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Letter: President Obama’s struggles should not be compared to Nelson Mandela’s

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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:00 am

The other night I was listening to a San Francisco radio station while picking up a load at a refinery in Rodeo when the host starts talking about the death of Nelson Mandela. He begins comparing the struggles of Mandela to that of Obama, and how both have fought segregation and racism. Excuse me?

From what little we know of Obama’s youth, it’s apparent he was a spoiled child. He went to the best schools where he was never stopped in attaining whatever he wanted, and as far as we know, the only fight he took part in was trying to get enough marijuana to smoke and coke to snort in college — which explains why he refuses to divulge his school records. By the way he governs now, it seems he has graduated to smoking crack.

During the Trayvon Martin case, in which he had no reason to get involved other than to stoke racial unrest, he did give an example of racism against him in the mean streets of Hawaii. That was the locking of car doors as he and his mother crossed the street. Oh, the humanity! How could he carry on with such hatred focused against him? What strength of character, what courage and fortitude, what a man, what a guy! What trials Mandela endured is nothing compared to this man. Wow, aren’t we lucky!

Let me make this very clear — as Obama is fond of saying — Mandela had more manhood in his fingernail clippings than Obama has in his entire body. And the comparing of this pampered child (who has never worked a real job in his life) to such company as Mandela is an affront to such a man as Mr. Mandela; to wit, that liberal host should be made to apologize. Like that will ever happen!

Ron Portal

Lodi

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45 comments:

  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:47 am on Thu, Dec 19, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Bobbin, as ususal, the key word in your post is "ASSUME", which you manage to do very incorrectly qute often.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:24 pm on Wed, Dec 18, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Obama's father was a Marxist, his maternal grandfather was a Marxist, his mother was Marxist and the most influential mentors in his life have been, by his own admission in his own autobiography, all Marxists.

    Frank Marshall Davis who was a Marxist professor was his most influential mentor. He started his political career in the living room of Marxist domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers. He attended the church of Reverend Wright who teaches liberation theology which was started in Latin America by Marxists. His closest advisers in his administration are Marxists. He has endorsed Occupy Wall Street, an anti-capitalist movement started by Marxists. He is endorsed by the Communist Party of America.

    It's difficult to believe that anyone thinks Obama is anything but a Marxist.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:56 pm on Wed, Dec 18, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1501

    The photographer that took that photo said it was just unfortunate that the caught Michelle with that expression and that she was in no way upset with Obama

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:41 am on Wed, Dec 18, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1501

    Mr. Baxter, again I ask you do you think that the American Revolution where we fought our own government and won our freedom from the British Imperialist was treasonous.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:31 am on Wed, Dec 18, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baxxter wrote: "Sorry to inform you Bobbin, I don't watch O'Reilly, FOX News nor di I subscribe to any conservative media. It doesn't take much to look aroun and see exactly what is transpiring in America. Marxists ideology abounds in our government. They all want to be royal dictators instead of elected officials representing American citizens."

    This is the analysis one gets when one gleans the political and economic arena from seemingly "thin air." I have to assume that since you do not do any of the above, you pull your opinions of what is going on in this country out of said thin air - which basically translates to making assumptions with no substance.

    And then you have the temerity to ridicule those who analyze information and form their own opinions? HA HA!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:25 am on Wed, Dec 18, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    That's not what Baxxter is complaining about.

    He's OFFENDED by the terrorist actions of Mandela, not his momentary communist leanings.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:38 am on Wed, Dec 18, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Apparently liberals love to be lied to as well. They elected a pathological liar and swallow every lying word he utters as gospel.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:49 pm on Tue, Dec 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Mr. Barrow, read my reply to Bobbin, AGAIN. Apparently liberals love terrorist and murderers along with pathologtical liars. Defines their personalities quite well.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:42 pm on Tue, Dec 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Now I remember why I participate in these posts.It is the comedic responses I get from liberals. Leave it to Bobbin to play the race card when,in fact, NO RACISM existed, lame iberal favorite tactic they fall back on when they can't make substantive counter points. In another post she mocked Megyn Kelly for proclaiming Jesus and Santa Clause were white, then turns around and proclaims God is white. Oh, the irony, Oh, the laughter. Yee Haw.......

