Lodinews.com

default avatar
Welcome to the site! Login or Signup below.
|
||
Logout|My Dashboard

Letter: There is corruption within the IRS

Print
Font Size:
Default font size
Larger font size

Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:00 am

In a recent interview, President Obama stated there is “not a smidgen of corruption” at the IRS. I find this statement to be incredibly false as the Internal Revenue Service, since World War II, has been enforcing the so-called “income tax” solely based upon a coercion of fear thrust upon innocent citizens and residents to volunteer — or else!

That is right, there is no law, rule or regulation anywhere in the United States Code that gives the IRS authority to confiscate businesses, homes, boats, bank accounts, etc. from citizens or residents with source income derived from within the several States of the Union. In fact the only legitimate subjects of the withholding laws as written and published are directed only at nonresident aliens and foreign corporations.

The federal agency IRS does have authority to enforce the revenue laws of a citizen or resident who chooses to apply for a permit to engage in any federal regulated activity under the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm laws. As a matter of fact, this corrupt federal agency uses the BATF laws to enforce the income tax upon innocent citizens. The laws this agency uses may be from Title 26, the Internal Revenue Code, but anyone who takes the time to check finds the implementing regulations are always subject to federally regulated activities under the BATF. These are the facts, folks!

F.W. “Bill” Stamos

Lodi

Rules of Conduct

  • 1 Use your real name. You must register with your full first and last name before you can comment. (And don’t pretend you’re someone else.)
  • 2 Keep it clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually oriented language.
  • 3 Don’t threaten. Threats of harming another person will not be tolerated.
  • 4 Be truthful. Don't lie about anyone or anything. Don't post unsubstantiated allegations, rumors or gossip that could harm the reputation of a person, company or organization.
  • 5 Be nice. No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person.
  • 6 Stay on topic. Make sure your comments are about the story. Don’t insult each other.
  • 7 Tell us if the discussion is getting out of hand. Use the ‘Report’ link on each comment to let us know of abusive posts.
  • 8 Share what you know, and ask about what you don't.
  • 9 Don’t be a troll.
  • 10 Don’t reveal personal information about other commenters. You may reveal your own personal information, but we advise you not to do so.
  • 11 We reserve the right, at our discretion, to monitor, delete or choose not to post any comment. This may include removing or monitoring posts that we believe violate the spirit or letter of these rules, or that we otherwise determine at our discretion needs to be monitored, not posted, or deleted.

Welcome to the discussion.

43 comments:

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 9:11 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1976

    Pretty sure that it WAS 501(c)4's I was commenting on. Let's look at my comment...

    Yup, Specifically mentioned the (4) catagory THREE times. Mentioned the (3) category ZERO times.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:39 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Awww, dang Mike. Sorry to see you quit. You were so much fun.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:38 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    The "hypocrisy" was intentional. Where is the list of successful liberal programs that you claim exist?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:36 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Bobbin, I see how the liberal mind works. When YOU constantly accuse people of only using Fox or other conservative media to form their opinions, it is OK. But when someone accuses YOU of lip syncing the parade of liberal media morons, it is BS? How does that work? Got news for you, I READ a lot and am quite capable of forming my own opinions.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:54 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    So tell me WHICH TEA PARTY chapter does ANYTHING BUT political action?

    Besides, that is 501(c)4 - NOT 501(c)3.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:51 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter wrote: "Bobbin, I never said it had anything to do with President Obama."

    No - but you automatically ASSUMED that the Barack H. Obama Foundation was for the benefit of the President Obama - I don't believe for one minute that you didn't.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:48 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    As a matter of fact, Baxxter, I read a lot and make up my own mind.

    Don't watch Matthews or Schulz - on too early and I WORK, don't watch Maddow (she gives my husband a headache because she talks too fast).

    How about the PBS News Hour? Too liberal also?

    What a lot of BS you like to spread, Baxxter.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:28 am on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1479

    Joe you don't see the hypocrisy in this posting?

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:50 am on Sun, Mar 2, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1976

    Wow, one whole 501(c)? Read my response below and you will see why I am not impressed.

