator. There have been reports that Bill Ayers, a terrorist, funded his campaign. We did to see his tax returns to see if there was some kind of connection. In 1995, Obama got money from radical people from over seas...we think...we just don't know for sure...I think Obama should release all his tax returns for 20 years.
    Lets do a real investigation on both candidates ...we need to make sure Obama did not get money from Muslim terrorists to help get him elected....we just don't know like Mr Lucas says...lets find out..

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:35 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    living in economic times? The question is now mine

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:47 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Mr. Baxter did not lie. He substantiated his position with the following video...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgD-8Bj_Qs

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:44 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Would you be capable of digesting these lies if we were living in economic times? [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:38 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    sorry Darrell but that most of your posts are "inappropriate mocking" babble... is pretty much the consensus around here except for Joe Baxter who seems to live in the same bizzaro world you seem to inhabit.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:22 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Usually one just shakes ones head when they put this nonsense out but Joe baxter is a mean spirited little man. I was going to put him on ignore until he started that bath house ugliness. That was so far across the line it cannot simply be ignored. Now every time he lies(and he will because he cannot help himself) I am going to call him on it.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 8:45 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Joe really is delusional if he thinks he is ruffleing feathers. Joe is more like catching fish in a barrel. When you question him on an absurdity he actually believes you don't understand the gems he passes loosly. There is a problem with conservatives in that they seem so hysterical they have lost basic social graces. Lkie Darrell responding to rhetorical jokes or O-Lame-O here mistaking Reid who basicly said if Romney won't show his tax returns then we will assume he didn't pay them. So Romney didn'tpay any taxes for 10 years. Thats a challenge not a factual statement. Its like the idiot legislator who said 90% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions. When challenged with real facts (like less than 3%) he said he didn't mean to quote actual facts. You can't critisize one and not the other unless of course you heard it on Fox where you will only hear one side

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 7:56 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    word Wa

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 7:51 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Another waste of time video of snippits of CAMPAIGN speak which is hardly earth shattering or inconsistent with any campaigning. 2008 was an exceptional one because normal plans fell through with the economic crash he entered office with. I've already said this before.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:03 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    To say that George Soros is a uber-socialist is another lie.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:57 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Here are a few more.

    He said: Have you ever wondered why Obama sold the contract to count AMERICAN votes to a company in Spain? the federal government is not involved in elections. The states run them and do the contracting. A Lie


    He said that Obamacare originated in the Senate. It did not. A Lie

    He said There are MORE people now on welfare, medicaid, food stamps than in the history of the United States. This is true but to blame it on Obama and not on the economic conditions he inherited is a lie.

    He said: Obama now claims he was born to a "single" mother. He previously stated his mother was married to Obama Senior and were still married when O Sr left them, when he was 2 years old, in Hawaii to go to Harvard. The facts are that soon after his birth his mother moved to Seattle to go to school. She returned to hawaii and Obams father went to Harvrd. The fact is though they were married she lived as a single mother shortly after Obama's birth and not with the father as Mr Baxter says. Another lie

    He said the following people were Obama's pals indicating that he had a close and personal relationships with Tony Rezko, Rod Blagojevich, Jon Corzine , Shervi Neman, Courtney Dupree, Bill Ayers , and George Soros. A lie

    You accused the President of engaging in gay sex with Rah Emanual without any proof to back it up. another lie

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:46 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    He never lived with Bill Ayers parents. This is a new lie

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:44 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I never said that . I suggest you look at my words. I said that nobody said he did not pay for the last ten years. We have no idea if he paid any taxes before that because he will not release his taxes.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:20 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Naw, you had it right the first time. Congratulations, Mr. Lucas.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:19 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Actually, Andrew, I should have put a warning for Mr. Lucas that some of the language was "explicit". Somehow, I suspect he was "stimulated" by some of Mr. Sinclair's discriptions of actions with Barry.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:16 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    "Lies" that you can't disprove,,,,,,I will admit I was wrong about Obama living with BILL AYERS when he actually lived with Bill Ayers parents.
    I will admit I was also incorrect about Soros being a communist. He is a uber-socialist and will fund anyone or organization to transform America in to a socialist nation in preparation for the One World Government. In some respects, worse than communism.
    The rest is facts, easily proven for anyone that has the ability to do a little research.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:12 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    You said, NOBODY said he didn't pay taxes for 10 years. I provide proof that Reid said it. End of argument. Twist, speculate and try to direct the topic but fact is Reid SAID IT. Is Reid "nobody"?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:03 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Of course, In "Lucas world"... it would appear to be inappropriate mocking" babble...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:59 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    Mr. Chang... no, it is not a new low... When people on various threads imply I am a pedophile and adulterer simply because I go to Thailand… that is low. Then there are people like you that completely distort truth by stating I lie often.

    I Call you out and ask you to identify lies, and you suddenly behave cowardly and fail to respond.
    You and Mr. Lucas are standard bearers for “lowly behavior”…

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:51 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    This is the 3rd grade nonsense that is so boring and time wasting. I did not say you did not lie in your post. I said "A whole post without a right wing talking point lie or misrepresentation".

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:45 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You are mistaken when you think you ruffle my feathers. The reality is that you serve a very useful purpose.You are a very good representative of what a Conservative Republican has become in this day and age. You have been caught in countless lies and misrepresentations and show not the least bit of concern or embarrassment. You are mean spirited and viscous in your attacks. Your stunning lack of character and integrity is obvious to anyone reading these pages. So the reality is that I will miss you tomorrow for you make my points better than I do.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:35 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    I liked it... [lol]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:35 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    really

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:34 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Mr. Lucas,
    My life would be so much easier if I wasn't able to realize how stupid people are. The following are 65 LIES. They are LIES straight from the LIARS own mouth. If you can't recognize them there realy isn't much more to say other than you are STUPID.

    http://youtu.be/kg9m1F8B2_c

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:33 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Mr baxter said:
    Kinda makes your claims nobody said Romney didn't pay any taxes for the last 10 years seem pretty stupid, eh? Now who is the LIAR. This, like all the other BS liberal lies, didn;t stick either. Waaa, whine on.

    The fact is we do not know whether mittens paid any taxes at all except the year he put out. He says ""Trust me". When he was running for Governor of Massachusetts he was challenged because he lived in Utah. He said he paid taxes as a Mass resident. He said "Trust me". They took him to court and lo and behold he did not file as a Massachusetts resident. He was allowed to refile and became a resident retroactively. Like you, Mittens is a Republican. With these sort of people what Ronald Reagan said applies. Trust but verify

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:25 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Rental is cleaned and ready for vacationeers coming tomorrow, time to hit the ocean for some serious fishing. No internet aboard the boat, I will go through withdrawls ruffling Liberal feathers. I know Bobbin and Lucas the Liar will miss me. Hang in there Mr. Baumbach, just remember, liberalism is a mental disease.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:21 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    and when you say, "I do agree with one think the guy said." it clearly demonstrates how desperately you need to get off the aspartame... [sleeping]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:20 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Yep, no misrepresentation or lie in my post. I am impressed that you were able to realize that, there may be hope for you yet.
    How did you like the Larry Sinclair video?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:19 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Walter, I normally do not disagree with you but I think you are wrong on this one. This is a very good sign and step forward for Darrell. To get in touch with the real world one first must be in touch with ones feelings. There is hope yet for Darrell.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:15 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


    Mr Baxter said,
    Hee Haw, it is sooo much fun to watch Liberals whine, gotta love it.

    You are confusing whining with the calling out of your well documented lies and misrepresentations.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:08 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I do agree with one think the guy said. Why do we spend millions of dollars in propaganda for People. For that you might ask the Kock brothers, Sheldon Aldeson , Murdock of fox news etc.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:06 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    [sleeping][yawn][sleeping]

    ZZZZZZzzzzzz......

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:01 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Another clear case of right wing projection.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:01 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    "up y**rs Mr Lucas...with all due respect"

    Darrell, this is a new low!

    [lol]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:00 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    It's OK to drink Kool Aid Mr. Lucas but I strongly encourage you to start buying the aspartame free stuff...

    The following explains why... http://youtu.be/S8kgJfw699E

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:53 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Yep, kind of reminds me of grammar school kids closing their eyes, sticking their fingers in their ears and humming real loud when they don't want to hear or see something. Problem with liberals, they lie so much they start to believe as truth. Like Dirty Harry said, They can't "handle the truth".

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:47 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    George Romney being born in Mexico didn't stop some liberals questioning Romney's citizenship and qualifications as a presidential candidate. Romney's grandfather was born in Mexico to AMERICAN citizens in a Mormon missionary compound. George was "vetted", unlike Obama, when he made a run for the presidency. Romney should make a deal, give up his tax records for Obama's college applications.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:39 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Harry Reid, July 31, 2012 in an interview with the Obama worshipping Huffington Post:
    Reid "recalled" a phone call his office received about a month ago from “a person who had invested with Bain Capital,” according to The Huffington Post.
    Reid said the person told him: “Harry, he didn’t pay any taxes for 10 years
    To which Reid said,“He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that’s true? Well, I’m not certain,” Reid told HuffPo. “But obviously he can’t release those tax returns. How would it look?”

