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Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:00 am
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Updated: 6:34 am, Wed Jun 20, 2012.
It is everyone’s job to find problems, offer solutions
People like me are perceived by the left to drone on and on about how the government is oppressive, meddling and contributes to California's problems. These same people think that when someone verbalizes this, it is nothing more than doom and gloom, alarmist mentality — that we are the part of the problem, as negativity and pessimism can be destructive.
Someone wrote a letter stating, "Sure, our government is broke, but there is not too much of it." He said that he is sick and tired of the whining and bellyaching about "too much government."
These people misunderstand. It is constructive, positive and optimistic to identify problems then offer solutions to fix them. People may not appreciate becoming aware of specific problems and perceive the messenger as "Chicken Little" — claiming the sky is falling — but ignoring reality is irresponsible.
Of course government is important and a necessity, but when the government becomes too powerful and controlling, it gets in the way of a productive business environment that creates jobs and employment for the middle class.
Solutions: Streamline and simplify government regulations and mandates, making it more attractive for private sector businesses. The government we have is neither cost-efficient nor sustainable economically. Private sector downsizes as a solution, and so should government. It should stop treating business as the enemy and something people need protection from, but instead view business as a friendly partner and support it enthusiastically. We need more jobs, not mandates that prevent them.
Darrell Baumbach
Lodi
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Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:00 am.
Updated: 6:34 am.
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Joe Baxter posted at 5:52 pm on Tue, Jun 26, 2012.
Darrell, interesting hypothesis. They say that hate and love are psychologically close.
Robert Chapman posted at 5:15 am on Tue, Jun 26, 2012.
Face it, your hypocrisy is appalling.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:39 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Joe stated... I wouldn't lose any sleep Darrell
Joe...thanks for the support but I think her anger and viciousness is really inappropriate flirting on her part. She claims to be a married woman so I wish she would pay attention to her husband rather than me… I told her I was married numerous times but she recently to my surprise posted that she thinks I am not married. I guess she is in denial and does not want to believe I am happily married.
In addition, I think she appreciates being held accountable for her inaccurate distortions and her special attention she pays to me is her way of giving me a compliment for my effort.
As far as her calling in favors, I simply assumed she was calling her bartender to deliver a beverage in order to bring down her blood pressure.
Joe Baxter posted at 5:57 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Obama spent $535 million in taxpayers dollars and Soyndra went down the tubes, taking about 1,000 jobs in the process AND you and I are left footing the bill. How about all the GM and Chrysler dealers he forced to close and the support businesses that depended on them? How many jobs were lost in that fiasco? Obama is the LAST person to point fingers about job loss and closing businesses. At least Bain used PRIVATE money, not taxpayer money. Obama is really, really good at wasting taxpayer money on his pet "green" projects that fail miserably sticking you, your children and their children with the debt.
Joe Baxter posted at 5:48 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
JOANNE BOBBIN posts: "I just may have to make a few phone calls today, Mr. Baumbach, and call in some favors."
Sounds like a violation of rule #3, NO THREATS.
I wouldn't lose any sleep Darrell.She pulled that same BS with me. She makes it sound like she has "connections" to intimidate you. She has ZIP, NADA, ZERO. Just a liberal blowhard.
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Thomas Heuer posted at 5:15 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Gee Bob
If I respond to your post here will it take another 4 days to get a response? Nothing like showing up late to the party. I would be interested to see what post you think I brought in Darrells family. I'll say it again I didn't mention Darrells family Darrell did. I believe it to be shameful to negatively drag someones family into these discussions they are not a part of. I thought it shameful on Darrells part to bring his own family in here with out them present just to gain talking points. I believe Darrell reached a new low.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:39 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Ms Bobin stated...Not surprising to learn that Mr. Baumbach watches "reality" shows...
These shows have about as much reality as Mr. Baumbach's opinions.