    And your extremist leftist view of anything the Right does taints any claim you make about what you SUSPECT is happening.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:48 am on Sun, Mar 2, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1976

    Christina, I am married to the 501(c) tax codes. My wife is one of the best experts on the code on the West coast, has been dealing with the codes for 15 years, has a LOT of clients from all over the 501(c) spectrum and travels around the country teaching at numerous conferences. She has clients everyone has heard of. My point is that after that much time I have picked u a lot of information on NFP's and know what they go through. Including the approval process and what they have to prove to maintain their status.

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 11:36 am on Sun, Mar 2, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 314

    Thanks, Kevin.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:53 am on Sun, Mar 2, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1363

    Simon.... oh so sorry! I count three and now you and the LNS are out.

    You can explain math to your boss, Rich.

    Good bye.

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 12:16 am on Sun, Mar 2, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 314

    I would love to hear your information, Kevin, but I totally understand what you mean. I haven't followed this whole IRS story in much detail, so I don't really know how a 501c works. All I do know is that they exist on both sides of the political spectrum and they have plenty of influence within both parties. Too much influence and too much money. But, until we can get some serious campaign finance reform (that will actually pass constitutional muster,) such is the nature of the beast. As for this whole investigation, if the IRS is found to have discriminated against certain groups, I certainly hope they will be held accountable.

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 8:16 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 314

    Oh, please don't go there...

    I don't want to picture a bunch of guys sitting around yelling,
    "cat fight" We are all adults here, ok?
    [smile]

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 8:13 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 314

    Really? Is that the nonsense you're spewing today--that I'm conceited enough to think I can play moderator on this forum? I don't think I'm the one with that kind of arrogance here. I was simply making a request of you, not a "rule" for everyone, and I don't think anyone here thinks I was trying to do anything like that.

    And, no, you very often do not respond to many of my comments (still waiting to hear what you thought about the use of social security cards for voter ID) and haven't for some years now. And, yes, you've told me before how you "don't often go back to threads that are several days old"... Honestly, I could care less if you do respond or not, but if you don't want to debate me then I don't want you to use me against others, either. That's all I was saying.

    As for a "personal attack" against you, please don't try to play the victim here. Since my first comment years ago, you have referred to my name in quotation marks--I mean, really? I guess I should be happy you don't refer to me as "Darrell's sister" anymore, but YOU have been attacking me from day one. And that's fine; I'm in good company, I suppose.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:21 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    [thumbup]

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:37 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1976

    501(c)(4) CAN engage in political activities. Obama had 501(c)(4) working for him as well. The (4) subcategory of non-profits allows for political action, as long as it is not their primary function.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/05/13/what-is-a-501c4-anyway/

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:30 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Bobbin, you do know that the Tea Party was granted 501C status, don't you? Funny how it happened, just 24 hours before the Tea Party Patriots would testify before Congress. It is quite apparent the Obama and the IRS didn't want that testimony to happen. Now Lois Lerner is demanding IMMUNITY for her testimony. Immunity from what? Obama says there wasn't "even a smidgen of corruption" in the IRS. Really? The heat is on. Liberals are so gullible.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:55 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Bobbin, I never said it had anything to do with President Obama. I was just relating the difference in preferential treatment by the IRS in granting 501c status. Who is Tucker Carlson? Why do you always insist that every opinion that you don't like must have come from FOX or some other media? Do you get all your opinions from Chris "Tingles" Matthews, Rachel Maddow or Ed Schulz. Wait, don't answer that, I already know that you do.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:53 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    In case you are wondering, Mr. Paglia, I know the tax code quite well - especially the 501(c)3 since I once was the accountant for one here in Lodi and went through the approval process, have done the accounting and the federal reporting for it. I know what they can do and can't do - and believe me, the TEA Party groups who claim tax exemption under this code are violating it left and right - mostly RIGHT.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:00 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter wrote: " I suppose you are just fine with The Barack H. Obama Foundation that is run by Abon’go “Roy” Malik Obama, Obama's half brother."

    You do know, Baxxter, that the "Barack H. Obama Foundation" has nothing to do with President Obama, right?

    And really - you must have gotten your information from what...The Daily Caller? Run by Tucker Carlson - whose enemy number one is President Obama. He's probably upset that Obama hasn't endorsed the wearing of bow ties - the one thing that separates Carlson from the rest of the hack conservative media.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:46 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1976

    I was thinking about addressing the errors in the comments, comment made by people who have no idea what the Not for Profit tax code or the approval process is like, But then I realized that people here don't want facts, they want bad guys to blame and villainize to feel superior.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:06 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter wrote: "No, I suppose you wouldn't. What sources are you reading that list the TEA Party as "purely a money laundering business"?"