    Do you really think Romney would discuss his taxes with a client of Bain? Get real. Another made up lie trying to keep Romney on the defensive instead of focusing on his campaign. Liberals believe the best defense is offense and they are about as offensive as it gets.
    Kinda makes your claims nobody said Romney didn't pay any taxes for the last 10 years seem pretty stupid, eh? Now who is the LIAR. This, like all the other BS liberal lies, didn;t stick either. Waaa, whine on.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:33 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Mr Baxter Said:

    Lucas the Liar, you didn't "make" a joke, you ARE a joke.

    Congratulations Joe! A whole post without a right wing talking point lie or misrepresentation. Good for you. However you might want to work on not sounding like a 3rd grader at recess.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:28 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Our dear Mr Baumbach said:

    up y**rs Mr Lucas...with all due respect

    Very good Darrell. It must be a new thing for you. Being Honest with how you really feel.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:23 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I gave our two resident right wing boobs, Mr Baxter and Mr Baumbach, directions on when to get the reviews Of the propaganda movie 2016 I quoted from. Being boobs they count not find it. Here is the address


    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2247692/externalreviews

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:13 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    He did not interview close friends or close contacts of the President. This movie is just another swiftboat type operating funded by right wing rich people and made by a right wing ideologue. Anyone who thinks it has any relationship to reality is a boob.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:07 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    inappropriate mocking" babble! [smile]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:02 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Hee Haw, it is sooo much fun to watch Liberals whine, gotta love it.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:59 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Lucas the Liar, you didn't "make" a joke, you ARE a joke.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:57 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    "THE CRITICS'' ? What Lucas the Liar conveniently left off is the source of this "review". No doubt to keep from exposing the source as a right wing propaganda venue.
    Here is another review, source revealed:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/review_2016_obamas_america.html

    This next clip is especially for Lucas the Liar
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgD-8Bj_Qs

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:54 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    up y**rs Mr Lucas...with all due respect

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:53 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    can you give a name of a critic you are talking about that is not an Obama cool aid drinker like yourself...one that "might" vote for Romney

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:51 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas stated...I have to agree with you Darrell. The insanity of your ideology would be just the same whatever your name was.

    Mr Lucas could not look more the fool... In "Lucas world". one has a library of information but only utilized selected few books to determine truth... Someone suggests reading more books and Mr Lucas thinks it is insane to question his reality based on two books...That by definition is "Lucas World"

    Bizarre...simply gonzo

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:49 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    I suppose, according to Bobin and Co, all the people D'Souza interviewed who are close contacts, and or friends with Obama told some tall tails about him. One would think they would tell accurate stories of him. But, not according to Bobin and Co.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 2:51 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    It's funny how everyone considers honesty a virtue, yet no one wants to hear the truth.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:39 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    BTW not that it means anything (except as usual you cannot get your facts straight) George Romney was born in Mexico

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:34 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Joe why is it you cannot get through a paragraph wit hour lying?
    No one has said he has not paid income taxes in the last ten years. He paid 13.8/% percent last year you moron. We do not know before because refuses to release anymore.
    There speculation that he too advantage of an amnesty having to do with foreign bank accounts. Releasing his tax returns would of clear up the matter.
    We do not know how many people have died or have gone broke because of his business practices. As you well know he is a vulture capitalist. When you take a company that is cash rich, borrow on their credit to the hilt and because of that debt they go bankrupt while you slink away with millions is the very definition of Vulture Capitalism. Who knows how many people got sick a died because of this or how much money the taxpayers had to come up with when he raided and destroyed the pension funds of those companies.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 2:23 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Mr. Heuer,
    Last month, DHS, through the Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) solicited 1,400 pounds of ammonium nitrate and A-5 Flake RDX – the same ingredients needed for a home-made fertilizer bomb. [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:19 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    inappropriate mocking" babble! [smile]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:14 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    No, go to imb website and look up the movie. Scroll down till you get to external critics. Click on that. There will be many including Variety. The movie is based on the idea that Obama is an anti Colonialist. It is this election swift boat BS.
    D’Souza is this year Jerome Corsi backed by right nuts to put out a movie or a book based on lies and innuendo. We have been here before. This dog does not hunt anymore. I have seen D’Souza interviewed several times and he is an ideologue not in touch with reality.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:05 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    No "K" in panic, sorry.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:04 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    You mean like, "Romney hasn't paid any income tax for 1o years"? Or "Romney is a possible felon", or "Romney's father wasn't born in America"? or how about "Romney is responsible for Joe Soptic's wife dying of cancer"? Or how about "Ryan's budget will end Medicare", and the ever popular "Romney is a vulture capatalist". Problem is, they can't make ANYTHING stick, but they continue with the lies hoping something might. Waaaa, poor liberals are in a panick.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:01 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I have to agree with you Darrell. The insanity of your ideology would be just the same whatever your name was.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:00 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas... For this oine insrtant, you are either a bold face liar or high on drugs ...

    Maybe I am wrong... if so, please articulate how you came up with that specific "joke"...

    Actually, it could be Mr Lucas thinks we are so dumb that he can bluff his way through the obvious.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:59 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    HAPPY CONSTITUTION DAY OBAMANOIDS!
    [happybirthday]

    http://youtu.be/b76mBlnm86w

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:57 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Don't get excited Mr. Lucas... I was referring to Mr. Baxter's comment.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:57 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Critics? you mean Obama cool aid drinkers coming to the defence of Obama... This film used obama's words and interviewed Obama's people who were friendly to Obama.

    Be honest for once Mr Lucas...go see the film and then rebute what you think is not accurate. Instead, you use people would have a vested interest in Obama winning to discredit what you cannot face...an honest video showing who Obama is at heart...it is not a pretty picture.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:56 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Mr Baxter said

    Hah, Lucas the Liar says they are lies, so it must be so? Give me a break, whatta a putz.

    No. Logic and documentation says they are lies. The odds are very good that when you say something it will be untrue or at the very least misleading,

    BTW Gave up on ignoring me have you? I was going to ignore you but when you came up with that bathhouse BS I changed my mind. Only a slimeball could put that out as fact. We on our side who have respect for facts and science and personal integrity have long made the mistake of ignoring the out and out lies of people like you.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:54 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Exactly! [thumbup]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:53 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Heuer comicly states...Darrell
    You know if you think you can get out of jail free by saying your a Lodi Baumbach ...

    Mr Heuer, a vast majority of most Lodi Baumbachs are dead... I do not expect anything because of my family name. That goes contrary to me placing a high value on "merit"... in addition, I had the perception that the Baumbach name was not an advantage at all since our family line originated named from poor uneducated farmers who were just trying to survive by working 15 hour days. No Baumbach I know was financially successful.Your post is quite silly and not very well thought through...

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:37 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Joe Baxter said:

    but you should try thinking for YOURSELF, if you are capable

    This ironic coming from the right wing talking point repeating machine. If you did not have the right wind windbag machine to copy you would be a mute.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:24 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Difference is Bobbin, I am not running any of Michael Moore's films down. His work has largely been discredited over time. If I watch one of his films, I might feel entitled to express my opinion. Until that time I will not comment on his work. I suggest YOU do the same. I realize that your total mindset is what the LIBERAL talking head tell you it should be, but you should try thinking for YOURSELF, if you are capable.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:21 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Some critics take on the movie 2016

    The ideas D’Souza puts forth are spurious and vicious, and it’s hard to judge a film with such underpinnings. Technically, 2016: Obama’s America is up to snuff, but the documentary’s thought process is pure snuff.

    : this pseudo-documentary is such an intellectually dishonest, disingenuous, feeble-minded character attack. It’s slimy, snide, petty, and wallows in conjecture and fear mongering.
    Right there, D’Souza goes against the tagline of his own movie, which reads, “You Love Him. You Hate Him. You Don’t Know Him.” By cherry-picking his sources, and following a narrative he wants to put forth, D’Souza shows that he doesn’t really want to know Obama, either. Instead, he wants us to know the Obama he wants to show us.

    Of course, left-leaning critics are going pick apart every aspect of the film, and in a way D’Souza is quite canny in not giving them much ammunition and forcing them to reach for their shots. Not only does he generally avoid the kind of far-out claims that are so beloved by Tea Partiers, but he frames the film as a psychological explanation—a theory—which means that it literally cannot be “disproved.” He also pulls back his guns from time to time, such as allowing an acknowledgement that George W. Bush also deserves a great deal of blame for the skyrocketing deficit.

