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Posted: Friday, September 5, 2008 10:00 pm

This is in response to the long, very sympathetic article in the paper, Aug. 25, regarding the shattered lives of the forced returns of illegal Mexicans to Mexico. It leaves me feeling sad for California.

The Border Patrol is doing the job they were hired to do - thank God. The official attitude has been so lax for so long that the California economy is going broke supporting the illegal population. The overload at San Joaquin General Hospital and the extra costs of education from preschool through college are causing a shortage of school space and money; examples consist of unaffordable school bus services and lack of extra space for gifted children along with providing many other services.

The poor working-class taxpayer would be happy to have one of those construction worker, farm or nanny jobs when they find themselves unemployed due to their company relocating to Mexico or China or wherever, and they can't find work. We are in a slow economy with many unemployed U.S. Citizens.

Those who are illegal have no right to services or protection from deportation. They knew what they were doing was wrong when they came. They should prepare themselves to be returned.

In every case, California is better off without the ex-prisoners and gang members and the other illegal immigrants (returned 10,000 since 2006), even 16-year-old Paola Riveras who went to her illegal mother in Los Angeles. Her mother could go back to her and then both could get legal visas if they want to return.

I say bravo to the Border Patrol, keep up the good work.

Dorothy Mehrer

Lodi

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73 comments:

  • posted at 12:14 pm on Fri, Sep 12, 2008.

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    hammerhead83 wrote on Sep 11, 2008 2:23 PM:" i know what your saying bob i will not raise my children in such a closed minded town with such racist mind sets in such a pretty town the people and there comments here isnt what lodi is really about i want my children to respect all races and cultures and not just use them when we want iam a proud german man but its disgusting to hear what they say about differant people just they werent born here does that make them criminals "But how can use raise them this way when you hate America so much. I was not born here, I guess I hate myself. NOT! I came here legally.

     
  • posted at 12:12 pm on Fri, Sep 12, 2008.

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    hammerhead83 wrote on Sep 7, 2008 9:23 PM:" hey giovanina i have lived in lodi all my life from german decent and my family has been here since the 1800s deeply rooted in the farming industry and talking to the rest of the long time members of lodi who appreciate the work that mexican workers have done since the turn of the century. we are ashamed of what you write here YOUR HATE backed by what mazie has said which is truly hate in your heart. do you really want to teach your children this hate message and T&C there is no need to address you your just like jerry springer what comes out of your mouth is pure comedy and no need to comment. "First, you comments sound like a ranting 20 year old member of the International Socialist Organization, or you are the lone member of ANSWER.org I have seen roaming around.My comment was on Mexican illegals. Illegal means breaking the law, which no republican believes in but you Socialists do.

     
  • posted at 4:35 am on Fri, Sep 12, 2008.

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    Put the race card away! We are talking about law breakers=criminals! They are violating laws, and some are committing very violent crimes at the expense of honest, tax paying citizens.Is it our resposibilty to pay for there food? Healthcare? I do not think so!

     
  • posted at 6:28 pm on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    Investing EffectivelyHow Europe's trade model could solve America's immigration problem.http://www.miller-mccune.com/article/190

     
  • posted at 4:01 pm on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    lodisafeway you are the round orifice are the the bottom of the body.Couldn't get anyone to argue with you under one name so you took another one. What did it last a whole week? You are pitiful

     
  • posted at 11:51 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    My ship jumping illegal immigrant ancestor was dealt with swiftly by the authorities when they found him in Monterey.They sent him over here to the Central Valley where the other Americanos were settling.

     
  • posted at 9:30 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    I hear ya hammerhead. The overt and more subtle racism displayed on these boards is sad to read and fun to respond to.

     
  • posted at 9:23 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    i know what your saying bob i will not raise my children in such a closed minded town with such racist mind sets in such a pretty town the people and there comments here isnt what lodi is really about i want my children to respect all races and cultures and not just use them when we want iam a proud german man but its disgusting to hear what they say about differant people just they werent born here does that make them criminals

     
  • posted at 9:16 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    o iam sorry bob

     
  • posted at 9:15 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    thats all you got bob iam not getting graded em i

     
  • posted at 9:15 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    sports guru big foot is in my back yard iam sure you will believe that seen you think the mecha army is going to invade southwest u.S.a

     
  • posted at 9:14 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    geez hammerhead, try a few periods in your posts. They're free.

     
  • posted at 9:13 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    no, no...I think it's an outstanding suggestion. Might open up some minds around here.

