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Letter: We must deal with Islamic State now, not later

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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:00 am

This is it! The last hurrah! After announcing his decision to remove our troops from Iraq, the president has backed himself into an untenable corner and is now pressed with the realization that any decision he makes will surely reflect badly on his many failed attempts to negotiate with an enemy — an enemy that daily grows stronger by feeding on the shallow rhetoric of a leader who lacks the capacity to deal with such extremely complex matters.

For the president to now openly admit that we are engaged in a war is to admit that he made a monumental error when he announced to the world that we had defeated the terrorists and the war had been won. Bush’s war was over! What do you suppose they might call this war?

Strange how politics can trump good judgment. If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck ...

Make no mistakes, we are at war with Islamic State. Calling it anything else, for many Americans, is to deny the awful reality that we are yet again at war. Once you start dropping 500-pound bombs on an adversary and killing their troops (as we have), you’ve irrevocably crossed the semantics line of bloviating.

On the plus side, if there is a plus side in any war, we have a ready and well-trained corps of all-volunteer military and a world domination of air power to ensure we enter the battle prepared. What we must have is the decisive and courageous leadership needed for such an undertaking.

The leaders of the Islamic State have made it abundantly clear that if you are not of their faith, you had best move on or be eradicated. Their goal is not just the Middle East, but much more. Our choice now is to face up to their challenge now or wait to until later when our offspring will have to face the same — if not even bigger — threats.

We need to face up to the threat now! Leaving future generations with this very serious problem, plus a $17.5 trillion mountain of debt, is more than we can morally justify.

Richard Viall


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  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:45 am on Sat, Aug 23, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2110

    I'll take my new to me 2005 springer softail Harley.

    Or my bicycle ;-)

  • Ed Walters posted at 7:16 pm on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    I seldom agree with anyone, however Paglia got it right, ISIS is a major threat, and at the present time they continue to grow. The bombing of a few cars or a bus as he says only strengthens their cause. They compare to Genghis Kan when it comes to barbarism, Kans hoards annihilated everything in their way and it wasn`t until he died the power he had slowly diminished due to infighting between his sons.

    Glad we can still pick any car and any color we want. Have a wonderful weekend [beam]

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 6:43 pm on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1672

    Your "As for ISIS, ANYTHING the West does to stop them will only strengthen their cause. The action HAS to come from the Middle Eastern Islamic states to stop the barbarism. Unfortunately I don't see that happening."

    Thanks for confirming the need for us to act because the Middle Eastern will is lacking to stop the barbarism. And that's why I vote for annihilation which will diminish their cause. Even Al-Qaeda found ISIS extreme. ISIS is now living on their mythology that they are somehow invincible and that myth needs to be broken. We've already convinced the Kurds.

    And I am usually anti war.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:02 pm on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    Yeah, its easy to say that a Jag is a nice ride but the real question is what are you going to drive the 364 days a year that it is in the shop.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 4:10 pm on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2110

    Steve and Ed, you two are very wrong, If you are talking cars NOTHING beats the Jaguar XK120. I'll put the Jag FX Coupe supercharged against any other car out there. (Mine would be in Emerald Blue)

    As as for that 70 year old lady riding a HOG, I have rode with a couple of them and after a lifetime of being told they "couldn't", they hit their "Golden years" and decided to live the life THEY want, not the life OTHER want for them. And they are some of the most fun 70 year olds out there, IMO.

    As for ISIS, ANYTHING the West does to stop them will only strengthen their cause. The action HAS to come from the Middle Eastern Islamic states to stop the barbarism. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:36 pm on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Ed to each his own, enjoy your ride and have a good weekend.