    D’Souza is too enamored of his Great Big Theory to spend time with the relevant facts.
    This is all fascinating stuff, and some of it might even be true, but D’Souza never brings any compelling evidence to the table.

    The first 15 minutes or so are more about D’Souza than Obama. And D’Souza begins by claiming he has some insight into Obama’s mindset because of their shared colonial experience, never mind that Obama grew up mostly in the U.S. while D’Souza stayed in his native India until he came to the U.S. for college.

    For the bulk of its running time, the pic comes off as a cavalcade of conspiracy theories, psycho-politico conjectures and incendiary labeling -- "breathtakingly anti-America" is only one of the epithets tossed about like so much confetti -- as D'Souza and assorted interviewees question Obama's patriotism, deny his support of Israel, decry his Big Government programs, and generally recycle claims, charges and dire warnings D'Souza (and others) have previously promulgated in books, lectures, op-ed screeds and various Fox News guest appearances.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:19 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Mr Baxter said:

    Just like your insinuations that Mr. Baumbach visits Thailand for "girls"? Lucas the Liberal Liar strikes again.

    I made a Joke. I never thought Mr Baumbach was interested in girls.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:17 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    I have seen Owe-Blame-O say things, watched the videos over and over and still the brain dead LIBERALS will deny he ever said such a thing, it's all a big conservative cospiracy to make the moron look bad. He doesn't need any help in making himself look bad, he does a fine job all himself.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:13 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Hah, Lucas the Liar says they are lies, so it must be so? Give me a break, whatta a putz.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:09 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    But you can't claim originality for that insinuation, Bobbin beat you to it. And she has the gall to call anyone's post vulgar.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:07 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Just like your insinuations that Mr. Baumbach visits Thailand for "girls"? Lucas the Liberal Liar strikes again.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:37 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You are right Tom. This has been the right wing way of doing things for many years. Throw as much stuff on the wall and see if any of it sticks otherwise we would be talking about the mind blowing stupidity of right wing ideology or the history of that ideology when applied to the real world. 1929 and 2008 economies, the Iraq war, Arms for hostages, the S & L scandals etc

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:29 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    Baxxterr wrote: "Hey Bobbin, did you actually SEE the movie? Or, as I suspect, you haven't even seen the movie and since it portrays Owe-Blame-O in a negative light, it simply can't be true. Kindly relate exactly what information that was presented in the film that was a lie or not factual."

    Have you seen Farhenheit 9/11 or any of the other Michael Moore movies? I suspect not, since you wouldn't spend a dime on any perceived liberal position.

    For the same reason, I would not give a dime of my money to this prostitute for the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, a man who believes in multiple conspiracy theories, and a person who thinks he is the utimate elitist and could care less about equality or social justice.

    Here is a good example of why D'Souza thinks the way he thinks courtesy of 'The Economist." But then again, you, Baxxterr, would most likely A) not comprehend it because it is above your 8th grade reading level, or B) not comprehend it because it seems to explain a lot about D'Souza's reason for hating Obama and the equality that the United States of America provides for its citizens:

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/09/obama_derangement_syndrome

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:19 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You said:

    Obama's regular visitations to Man's Country, a gay spa in Chicago, are well documented.

    This nonsense is getting old. The swiftboating continues. This has not been documented by anyone. It is an allegation put out by the liars on the right wing lying machine and spread around by ignorant boobs such as yourself. Another Joe Baxter lie.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:16 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    Boooo

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:15 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    And yes he would like to go over each post over and over and over and over and...
    and I would applause Andrew the daw he finds daylight however he will have to get applause only when a posting delay occurs and accept that when it rightfulol belongs the Wa the mighty Chang

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:06 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    You said:

    but never have I posted anything I consciously knew to be a lie.

    Therein lies the problem. Are you conscious? That is the debate.

    conscious |ˈkänCHəs| adjective
    aware of and responding to one's surroundings; awake.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:05 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Oh rasberries to the juveniles. One is so pathetic he fails to realize the bar joke was rhetorical and the mad bax fails to realize Owe-Blame-O, his greatest contribution to society, is So-Lame*O

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:00 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    Darrell I have always said that women and avocados are proof of a loving God and she did a great job when it came to them. I love them all including hookers. Theirs is the oldest profession. It is the way you think of them that degrades them. That is the real dehumanizing thing, your mindset.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:56 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    I wondered what the wod prevaricating meant. Thanks. Good word.
    Word Wa

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:54 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Oh, that's rich. Bobbin admonishing someone for posting something SHE considers "vulgar". Look in the mirror, old girl, YOU wrote the book on vulgarities.
    My post was in response to Lucas the Liberal saying Obama was a "decent" man. Obama's regular visitations to Man's Country, a gay spa in Chicago, are well documented.
    I can imagine what a field day you would have if that information leaked out about Romney.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:54 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Applause

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:49 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win . by Mahatma Gandhi.
    I just documented some of the many lies and distortions that permeate your posts. A very easy thing to do as that is pretty much all you do. Your words are an insight into your character and picture is not very pretty

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:49 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    Darrell
    You know if you think you can get out of jail free by saying your a Lodi Baumbach maybe your life experiences have been so limited (as your politics imply) you may be able to boast you have no questionable relationships in your past (I doubt it) or did anything that might not reflect favorably on someone from Acampo (I highly doubt) or maybe you didn't bully and attack other kids to cut their hair as Mitttins did (I seriously doubt) so that people who live real lives may look awkward to you. I can definitly say I've known strange characters and done some strange and some regretable things that are not who I am now. Is Mit a bully now physically attacking people? Hasn't hit the news yet. Thats how you fact check. There maybe some question about his campaign tactics and history at Bain. Will that effect my vote? Hardly. Has Bill Ayers or any of the lists of names given here been frequent visitors to the white house lately? Have there been any buildings blown up? No only by exterme conservatives like T Mc Veigh and of course 9/11. Hardly a 60s radical movement. You know the 60s were a long time ago. I guess thats why they say elephants never forget.
    Obama accepts money from lobbiests? And where does he hide it under his mattress? Does this effect which bill he will pass or veto if he ever gets one from congress? Maybe it determines what executive orders to issue which he has written fewer than any president and the one was for latino students (are they lobbiests)? Or maybe this is the money he sends directly to the muslim brotherhood. Yeah thats what lobbiests get the high salaries for.

    You go on to claim medical account penalties which sound an awful lot like my like my IRA penalties (which is all MAs are). Or OTC meds needing a prescription which my HMO won't pay for even with a prescription. Then rail again with the Obama campaign statements, geeze Louise, yet you still can't acknowledge Lyin Ryan with numerous lies and bad math (clearly in the news) or Mits numerous 180 deg flipflops (you don't need to fact checking these) only shows your total disregard for truth and instead try to do your Fox news best to spin the partisan promotions.
    Regan started the 2% bar on medical expense and other tax catagories (raising taxes) years ago as people were believing he only lowered taxes. Why quibble now because Ryan conservatives want to be rid of all deductions and raise your taxes.
    So you post alot of c.a.r.p, as I said before, to sound like you have keen insight but all you do is tire people out. Your modus operandi is to say enough c.a.r.p that require tedious fact checking, because you have frankly bankrupted yourself of any credibility, just so you are the last man standing to give you a sense of victory and make Rush Limbaugh proud (if he should by chance ever give you the time of day). . This weekend I spent with family and friends not with a laptop or Iphone adding post after post (you probably tell your family its business). Like I said before if LNS pays you to drum up numbers of posts then ...

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:27 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Ignore the ignoramous, he is just looking to pick a fight......Since his IDOL Owe-
    Blame-O lies so much he just figures everyone else does as well. Liberal whiners are pathetic.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:58 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxterr wrote: "Wonder how "decent" he was in the Chicago Gay bath houses with his buddy Rahm Emanuel?"

    You can always tell when an idiot runs out of anything HE considers intelligent and begins to post vulgarities. A clear sign of a moron.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 10:26 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    “I have not posted one thing I perceived a lie”

    I perceive that you’re prevaricating, again!

    “I have made mistakes”

    It’s unmistaken, when you post mistakes deliberately, you’re prevaricating!

    “I consciously knew to be a lie”

    Dogs aren’t conscious either. So they don’t smell their own, do they?????

    [tongue]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:40 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Only an Obamanoid would one applaud the fact that they have been lied to...[sleeping]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:38 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I agree Mr Heuer, It is good to applause when Mr Liebich points out truth ..

    Since the video simply records then plays Obama speaking
    , it is amazing that Mr Chang can distort such obvious truth by calling it Baloney.

    If he really thought it was baloney, Mr Chang would have posted specifics and articulated what words were not true.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:32 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    Mr Chang...I would be happy to go over each post you are referring to. In contrast to Obama who lies more often than one can possible track, I have not posted one thing I perceived a lie. I have made mistakes, I have posted statements that turned out to be false that I originally believed to be true, but never have I posted anything I consciously knew to be a lie.