     
  • posted at 9:11 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    that was a joke bob

     
  • posted at 9:10 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    Join the mecha club.....that's great!

     
  • posted at 9:10 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    HEY MAZIE i know your not as stupid as you write you actually think illegals get free anything they pay taxes every time they buy and since there only getting paid 7.50 an hour iam sure that somebody is getting the profit and it is going somewhere and i have worked the hospitals and other medical clinics 80% of the free clients are white homeless people who have a drinking problem think it about it when was the last time you seen a homeless mexican man pan handiling in your major cities.

     
  • posted at 9:02 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    i love small town politics nobody cares what you people think iam glad the illegal immigrants are coming and taking over thank god you lazy lodian people all you can do is drink the wine they pick and crush the grapes they get and bitch about nothing THEREs not a problem its just you lazy people have nothing to do get a hobby join the mecha club do something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
  • posted at 8:11 am on Thu, Sep 11, 2008.

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    citizen, I love how far under your skin you have let me crawl. I am your personal chigger that you can't get rid of. Your obsession is music to my ears. I love being your nightmare. Heheheh...

     
  • posted at 12:54 pm on Tue, Sep 9, 2008.

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    Once again after reading these posts Hussein looks like the "real jerk" here. More liberal name calling. Is that all you guys got?

     
  • posted at 7:29 am on Tue, Sep 9, 2008.

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    .LINK TO MECHA's CONSTITUTION (on their website):http://www.nationalmecha.org/documents/nationalConstitution.pdfJulio and Rosa Garcia, both LUSD teachers, are the primary persons pushing the MECHA agenda to students in LUSD. Julio shows MECHA propaganda movies in the Spanish Classes he teaches - so we enable MECHISTAS to further their agenda - even within our own school district.

     
  • posted at 7:27 am on Tue, Sep 9, 2008.

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    .We have so many illegals here because they are part of a plan by Nationalist Mexican Loyalists (Mecha) to try and politically "re-take" the American Southwest.Their constitution (from their own website) states:"Chicano and Chicana students of Aztlan must take upon themselves the responsibilities..to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztln."GLOSSARYSelf-Determination: deciding what is best for ones-self outside the bounds of society.Chicano People: MexicansAtzlan: Arizona, New Mexico, Southern California (the American Southwest)Liberating Atzlan: Taking back the American Southwest for Mexico.HOW DO YOU ACHIEVE ALL THIS? You first have to have..a..majority..of..people..living..in..those..areas.

     
  • posted at 6:22 am on Tue, Sep 9, 2008.

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    This is always a hot topic to discuss, everyone has a opinion of what should be done. Maybe someone needs to ask the presidents of these states ware the Immigrants come from, why are your citizens leaving their county & what can be done about it. I have heard from severaly illegals how thay love their county, You know what i love my county also, I just think thay should all leave and then we legal citizens can have jobs back,

     
  • posted at 4:52 pm on Mon, Sep 8, 2008.

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    Sterilization is a great idea! If you want to work here, and send money back to wherever, fine! Don't breed, don't use any of OUR social services, and when you are done, go home and enjoy the money you made here, provided you pay your share of taxes.Churches to start preaching abstinence or CONDOMS! We are tired of paying for them, of all nationalities! Do not be a dirtbag! Think before you breed! Should you breed based on your genes, and employment status? Look in the mirror!

     
  • posted at 1:23 pm on Mon, Sep 8, 2008.

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    When will people get it, This is NOT about farming, it is about lazy grape farmers that are too good to pick their own crop, and look the other way when the hire a "crew" to do the work for them..Send the illegals back to their country and PROSECUTE the criminal farmers who employ them!

     
  • posted at 5:49 am on Mon, Sep 8, 2008.

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    lodisafeway; I know that I have enjoyed reading your intelligent and well-reasoned posts.

     
  • posted at 4:45 am on Mon, Sep 8, 2008.

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    Sadly, it's all true, Hispanics have an enormous birth rate, may I suggest sending them to Spain to counter the growing number of Moroccans?

     
  • posted at 7:39 pm on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    Illegal immigration is a big problem in this state and in this country, but all of the neo-Nazi's commenting here have backed up their claims (non-stop babies, welfare, free money, etc.) with any statistics. And please, don't offer up any nut-job websites run by fellow neo-Nazi's! You are spewing pure hate, not helpful insight or information on how to solve the problem - except Mazie - I volunteer her/him/Giovanina - for the first sterilzation procedure.