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:46 pm on Tue, Dec 17, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    As far as I know NONE of our founders preached that the world needed to become communist.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:43 am on Tue, Dec 17, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter wrote: "That fact that someone would idolize anyone that embodied that lifestyle is absolutely ludicrous."

    Your statement above, Mr. Baxxter, states "ANYONE." Millions/Billions of people idolize God. He did the same things that Mandela did.

    Why single out one man? Oh, that's right. Mandela is black and God is "white." Or at least Jesus is white according to Megyn Kelly. HA HA!

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:40 am on Tue, Dec 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Surely you are kidding. Who can help but NOT watch left leaning media. All you have to do is turn on ANY channel except FOX (which I don't watch) and you can't help but be exposed to liberal propaganda.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:35 am on Tue, Dec 17, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1501

    Joe it’s you that are being ludicrous don't we celebrate the shrugging off of tyranny every 4th of July and weren't the oppressors the same as Mandela fought during apartheid. Explain why it is Ok for us to take up arms using guerrilla warfare, at the time a completely honorable method of warfare, against our own government? How is that not treasonous?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:35 am on Tue, Dec 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Sorry to inform you Bobbin, I don't watch O'Reilly, FOX News nor di I subscribe to any conservative media. It doesn't take much to look aroun and see exactly what is transpiring in America. Marxists ideology abounds in our government. They all want to be royal dictators instead of elected officials representing American citizens.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:56 pm on Mon, Dec 16, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Right back to justifying someone else's actions by comparing them to anyone you can, eh? It doesn't matter what anyone else did, Mandela (and his wife) were terrorists and a murderers, PERIOD. That fact that someone would idolize anyone that embodied that lifestyle is absolutely ludicrous.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 10:13 am on Mon, Dec 16, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 444

    John Lucas wrote:" Your ignorance about the difference between Mandela and Mugabe is only matched by your hatred of Obama. Do some reading." I did,It was scholastically required. probably while you were serving in Viet Nam. How dare you to think that I put terrorists like Mugabe and Mandela in the same category as Obama! And for anyone to think that I put Obama in the same category as Mandela or Mugabe has totally missed my point. It just shows who did their history compared to current events. Make no mistake! Both Mandela and Mugabe were both terrorists.Obama wasn't. If Hitler served jail time and confessed his crimes and manipulated others by words instead of violence,instead of committing suicide, would you stand behind him too? If you answered yes, then we are really in deep doodoo.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:52 am on Mon, Dec 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    [thumbup][smile]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:50 am on Mon, Dec 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Do not bother. To not recognize the greatness of Mandela say everything anyone wants to know about your soul.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:48 am on Mon, Dec 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Robert Mugabe is a blood thirsty tyrant who in Zimbabwe has instituted a black apartheid. He has rigged elections, stolen property from farmers because they are white and has his thugs out to terrify both white and black political opponents. Your ignorance about the difference between Mandela and Mugabe is is only matched by the intensity of your hatred of Obama. Do some reading.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:11 pm on Sun, Dec 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Apparently. [rolleyes]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:05 pm on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter wrote: "Yo, Bobbin, what color are they?"

    Baxxter - since Santa Claus is a fictional character I imagine he could be any "color" YOU want him to be.

    As for Jesus - knowing his origin is in the Middle East, specifically Nazareth, I would think (and so should YOU if you had any brains) that he probably looked a lot like your average Arab or Jew (Semite) from Palestine. Maybe he looked exactly like Mohammed Atta for all you know!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:59 pm on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Good to see you are following Saint O'Reilly, Mr. Baxxter.

    See above to see what HIS and YOUR God have demanded of his followers and then compare that to Mandela's crimes.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:55 pm on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter wrote: "The fact that you idolize a terrorist and murderer of innocent civilians as a means to overthrow a government makes me feel sorry for YOU."