    I can easily refute any claim you post of something you in error perceive that I lied.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:16 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Applause

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:14 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Baxter
    Keep up your record of never letting anything intelligent fall from your head. Surely you'ld suprise everyone even Darrell if he could recognize an intelligent thought.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:42 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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    "Baloney"???

    What planet are you on Walter? They are Obama's OWN WORDS! [sleeping]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 7:52 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    “there are so many lies that I cannot post them all”

    Darrell, with most of your 8000 postings in the LNS comments section being…

    Falsehoods, distortions, embellishments, fabrications, prevarications and outright lies!!

    You’re doing great so don’t sell yourself short!!

    [thumbup]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 7:51 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    “I already posted that video Darrell”

    How do you know when desperation permeates the scene??

    When Darrell post the same baloney that Andrew post, that’s how!!!

    [beam]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:49 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    HAPPY CONSTITUTION DAY! [happybirthday]

    http://youtu.be/b76mBlnm86w

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:33 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    posted..oops I guess I need to go to bed too... [lol]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:31 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    I already poated that video Darrell...[smile]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:06 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Oh My, I have to get to bed... there are so many lies that I cannot post them all...

    Here is a video that has a number of lies...WORDS MATTER: Original Obama Un-narrated Documentary/Review (in his own words

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8R5GvwUFU8&feature=player_embedded

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:54 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    More Obama lies...

    Classmate ( of Barack)Rony Amiris described Obama as being a very devout Muslim, saying, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.” Another classmate, Emirsyah Satar, now the CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, “He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a ’sarong.’” (See Obama’s Education.)Yet, on his official campaign website, Obama has posted this statement, “Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity.”Obama’s grandfather was a Muslim. Obama’s father was a Muslim. Obama’s stepfather was a Muslim. His African relatives are Muslims. What was he for the 27 years before his alleged conversion if he wasn’t a Muslim? If Obama has always been a Christian, why was he enrolled in two Jakarta schools as a Muslim, and why did he study the Quran?And note his Clintonesque defense, “I have never practiced.”This is Obama’s biggest problem — his dissimulation.Saying, “I’ve always been a Christian,” is a bold-faced lie.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:44 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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    Barack Obama in 2003, talking to the AFL/CIO:“I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare coverage. That’s what I’d like to see.”In January, 2008, Obama claimed in a nationally televised debate:”I never said that we should try to go ahead and get single-payer.”

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:44 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Oh the horror! Yes those were just so awful and terrible lies. By the way your record of most posts in a row without anybody in between is 13. You are losing your grip Darrell.
    Time for bed

    PS. Remember when you go to Thailand that you can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl. goodnight Darrell

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:28 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    More Obama lies? Happy to help out Mr Lucas who can not find one.

    Obama promised that he wouldn’t allow lobbyists in his staff, or money in his funds. That was in 2007, as it stands today the President has accepted millions of dollars from lobbyists and special interest groups. The President even took it one step farther by appointing many of those lobbyists into positions of power and influence.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:04 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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    Obama stated... "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes

    The Health Savings Account Withdrawal Penalty. Since Jan. 1, 2011, taxpayers who withdraw money from health savings accounts for non-medical expenses before age 65 face a 20% penalty, up from 10% before.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:03 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Obama stated... "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes

    The Over-The-Counter Drugs Trap. Since Jan. 1, 2011, employees with health savings accounts, flexible spending accounts or health reimbursement accounts have no longer been able to use pre-tax funds stashed in these accounts to buy over-the-counter medicines for allergy relief and the like without a doctor’s prescription (there’s an exception for insulin).

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:02 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Obama stated... "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes

    The Cadillac Health Insurance Plan Tax. Starting in 2018, there will be a new 40% excise tax on taxpayers who are covered by high-cost health insurance plans (with premiums at or above $10,200 for a single or $27,500 for a family). Insurers or employers who are self-insured will pay the tax, but it is expected to trickle down to mean higher costs for consumers.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:01 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Obama stated... "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    The Medical Itemized Deduction Hurdle. Starting Jan. 1, 2013, taxpayers who face high medical expenses will only be allowed a deduction for expenses to the extent they exceed 10% of adjusted gross income, up from 7.5% now. Taxpayers 65 and older can still use the old 7.5% threshold through 2016. For how to score the medical expense deduction before 2013, click here.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:00 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Obama stated... "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    The Individual Mandate Excise Tax. Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income tax surtax. It goes up each year until 2016 and beyond when a couple would pay a tax of the higher of $1,360 or 2.5% of adjusted gross income.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:56 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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    Obama stated... "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    Even Mr Lucas who without doubt is an Obama cool aid drinker, substantiated that Obama was responsible for the largest "TAX" increase in American history. No matter if the house originated the tax or not, it is now obviously agreed that Obama told the biggest whopper of a lie in American history... since he pretended it was not a tax in order to achieve more government control over our lives and pass legislation that would never have been otherwise.

    Pinokio must be very jealous of Obama

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:12 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Joe Baxter said:

    Wonder how "decent" he was in the Chicago Gay bath houses with his buddy Rahm Emanuel?

    Mr Baxter said this about the President. Amazing, I wonder if their is no limit to the ugliness of Mr Baxter's soul.

    He said that Obama lived with Bill ayers. A lie

    He said that George Soros was a Communist. A Lie

    He said: Have you ever wondered why Obama sold the contract to count AMERICAN votes to a company in Spain? the federal government is not involved in elections. The states run them and do the contracting. A Lie

    He said that Obamacare originated in the Senate. It did not. A Lie

    He said There are MORE people now on welfare, medicaid, food stamps than in the history of the United States. This is true but to blame it on Obama and not on the economic conditions he inherited is a lie.

    He said: Obama now claims he was born to a "single" mother. He previously stated his mother was married to Obama Senior and were still married when O Sr left them, when he was 2 years old, in Hawaii to go to Harvard. The facts are that soon after his birth his mother moved to Seattle to go to school. She returned to hawaii and Obams father went to Harvrd. The fact is though they were married she lived as a single mother shortly after Obama's birth and not with the father as Mr Baxter says. Another lie

    He said the following people were Obama's pals indicating that he had a close and personal relationships with Tony Rezko, Rod Blagojevich, Jon Corzine , Shervi Neman, Courtney Dupree, Bill Ayers , and George Soros. A lie

    Now he accuses the President of engaging in gay sex with Rah Emanual without any proof to back it up.

    Mr Baxter continues to exhibit this low life behavior with the vast majority of his posts.There is no innuendo he will not engage in. He does not need proof or any evidence to back his ugly vicious rumors up. I have rarely seen a man so devoid of human dignity or the complete and utter lack of integrity or character. He is a disgrace to the idea of being a human being.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:07 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Joe Baxter said:

    Wonder how "decent" he was in the Chicago Gay bath houses with his buddy Rahm Emanuel?

    Mr Baxter said this about the President.Amazing, I wonder if their is no limit to the ugliness of Mr Baxter's soul.

    He said that Obama lived with Bill ayers. A lie

    He said that George Soros was a Communist. A Lie

    He said: Have you ever wondered why Obama sold the contract to count AMERICAN votes to a company in Spain? the federal government is not involved in elections. The states run them and do the contracting. A Lie

    He said that Obamacare originated in the Senate. It did not. A Lie

    He said There are MORE people now on welfare, medicaid, food stamps than in the history of the United States. This is true but to blame it on Obama and not on the economic conditions he inherited is a lie.

    He said: Obama now claims he was born to a "single" mother. He previously stated his mother was married to Obama Senior and were still married when O Sr left them, when he was 2 years old, in Hawaii to go to Harvard. The facts are that soon after his birth his mother moved to Seattle to go to school. She returned to hawaii and Obams father went to Harvrd. The fact is though they were married she lived as a single mother shortly after Obama's birth and not with the father as Mr Baxter says. Another lie

    He said the following people were Obama's pals indicating that he had a close and personal relationships with Tony Rezko, Rod Blagojevich, Jon Corzine , Shervi Neman, Courtney Dupree, Bill Ayers , and George Soros. A lie

    Now he accuses the President of engaging in gay sex with Rah Emanual without any proof to back it up.

    Mr Baxter continues to exhibit this low life behavior with the vast majority of his posts.There is no innuendo he will not engage in. He does not need proof or any evidence to back his ugly vicious rumors up. I have rarely seen a man so devoid of human dignity or the complete and utter lack of integrity or character. He is a disgrace to the idea of being a human being.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:36 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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    Ms Bobin stated...Mr. Baumbach actually believes that the propaganda movie, 2016, contains the absolute truth about Obama..

    More treats from Tina Fey Bobin...