     
  • posted at 4:29 pm on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    ps giovanina t&C go to the east side and spread your hate see what you look like the next day sincerely a proud german lodian from the strong republican party who is tired of the lodi white trash who spreads hate and makes the rest of the community look bad!!!!!!!!!!!!! david jones look me up

     
  • posted at 4:23 pm on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    hey giovanina i have lived in lodi all my life from german decent and my family has been here since the 1800s deeply rooted in the farming industry and talking to the rest of the long time members of lodi who appreciate the work that mexican workers have done since the turn of the century. we are ashamed of what you write here YOUR HATE backed by what mazie has said which is truly hate in your heart. do you really want to teach your children this hate message and T&C there is no need to address you your just like jerry springer what comes out of your mouth is pure comedy and no need to comment.

     
  • posted at 7:42 am on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    Are you handing out degrees you fraud? If so, I should be a Doctor of Blogology.

     
  • posted at 7:36 am on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    Rookies such as yourself, Brian and bobserver are no competition for the master bloggers, Leonard and Sam.

     
  • posted at 7:29 am on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    geraldo, I thought you took your bloggies and went home crying?

     
  • posted at 5:48 am on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    Yeah, Bob - that's precisely what I meant by your "contributions." Atta boy; you never let us down!

     
  • posted at 5:30 am on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    Uh huh. Don't forget, capes are bad too Captain Nutbag.

     
  • posted at 3:57 am on Sun, Sep 7, 2008.

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    Gee Bob - I can see where you might think that, not enjoying having the truth put before you as I am able to do. The thing is, when anyone here asks a question, makes a remark or an accusation directed to or of me, I have this uncanny reflex built within me to choose if and when I desire to respond. The fact is I DO make sense and since we're all granted a little less than 200 words per post here to state our case(s), "excessive" would be in the eye of the beholder, wouldn't one think?What I find incredible about bloggers like you is that instead of simply ignoring what I write and moving on to more sensible and less-excessive remarks (IYO), you find it necessary to demonstrate your very own version of "nonsensical" albeit diminutive diatribes.I ignore the majority of the nonsense written here, but occasionally speak my mind just to see what kind of rise I can get. I am usually not disappointed.

     
  • posted at 7:39 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    lodisafeway: Didn't you see The Incredibles? Don't you know excessive, nonsensical monologues will be your downfall?

     
  • posted at 4:35 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    As far as you half-witted bloggers who attempt to associate me with others on this forum - is that all you've got? You disagree with my position and since you have no viable position with which to counter mine, you think that by coupling me with someone else this furthers your pathetic opinions? It only makes you appear weaker than you already are. Keep it up! If it makes you feel all that more powerful, knock yourselves out. It doesn't bother me in the least. In fact, it just adds to the comical aspect of what goes on here.It is so much fun to watch the fear and confusion that has infected the Democrats. Obama's followers actually believed that the people would be fooled by his sleight of hand and his incredible ability to talk out of both sides of his mouth at the same time. He's weak - his record proves that and an electorate that really wants to solve the problems facing us will not fall for it on November 4th.

     
  • posted at 4:26 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Voter - you might just want to move your eyes away from the left's talking points for just a moment. Reagan made a very big mistake in 1986. We've been living with that ever since. Neither has he, the elder Bush, Clinton nor George W. done anything to resolve the matter.But here we are in 2008 - blame who you want, I really don't care. The fact is that no one is doing their job. The problem is, however that the left (liberals/Democrats - you know who you are), somehow believe that these 12 million or so here breaking our laws, killing our people, filling our prisons and hospital emergency rooms, etc., etc., should be permitted to stay with impunity. This is not how our country should be managed.Pelosi and Reid ran on a "reform" platform that has revealed that all they wanted was the title of Speaker and Majority Leader - they've offered no solutions to anything. That is why they're approval ratings are lower than Bush's. Bush is leaving in January. But we'll still be stuck with the Congress. So, yeah - right now it IS their fault. That's how it works.

     
  • posted at 2:59 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    I've had the ability to speak to young men in our area who chose not to go to college. They would like to find jobs, working with their hands and the sweat of their backs. One young man said he put in 20 applications for entry level jobs and found nothing. He along with several others I've encountered stated that illegals take the jobs that could have had. Many would work in the fields but don't even know how to find out about them. Do you see jobs advertising for it? NO! Carpentry jobs used to pay well before the influx of illegals, men can't support their famiies on $8 an hour. The worst thing, it seems that the Mexicans don't seem to understand or value education. Until that changes, this group will never go forward. Can you imagine half of the US in 40 years not having a high school diploma???

