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Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:12 am | Updated: 6:13 am, Thu Nov 15, 2012.

On Nov. 22, 1963, America suffered a heart attack. She started to recover but then in 1976 she suffered a major heart attack. With the artificial heart we kept her alive until she could get a transplant. In 1980 she received a good one, and in 1982 this heart was at full capacity.

Then in 2008, she went into congestive heart failure. With modern medicine, we kept her alive until 2012 when her heart gave out.

America died Nov. 6, 2012. Rest in peace, America, RIP. I loved you, America.

Dennis Vetica

Lodi

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39 comments:

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:45 am on Tue, Nov 20, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    If an event does not fit the perceived reality, progressive liberals read between the lines and fill it in with whatever reality they want it to be.

    Therefore Andrew, in Ms. Bobin's mind, the event was fake. The liberal brain would be shattered if they stopped reading between the lines.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:40 am on Tue, Nov 20, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Chang... substance...[whistling]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:50 pm on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    Suggesting the Communist Chinese flag wasn't actually raised on the Ellipse 9/20/2012 is beyond foolish. "fake video" Good grief Ms. Bobin.

    The event wasn't "fake"! [sleeping][sleeping][sleeping]

    Was President Obama's bowing to Hu Jintao upon his arrival "fake" as well?
    http://youtu.be/m_9Wk_IGYX4

    You are too much... [lol]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:14 pm on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1071

    "Millions of members"

    [lol]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:11 pm on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Liebich acts as if there is no way to fake video - thus his obsessive obedience to youtube as the be all and end all of evidence that things he wishes to have happened actually have happened.

    Very foolish, Mr. Liebich.

    With your reasoning, I suppose that all science fiction such as Star Wars, has actually occured and has not been fabricated in Hollywood studios on computers.

    So sad to have this level of gullibility.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:55 pm on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    Are you seriously that oblivious?

    http://youtu.be/9P53UFVm2-k

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:31 am on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1448

    The Chinese flag last flew at the White House in 2006 when President George W. Bush was in office, during a visit from Chinese President Hu Jintao.

    Your story about Sept. 20th 2009 is incorrect and you stole the line “Trying to find words to describe the extreme offensiveness of flying the Communist Chinese flag over the White House challenges my vocabulary” are you seriously that gullible?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:48 am on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Communists in Lodi? Bigoted Communists?

    HEE HEE.

    I'll bet they all came to you to process their medical claims and. despite "despising" them, you accepted their money.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:39 am on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    For the Obamatrons who doubt the communist leanings of President Barack Obama, look no further than to his decision to hoist the Red Chinese flag (for the first time in history) over the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, D.C., on Sunday, September 20, 2009. Trying to find words to describe the extreme offensiveness of flying the Communist Chinese flag over the White House challenges my vocabulary.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:54 am on Mon, Nov 19, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    It does not surprise me that a progressive liberal would not recognize or admit they know many persons who supports communism and its tenets.

    Also strongly disagreeing with this far left liberal is Sam Webb, leader of Communist Party USA... In fact Sam Webb would think Bobin very misinformed. Why?

    What are some of the positions a communist party leader stated during the presidential campaign...

    1. They strongly supported ending the Bush Tax cuts.
    2. He stated living standards and democratic rights were seriously endangered unless the fullest mobilization of labor and its progressive allies defeated rightwing extremism in November.
    3. The giant financial, commercial and industrial corporations that dominate our economy have record profits and close to $2 trillion in liquid assets, which could be used for the benefit of the American people but instead are under private control and used simply to generate more for the top 1%.They must support Obama as he sees the vision on the Communist Party. The 1% ters a have to pay for the benefit of the working people.

    Yes, if one posted hundreds of comments that Communist supporters stated, one could easily recognize who they are in bed with...literally.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:05 pm on Sun, Nov 18, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    HAHAHAHA!!!

    You do tell a good story, Mr. Baumbach.

    Too bad none of it is true, unless you met those communists in Thailand.

    That I would believe. Here in the US, in Lodi? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:53 pm on Sun, Nov 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    funny... I have never seen, talked to, met or know anyone who has met a KKK member of supporter...yet I have met, talked to and know of many who do support communist activity ( all of whom I detest)...