    Imagine Ms Bobin doing a book review... She starts out by saying, please understand, I have not read this book, do not know anything but what was contained in the book cover, but I am here to tell you, if you believe there is truth in this book, you are a fool.

    This applies to her comical Tina Fey type analysis of the movie 2016. There are 3 people in this thread who are making claims about something that they know nothing about. Again, Tina Fey ( that air head character) would be jealous of your performance Ms Bobin. With all this serious talk, it is pleasant to have a break and enjoy Ms Bobin's stand up comedy.[lol][beam]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:10 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I know you feel uncomfortable with a President that shows respect to others. You much prefer the blustery types that get us involved in stupid wars like Bush did in Iraq without any idea of the unintended consequences of such action and the cost in blood and treasure. It might make you uncomfortable but I prefer the walk softly and carry a big stick which is exemplified by Obama. He tries to make friends with those he can and takes out the terrorists on the side with intelligence and competence, two attributes not found with Republicans.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:53 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2012/07/20/but-it-did-originate-in-the-house/

    But there’s a problem with that argument: Obamacare originated in the House as H.R. 3590, and it was originally called the “Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009.” Yes, it was amended, and amended heavily, in the Senate, but the Constitution says of revenue bills, “the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.”

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:12 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Interesting note, the Supreme Court ruled Obamacare was a TAX. Guess what, according to the Constitution, all tax issues are to be initiated in the HOUSE. Lemme think now, did that happen? Nope, ergo the Obamacare tax is unconstitutional. This is going to get interesting. Even if Odumbo somehow manages to squeak out a win, this ILLEGAL tax is going down.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:55 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Just like Obama, your word is worthless. I thought you were going to ignore me.
    I see you are versed in "liberal math" and swallow the BS the liberal pundits broadcast as fact.
    Bush had 55 months in a row of steady job growth. Odumbo? ZERO. His employment figures are the same as a gambler relating his success.He simply tells about his winnings and omits his losses. And the poor liberal simpletons swallow it hook, line and sinker.There are MORE people out of work now than when your president took office. There are MORE people now on welfare, medicaid, food stamps than in the history of the United States. Owe-Blame-O is clueless but is great at doing the bidding of his contributors. There is going to be an ugly revolution in this country if he keeps wiping his behind with the Constitution and forcing citizens to do his will without going through the correct political processes.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:32 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Ms Bobin wrote:

    Best: Polls show Americans think Obama is better at handling foreign policy than Willard: 51% to 38%

    -Obama has been President for almost four years. For the most part, the general population would believe he is better at handling foreign policy since he has a track record. I believe Romney will be better at handling foreign policy because of his business experience and dealings with businesses all over the world. For now, since he has no track record on foreign policy it seems unfair to compare Obama with Romney..

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:25 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Ms. Bobin wrote:


    Was the GM bailout a "backroom deal?" I thought that it was widely publicized. Maybe YOU didn't get the memo, Mr. Docktor.

    Really Ms. Bobin? I hope you're not that naive to believe there weren't any backroom deals in the widely publicized GM bailout. How convenient for you to leave the s off of deal as a way of suggesting I believe the GM basilout was a backroom deal.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:26 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    It is called snark Jerome. As to this:

    trickery, lies, deceit and chicanery (to name just a few) that have become the hallmarks of the Democrat party.

    This is clearly a case of projection
    You are the party of Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Fox News, etc. They have honed their skills a trickery, lies, deceit and chicanery to a level never before seen. For them it is an art form.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 3:02 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    So it makes me wonder what kind of human being would continuously berate, make fun of or otherwise put down other humans who have no control over themselves, as Mr. Lucas believes members of the Tea Party group are. Wouldn't this make them full-fledged bigots?

    On the other hand, I am confident that liberals/progressives are capable of changing their thought processes and should be encouraged to do so; not by mean-spirited methods, but by simply offering the truth as opposed to the trickery, lies, deceit and chicanery (to name just a few) that have become the hallmarks of the Democrat party.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:56 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    He is not God but he is a very good President and a very decent man. He is also going to be re-elected.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:52 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Incoherent babble. The one thing in life you are good at. Do you really think I care what you think about me? As usual, you give yourself too much credit. First I would have to believe that you were capable of thinking and I also woulds have to have a shred of respect for you as a person of integrity.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 2:49 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    [thumbup] an intelligent comment from Mr. Lucas... WOW!

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:20 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Wow, I do feel pangs of guilt by demeaning Mr. Lucas being a truck driver. As Clint Eastwood said in Magnum Force, "a man has got to know his limitations" and apparently Mr. Lucas knows his own limitations. Kindly accept my apologies if I hurt your feelings, sport.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:12 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Hey Bobbin, did you actually SEE the movie? Or, as I suspect, you haven't even seen the movie and since it portrays Owe-Blame-O in a negative light, it simply can't be true. Kindly relate exactly what information that was presented in the film that was a lie or not factual.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:07 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Another poll from Huffington "Obama is God" Post? Pathetic.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:48 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Yes we saw what happened when we elected George Bush. We got a financial meltdown, were losing 800,000 jobs a month, the auto industry on its knees, bank were closing by the hundreds and the stock market crashing to below 7000. Yes it is terrible under this "liberal stooge president" we have had 4.500,000 million private sector jobs created in the last 30 months, the auto industry is doing well, the stock market is over 13,000, corporations a recording record profits. I know you are not very bright but(Darrell you and Mr Chapman might want to hear this also) as bad as it is creating 100,000 jobs in a month is better than losing 800,000 jobs a month. Now try real hard and lets do the arithmetic( we know it is very hard for Conservatives, if fact most do not even believe in it.). I will keep it simple so that even you guys can understand ir. When you lose 800,000 jobs that is -800,000. If you create 100,000 that is +100,000. That is a difference of 900,000 jobs. that means the "liberal stooge president" was doing 900,000 better than the "Genius Conservative President" WE will getting to the multiplication tables next though I doubt any of you will be able to handle long division..

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:32 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    for those still suffering from Obamanosis... http://youtu.be/4puS-yjwsiE

    [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:30 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell are you really so dense that you cannot see what would have happened if Obama had not taken the action he did? I do not believe it. No one can be that dense. Do you have any idea of the rolling effects of putting millions of people out of work at the same time? I know you like seeing people lose their jobs (are you not always saying it was better in 2008 when we were losing 800,000 jobs a month) but even the pleasure you get from the pain of others should be put aside in times like this.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:22 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    all true Joanne but the truth is starting to come out about the many warnings the Bush Administration got about the coming attack on 9/11. It is now known they got numerous red flag warnings. If they would have come to alert status they still might not have prevented it and could not been blamed in any way for these things are hard to stop.. The facts are that they had numerous warnings about the coming attack and sat on their hands completely ignoring the intelligence. Bush and Cheney both showed gross negligence in their handling of the intelligence of the coming attack on 9-11. That Liz Cheney can get up and offer any intellectual assessment in the area of national security is laughable on its face.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:45 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Speaking of back room deals, Ms. Bobin."

    Was the GM bailout a "backroom deal?" I thought that it was widely publicized. Maybe YOU didn't get the memo, Mr. Docktor.

    Funniest moments of the week:

    1. Mr. Baumbach actually believes that the propaganda movie, 2016, contains the absolute truth about Obama. But perhaps we should not berate him so terribly for this character fault. It is no doubt the result of DNA, given that his ancestors in the old country were so enthralled with propaganda also.

    2. Liz Cheney on "The Week" sans George Stephanopolous, this week campaigning for Willard Romney rather than offering intellectual assessment of the week's events. Her contentions that Obama has left the US vulnerable, is lousy at foreign policy, and that we were "better off four years ago," not only had the left and middle of the road pundits refuting her, but the right-wingers were rolling their eyes in embarassment for her. Another political child trying to defend Daddy's awful record.

    3. Willard Romney continuing to stick his foot in his mouth about the so-called "apologies." Even many of his own party members condemned him for politicizing the deaths of four Americans in Libya.

    Best: Polls show Americans think Obama is better at handling foreign policy than Willard: 51% to 38%.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:37 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Thanks Mr Lucas... you so clearly substantiate and support my opinion of you well.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:34 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas stated... Obama saved the auto industry...