    Anyone with an iota of common sense would know that:
    1. TEA Party groups don't comply with the IRS guidelines for a 501(c) which states they are to be non-partisan. PROOF: Columns written by the "Lodi Citizens in Action" TEA Party in which they blatantly supported Republican causes despite many protests from Ed Miller. The TEA Party lady didn't even bother denying it and, from her own comments, decided to "vote with her feet" before the fire got too hot.

    2. The funds they raise are used to back the candidates of their choice (Republicans) in violation of the terms of their "non-profit" status.

    Want more?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:06 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Is there anything the Obama Admin. can do to keep Ms. Bobbin from being a water carrier for them? I think not.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:02 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Hear! Hear!

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:01 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Finally! A woman taking Ms. Bobbin to task. You go girl.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:59 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Ms. Welch" wrote: Ms Bobin,
    Please don't use my comments as a springboard to get in a jab at another poster."

    My apologies, "Ms. Welch." I didn't realize that YOU had become the moderator here in place of Mr. Birch and that YOU are now making the rules.

    FYI - I have responded to your comments, i.e., especially regarding the Emancipation Proclamation, in which your comment was really irrelevant and in which your only goal was to make a personal attack on me.

    If I don't respond it is most likely because I have not returned to that thread.

    Now, as moderator, if you are making a new rule that makes responding mandatory, then I guess you most likely will be disappointed.

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 6:14 pm on Fri, Feb 28, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 314

    I apologize for not being specific and detailed enough in my response to you, Mr. Liebich. The idea of an income tax was indeed first brought to light during the Civil War and it was later repealed, only to be brought up again with the Wilson-Gorman Tariff. It was that law specifically that was found unconstitutional in 1895. The point I was trying to make is that the legal/constitutional authorization for an income tax is found in the 16th amendment. Your first comment seemed to imply that we've had the income tax since the Civil War, and that is just not accurate. I will definitely try to be more specific in my answers to you in the future...

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:52 pm on Fri, Feb 28, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Bobbin, Darrell Issa IS doing his job, as the Chairman of the Oversight & Government Reform Committee, it is his responsibility to investigate improprieties within government entities. Just because YOU hate him for exposing the LIBERALS for who they really are and what they are is no surprise.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:28 pm on Fri, Feb 28, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    I forgot to include this information regarding Obama's half brother's 501c status for his scam "charity". The approval was granted by none other than Lois Lerner and the status was backdated thirty-eight months because they had been operating for over three years without first getting the proper tax-exempt certificate.
    There is evidence that monies this "charity" collects are funneled to terrorist organizations as "Roy" advocates the demise of America. I can imagine what the liberal whackos would be screaming if this had occured under a Republican President.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:49 am on Fri, Feb 28, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1479

    I'm curios Joe are you against all of our constitutional amendments or is it just the 5th that is BS?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:05 am on Fri, Feb 28, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Bobbin, you don't consider the IRS breaking the law relevant? No, I suppose you wouldn't. What sources are you reading that list the TEA Party as "purely a money laundering business"? Heard it on the Chris "Tingles" Matthews show, did ya? I suppose you are just fine with The Barack H. Obama Foundation that is run by Abon’go “Roy” Malik Obama, Obama's half brother. He managed to get his tax exempt status fast tracked for a sham of a "charity" during the same time the IRS was harassing conservative organizations and holding up their certifications.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:41 pm on Thu, Feb 27, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The Revenue Act of 1861 was NEVER ruled unconstitutional.
    Sections 49, 51, and part of section 50 of the Revenue Act of 1861 were REPEALED by the Revenue Act of 1862. I know what happened "afterward" Ms. Bobin. Do you? Democrats in Congress passed the Wilson-Gorman tariff in 1894, which imposed the first peacetime income tax. Why are facts NEVER enough for you Ms. Bobin?

    My point...which you and Ms. Welch both failed so miserably to grasp was simply this...The IRS has been enforcing the so-called “income tax" since long before "World War II" as Mr. F.W. “Bill” Stamos said in his letter.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:06 pm on Thu, Feb 27, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1363

    I'm keeping track.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:06 pm on Thu, Feb 27, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1363

    Darrell Issa only has that job because he put up almost all the money on the Gray Davis recall initiative. He wanted to be governor. Once they got Issa's money (because most of the other gop in the state were too cheap to donate), they pushed for Arnold, not Darrell. What a m@@@n!! To reward him, the state gop funded his run for the House in a safe district.