  • Ed Walters posted at 2:57 pm on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    Schmidt: beauty or anything else is in the eye of the beholder, some people like black cars and others red. When Henry Ford made the Model T Ford, you could have it in any color you wanted---- as long as it was black Concerning insecurities, the ultimate in that area is a 70 year old woman riding a HOG that weighs 5 times as much as she does, as you can see people have to prove a point, even if it kills them, and many times it does. I road motors for 30 years, wouldn`t dare get on one now. Anything out of a box that will do 180 MPH + is not for me. Can we at least agree on that? A new Vette is still open for debate. Come on----- give me a break

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:42 am on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    I like that "Mercedes are for old guys" and you are a young guy?
    Anyway just for fun I looked at the new Corvettes and completely tricked out with every option available the most I could spend was $85,000 while the top of the line Mercedes sedan completely pimped came in at $175,000. So I suppose Jien is right. My personal favorite a BMW (now there's a class ride) top of the line sedan lists at $141,000 and has very few options the most I could get it for was $147,000. Ah to dream I suppose I'll be stuck with VWs and Volvos for life.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 8:03 am on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    Yeah, I concur with the other posters regarding the Corvettes. While a classic 70s Stingray might be a thing of beauty, the Vettes made after 1982 just leave me wondering about the owners insecurities.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 8:02 am on Fri, Aug 22, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    Ed, Clinton's impeachment only served to make Clinton more popular while thoroughly discrediting the Republican Congress as reflected both by opinion polls and the results of the subsequent congressional elections. Impeachment was a debacle for Gingrich, who thought he would take the Presidency from Clinton and instead lost his own job.

  • Jien Kaur posted at 10:16 pm on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    Jien Kaur Posts: 377

    Mr Ed Walters you seem to be the sensitive about the many issues and you like to use this words - I already count five times in recent comments words like 'at my age I have forgot more that you will ever know about America,' to make your the most and more intelligent. I not realize this comments here for the purpose of competition to intelligence or wealthy or possessions like you seem to make.

    No matter the 100,000 dollar corvette - from your picture that not the corvette you have. I do not have the most expense mercedes that is 300,000 dollar - more modest mercedes that is safe and comfortable for the family.

    But if make you feel better I tell you you are so smart rich and intelligent. Better now? And even you no care about India the very much you should because that where too many jobs from America go. What should you do to stop that I wonder. You fast car won't go to fast to get away from the fact of that.

  • M. Doyle posted at 8:07 pm on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    M Doyle Posts: 188

    Jien Kaur, your words above may be the best comment ever posted at LNS. Please keep at it.

  • Ed Walters posted at 3:00 pm on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    Schmidt: Lets look at the reason Clinton was popular, first and foremost the country was not in a shoot war during his reign, second and also very popular, Silicon Valley was in full bloom putting more money in the treasury than could be spent. His popularity would have been much higher if it were not for that stain on a blue dress, and impeached for lying to congress, since he perjured himself ,only the second President to be impeached. And behind closed doors, though we will never know, what did Hillary think. You state the Republican Congress is wildly unpopular, the government as a whole isn`t very popular. Now I will go fill the glass to over flowing, OH and Schmidt, remember, just like the Alamo, remember the countries debt to itself that will never be paid off, the interest on a daily basis is unbelievable. With all that Barry has on his plate at the present time, I believe 911 will always be first, as lies and riots fade away from memory. One more Schmidt, were are you on the glass scale, half full or half empty? Keep in mind that you have to have a half empty glass to support the upper half, seems I am holding you up. [wink]

  • Walter Chang posted at 1:58 pm on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1187

    "Corvette to impress - not so much"


  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:41 pm on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Very funny Jien your crackin me up.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:16 pm on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1672

    Ms Kaur
    You have a marvelous way with words. No joke.
    However if you are not impressed with his car maybe you should see his barn. That is a joke to Mork, I mean Ed from another thread.

  • Ed Walters posted at 12:26 pm on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    Kaur: It is evident that you are not up to the humor Americans take for granted. Before you set foot on American soil, a TV program titled Mork and Mindy took over as being the # 1 program on TV thanks to the now deceased Robin Williams. Your loss. If you are up to date on the debt Americans Presidents leave when they leave office, all due. At 10 trillion, it took President Bush to 8 years to accomplish this figure, since he came into office with a 6 trillion in the countries debt. In less than 6 years, Obama has increased the debt over 7 trillion, with 2 years left to go as President. Concerning impressing anyone, the only person I have to impress is myself and members of the local Vette club. The top of the line for a 2014 Vette is over $100,000, you have alot to learn, at my age I have forgot more that you will ever know about America, and I could care less about India, only that there are people there that speak bad English while attempting to answer my computer questions. Concerning Mercedes, a dime a dozen, no one looks at a Mercedes since it is an old persons car that is way over priced and cost a small fortune to work on. Vettes get looks not only from woman, but guys also, that wish they had one. Power, performance, ahhhh but then you wouldn`t know about that, especially with a 6 speed tranny, you would even be impressed with a 50` burn out.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 8:17 am on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    Ed, you strike me as a glass half empty sort of guy. The President's approval rating may not put him in Clinton Country but it still makes the Executive Branch the most popular branch of government well ahead of the wildly unpopular Republican Congress.