    That's really funny, Mr. Baxxter.

    You DO realize that "God decreed that the Jews massacre every man, woman, and child they encountered, that they slaughter every ox, goat, and sheep they came across, that they burn every farm, every field, every crop, every living thing without exception to ensure that the land would belong solely to those who worshiped ONE God and no other."

    "God told the Israelites, "you must not let anything that breathes remain alive. You shall annihilate them all." (Deuteronomy 20:17-18)

    And they did. Check your Bible.

    This is actual history. Not myth. And yet look how many WORSHIP that same God to this day. As I'm sure you do, too.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:13 am on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Andrew, most likely Idi Amin?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:07 am on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Yo, Bobbin, what color are they?

     
  • robert maurer posted at 10:49 am on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 444

    The comparison between Mandela and Mugabe is this : Both opposed apartheid governments,One cannot compare either to Obama. Mugabe was selected as leader of the 15 nation bloc South African development community-(SADC) in August,2013. That should make us feel better. Wake up! Mugabe hasn't excused us from class yet. Maybe we need to pay attention to what he says and does.(Black noise?)

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:33 am on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Mandela was a Marxist and a Communist sympathizer. I can see why Obama idolizes him as he espouses the exact same ideology. Yet the liberal lemmings idolize Obama as though he were some sort of diety when, in fact, he is nothing but a pathological liar and manipulator of the poor liberal minds.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:59 am on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. He mobilized terrorist bombing campaigns which killed many innocent people, including women and children. To celebrate his birthdays, Mandela would regularly open the prison doors and set many criminals, including armed robbers, murderers and rapists, free. Some of whom were murdering and raping within 24 hours of being released.

    Nelson Mandela’s wife, Winnie, earned infamy for herself for her urging followers to engage in the “necklacing” of political opponents–a tire is placed around the bound victim’s neck, doused in gasoline, and set on fire.

    Would Winnie be your number two hero Mr. Lucas?
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:25 am on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    The fact that you idolize a terrorist and murderer of innocent civilians as a means to overthrow a government makes me feel sorry for YOU.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:26 pm on Fri, Dec 13, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    All GOVERNMENT SPONSERED stations, eh Mr. Chang?

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 2:46 pm on Fri, Dec 13, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 508

    Joanne: Evidently you watch FOX to learn what the other side has to say. Laugh and relax, I would think after getting your fill of the other three monkees you would be like an angry lion in a cage that hasn`t eaten in a week. Since I don`t listen to a left-leaning TV or radio station, didn`t know there were any. After removing the right side of the dial, you turn it to the left and look for Howdy Duty on TV land, don`t know how to break the news to you, however Mr. Duty left ( hate that word ) many years ago.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:52 pm on Fri, Dec 13, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    It is really funny how different people look at things. In my pantheon of heroes Mandela is number one. If the British had won the Revolutionary war they would have accused the founding fathers of similar deeds and hung them all. What made Mandela did that was so special was what he did when he came to power and brought reconciliation to his country. Look at what Robert Mugabe did in his country. The difference is one man and his name was Mandela. The fact that you cannot get his greatness makes me feel sorry for you.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 9:26 am on Fri, Dec 13, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 444

    Here are some facts about Mandela that few will admit to or even know about. Check out plaintruthmagazine.blogspot.com/2010/...terrorist-nelson-mandela.html for at least 156 political and terrorist crimes he was convicted of. For the actual South Africa court vs. Mandela documents, check out Invictus Idolatry. How can anyone in their right mind compare Mandela to Obama? Yet the media portrays Mandela as some kind of hero. Even Robert Mugabe called Mandela a coward and an idiot, and these are the only printable names he said that I can type here without being censored.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:39 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Man, keep it up! It is comments like this that make Liberals love you. Keep up the good work!!!! You have to understand one thing about Liberals. We love to laugh.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:43 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1457

    [sleeping]
    White noise has a new definition...
    Class dismissed

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:57 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Ron and I share our Vietnam experience and he is a fellow truck driver. He is a brother. In life we only have one choice in every moment of every day. We can choose to act out of love or fear. For whatever reason he has chosen the ideology of fear. He is filled with anger and resentment. He is addicted to the feelings these ideas give him. I do not wish him the worst or anything bad. I am just pointing out what he is doing. His ideology is making him suffer enough.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:58 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Here for Ed Walters benefit - his favorite FOX News nonsense fabricator, Megyn Kelly, is embroiled in a controversy for declaring that both Santa and Jesus were white.