    Mr Lucas needs to contact Bill Maher quickly... he could be a lead writer on his comedy show... gulp...glup...glup... more Obama cool aid please[lol]

    UAW gets close to 20% stock in GM illegally and Mr Lucas is talking about how much the unions sacraficed... with a straight face.... that is stand up comedy at it's best.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:27 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Yup, uh, yup....if I wuz as enteligent as Mr. Lukas, I cud get me a gud job drivin one of them thar truks up and down the rode. But wait, I am a lot smarter than Mr. Lucas and I don't need a job. Poor misguided Mr. Lucas, lives in a make believe fantasy world painted by Obama, Matthews, Maddow, Biden and all the other brain dead liberals that all sit around holding hands, wearing rose colored glasses and singing kumbayah. See what happens when you elect a liberal stooge president. Say, Mr. Lucas, did you figure out when Owe-Blame-O lied about his mom being married to his "father"? when he was born? In the book or at his campaign speech?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:30 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You mean the UAW workers who took a pay cut and a cut in benefits as part of the deal? the President saved the auto industry and millions of jobs. If we had done what Mittens, you , Robert Chapman or Darrell wanted to do the effects of letting the auto industry go bankrupt would have shoved us into another great depression and the unemployment rat would probably be at 20%. By the way, the loans are well on the way to being repaid. This episode is just another example of Conservative idiocy. We witnessed enough of that from 2000 to 2008 when the fruits of "Conservative Thought" was on display for everyone to see.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 11:12 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857


    Ms. Bobin wrote:

    We really SHOULD be worried about Willard Romney's association with and willingness to accept money from Sheldon Adelson. Talk about "paling around with" crooks!!
    Adelson has given or will give 43 MILLION dollars to the Romney election effort and in return is expected to benefit by a 2 BILLION tax cut when Willard passes his pay-off to the wealthy. And they say back room deals are dead!

    -Chuckle,

    The $37 billion bailout of GM was taxpayer funded. Obama was not as interested in saving GM as much as grovelling to the UAW. Speaking of back room deals, Ms. Bobin.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:49 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Rick Santorum at the Values Summit said the following on what it is to be a Conservative:

    We will never have the elite, smart people on our side

    I could not agree more. To enter the modern day Conservative house you have to leave your brain at the door for it is not allowed inside. Listen to the babble of Darrell, Joe Baxter or Mr Chapman. The difference between them and Mr Santorum is that Mr Santorum at least knows he is not smart.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:03 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Uh Oh, Mr. Chapman...ya went and woke poor old Walter. Easy there Walter, take your meds and lie back down, everything will be all right. Sweet dreams.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:31 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Don't ask me ask Jesus.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 5:56 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Define "rich".

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:27 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    No Mr Chang, Mr Lucas left it (religion) out . Please note his post...

    John Lucas posted at 10:21 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012... Mr Heuer is not being bigoted. Degrading someone because of race, gender, sexual preference is bigotry.

    It is not important however as his difinition was wrong asa whole. Its why i helped him out by posting the dictionary definition.

     
  • dave howard posted at 11:41 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    dave howard Posts: 25

    people now days can't take care of them salf they have no idea
    how to make it on there own so they need a man like obama to
    make government bigger so they can live off the government
    with walfare and food stamps and live in section eight housing
    with the taxpayer footing the bill on the whole nine yards and
    most liberal in calif. are brain dead and don't know any better
    as long as someone else is paying the bills.
    Archey Bunker said it best. Didn't need no walfare states
    every body pulled there weight.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:36 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I believe you are right Darrell. It is bigoted to be intolerant of the mentally deficient group known as the Teabaggers. They really are just born that way. I stand corrected.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 9:20 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    "Degrading someone because of race, gender, sexual preference is bigotry"

    Darrell, you left out religion, didn't you????

    [huh]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:50 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas with out of control anger stated...Mr Heuer is not being bigoted. Degrading someone because of race, gender, sexual preference is bigotry. Being disgusted and speaking out about the mindless stupidity of teabaggers is being descriptive of the reality of the teabagger mindset.

    Humm... lets consult a dictionary... Clearly Mr Lucas is very confused...

    Definition of BIGOT
    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance ...Example of BIGOT

    He was labeled a bigot after making some offensive comments.
    ( about a group...just like teabaggers)


     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:42 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Joe, always enjoy your posts. One experience I unfortunately did not participate in was military life like you did. My loss.

    I always appreciate how a person like yourself solves problems and understands reality.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:36 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mocking? humm...no, just simple observation resulting in articulating how you were mistaken. I was simply helping you understand reality.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:34 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I kind of like this one;

    Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:17 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    No Mr Chang... I am responding "to" absurdity ( you and Tillett) by being absurd...

    I always tell you I communicate and post based on the level of the person I am engaging... it may appear to be childish but in reality, I am providing a mirror for your benefit.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 7:02 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    Correction:

    Copy, paste, EDIT, post and pass along as his own personal experience!


    [wink]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:48 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    "I ran across an interesting Bible verse lately."

    The Colonel provides nothing original here people!!

    Trolls the internet...

    Copy, paste, post and pass along as his own!

    "It would be tempting to take that as a political statement and I do in fact put it up in the sidebar of my DISSECTING LEFTISM blog for a bit of fun. In fact, of course, Solomon was writing around 3,000 years before political divisions came to be referred to in Right/Left terms"

    http://www.bloggernews.net/125192

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 6:20 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    I ran across an interesting Bible verse lately. Ecclesiastes - Chapter 10 verse 2
    The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
    Apparently modern political posturing has roots known to the ancients.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:01 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    Entertaining your fans with childish slight of hand tricks again, Darrell???

    [tongue]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:29 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    I am not as "docile" as Mr. Baumbach, call ME a teabagger to my face and I promise you will get more than "giggles". Someone would be whining and bursting into tears and it certainly wouldn't be me.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:17 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Good point Mr. Heuer... now that I think about it, the term “support” is not accurate to my intent.... support can have a financial connotation and that was not what I was referring to.

    By support, I meant admire and appreciate... I listed many people who happened to be black that Americans should be proud are Americans and have contributed to society in a positive way. I have always made comments where merit is most important and race is not important. It is what you do, not what you look like that counts. I only wish my contributions were as significant as theirs.

    You on the other hand do not refute your use of inflammatory terms (teabaggers) and obviously have no problem insulting a group of people you intensely dislike.

    .

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:08 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Here ya go, sport, straight from the Liar in Chief's own mouth.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ60yx_yH3c

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:00 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Aha, I guess Obama didn't buy a house from and make political dealings with Rezko? Someone he didn't have close relations with ? I guess Obama didn't live with Ayers and his girlfriend, also someone he didn't have close relationship with? Blago? Corzine? Neman? Soros? Didn't know or have political and personal interactions with any of these felons either? Now, YOU are showing what an idiot you are. Information is readily available to substantiate these relationships, well maybe not on your BIASED LIBERAL info pool.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:00 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I agree with Mr Chang... Jeff Tillett provides links that does not prove anything.... no substance what so ever...great catch Mr Chang![thumbup]

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 4:21 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    wrong again.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/scytl.asp

    http://www.independentsentinel.com/2012/05/we-are-not-counting-presidential-votes-in-spain/

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fact-check-does-soros-own-an-overseas-company-that-will-count-u-s-votes/

    http://www.humanevents.com/2012/05/09/scytl-voter-fraud-facts-and-fiction/

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:58 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Hah, funniest post I have read for quite a spell. My DOG has more integrity that that ignoramous, Owe-Blame-O, ever had or will have. I wonder how much "class" he had with his buddies at the gay bath houses in Chicago? How much "class" he had doing drugs? How much "class" he has blaming everyone for his failures? If this is your definition of "class", I am delighted you don't think Romney has any. I am still trying to figure out what leadership qualities you speak of? Oh yeah, he lead the gay community to be proud. Sorry, overlooked that one.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:49 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    I wonder if laundering money for the drug cartels is worse than selling arms and ammo to the drug cartels that winds murdering hundreds, including a US Border Patrol Officer. Obama, Holder, et al should be criminally prosecuted.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:33 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    Folks, nothing of substance here.

    Just more partisan drivel from the comments section's #1 political operative!!!!

    [sleeping][yawn][sleeping]

    ZZZZZZzzzzz......

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:02 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    American solar companies are on the skids. Didn't help that Harry Reid, Obama's buddy in Nevada, purchased solar panels from China for the solar farm established at Nellis AFB. But I supposed his son, who happens to be a lobbyist for the Chinese solar firm, had absolutely nothing to do with that decision. This is the same Reid that supposedly had a fit when he discovered the USA Olympic uniforms weren't manufactured in America. Like his boss, he is a hypocritic stooge.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:40 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Please document your allegations please.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:34 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    call Soros a communist in the above post

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:32 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I do not know if what you are saying is true but anyone is better than Diebold.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:31 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    To compare the relationship of a man who gives you 43 million dollars to win the Presidency with the alleged relationships you mentioned for Obama. is a little much even for you. He had no close relationship with any of them.

    Also every time you call someone like Soros( a billionaire many times over) what you doing is shouting to the world what an idiot you are but then again you are probably an Allen West supporter.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:28 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Heuer... is this historian (Kengor) that wrote about Reagan, Clinton, and now Obama telling lies as well? This information was in the movie 2016 as well...it appears that everything in the movie is well researched and documented. Your claim is absurd at best.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:26 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Joe, excellent list...to add to yours... ( people around Obama)

    Kengor, a professor at Grove City College and a bestselling author, recently spoke to The Jewish Press about "The Communist"...

