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Posted: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:00 am

With age comes the knowledge of how little one knows.

The present political administration desires to take arms away from the people. And it surprises many that even the Lodi police support taking arms away from honest people by purchasing of arms from citizens, supposedly to prevent criminal acts. Do they truly believe that criminals or those with intent will sell their arms to the Lodi Police Department? This open support of the Obama administration is beyond belief.

Yes, the present is a repeat of past history — Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini used the same methods. They left the police and military with automatic and semi-automatic weapons — using them to suppress the people whose weapons did not fire multiple times. Yes, leaving the criminals armed.

Oskar Johanson

Lodi

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27 comments:

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 2:35 pm on Tue, Apr 23, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1178

    PS CS Lewis wrote childrens stories

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 2:33 pm on Tue, Apr 23, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1178

    on
    You already hanged the constitution (at least the 2nd amendment) to allow the guns we have which we didn't have when the constitution was writte. Ritght to bear arms was not the 2nd amendment. It was to form a well regulated malitia. So where is your malitia and what relavance woukd it have today. Arms were muskets not AK47s. The malitia was in lieu of a standing paid army sufficient to withstand an INVASION not insurection by local yahoos who don't think the government is doing things their way. et real and get intelligent about the second amenment because there are too many hillbilleys already who don't know their arse from a bullet hole.

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 4:07 am on Tue, Apr 23, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Mr. Houdack writes," ...local buffoons ...ignorant ....hyperbole" Sounds like an all knowing liberal to me. Mr. Johanson actually experienced these events. Don't know how old you are Mr. Houdack but if you're talking from knowledge other than actual experience I'd believe Mr. Johanson's argument before I would yours. The German people, at least most of them, didn't know what hit them until it came suddenly upon them. There is a picture in the archives of Hitler on a sunny day surrounded by adoring beautiful children after he signed a gun control act that effectively took guns out of the hands of the population and only military or police could carry arms. If he could save just one life of a child it was worth it. Have you heard that one before? Fast forward to today with Obama surrounding himself with children or victims of gun violence and him saying if he saves just one life of a child this will all be worth it. This from a man who approves of killing live babies and the murder of millions of others in the womb without blinking an eye.

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 3:46 am on Tue, Apr 23, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    We're talking about the Bill of Rights....not the Bill of Needs. As I stated before..if you want to modify or change any of the amendments known as the Bill of Rights the Constitution has given us a system to do so. It's unconstitutional to do so by passing laws that restrict not only the 2nd Amendment but any amendment. But that hasn't stopped those that impose their own prejudices and beliefs onto others with saying things like they don't see a need in this or that. Stick to the Constitution and all will be safe in their liberties. As C.S. Lewis wrote," Of all tyrannies, the tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:11 pm on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1178

    Kevin on quick review this sounds pretty good. Write your congressman.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:59 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1880

    I am all for SMART gun laws. There are a lot of loopholes right now. I DON'T see a need for anyone to need high capacity clips, but since I am not a gun owner maybe it is something I won't understand.

    I Believe that a tiered gun permit/license program would be good. level A: hand guns and personal defense. Level B: Hunting and range single/ semi auto rifles. Level C assault and property defense ranged weapons. Each successive level would require additional safety training and proficiency training. These training levels would have a mandatory repeat cycle, maybe every 5 years.

    I also believe that for each level an owner can apply for an "emergency response" category where in a situation like the LA shootout (where the gunmen had body armor on) where the gun owner can be a back up for the police department, or a deterrent/first defender in a situation like a public attack (school, mall, party shooters). To qualify for the Emergency responder certification then clear shoot/no shoot standards would be drilled in during the training

    It may not be popular but that's what I think.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:39 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1880

    Don't need to die to have your life affected by being attacked.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:04 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1178

    Nobody died there

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 9:55 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1339

    I didn't know I made an anti-gun aurgument.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 9:04 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    Did anybody hear about the college student who went nuts and stabbed/slashed 12 students with a knife on a college campus last week before he was subdued by several students? Their lives probably won't ever be the same either. Obviously,gun control worked in this case, right? There you go,Eric, I just gave you ammunition to bolster your anti-gun arguement,thank me very much.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:32 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1339