     
  • posted at 1:15 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Girard/safeway, are you asserting that the immigration problem was caused over the past two years by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi? The Republicans had control of everything for years. Why didn't they do something? This is a complicated issue that took years to develop. One party can not solve this alone. Not when corporate America stands to lose so much. Society and government need to stand up to corporations. Do you think that's going to happen soon when they fund the politicians? You are naive.

     
  • posted at 1:08 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    All illegals need to be deported.There are more Mexican illegals due to location and a Mexican government that promotes a fifth column, and the drug cartels funding gangs.Will Americans ever open their eyes? Or will they wait until one of their own family members becomes a victim?

     
  • posted at 12:35 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    roni95242 wrote on Sep 6, 2008 11:42 AM:" If any person of ANY race is here ILLEGALLY they should be deported from wherever they came from."Amen, roni95242

     
  • posted at 12:32 pm on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    lodisafeway wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:14 PM:" Why is it that people who simply desire that our laws be enforced and obeyed are "hateful" or "ignorant?" Very good question lodisafeway, and by the way you have said alot of good comments on this topic! There are those who DON'T CARE what illegals do, have done or are doing! They do not care about our Laws about immigration. What the liberals feel is..."They are here and if they refuse to apply for citizenship and wait in line like the rest of the world must do..."Hey, go for it! Our government is picking up the tab, not them!" If we are going to allow 12 million illegals to just squat on our country, we might as well just abolish the immigration system period! It is 2 years in prison for illegally entering Mexico! Why aren't all the illegal lovers in an uproar over that? Illegals get out of the responsibility of learning English, learning our laws and assimilating into our culture!

     
  • posted at 8:41 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    That's all you've got? Corporate America wants them here, so here they stay? Just what does that say about a Democrat-controlled Congress? If this is true where are all of the Congressional hearings on just why they're getting away with this conspiracy to flout the law?With the signing of one little subpoena, the CEOs, CFOs and virtually anyone they want could be sworn in and compelled to answer for this outrageous behavior. But where are Harry and Nancy and the rest of the folks on the Hill?Oh, yeah - they went on vacation to avoid working on an energy bill. But they'll be back on Monday - ready, able and willing to "fight for the American people" as they promised they would successfully do if they had only been given the opportunity to do so. But like your arguments here, Voter, they're full of nothing but hot air.

     
  • posted at 8:35 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Illegal immigrants will work for substandard wages in dangerous conditions expecting no benefits. In an emergency, the public system will step in to pay for medical care--a win-win situation. This is a sweet deal for corporations, don't you think?

     
  • posted at 8:33 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Again, what a tool. Illegal immigrants are here because corporate America wants them here. If no one employed them, there would be far less incentive to cross the border. The Bush people have done nothing. Why do you think that is????

     
  • posted at 8:27 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Oh, another libbie who can read the hearts and minds of others. Maybe Mazie is and maybe Mazie is not a racist. I don't know; and as far as this debate is concerned I don't care.The fact is we have a bunch of illegal people running around actively destroying our economy by their very presence. Rather than send them back to their homes, there are those who believe we should exhibit "compassion" despite these same liberals' insistence that our economy is in the tank and millions of people are jobless and hopeless.Send the illegals back home and put more Americans back to work. I guess that makes too much sense, huh? No, let them continue to suck us dry and blame President Bush for the unemployment numbers. Yeah, that's the ticket!! More liberal mumbo jumbo, thats all it is.

     
  • posted at 8:21 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Give it up, safeway. How about if you go pick your own vegetables. Mazie hatefully stated that immigrants were only good for working the fields and that they should all be sterilized. Those are not excusable slip ups. A person who was not racist would not even think to say those things.

     
  • posted at 8:14 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Why is it that people who simply desire that our laws be enforced and obeyed are "hateful" or "ignorant?" Sure, their passion may cause them to make certain outrageous remarks, but in light of a do-nothing government that permits people to continuing siphoning off of taxpayers, I can't say that I blame them for their outrage.Those who demand "compassion" to those who demonstrated no respect for our laws and no compassion toward our citizens who suffer by their very presence here might want to determine just how much money would be saved if those who are here illegally were returned to their countries of origin.After all, from what I can tell 99.99% of the citizens of the United States are suffering terribly economically as a result of the policies of the Bush administration. Let's get a little relief by way of a caravan of buses returning illegal Mexicans back across the border. That would then free up quite a few jobs for those unemployed citizens to begin making their own way again. Oh, I forgot - they "won't" do those types of jobs, will they? How uncompassionate of me!