    The Jewish Press: Your whole book is about one relatively obscure man, Frank Marshall Davis. Why should anyone care about him?

    Kengor: Well, if you want to understand any president, you look at his mentor or mentors. I’ve done several biographies of figures as diverse as Ronald Reagan and Hilary Clinton, and it’s just a no-brainer.

    So for people who want to know how President Obama can be so clearly on the left, I would argue that a mentor like Frank Marshall Davis, who was a member of Communist Party USA, helps explains that.

    Is it clear that Davis was Obama’s mentor?

    Yes, and it’s not only my opinion. In the very start of the book, I quote about a dozen different Obama and Davis biographers – people who are sympathetic [to Davis and Obama] – and they all describe Davis’s relationship with Obama in a mentor-like way.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:26 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Obama now claims he was born to a "single" mother. He previously stated his mother was married to Obama Senior and were still married when O Sr left them, when he was 2 years old, in Hawaii to go to Harvard. Was he lying in the book or is he lying now? Oh well, either way, just another Obama lie. This guy is a sociopathic liar and by now he doesn't even know the truth. Eventually it will all be revealed and the people who supported this fraud will feel pretty stupid.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:20 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Just what part of the film are you able to substantiate as false?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:14 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...What proof do you have for your "compassion and guilt." You ARE more ignorant that I originally thought.

    Sorry Ms Bobin, you misread my post...again...or are you simply ignorant.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:12 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    The mere fact that George Soros pledged $5 million to help defeat Allen West makes me think the man is a genuine threat to helping Soros transform America into a socialist nation. I hope Soros winds up wasting his money.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:11 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Oh.. if I used Ms Bobin's thinking, I would have to accuse you of being all about race since he is an African American... is that your concern, that is he black, or is it you do not like his politics?

    Are you a racist Mr Lucas? Personally, I do not think you are but since the left accuses people on the right of being racist because they do not appreciate Obama, the question must be asked, are you are racist when you criticize an African American like west?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:05 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Heuer...was it Obama's brother that lied in the movie? Was it Obama's father's best friend who lied? Was it Obama's grandparents that hired Davis as Obama;s mentor for 8 years?

    I am confused as to exactly who lied. This was a video where interviews were conducted. These were people who president Obama identified as inportant to who he is today which he wrote in his book, Dreams From my Father in 1995.

    Or are you saying Obama lied in his own book? Maybe if you actually saw the movie, you wouldn't post such uninformed and incorrect statements making yourself appear very foolish.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:00 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    So, Thomas, did you actually SEE 2016 or is your opinion of the film formed by what the liberal stooges you see on your TV tell you what your opinion should be?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:51 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Have you ever wondered why Obama sold the contract to count AMERICAN votes to a company in Spain? Will American voters have the assurance that all will be on the "up and up" and there will be some way to verify the outcome? Or is this why this process is being handled out of our borders. Another ugly first for American democracy. Apparently there are no entities in America that can handle that job? And he has the gall to accuse Romney of "outsourcing"

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:43 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Bobbin babbles on about Romney and Sheldon Adelson "palin around with crooks". Hmmm, seems she has forgotten about Owe-Blame-O's pals. To name a few:
    Tony Rezko - In prison
    Rod Blagojevich - In prison
    Jon Corzine - Under FBI investigation
    Shervin Neman - Accused of $7.85 Million Ponzi scheme
    Courtney Dupree - Convicted of $21 Million bank fraud
    Bill Ayers - Convicted terrorist bomber & self avowed communist
    George Soros - Communist, socialist wanting America to become socialist.
    But, ya see, you just have to put these characters in Obama's life out of your mind and concentrate on Romney tax records and his offshore accounts, much more critical than Obama's criminal and communist pals.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:14 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Hey John its real typical of someone who belives Obama 2016 was a PBS documentary and had any merit. Alan West is a joke. Also Colin Powell is a surprise since he didn't always tow the line.
    Also DB said "I have long supported black people and appreciate their contribution to society." Does this strike you as condesending or contrived?
    I'm out of here for now.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:00 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Again with the intellectually challenged box office swindle Obama2016. You really enjoy denigrating yourself. Obama elected out of compassion and guilt? Anyone who watched that movie and came away with anyting credible is truely HOODWINKED AND GULLIBLE. Only the ignorant thought it was anything other than the sham it was. You have now gone to the nether world where Andrew dwells. You only have to watch the news to recognize what reality is. This is why it is easy to convince conservatives voter fraud is a serious problem. Only conservatibes believe we need constitutional amendments to prevent sharia law.Only conservatives believe higher education is a waste of money. Only conservatives would believe the POTUS is plotting against them. Only conservatives would believe unions are a threat to the country. Yet as their pay checks get smaller or small business scratches their head wondering where their customers went can't make the connection its all about the middle class stupid. Only conservative believe Orvile Norquist is stirking a blow for freedom. Only conservatives would believe we have turned our back on Israel. Understanding the plight of the Palestinians is not anti-jewish. When you realize their country was split in half and the beach front property went to Israel and you got the desert you get a different perspective. Its like the powers to be decided to give California and its beach fronts and warm water ports to another group and pushed us to Nevada. It is the biggest imminent domain move but we still don't know by what authority. Israel is a good ally and that can't be taken away. In 2016 I saw bits and pieces of selected fact often out of context or placed clervly next to a conveniet commentator allows incomplete facts or by innuendo lets "You decide" as the movie promises. Of couse fact-less conservatives are allowed to fill in the blanks as they see fit. Hence they see just what they want to see. Chumps one and all. It was as predictable as Darrell and I waited till it was on $4.50 Tue so DeSouza won't even be able to buy himself a snickers. Oh wait he already has plenty of snickers.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:46 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    You admire Allen West. Wow. I so not even have to comment on that one

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:03 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Not my words, Mr. Baumbach - you comically added the "that are not really there."

    What proof do you have for your "compassion and guilt." You ARE more ignorant that I originally thought.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:58 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Mr Heuer, I rarely refer to a person as bigoted as I do not see bigots around every corner like Ms Bobin claims.

    But after viewing your post where (you) an anti-Tea Party person like yourself intentionally disparages people by calling them teabaggers, a reasonable person would understand that you are one of few people Ms Bobin does not imagine and actual does see around a corner.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:52 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Ms Bobin stated...And so funny that you finally got Mr. Baumbach to admit it's all about race...

    How funny Ms Bobin would draw that silly conclusion... just as she comically sees bigots around every corner that are not really there...( her words not mine)...

    When I was referring to President Obama being elected because he was black, I was talking about a number of people who felt compassion and guilt who the press reported voted for this man because of our history of slavery. Had it not been for this support and compassion, Hilary Clinton would have won the nomination and likely defeated McCain. ( according to the press, not me)

    I have long supported black people and appreciate their contribution to society. It was the black vote that overwhelmingly voted for proposition 8 in California. It is black people I have met who show compassion to others because they had suffered injustice during there life time.

    I so much admire Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Walter Williams, Martin Luther King, Sr , Alan Keyes, Mia Love, Ward Connerly, Herman Cain, Allen West, Alveda King, Ken Hamblin, and Condoleezza Rice that demonstrated great skill and wonderful contributions to our society.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:43 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    inappropriate mocking" babble! [smile]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:28 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    You have quite the imagination Mr Lucas... When I said "guess what would happen" you immediately assumed I would behave like a trucker or some construction hot head... actually, I have never been in a fight and if in the situation I described would gently ask, how long have you been a bigot...smile, then walk away to leave the bigot to his own behavior.

    Ill leave the violence and macho stuff to people like yourself that assume violence is the natural response. When I described what others might do, I was simply relating what one sees when observing union thugs and liberal activists...not me...

