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Posted: Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:00 am

President Obama warns the nation that if he doesn’t get his way with debt ceiling increases, then Social Security checks will be in danger of not being paid on time. This is an outright lie!

By federal statute these checks must be paid, and on time. This program has at the present enough money in it to last up to 2038. Obama is lying to you again.

This miserable excuse for a president also tells us that if nothing is done about the debt ceiling by Oct. 17, our nation will, for the first time in our history, default. Another outright lie!

This president apparently has so much disdain for the Constitution — and us — that he doesn’t or has never read it. The nation’s interest on our debts must be paid for first. We have more revenue (taxes) coming into government coffers than at any time in its history, and according to the GAO we have enough to fund 75 percent of the government with what we have on hand.

This so-called government shutdown has affected about 20 percent of government workers whom the government itself calls non-essential. The government tells us about 40 percent are designated as non-essential. In the private sector the definition of a “non-essential employee” is called “unemployed.”

The GAO also has found $125 billion in fraud and waste in government. By cutting non-essential employees from the government and stopping government fraud and waste, we could easily survive not raising our debt limit and have a leaner, more responsive government.

Warren Buffett, whom Obama loves to quote, has said that the nation could go on for a year without a debt limit increase without any major problems. This president is a pathological liar who makes Bill Clinton look like an altar boy.

Ron Portal

Lodi

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7 comments:

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:09 am on Tue, Oct 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Apparently the president thinks he can furlough reality when talking about the debt limit. To suggest that raising the debt limit doesn’t incur more debt is laughably absurd. The very reason why you raise the debt limit is so that you can incur more debt. Otherwise what’s the point?

    It’s also shameful to see him scaremongering the markets with his talk of default. There is no way we can default if we follow the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4, requires that we service our debt first. We currently collect more than enough tax revenue to service our debt if we do that first. However, we don’t have enough money to continue to finance our ever-growing federal government (with our $17 trillion dollar national debt that has increased over 50% since Obama took office). That’s why President Obama wants to increase the debt limit. He doesn’t want to make the tough decisions to rein in government spending. So, he’s scaremongering the markets about default, just as he tries to scaremonger our senior citizens about their Social Security, which, by the way, is funded by the Social Security Trust Fund and is solvent through 2038.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:58 am on Sun, Oct 13, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Where do the states get the funds? The tooth fairy?
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:21 am on Sun, Oct 13, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Wonder no more, Joe.

    It's because "welfare" checks come from the state governments, not the federal government.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:04 pm on Sat, Oct 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    As usual you do not get your facts straight. It is not the President who is shutting down the government, threatening a default or sending out checks of any kind. This is the doing of Republican party and no one else. The shutting down of the government and the default can be avoided anytime they want. THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO SO.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:55 pm on Sat, Oct 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Looks like Ron has been watching and reading the Conservative fantasy media such as Fox News, NewsMax, Human Events etc. Perhaps he is getting his information from emails his right wing friends circulate. Lets go over some of his more obvious nonsense.

    Yes Social Security is good till 2038 and good for 80% thereafter if we do nothing. When we pay our Social Security it goes into the Social Security Trust Fund. This money is loaned to the US government in the form of treasury notes. If we default on these notes there will be no money to pay for Social Security checks. The President is not lying.

    If we do not increase the debt ceiling give the treasury department the authority to borrow money by the sometime around the middle of October our intake of funds will be less than the obligations that Congress has signed into law. We will be forced to default on legal obligations already signed into law by the Congress and signed by the President. Again the President is not lying.

    Ron goes on to say the President has disdain for the Constitution or has never read it. There is nothing in the law or the Constitution that says the interest payment be paid first. The Constitution says the executive( The president ) must follow the law. All spending bills are laws and the President would be acting outside the law if he decided which debt he would have to obey and which he would not. Unlike Ron, The President clearly understands the issues involved.