     
  • posted at 7:00 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Blond and blue-eyed here too. Sorry to disappoint you, Mazie.

     
  • posted at 6:50 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Mazie, you're welcome to "check my status." I am an 8th generation Californian, and a 12th generation American. I have no clue as to the status, legal or not, of my ancestors' arrival in California. But seeing as though, by appearances, I'm "Hitler's Perfect German," I'm sure I couldn't possibly ruffle your feathers too much. I'm sure you'd encourage me to perpetuate OUR "SUPERIOR" RACE. And for the record, I did read all of your posts before posting, and you don't come off as any less ignorant or hateful in them, either.

     
  • posted at 6:42 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    If any person of ANY race is here ILLEGALLY they should be deported from wherever they came from.We already have plenty of AMERICANS that are abusing a system that was designed to help them.No one who is here Illegally should be eligable for ANY benefits period!Th Americans that are here abusing the system need a swift kick in the Butts also!

     
  • posted at 6:39 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    I don't think it is right that ILLEGALS come to the U.S. and have baby after baby and get everything paid for. Meanwhile they work in the fields and make money, most don't pay taxes, plus get all the free services for their kids and we are stuck paying the bill. I suppose this does not bother either of you? Makes me wonder why you are standing up for them? Are you illegals? Probably not since you are speaking English. My bad.

     
  • posted at 6:29 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Sterilization would not hurt me considering my age LOLOL and if California keeps up with allowing all the free services to ILLEGALS, you won't have to deport me. I will move to Mexico, since they will all be here ILLEGALLY. You guys crack me up.

     
  • posted at 6:25 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    jrs: did you not read all of my posts? i took back the sterilization word and replaced it. If you are going to read posts, please read them all before you reply. And hey, do you know of anything else "illegals" are good at? aside from bringing drugs in and starting gangs? I am talking ILLEGALS only. Don't get so defensive or I will check your status LOL. Everyone knows this is the majority of our crimes. And this is where the drugs are coming in from.

     
  • posted at 6:21 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    jrs, we are talking about pure hate and ignorance. And I like your idea of deporting Mazie. How about sterilization too?

     
  • posted at 5:57 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Mazie says, "Working in the fields is all they are good for."Are we talking about people here, or oxen?

     
  • posted at 5:54 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Mazie is what's wrong with America. I'm all for deporting her. Antarctica is nice in September, so I've heard...Forced sterilization? Who do you think you are? Even the notion of forced sterilization recalls the ethnic cleansing that the US fought so hard to defeat in WWII. Pure evil. Think about what you're saying, Mazie. THINK ABOUT IT.

     
  • posted at 5:38 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    I know people who work 40 hrs a week who cannot afford health insurance. If something happens to them, they do not get to go to the hospital for free treatment. They cannot have a baby in a hospital for free. What gives illegals the right? This country is so screwed up. We need to just start turning them away and cut off all benefits and I know they would leave our country.

     
  • posted at 5:34 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Unless and until the time comes that we deport them, they will be working in the fields. There is nothing i can do about that. So as long as they are illegally working here, they should support their own families. The only thing I would support illegals doing..is leaving. This is part of the reason our country is going broke. Any illegal applying for free benefits should be immediately deported, no questions asked. This is the reason our health benefits are so high. We are the ones paying.

     
  • posted at 5:24 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Voter: it does not bother you that they are here illegally and getting all the free benefits? It doesn't bother you that they keep having more and more kids that we, citizens, are paying for? It doesn't bother you that they bring violence and drugs to our country?

     
  • posted at 5:12 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    I don't support illegals doing anything here while they are here illegally. But it seems that working in the fields is all they are good for. To keep our prices down? I say NOT.

     
  • posted at 5:06 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    So mazie, you support illegals working in the fields?

     
  • posted at 4:56 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    As I stated earlier, the "sterilization" thing just came out of my frustration over this matter. But they should not be allowed to keep having kids and the citizens paying for those kids. Agreed? They should continue to work in the fields and support their own d*mn kids. Or just go back home to Mexico. I don't understand why our government does not enforce the immigration laws. Illegal is illegal so arrest them and send them back home. Secure the borders so they cannot return. If they become citizens they can work here legally and pay taxes like the rest of us. OPERATION WETBACK succeeded once, why not again?

