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• Sue Taylor posted at 1:36 pm on Wed, Oct 31, 2012.

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  Conspiracy? Right out of Nancy Pelosi's mouth:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUBwIJWH7ew&feature=player_embedded

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• Doug Chaney posted at 8:14 am on Tue, Oct 30, 2012.

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  The Sentinel can't afford to print a Monday edition, but yet throwa their free advertiser, many of which are still there on Friday, to many residences and businesses that don't want them? Subscribers pay for this freebie then are left without a Monday paper. Where are those 13,000 subscribers?

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• Doug Chaney posted at 4:22 pm on Mon, Oct 29, 2012.

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  I merely used a figure from the day the insert machine broke down, with Marty's own apology saying friends, neighbors and employees had to do inserts for 7000 papers. Does that 13,000 include the paperbooxes, which usually always have papers left in them, and the junk mail Wednesday advertiser I keep tripping over when I walk early in the morning before daylight and see in the gutters where they are kicked or thrown by those who don't want them? I thought the city ordinance prohibited advertising or or any circulars from being placed on public sidewalks or private property, especially sidewalks and private drives?

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• Simon Birch posted at 11:24 am on Mon, Oct 29, 2012.

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  Doug: The paid circulation of the Lodi News-Sentinel, which is audited, is around 13,000. I can get you the precise number if you're interested in being accurate the next time you post something about our subscribers.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 8:50 am on Mon, Oct 29, 2012.

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  Interesting that "Defend Rural America" is promoted by a bunch of extreme right-wing militia groups. Why am I not surprised with the tie-in to the TEA Party and militias?

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• Doug Chaney posted at 7:56 am on Mon, Oct 29, 2012.

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  Maybe more Lodians would know or care about how the city if Lodi is being managed by a few corrupted councilmen, with their 7AM Tuesday morning council meetings with agendas they seem to be trying to hide from the residents of Lodi by merely knowing that they and paid city staff management, police and fire, who are probably on paid time for all or part of these meetings, know full well that most Lodians find it impossible to be available at 7AM on any weekday morning. The lame excuse given me is these meetings are scheduled to allow those on city council to make it to their regular "jobs" on time. These meetings are for the general public in Lodi to inform them of issues and give them a chance to speak their opinion on those, or any issue, and NOT for the convenience of the city council electorate. There are always meetings at 7PM every other Wednesday that these "shirtsleeve" meetings could be condensed into, allowing most residents to be able to attend. And you wonder why Lodians are uninformed and don't even care? With only 7,000 or so subscribers to the Lodi paper, with most only reading the great sports and panorama/daily living sections which basically cover local Lodians, the possibility of most of those 7,000 seeing the announcement are usually few. Most are worried about protecting their own neighborhoods, not those who live on government subsidies to be successful agriculturists. Why would the agriculturists want to destroy the hand that feeds them with grants, subsidies and entitlements?

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 4:39 am on Mon, Oct 29, 2012.

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  Maybe there are not enough conspiracy theorists in Lodi to even care about your made up issues?

  People are getting tired of the TEA Party, Agenda 21, and all of the other hyped up hysteria they create because they have found it all to be just plain nonsense.

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• Kim Parigoris posted at 8:00 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  Of course the Stockton Record had to tie this in to the Tea Party and Agenda 21, but they could have removed their Tin Foil Hat Repellent Spray because there was no mention of either at the event.

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• Kim Parigoris posted at 7:57 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  Here was an article in the Lodinews on October 17th..there was also one in the Stockton Record about that same day..http://www.lodinews.com/news/article_4b9f4549-2984-541b-b1f4-21196dc1ec5d.html 'I find it hard to believe that neither the Lodi News or the Stockton Record had a reporter there.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:23 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  Kim, I appreciate all the effort, energy and passion you and others are putting into these important issues. They areinteresting and make a difference.

  I think it would be worth the time and effort to brainstorm and develop strategies to increase audience size. I do not know why, but I did not see any ads or publications of the event. I was in Lodion the 20th and could have easily attended if I had known it was an event that day.

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• Kim Parigoris posted at 4:04 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  I know what you mean..it is just that "our side" does not have access to unlimited funds to make all these glamorous brochures, glitzy advertisements. This event was honestly put together by the organizers out of their own pockets. That kind of creativity takes lots of money and we do not have the support of big donors like the environmentalists do. Ford Motor Company, for instance, helps fund the green movement and they are supporting their demise! California Dept of Fish and Game, agencies like the COG, EPA, USDA- all unlimited funds tapping in to the public trough..fancy brochures, DVD's, websites- of beautiful families skipping through fields of flowers and butterflies...but the truth is you will be living in a 900 s.f. condo on the bus line..

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• Eric Barrow posted at 3:57 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  The Lodi News sentinel is as biased paper has I have ever seen. No journalistic morals. No balance. No sense of fair play. Shame on them.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:27 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  I do no think that copying Occupy's strategy of lying to the public is how involvement should be approached

  You missed my point Kim. I was simply giving an example that was current. I would think with a little creativity, this kind of presentation can be coupled with another event in order to increase the audience.

  Of course lying to the public would be inappropriate.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:24 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  where?

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• Kim Parigoris posted at 12:22 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  It was recorded.. it will be available in a few days..

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• Kim Parigoris posted at 11:13 am on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

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  I do no think that copying Occupy's strategy of lying to the public is how involvement should be approached. This event was highly publicized and as Ms Smart said it was totally funded by voluntary means with no outside funding by anyone. The people do not care. I have been in constant contact with people in other states about jurisdiction, Cap and Trade, conservation easements, etc and the consensus seems to be that if people in California want to continue giving up their personal freedoms and property rights, there is no future here. People are sold a bill of goods with easements on their property and will find out in time that they have sold their heirs ability to do with their property, what they want. Conservation easements are perpetual and go with the land. Their property will be inspected regularly, their easements can be sold to a land grabbing organization like the Nature Conservancy, they have no control over what can be done with their land, and their property will be worthless if they decide to sell.. at such point an organization will swoop in and purchase it and turn it in to open space and the public will not even be allowed to use it. The SJ Council of Governments, Inc will own 19 easements after they close the deal on the latest one, part of the old Jack Tone Ranch. It is adjacent to another large one, the Hansen easement so they now have a larger chunk of land to control. Selling their rights to the highest bidder....and they will be like serfs in Midieval England, only they have been bought in to slavery instead of forced in to it..

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:40 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

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  Joy... Have you ever watched C-SPAN. I have watched many politicians talk to a room full of empty chairs, yet make speech after speech.Why did you not record it for viewing later?

  Why? No one attends the speeches yet they do them time after time.

  I think you are missing the boat. You should not be blaming the people for not showing, you should be blaming the strategy of holding the event without creating an attractive event to get the crowd.

  For example, In Breitbarts film, Occupy Wall Street unmasked, he reveals the entire protest began by announcing a concert that thousands would show up... they got the people there with a promise of music in order to address a political concern they had.

  That is why many leaders wait for a parade to begin then jump in front as they then have an audience to communicate to.
  

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