    That said, my comment was more about Mr Vetica's endorsement of the President's policies than his standing in the polls.

  • Jien Kaur posted at 6:20 am on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    Jien Kaur Posts: 377

    So sorry mr Mork. You made the mock of my English in a former comment and said you were the 'Mork from Ork'. I believe you word not thinking this was lie.

    I did not say of 17 trillion dead. I mean very clear 17 trillion debt like the mr Viall has written in his letter - not his 'post' which would be very very different. The president Bush left the office with more than 10 trillion of dollars debt but the mr Viall make claim it all due to the president Obama.

    You may think to make impress with you auto? Corvette is very cheap auto in world of luxurious cars. The mercedes I own now much more luxury and expense plus funny of the elderly man love to drive the Corvette to impress - not so much.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 2:39 am on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1672

    Ms Kaur you are absolutely correct.

  • Ed Walters posted at 8:43 pm on Wed, Aug 20, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    Schmidt, from your post you are on the wrong side of the limb, concerning the endorsement of the President, at an approval rate of 34% doesn`t sound like a resounding endorsement, with with is on his plate at the present time. Events around the world are not in his favor, the latest being the beheading of that journalist, then a riot he somehow must bring under control. ISIS is the Gangis Kan of this century, I doubt anything will stop them and they will kill anything that gets in their way.

  • Ed Walters posted at 2:36 pm on Wed, Aug 20, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    Kaur: You state that many countries were against the invasion of Iraq. For the record Kaur, the Congress of the United State were OK with it, including Rodham Clinton along with John Kerry. The main focus was to remove Saddam from power, until the war went very wrong, even the Iraqi people were for the removal of the butcher of Bagdad. Perhaps you should read Vialls post again, he refers that 17 trillion in dollars in debt, not lives lost.

    Bill O'Riley use of the word bloviating has gone viral, you must be a constant viewer of his program, see your smarter already. Check my Avatar and you will find my proper name, along with my Corvette. I am not Mork [cool]

  • Jien Kaur posted at 12:47 pm on Wed, Aug 20, 2014.

    Jien Kaur Posts: 377

    I was not here in UniteD States in time when the president Bush call for invasion of the Iraq. Many countrys were very very against him. Many problems today evolve from his plan and many people die and will continue to be and many the 17 trillion that the mr Viall seem to laugh today is from the president Bush wars and many lie to American public.

    Thank you to the mr Viall for the word 'bloviating' that the mr Bill O'Riley use many times in his program. I wonder if all idea for this letter really come from the O'Riley the program because sound very the familiar this.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:04 pm on Wed, Aug 20, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1672

    There has never been a similar situation where I truly felt simultaneous disgust, malice and revulsion toward a group of people as I do for ISIS . Annihilation is my only solution for dealing with the vermin. They have no cause or injustice to warrant their heinous actions. They are the extreme religious hypocrites who enslave and murder in the name of a religion. I have for once no mercy. And yes I'm glad we have a president who will act intelligently and deal decisively with them even if he doesn't fulfill my desire for extermination.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:58 am on Wed, Aug 20, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    The President has provide swift and decisive action in dealing with ISIS and their taking of the Mosul Dam. Is that what you were looking for Richard?

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:01 am on Wed, Aug 20, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    I am just going to go out on a limb here and guess that Mr Viall REALLY doesn't like the President of the United States. The funny thing is that, once you strip away all the expressions of distaste, this letter is actually a resounding endorsement of the President's actions.


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