     
  • posted at 4:14 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Those who have no stand on an issue normally resort to sophomoric name-calling and other disparaging remarks. No surprises here in that regard. Certainly the idea of forced sterilization is abhorrent; as is to suggest that the children of anyone here illegally will somehow naturally follow along accordingly. The problem however is that the frustration level that continues to build over what appears to be nothing less than apathy from our so-called leaders to deal with the problem head-on is well-placed.Laws are made for a reason. Unless they are deemed to be unconstitutional or are otherwise reversed or nullified, they should be enforced. Making excuses for the lawlessness of others or simply turning our heads in the opposite direction while our borders are being breached solves nothing; it only makes things worse.Secure the borders; return those who are here illegally to the countries from whence they came; restructure our immigration policies (if that is what is right and necessary) and let's just move on.I would suggest that those who resort to drinking in an effort to put up with the nonsense that is going on might have no other recourse. Washington obviously isn't listening.

     
  • posted at 4:13 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Mazie wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:40 AM:" then whatever is left over, make the illegals work for it. "So you support the presence of illegals as long as they work. Is that your position? That's what you stated. This is what I get from your mixed messages: They can stay if they work hard, but they should all be sterilized--keep them enslaved and under control.

     
  • posted at 3:40 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    What happened to the law that only gave welfare benefits for 5 years? That way, if they kept having kids, they would have to support them. This country is so screwed up. We have senior citizens that were born here, worked all their lives and cannot afford to pay their utilities but we keep giving to the illegals and their anchor babies. TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS FIRST then whatever is left over, make the illegals work for it.

     
  • posted at 3:37 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Sterilization was harsh but they should not be allowed to keep having kids. They cannot afford them anyway. Then the kids grow up and have kids and so on and so on. This is at no cost to them and I am tired of it. Nothing to do with racism. Everything to do with being here illegally and getting free benefits. GO TO MEXICO AND TRY IT THERE. The bleeding hearts should be the ones supporting them, not us. If they can't support their kids, they should not be allowed to have any..that is my point. We cannot even afford to help our seniors, and they deserve our help.

     
  • posted at 3:27 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    voter,when upholding the law and defending our borders becomes racist and the result of drinking, this country is already gone. I believe in your right to spout hate, but come on, whatca gonna do when you wake up one morning and the flag of mexico or atlzan is flying over city hall. Within 25 years this is a real possiblity and all those libs who though unregulated immigration are going to be amazed at how quickly there property is taken away from them and how few rights they have under the new conquering regime.

     
  • posted at 3:19 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    I see, drinking and racism. Doesn't sound like the two of you are walking with Jesus this morning. Oh wait, that's Sunday morning that you walk with Jesus. My mistake.

     
  • posted at 3:11 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    Mazie, I agree with all you wrote except "Sterilization! How odd tho, that our government states that by 2025, hispanics will outnumber white people, and a huge reason for that is because of so many illegals having ninos, for which they have no medical to cover the cost. We just can't round up 12 million illegals, place all their Ninos in foster homes and deport the rest back to their own country. In my eyes, if you are not a legal citizen giving birth, your NINOS is not legal either. The Constitution needs to be changed! If an American mother gives birth in Mexico, guess what! That child is a american citizen, not a mexican citizen!

     
  • posted at 3:07 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    If you or I, Sneaked into Mexico like a rat in a corn field, "WE have absolutely "NO RIGHTS"! We face a 2 year prison sentence! America, seems to be the place to "GIVE BIRTH TO NINO AFTER NINO, in an effort to get free rent, free food, free medical and NOT be deported. Breeding mothers do not as a whole, work. They are busy getting pregnant while forgetting who each father is! But if you ask them in spanish how life is in America, they will smile and tell you "Life is good"! I agree Dorothy, send them all back!http://immigrationcounters.com/http://www.americanpatrol.com/ADMINISTRATION/NAVIGATION/Report-Illegals.htmlWho appreciates a neighbor who has 10 people living in a 1 bedroom or 2 bedroom apartment, loud playing music no one understands, and leaves their beer bottles outside.?

     
  • posted at 3:01 am on Sat, Sep 6, 2008.

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    5 am is a little early to start drinking.

     

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