Actually, I do not consider these shows reality show. Just good old fashioned entertainment. However, I do place a dance show 3 steps higher in value that the Stewart show Ms Bobin thinks is reality.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:16 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Ms Bobin stated...He has also previously posted information about my "background" that he believes to be true
Ms Bobin... again, more distortion... I do not know anything about you. Another poster posted that you are from New York and what your last name is over and over. You have never refuted his contention. That was not me. I did one time ask you if the information was true or not, but you did not respond.
The only information I know about you is derived from what you posted. In this tread, I posted posts that you submitted word for word.
If there is something I have said that I was mistaken about, please correct it as truth and accuracy is important to me.
Joanne Bobin posted at 8:52 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
I personally could care less how many of my quotes Mr. Baumbach has in his archive.
What disturbs me more is his assertion that he maintains a file on me so he can prove that I have maligned him and he has lost clients due to my statements so he can eventually sue me.
Obviously, from the dates he put on the quotes below, he was archiving my comments long ago. Also, the comments have nothing to do with HIM.
He has also previously posted information about my "background" that he believes to be true, so he has obviously been doing some purposeful searches on me on Google and elsewhere.
I just may have to make a few phone calls today, Mr. Baumbach, and call in some favors. You are a SICK individual!
Joanne Bobin posted at 8:42 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
HAHA!
Not surprising to learn that Mr. Baumbach watches "reality" shows.
These shows have about as much reality as Mr. Baumbach's opinions.
Gary Musto posted at 8:41 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Bain Capital has been targeted by the lefty leftist and they must be destroyed at all costs. They have been accused of tearing down the Middle Class, leaving many without jobs and shipping jobs overseas.
This would be terrible if it was true, yes some jobs are sent overseas but what is Obama going to do to counter this, well he has appointed GE President Jeff Immelt to his "jobs and competitiveness" council.
Since Immelt has taken over in 2001, GE has shipped over 34,000 jobs overseas while amassing over $14.2 billion in international profits, including $5.1 billion in the US while paying NO federal income taxes last year.
Former Democrat Senator Russ Feingold, "Someone like Immelt, who has helped his company evade taxes on its huge profits...and is now looking to workers to take major pay cuts after his compensation was doubled to ($15.2 million) should not lead the administration effort to create jobs."
President Obama appoints Jeff Immelt to his jobs council, Immelt makes a cool $15.2 million running GE that pays no Federal taxes while shipping thousands of jobs overseas, but it's Romney who is suppose to be hurting the Middle class, no wonder people wonder about the Presidents fitness for office.
Eric Barrow posted at 7:25 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Union members knew that they would pay dues when they took the job and agreed to it. The union dues help elect people who are pro union and pro worker, get over it
Eric Barrow posted at 7:22 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Why would unions support repubs who want to destroy them and the middle class?
Robert Chapman posted at 5:56 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.
Seems to me that Mr.Heuer is whining about the very thing that he engages in himself. Apparently he feels it is OK to drag Mr. Baumbach's family members in question, but feels it is "despicable" when others do the same to one of his fellow liberals.
BOBIN: "I doubt that he has ever been married."
HEUER: "Hmmmm never married? Now that is something that never crossed my mind. However that could answer some questions."
Just what "questions" are you referriing to Mr. Heuer?
K Lee posted at 2:37 pm on Sun, Jun 24, 2012.
I agree, Thomas Heuer. Well said. People like Joe Baxter and Darrell Baumbach like to drag in the families of other posters here when they launch their personal attacks (and then they whine when they get what they dish out!). It's disgusting and only shows their lack of integrity and character. Their inability to actually speak on, or debate, a topic without attacking the family of other posters, just because they disagree with them, just proves they’ve run out of ways to back up their point of view. In other words... their ugly ignorance is showing. It’s just shameful.
K Lee posted at 2:25 pm on Sun, Jun 24, 2012.
LOL!
Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:35 am on Sun, Jun 24, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated...This is such an obsession with you which is made even more unsettling with your accusations against Joanne being supported by posts
Obsession? Accusation again Ms Bobin?.. No Mr Heuer... I was not making accusations. I was making a statement of truth. By me posting what she typed, I am not making accusations but just answered the question"YOU" asked...
Also, you are making a big deal out of the number of posts I make. All I can say is that your observation is meaningless. This is an opinion forum. I like everyone else expresses what they think. If participating in exressing what you think bothers you, I suggest you do something else.
You appear to be unsettled and developing emotional problems over the number of blogs I post... sad... since it is so insignificant.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:12 pm on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated...This is incredible since past posts are not available that far back...
You are showing your ignorance... yes... they are available.
Lastly,you are confused Mr Heuer...you asked me a question... I then answered the question you asked...you then belittle me for answering the question you asked... just who is "certifiable." Mr Heuer?
Thomas Heuer posted at 6:25 pm on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Darrell
Looks like you've been posting away long into the night and early this morning. This is truely weird and approaching seriously "certifiable." This is such an obsession with you which is made even more unsettling with your accusations against Joanne being supported by posts from last year and adding "I could post 15 diferent instances where she has made this claim." This is incredible since past posts are not available that far back. Then you admonish me with "Maybe you should pay better attention." I have to remind you my paultry less than 200 posts don't go back as far as your over 7000 posts. So when Joanne says you save all these and other posts in your own files its true which is pretty strange to say the least. This need to have the last word which you usually get by default just by wearing people out (hence posting in the night alone) is beyond comprehension to say the least again. Most people have other lives. You've made this an occupation.
You go on to say about Joanne "I think anyone who believes they see things that are not there can be classified as certifiable. Just an opinion..." You throw stuff out there which you build a premise on even after you admit it's an opinion. You weren't where Joanne was at the time nor obviously have you heard the expression just because someone is paranoid doesn;t mean they aren't actually threatened
.
After pretending to be insulted over my remark to Jerome about conservatives its not long before the pure hypocracy is revealed when you directed toward me "you being a liberal... it would not surprise me if you see things that are not there as well." Another post offers "...giving ol Ronnie the finger...yes...that is a wonderful example of the attitude and goodness of a typical liberal." So if you resent my broad brush characterizations of conservatives I'm only returning your serve. And note I didn't have to go back a year to find these liberal slurs and wouldn't have to go back far to find lots more.
One last clean up item you remarked about campaign donations to Obama "...the wealthy funneled his way in order to buy his favors... thats the old Chicago way." The post otherwise wasn't bad till this last "...the old Chicago way." was added. So how are donations to candidates for favors any different in Chicago than anywhere else?
Patrick W Maple posted at 3:12 pm on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
mrh: Why should he? Why should he tell the truth?? Why should be forthcoming about his own contributors??? HE is the one who said HE would be the "most transparent" administration in history. It is the difference between integrity and bull---t. BO is but a suit of this. Besides, according to him it is your fault anyway.
Patrick W Maple posted at 3:08 pm on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
mrb: I watch the news...many channels, read the newspapers, Bee, Sentinel, Herald, WSJ, Chronicle, Times and others. Read all new regs, laws and govt edicts.
" It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." Sun Tzu (6th century BCE)
I know my adversaries better than they know themselves.
Gary Musto posted at 7:34 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Eric, "use them in political campaigns" that are designed to take the members dues and shuttle it to the Democrat party, over 90% of unions back Democrat candidates which is fine, the Citizens United decision did not change anything Unions thugs can do to rob their members of their hard earned money.
Gary Musto posted at 7:28 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
The Citizens United ruling also favored Unions Ms Bobin, who steal from their own members and force them to give of their dues to only Democrat candidates no matter if they might want to back someone else.
Gary Musto posted at 7:12 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Speaking of ignorant Ms Bobin, how can you of all people criticize anyone when it comes to low grade attacks, if the name Sarah Palin was even mentioned you would be one of the first on this site spewing all the hate you liberals so desperately try to hide.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:38 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Continued... to answer Mr Heuers question of what I relied on talk about Ms Bobin's bigots she sees around every corner...