    We can't know for sure but a limited round magazine and an assualt weapon ban may have saved the lives of a few of the 8 year olds that were massacered at Sandy Hook

     
  • Ron Portal posted at 7:34 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Can anyone point to anything in the gun law that was defeated in Congress that would of prevented the theatre and Sandy Hook massacres? If what Obama claims is true, that 90% of the people supported this bill [1] how could such minority stop it [2] why not do as the Constitution directs us. That is if you want to change the 2nd Amendment do it in a straight forward manner instead of constantly trying to go through the back door. With 90% of the people behind you [Obama would never lie would he?] you can get two-thirds of Congress to pass an amendment to change the 2nd Amendment. Then you get three-fourths of the states to sign on and wa-la.... you have your new law. Easy with 90% of the people behind you...go for it Obama. These animals that killed all these innocents were mentally ill and should of been incarcerated. The LA Times, no conservative paper, admitted that mental illness and mass murder are connected. Problem there is that progressives oppose involuntary incarceration of the mentally ill. To them its better to disarm the entire population and deprive them of their constitutional freedoms than to put a few mentally ill persons away who are prone to engage in violent crimes. And Mr. Houdack's statement of Oscar Johanson's assertion that our gov't is comparable to Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's is one that he actually witnessed. So, I don't know how old Mr. Houdack is but if didn't live through it and Mr. Johanson did...I think I'll listen to Mr. Johanson. Oh, by the way, the worse mass murder spree, if I remember correctly, was the Virginia Tech massacre a few years ago. And what did the maniac use to kill all these innocents? A machine gun? A semi-auto with the largest magazines known to man? An AR15?? No, he used two pistols. A 9mm Glock and a 25 caliber pistol. NOTHING that has been suggested here would of stopped the Virginia Tech or the Sandy Hook massacres or any other mass killing.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:45 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4305

    And slap on the title of "domestic terrorist" (which he is) and little Tsarnaev will disappear into a black hole to be waterboarded then shipped to Guantanamo in the dark of night never to be seen again.

    US to Tsarnaev's parents: "You had a son who lived in the US? Hmmmm...wonder where he could be? I'm sure we have a form for that."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:36 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4305

    With welfare entitlements harder to get, SSI and SSD are the "new" welfare.

    Having a hard time getting approved? Call Binder and Binder.

    According to a NPR story couple weeks ago, Binder and Binder have earned 68 MILLION $$ in fees, paid DIRECTLY to the law firm by SS Admin from the lucky winners first check - usually paid retro to their original application date.

    Best of all?

    The Social Security Admin has NO opposing representation in these cases and the recipient need not show up at the hearing either.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:30 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4305

    Note: Just the other day a sheriff's deputy in Tennessee was showing his guns to a relative at a party.

    He set a pistol down on the bed and in ran little 4 year old Johnny who grabbed the gun and within seconds shot the deputy's wife dead.

    No one saw the 4 year old grab the gun.

    Same deal - same day - Toms River, NJ. 4 year old grabs a rifle that was in the house and went out and shot a 6 year old in the head.

    If you can't trust a law officer to know how to properly handle his own guns, why would anyone expect some dummy who inherited a gun, had no intention of using it, but left it around to get stolen or have in fall into the hands of a 4 year old?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:20 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4305

    Not quite sure what you are disagreeing about.

    Mr. Johanson's letter claims the gun buy-back is a scheme by the government - and supported by LPD - to take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

    Who is being "forced" in this deal?

    If I had any guns in my possession that I no longer wanted I would participate and score a little cash to boot.

    There are a lot of people who have inherited guns from parents or other relatives and who have no intention of ever using them. Most likely, as disinterested gun owners, they don't have them locked up and if they are ever the target of a burglar, the thief will score a gun without having to go the legal route.

    I don't know how common this is, but I'm sure it happens.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 4:23 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1339

    I don't know if everyone saw the developments in Watertown but you better get a bigger militia. Add to that show a force ( assembled in a day) the biggest baddest military in history who by the way have drones that can take you or your family out from a mile away and I'm not sure what you plan on doing with you measly semi automatic. You could have a tank and it wouldn't matter it would just be easier to find you. Speaking of finding you I assume you've seen our governments satellite technology. No folks it appears our fear of everyone else in the world and our love of the military industrial complex has given us a force that would have scared the k rap out of the Founding Fathers. Maybe we should look seriously at using the power of the vote to start some downsizing.