    If you personally called me a tea bagger to my face, and I knew you were Mr Lucas, I would laugh and giggle as anything you might say has little value or merit.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:59 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Joanne I give you bigots which you of course already knew.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:57 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    OK so you are now showing yourself to have so little credibility you cannot ever be taken as anything but pure partisan hack. If you believe that the hit piece Obama 2016 is evidence it only shows you to be either a gullible stooge or a totally partisan hack despite the facts. Denesh DeSousa is a huckster playing on racial biases and those alternate realities of Fox/Limbaugh fed conservatives. There is no credible evidence in that film. Since you say you watch C-Spans Book TV maybe you heard DeSousa talk about his book and movie. The presentaion was picked and stiched to make you think you are getting some kind of inside scoop. That is always a give away. It doesn't meet the reality check nor the smell test. That Obama has motives from his father to diminish the US stature in the world. Really this is already happening with globalizaation starting long before Obama, the economic crash from repub dereg, our credit rating drop caused by repubs obstructionism, so why should we worry about Obama? I didn't vote for Obama because he was black. I don't elect novelties like Sarah Palin. Of the candidates for president I leaned to Hillary but saw a strong needed character in Obama. Many kids voted for Obama who don't carry the "relieve their guilt vote" the movies tried to suggest. It was totally laughable. Of course it played on the racial fears conservatives have over muslims and suggested there was low support for Israel. Bunk. United States of Muslim? Really? I can't speak enough on how this movie has played you for a sucker and got your money. And the racial bias I was talking about was your reference to the muslim brotherhood not Obama. But now since you mentioned him and the 2016 movie I rest my case. So now you can push your Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers, name association and try to create a denigrating image of those who dissagree with you but it won't change the fact that you have no credible judgement. And BTW are you being threatening?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:21 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Mr Heuer is not being bigoted. Degrading someone because of race, gender, sexual preference is bigotry. Being disgusted and speaking out about the mindless stupidity of teabaggers is being descriptive of the reality of the teabagger mindset.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:21 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Well said, Mr. Heuer. And so funny that you finally got Mr. Baumbach to admit it's all about race. Next angry white man to break will be one moustachioed individual.

    What Mr. Baumbach refuses to believe is that Obama was elected, not BECAUSE he has a black countenance, but in SPITE of it - a better choice over John McCain and his comedic sidekick.

    But thanks to his revealing rant - we now know it IS all about RACE.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:10 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Darrell You are truly an idiot. If President Obama was white he would have won in 2008 in a landslide and the same is true today. He has more class, intelligence, and leadership qualities in his pinkie than Mittens has in his whole body

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:04 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Ms Bobin stated...We are supposed to worry about President Obama receiving a book from Hugo Chavez as a diplomatic courtesy?

    Of course we should not worry. You missed the point as it went over your head as normal... I was responding to the letter in which Mr Baker asserted that president Obama never takes advise from "anyone". I never suggested that anyone should worry about anything. Just an objective observation.

    As was reported, President Obama appreciated the warm and friendly enchange of ideas and thoughts Chevez offered. Its like they are blood brothers or something of that nature. In addition, Obama enthusiasticly supported the Muslim brotherhood and even approved of the billions of tax payers dollars to foster the Muslim Brothhood's government's success... so of course Mr Obama listens to others...Mr Baker is mistaken in my opinion.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:04 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    inappropriate mocking" babble! [smile]

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:50 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    M Baker like so many others is misleading in his facts. The investment in solar energy is vital to us in our energy future. To list the companies as bankrupt creats an idea they have failed completely which is not true. Most are going concerns that have filed for cjapter 11 (restructurint) because the industry got a broad side from massive competition from China and other Asian nations. This is reason enough why we should be heavily invested in solar as well as other alternative energy. Employess at most of the listed companies are still employed during this restructure. We continue to use these situations as political attack poins distracting us again from what is fall behind in the global competition. Obamas policies are working and the economies been improving. As I think Edison or someone said you learn more from your mistakes than your successes. Geo Washington lost most of his battles (and money) before he started winning. Same with Abe Lincoln. WWII. Space race. It seems to be the American way.

    Congress is working on its own defense cuts (sequester) so its not clear how Obama is selected for such exagerated claims. Defense is a broad subject from tanks and aircraft carrier to technology and surrveilance. Our military for good or for ill has been engaged in more wars and skirmishes than any other country. What other country can match our experience? Who coould be more ready for conflict? America spends $700billion annually on defense. The second highest is China at only $70bil. Who then do you think is better equiped? Who could possibly be a threat? If we cut some from defense do we loose our expertise or our vastly superior advantage? There have been ongoing efforts to reduce nuclear weapons even by Regan. We are more likely to see rogue nuclear threats with no target location than a threat from a country. Korea has no delivery capability and Iran doesn't have any w-nuclear weapons. This is all chicken litle hysteria.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:14 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Mr Heuer stated... The deplorable tea baggers at taking every attempt to diminish our president by either appealing to racial bias in this country

    How do I respond to this despicable post?

    If an African American is having a conversation with another African American, and brings up the N word , it will be taken as a “term of endearment” If a White middle age man uses the N word in a conversation with an Afican American, it is likely to be considered hate speech and a likely fight would follow.

    In that spirit, If two acquainted tea party members are having a conversation and the term “teabagger” comes up, it is likely to be seen as a “term of endearment”. However, if an anti-tea party zealot like Mr Heuer or Schmidt refers to a tea party member as a “teabagger”, it then becomes inflammatory hate speech and a likely fight will result. If you said that to my face, guess what would happen?

    May I ask Mr Heuer, why are you so bigoted?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:11 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    We really SHOULD be worried about Willard Romney's association with and willingness to accept money from Sheldon Adelson. Talk about "paling around with" crooks!!

    Adelson has given or will give 43 MILLION dollars to the Romney election effort and in return is expected to benefit by a 2 BILLION tax cut when Willard passes his pay-off to the wealthy. And they say back room deals are dead!

    Adelson's "man in China is under investigation for bribing Chinese officials in order to obtain the permits Adelson needs for his casinos.

    Executives in Adelson's Sands conglomerate are under investigation for laundering money for Mexican Drug Cartels.

    Adelson had shady dealings with former House speaker DeLay, now serving a prison sentence.

    Adelson owns an Israeli newspaper - between Willard Romney's cozy relationship with Bibi, and now Sheldon, US-Israeli relations will receive a boost in the unlikely event of Willard's election as POTUS.

    Even YOU must agree, Mr. Baumbach, that BILLIONS in the hand are much better than a history book in the bush.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:03 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Mr Heuer stated...You want to know a couple of things that are destructive to our politics?
    Your continued cooperation with the deplorable tea baggers at taking every attempt to diminish our president by either appealing to racial bias in this country

    In my view, you clearly are moronic in your conclusion in this one instant. President Obama was elected because he was black... not because of his experience and leadership. If what you are saying had "any" truth to it, Hilary Clinton would now be our first woman president. White Americans love this man and were enthusiastic about his hope and change message in 2008.

    People who dislike this president passionately do so because of his politics and policies which more resembles communism than a democratic republic America was supposed be be. Instead, Obama vowed to transform America into what he wants it to be... if you watch the movie 2016, there is ample evidence that he wants a world that is more fair from his perspective. He wants an international level playing field. He does not want what America has become and he will transform it.

    Therefore, his being black has nothing to do with why people oppose him. In contrast, being black earned him his position over Hillary Clinton.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:55 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    We are supposed to worry about President Obama receiving a book from Hugo Chavez as a diplomatic courtesy? It must have been a book by Chavez which details how Obama can turn the US into a dictatorship under Obama's rule, right?

    Oh, that's right...it was a history book: "a copy of "The Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent," a book by Eduardo Galeano, which chronicles U.S. and European economic and political interference in the region."

    Scary!!!

    And why is it that when I Google the claim about "billions to the Muslim Brotherhood," I only come up with extremist and racist websites that make this claim about Obama bypassing Congress to give "billions?"

    You are turning into a complete and utter joke. Must have gotten that online subscription to American Thinker and Liberty News...or is it "Before It's News?"

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 8:25 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Darrell
    You want to know a couple of things that are destructive to our politics?
    Your continued cooperation with the deplorable tea baggers at taking every attempt to diminish our president by either appealing to racial bias in this country or creating an image of "he's different", "hes not one of us" "he is a radical (ala 60s" it is pathetic as well as destructive to our country.

    You condone antiAmericanactivities like voter suppression as do the vile tea baggers with their "True the Vote" attempts to intimidate voters. This is the problem of hysterical conservatives who believe their own political hyperbole to the point that they can't believe there could possibly be another opinion or they believe they need to steal an election from the wrong headed masses. Of course these are the same who stole an election to give us G Bush 43 and even many of them now say yes what a mistake that was. They don't even have him at their convention as the dems had Clinton. What could possibly be wrong with acepting a book? Isn't the Muslim Brotherhood the dempcraticly elected leaders of Egypt we are hopeing to maintain diplomatic ties through their trials?
    So again we are faced with conservatives trying to steal an election (they have a hard time winning otherwise) based on y supressing the vote and appealing to the intellectually challenged with the so called "Southern Strategy". Discusting

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:51 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Mr Baker stated...Our president won't take advice from anyone

    Non-sense... He gladly accepted a book from Chevez and listened to his advisor and agreed to give billions to the Muslim Brotherhood... he listens just fine, and follows his heart

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:34 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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    Yes we need to go back to losing 800,000 jobs a month, an auto industry on its knees, banks failing, a near collapse of the financial industry and so much more. Instead of invading Iraq and costing thousand of lives and wounded we could invade Iran this time and maybe we could have even a bigger terrorist attack this that the biggest we ever had in the last administration. Yes those were the good old days when Republican conservatives ruled the land. You are kidding right?

     

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