    Im sure that the bigots around every corner are far more likely to be communist supporters than KKK supported...no doubt.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:43 am on Sun, Nov 18, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "This was in contrast to Mr Lucas who was comparing this organization the unorganized individuals that are KKK members."

    Not wishing to distort the "intent of your post," I would find it hard to believe that the KKK is "unorganized." According to your favorite reference site, Wikipedia, the Klan is no longer organized into a "national organization," but rather local chapters, but that is only due to the fact that they do so in order to prevent infiltration by law enforcement.

    Also, the Klan is an equal opportunity hate group. I doubt very much that the CPUSA could be described as such.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:50 pm on Sat, Nov 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403


    Mr Chang... why be so obtuse... I was simply clarifying the obvious which you simply wish to nit pick over the definition of "members" Why play such silly games? Of course there are not millions of people who join as paying members of the communist party in United States. I am registered as a republican and also do not pay a fee.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 1:53 pm on Sat, Nov 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1071

    Was: "millions of members"

    Now: "million of people who endorse..."

    [beam]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 1:35 pm on Sat, Nov 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1071

    Oh...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:47 am on Sat, Nov 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Chang stated..."Lefties want free healthcare, free phones, free everything and they want YOU to pay for it." Remember? You've said so yourself many times.

    Please put your evidence where your mouth is.... time and date of any post where I stated what you said I did.

    Lastly, I never talked about dues paying communists, never talked about card carrying communists... talked about members from a perspective of affiliates, supporters and advocates...I stated...A political party over 40 years old that has millions of members … You are putting words in my mouth and changing the intent of my post. The intent of the post was to identify an organized political party that has millions of people who endorse and support its objectives, activities and goals. This was in contrast to Mr Lucas who was comparing this organization the unorganized individuals that are KKK members. That you are attempting to distort my position and intent and say nothing about the bizarre comparison Mr Lucas made demonstrates your lack of seriousness in your claim...

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 11:12 am on Sat, Nov 17, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1071

    "All members of the Communist Party pay dues" (from cpusa.org)

    Darrell, you're being silly.

    Lefties want free things. That's the conventional wisdom propagated by Retrogressives in the right media, on opinion forums, etc.

    "Lefties want free healthcare, free phones, free everything and they want YOU to pay for it."

    Remember? You've said so yourself many times.

    The Communist Party USA wants $50 dues a year. All members of the Communist Party pay dues. Fifty bucks and that doesn't include a magazine subscription either.

    You get a card to put in your wallet.

    After a little research on the web, I would guess the number of "Real Communist" in America to be less then 10k.

    For you to arrive at "millions and millions" doesn't reflect reality and you're, once again, just being totally absurd!!!


    [beam]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:27 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    look who is talking about what a fact is...

    [lol][lol][ohmy][lol][lol]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:17 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Really Mr Chang, How many members, supporters and affiliates do you perceive there are world wide? You do know that the AFL/CIO is very close to this party?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:59 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Walter do not be too hard on Darrell. Facts are not his thing [smile]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:40 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1071

    "millions of members"

    [lol]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:51 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    A political party over 40 years old that has millions of members ("communist" party) is an equivalent to a few hundred kkk individuals that are in no way a political party in the minds of liberals ... Yes sir, liberals certainly do enjoy seeing things that are not there and making irrational comparisons.

    As far as being irrelevant, I'm sure the democratic party that welcomed this political party into their campaign would disagree.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:24 am on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    KKK members endorsed Romney therefore Romney was a KKK Member. Obviously this is not true but you are trying to say if you supported Obama your a communist. Darrell there are community colleges that have critical thinking courses. You might avail yourself of one. The only thing you do with posts like the one above is embarrass yourself.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:11 am on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Congrats for researching irrelevancies.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:09 am on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    One conservative poster is just beginning to learn that he, too, is subject to the rules above.

    He's been given carte blanche to insult people for way too long.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:02 am on Fri, Nov 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    A liberal stated...And "progressive communists?" I don't even know what that means either...