     
  • Rick Houdack posted at 2:40 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Rick Houdack Posts: 123

    Maybe instead of career I should have used hobby or occupation; I had in mind retirees on pensions or Social Security, or those young enough to work, but who have learned to play the system by claiming disability (while they are perfectly able to sit at their computer all day writing against government entitlements and offering dire warnings of coming judgmental divine wrath).

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:31 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1178

    Mr Johanson asks
    "Do they truly believe that criminals or those with intent will sell their arms to the Lodi Police Department?" This argument stinks. Where on earth do you think criminals get their guns? They can buy them where anybody can buy guns or they steal them. The so called good guys with guns seem to get sloppy and their guns slip into the hands of the bad guys. And a good guy today doesn't mean he won't be a bad guy tomorrow.

    Thats why it needs to be started now to have background checks that will screen criminals and others with questionable competence. We need to reduce the number of guns available for criminals to steal. We need smaller magazines to reduce the killing capacity of weapons. This is not an assault on the second amendment which we've allowed the NRA and a minority to define. No it isn't going to stop violence from happening but if we have these measures in place we will start changing the violence mentality and reduce the numbers of weapons in circulation that make their way to criminals.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:10 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1178

    A career of writing those letters? The tea party pays someone for those? I thought they were done out of the goodness of their...oops I'm headed for an oxymoron here. Hey you can meet some of those writers on School Street just outside the post office. Don't expect too much intellectual exchange though. They only recite memorized slogans mostly from WWII posters about european facism that disappeared arround 1945. They just love the nostalgia though.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 1:09 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 351

    Sorry Joanne: I can`t agree with you, the buy back seems to be exactly as advertised since no one is being forced to sell their firearms. Evidently for various reasons people that give up their guns no longer find a need for them around their house, I don`t see forced entered into the picture. Stopping to think about the up roar concerning Roe V Wade, give some thought concerning the government coming into your house and mine and taking my firearms by force, now your talking about a civil war. I can`t speak for the rest of the country, however the tarnished state of Calif. now has strict gun laws and has had for 25 years. You can`t buy a gun now with showing proof you live in Calif., a background check, and a 10 day waiting list to be cleared by the Dept. of Justice, no felons need apply, though many people are felons that just got out of jail due to over crowding, and with a gun being found on their person will be going back. What we need is 20-30 more laws on top of the 40-50 all ready in place. Be nice with your reply.[wink]

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:58 pm on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1178

    No Mr Hillyard it is not cheating. But you do get less money for a broken one than one that works. You get more money for rifles than handguns and the maximum payout goes to assault rifles turned in. This is only if you are a Lodi resident.

     
  • Rick Houdack posted at 10:39 am on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Rick Houdack Posts: 123

    Another letter to the editor published (instead of being spiraled into the trash) in the Lodi News-Sentinel; comparing our government with the fascist Nazis of the 1930s and '40s, claiming the United States is indistinguishable from the perpetrators of the holocaust.

    The only surprise is only one such letter is published today, instead of the half-dozen local buffoons who normally make a career of writing out their ignorant, World Net Daily hyperbole.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:36 am on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    [smile]

     
  • Mark Hillyard posted at 10:22 am on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Mark Hillyard Posts: 10

    I've got two broken and useless guns and the cost to repair is not worth the bother. Would it be cheating if I ran these over to Lodi and got some money for them?
    Just wondering.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 9:25 am on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    If the current background check laws were enforced... If it isn't done currently, then what makes us think that a new law will remedy the problem? It probably won't be enforced either. Anybody turning in their firearms for a paltry sum, or are you going to sell it for a fair market value? just wondering.Mr.Johanson:your post is exactly correct

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:37 am on Sat, Apr 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4305

    Yes, the LPD gun buy-back is a very cleverly disguised way of confiscating guns from the public.

    I wonder how many people Mr. Johanson will find at the buy-back who will claim they were somehow forced to sell their "unwanted" guns?

    And if we can't get 46 cowardly senators to support a bill that expands background checks, I doubt very much they would vote to eliminate the 2nd Amendment - not that ANYONE is ever proposing that.

    Still beyond time for Mr. Johanson to turn in his quill pen.

     

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