    The list of unessential workers include most of Nasa, food inspectors, most of the EPA, accident inspectors, 90% of the IRS, many in the FBI, Homeland Security, VA people who do intakes on veterans benefits etc. In Ron’s fantasy world it would be delightful for these people and many others to be unemployed. Of course, he would be just like his fellow right wing people who went ballistic over the Washington Memorial being closed or when something he needs cannot be done. He wants his cake and eat it too.

    As to cutting fraud and waste in the Government, cutting so-called non-essential will result in a leaner more responsive government this is something we can work on but for now it is imperative that we increase the debt limit to avoid the catastrophe that will happen if we do not. In the words of Warren Buffet:

    American politicians should cease to use the debt ceiling in their negotiations, U.S. billionaire Warren Buffett said, comparing the practice to a nuclear bomb threat. “It ought to be banned as a weapon.

    Warren Buffett understands the consequences of the policies that Ron Portal and the right wing advocates. It would be a catastrophe.

    As to these statements:

    This miserable excuse for a president
    Obama is lying to you again.
    Another outright lie!
    This president is a pathological liar who makes Bill Clinton look like an altar boy.

    These are across the line. Ron, though his politics are crazy is a good guy. He, like his right wing counterparts , actually believe this nonsense. That is the scary part.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:29 am on Sat, Oct 12, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    I have often wondered why Obama always threatens that SS checks won't be sent. He NEVER threatens welfare checks won't be sent. Silly me, I forgot, those are "his" people, the ones that voted him to office.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:43 am on Sat, Oct 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Looks like Ron has been watching and reading the Conservative fantasy media such as Fox News, NewsMax, Human Events etc. Perhaps he is getting his information from emails his right wing friends circulate. Lets go over some of his more obvious nonsense.

    Yes Social Security is good till 2038 and good for 80% thereafter if we do nothing. When we pay our Social Security it goes into the Social Security Trust Fund. This money is loaned to the US government in the form of treasury notes. If we default on these notes there will be no money to pay for Social Security checks. The President is not lying.

    If we do not increase the debt ceiling give the treasury department the authority to borrow money by the sometime around the middle of October our intake of funds will be less than the obligations that Congress has signed into law. We will be forced to default on legal obligations already signed into law by the Congress and signed by the President. Again the President is not lying.

    Ron goes on to say the President has disdain for the Constitution or has never read it. There is nothing in the law or the Constitution that says the interest payment be paid first. The Constitution says the executive( The president ) must follow the law. All spending bills are laws and the President would be acting outside the law if he decided which debt he would have to obey and which he would not. Unlike Ron, The President clearly understands the issues involved.

    The list of unessential workers include most of Nasa, food inspectors, most of the EPA, accident inspectors, 90% of the IRS, many in the FBI, Homeland Security, VA people who do intakes on veterans benefits etc. In Ron’s fantasy world it would be delightful for these people and many others to be unemployed. Of course, he would be just like his fellow right wing people who went ballistic over the Washington Memorial being closed or when something he needs cannot be done. He wants his cake and eat it too.

    As to cutting fraud and waste in the Government, cutting so-called non-essential will result in a leaner more responsive government this is something we can work on but for now it is imperative that we increase the debt limit to avoid the catastrophe that will happen if we do not. In the words of Warren Buffet:

    American politicians should cease to use the debt ceiling in their negotiations, U.S. billionaire Warren Buffett said, comparing the practice to a nuclear bomb threat. “It ought to be banned as a weapon.

    Warren Buffett understands the consequences of the policies that Ron Portal and the right wing advocates. It would be a catastrophe.

    As to these statements:

    This miserable excuse for a president
    Obama is lying to you again.
    Another outright lie!
    This president is a pathological liar who makes Bill Clinton look like an altar boy.

    These are across the line. I could call Ron a liar but that would not be true and though his politics are crazy he is a good guy. He, like his right wing counterparts ,actually believe their nonsense. That is the scary part.

     

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