    Please let me help you out. There is a long standing website that has progessive communists as members .They enthuisiastically support president Obama and often refer to themselves as progressive communists.

    www.cpusa.org

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:31 pm on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    He might have given a timeout

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:05 pm on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1071

    "inexplicably removed"

    I think someone is off sulking again??

    [beam]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:19 pm on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Marty said:

    John, you continue to make wild generalizations with no facts to back it up.

    Have you noticed that the only thing the Republicans in congress care about is not raising the taxes on the very wealthy?

     
  • Robert Marty posted at 1:01 pm on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    rmartygeo Posts: 30

    John, you continue to make wild generalizations with no facts to back it up. "Everyone believes that people should take care of themselves"? Oh, not so true -- turn on any news (even MSNBC) and you will see differently. You will see people who want to have no personal responsiblity for their actions or their CHOICES. The government owes me this; the government owes me that. The government should pay. They want the government to pay for their mistakes; to bail them out; the provide bailouts.

    The government's role should clearly be one of limited involvement. Let people succeed. Let people fail. No bailouts. Life is hard. There are winners and losers. It has always been that way and will continue.

    I respect your right to choose to be liberal -- to live your life in whatever manner you wish. Some like to work hard; some want to work just enough to get by. Fine by me. What I will not tolerate is having my hard-earned wages confiscated (with risk of imprisonment) unfairly.

    For me, it is about taxes and tax-related issues because that is what FUELS the government beast and creates the expectations of the takers to expect entitlements paid for by the makers.

    Trust yourself. Not your government.

    Geez, I hope I did not stray too far off topic here...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:40 pm on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    But Mr. Lucas - "millions of people whose hearts have been stabbed in their minds."

    Whatever that means. It is quite evident by the post election comments that a certain poster has made have become even more desperate, hateful and untruthful than his pre-election persona - if that was even possible - but the evidence is clear.

    And "progressive communists?" I don't even know what that means either.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:22 am on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    We all believe that people should take care of themselves. That is not what the argument is about. It is about the role of government and who the government represents. I know you think of yourself as a Conservative but you are a modern day Republican which means you are for a government that represents the top 1/10 of 1% of the wealthy. Liberals believe that the government represents all the people and is interested in having opportunity for all not just the few.

     
  • Robert Marty posted at 10:34 am on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    rmartygeo Posts: 30

    Liberalism always wins? Please cite your evidence.

    It has happened many times before, and will again. Just the same as Conservative President's have been elected before and will again.

    Liberalism is reality-based? So, you do not believe in people taking care of themselves (bascially a conservative tenat)? It's only been happening for thousands of years...that seems like true reality.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:35 am on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Liberalism always wins in the end. It is reality based. The depth of your despair is brought on by the alternate reality the Conservative entertainment media has fed to you. Humans have to adapt to reality not the other way around. All that nonsense you PERCIEVE is just what it is, NONSENSE. Unless you embrace reality expect this to be the first of many heartaches.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:29 am on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Watching the hand-wringing pearl clutching reaction of those whose minds have been addled by the Conservative media entertainment complex is very interesting. Your worldview was given a great shock by the lies told to you by Fox, Rush etc. Do not worry you will get over it.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:50 am on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Kevin stated... Stupid letter.

    I think it is stupid to say it is a stupid letter. I think it is inaccurate and wrong, not stupid.

    Why? Because over 50% of America (liberals and progressive communists) perceive America is going in the right direction and are comforted that Obama is their leader. For them, America is doing quite well and did not die. However, for people like Dennis who can project the massive transformation the federal control of our country through Obama's progressive leadership, this election signifies an end to America as they preferred it. For them, America did die.

    To say this is a stupid letter is to denigrate and ridicule millions of people whose hearts have been stabbed in their minds.

    Personally, I think Dennis is wrong. Liberalism will be defeated eventually thanks to thinking Americans.

     
  • Robert Marty posted at 7:47 am on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    rmartygeo Posts: 30

    Kevin, there are many, many people who share a similar opinion to Mr. Vetica. His letter is far from stupid. I realize that if you don't agree, you may INTERPRET it as stupid - but that does not make it so.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 6:49 am on Thu, Nov 15, 2012.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1904

    I'll save the Liberal commenters the trouble:

    Stupid letter.

     

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