    The pure evil and deceit supported by gop. It's like everywhere you look. Shameful....shameful.....

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 6:07 pm on Thu, Feb 27, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 314

    Ms Bobin,
    Please don't use my comments as a springboard to get in a jab at another poster. I know that's what you prefer to do in this forum, but I prefer to just have a nice discussion or debate. Instead, why don't you try responding back to the comments I make and questions I ask of YOU rather than just dropping the subject when you disagree. I would definitely prefer that kind of reply from you rather than your belittling of others. Thanks!

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 10:54 am on Thu, Feb 27, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1363

    Mr. Stamos ("Bill"):

    Just stop paying your taxes.
    Get some of that powerful information that other tax cheats get and waive that in the judge's face. Maybe when you do, the judge, ballif, fed. attorney will all flee the courthouse to file retirement papers as daniel likes to bring up occasionally.

    You'll end up in a nice federal correctional facility with 3 hot meals a day, free medical and dental....

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:55 am on Thu, Feb 27, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    If Darrell Issa actually did his job of working on legislation instead of constantly wasting time with investigations and re-investigations in the hopes he'll catch ANYONE - even better Obama - Congress might have a higher rating.

    Issa needs to be booted since his only goal is to muck rake and not do the job he was elected to do.

    As far as subjecting TEA Party groups to higher scrutiny - these dopes shouldn't have tax exempt status. They are purely a money laundering business.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:44 am on Thu, Feb 27, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    That it was later ruled unconstitutional doesn't matter to Mr. Liebich. Just that it was DONE is enough for him.

    Remember, with Mr. Liebich only the initial act counts - what happens afterward doesn't.

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 10:42 am on Wed, Feb 26, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 314

    And it was ruled unconstitutional...

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:40 am on Wed, Feb 26, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    When you are a liberal loon in charge of anythng and get caught up illegal activities committed by the department you head, you simply plead the 5th and conveniently retire. Unfortunately, for Lois Lerner, she is being recalled to testify again. Trey Gowdy will rip her apart if she starts with her 5th Amendment BS again.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:15 am on Wed, Feb 26, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Seriously F.W. “Bill” Stamos?

    In July 1862, during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and Congress created the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue and enacted a temporary income tax to pay war expenses.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 10:35 am on Tue, Feb 25, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 483

    F. W. Don`t beat yourself up about the IRS, there has always been corruption in the IRS, as well as in all branches of the US government, and always will, it`s what they do, though they don`t see it as corruption, just want to get re-elected.

     

Recent Comments

Posted 3 hours ago by Kevin Paglia.

article: Letter: We must deal with Islamic State…

Steve and Ed, you two are very wrong, If you are talking cars NOTHING beats the Jaguar XK120. I'll put the Jag FX Coupe supercharged again…

More...

Posted 4 hours ago by M. Doyle.

article: Letter: Thanks for the discussion on th…

Just for kicks: Hypothetically speaking, is it possible your god is a figment of your imagination, a fantasy crutch to assuage your fear of…

More...

Posted 4 hours ago by Thomas Heuer.

article: Letter: Thanks for the discussion on th…

Mr Nedderton, Thats it, we're done. You want to continue the insults that now include paranoia so we have nothing more to discuss. Thanks …

More...

Posted 4 hours ago by Jerome Kinderman.

article: Downtown merchants: Parking garage need…

Sadly, but not all that surprisingly the only times I've found the garage at all useful was when a special event was going such as the bi-a…

More...

Posted 4 hours ago by Eric Barrow.

article: Letter: We must deal with Islamic State…

Ed to each his own, enjoy your ride and have a good weekend.

More...

Video

Popular Stories

Poll

Loading…

Your News

News for the community, by the community.

Mailing List

Subscribe to a mailing list to have daily news sent directly to your inbox.

  • Breaking News

    Would you like to receive breaking news alerts? Sign up now!

  • News Updates

    Would you like to receive our daily news headlines? Sign up now!

  • Sports Updates

    Would you like to receive our daily sports headlines? Sign up now!

Manage Your Lists