    Regarding Santa, a commenter said: “If you’re seriously emphatic that he is white and must remain white, there’s a good chance that your view of the rest of the world is just as limited and unimaginative. I mean, we are talking about a magical man who slides down your chimney every Christmas Eve. Just so we’re clear.”

    As for Jesus - he probably looked a whole lot like most other Middle Eastern Jews and semites, i.e., not exactly white.

    Poor Megyn!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:17 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Excellent, Mr. Chang.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:11 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxxter: What would make you say that liberals don't change the channel? Of course I watch FOX News to hear all the latest BS that Hannity, O'Riley, and the three morning monkees have to say - then I change the channel and laugh at their idiocy.

    Makes for a great moment to laugh and relax.

    I please, don't claim that YOU listen to left-leaning TV or radio. That would be a flat out fabrication.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:08 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "leave the hatred in the house" - this just goes to show that Ed considers MY post "hatred," but Ron Portal's letter DOESN'T express hatred.

    I think the first thing wrong with conservatives (and maybe they should blame public education for passing them from grade to grade without mastering Kindergarten) is that they have no ability to understand what they are reading and only read what they THINK is on the page.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 12:22 pm on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 508

    Joanne: Did it ever dawn on you that Barry is doing the best bashing without any help from anyone. That pic of him with a white guy and woman went viral the second it was taken by Barry himself, with a big smile. His wife was not all that happy about that, and if looks could kill, Joe would be the President. ( Parish the thought ) Raiting are down to an all time low, if you don`t like what you hear on the radio or TV, turn them off and go for a walk, and leave the hatred in the house, your dogs will love you just the same.

    John: You wish nothing but the worst for Ron, and then ask him to have a nice day. You leave me at a loss.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 10:53 am on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1117

    “picking up a load”

    Of stinking rotten garbage…

    No, not what Ron’s hauling, that would be toxic hazardous waste.

    I’m referring to what he’s listening to: angry white man radio, also known as conservative talk radio.

    These stations are all over the dial now in the Bay area and that’s too bad. Gone are all of the super stations that were popular with the diverse masses. These stations were once known for their featured local talent, factual news, traffic and weather reporting, good natured commentary and music. Not any more, today it’s a niche market with anger and hatred programing being one of the most popular niches! Now its 24/7 syndicated ranting via satellite.

    Fortunately there are great stations still available like KPFA, KQED and my favorite, KUSF.

    Folks, now regarding racism and discrimination…

    Let’s make one thing very clear, Ron, as a “conservative” white man, knows nothing about being on the receiving end of racism and discrimination. Nothing.

    Rejection maybe, these other things not so much!

    [smile]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:34 am on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1845

    Bobbin, the problem is LIBERALS don't change the channels and get other perspectives and viewpoints from anyoine else except the liberal lemming propagandists hell bent to expedite the socialistic takeover of America.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:53 am on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Well, another character assassination diatribe written by our friend Ron. Ron, you really need to do some work on your anger issues. The intense heat of your hatred for the President steams up from every word you write. Also, you may claim Reagan but no right wing person such as yourself can claim Nelson Mandela as one of your own. His whole persona was one of love and acceptance. Your whole persona is filled with hatred and resentment which fuels every word you write. This letter is just another example in a long line of example of this. Have a nice day, Ron!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:45 am on Thu, Dec 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Here's some advice, Ron - change the channel if you don't like what's being said.

    Seems your only purpose here was to take us all back to junior high with your bashing of President Obama. Not his policies. Just him personally.

    Time to grow up.

     

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