4. Joanne Bobin posted at 12:41 pm on Wed, Jun 15, 2011... Just in case Mr. Baumbach is anywhere around this article, I'm mapping the location of each of the commentors below who are proving my claim of "a bigot around every corner in Lodi."
Not only are they bigoted, they appear to be quite dense also...AND I think that Mr. Baxter has exceeded his limit on racist comments already today between this and two other articles!
Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:36 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated... What purpose does it serve for you to demean by saying "...admits to seeing Bigots around every corner..." Where is that post you relied on for this?
Mr Heuer... glad to verify and answer your question.... Maybe you should pay better attention.
1. Joanne Bobin posted at 5:44 pm on Wed, Jun 15, 2011... Don't worry, Mr. Baumbach. While walking through Lodi I don't have to look under rocks, through windows, etc. All I have to do is enjoy a cup of coffee at Starbucks at 6AM and eavesdrop on the Boys Club (retired police, fire and sheriffs) who convene there daily, to hear some hair-curling bigoted talk. How do I know what their occupations were? One would have to be deaf to not hear them brag about their huge retirement checks and benefits.
2. Ms Bobin posted at 9:46 am on Mon, Aug 22, 2011... The above may be way too much for you to absorb in one sitting, so I suggest that you re-read before flying off with comments that have nothing to do with my remarks.
If you still conclude that Mr. Sunderson is a bigot, then I guess I'll just have to add him to my list of "corners" around which Lodi's bigots are slyly skulking.
3. Joanne Bobin posted at 11:26 am on Thu, Nov 17, 2011... I have always known that Ms. Parigoris was one of the "bigots around every corner" here in Lodi, but her post today proves it beyond a doubt.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:16 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Ms Heuer stated...Darrell And what are you credentials for declareing someone certifiable?
Humm... it is not a matter of credentials but common sense. Ms Bobin proudly claims in her own words that she sees bigots around every corner in Lodi... when asked if she is sure, she insists that yes... they are definitely around every corner. I could post 15 diferent instances where she has made this claim.
I think anyone who believes they see things that are not there can be classified as certifiable. Just an opinion... you being a liberal... it would not surprise me if you see things that are not there as well. But you have never indicated that you do as Joanne Bobin has.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:09 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
just like the activist giving ol Ronnie the finger...
yes...that is a wonderful example of the attitude and goodness of a typical liberal. Thanks for bringing up that example.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:07 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.
Eric is right... unions will force people to pay dues if they want to work and use the middle class money to buy democrats... yes, they will remain as corrupt as they always have been.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:51 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated...Why should he? What a measly amount.
Good Question!!!!!! Middle class people were duped into thinking Obama was on their side... but the 1% ters know better... just like Bain Capital executives...
In the spring and summer of 2007, Obama raised $7.7 million from the financial industry, while Romney brought in $5.1 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Four years and one great recession later, Obama has already raised $4.2 million fom his rich investors.
Yes...Obama talks a middle class game... but does anyone think Obama played 100 rounds of golf with Joe the plummer?... No.. its the wealthy who admire Obama's driver and what he can do with it.
So Mr Heuer is right... why should Obama give back one penny that the wealthy funneled his way in order to buy his favors... thats the old Chicago way.
Thomas Heuer posted at 8:39 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Joe I had no interest in Darrells family till he brought it up. Your "One has to wonder..." simple question leaves a big innuendo hole of slanderous proportions. but the dispicable part is you aimed it at her daughtter who has nothing to do with the discussion here and is not available to defend herself. It wass uncalled for by any standard , political leaning is irrelavant.
Joe Baxter posted at 8:15 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Apparently all you need to know about Mitt Romney and Bain Capital is what you learned in OweBama campaign ads. I suggest you take an in depth look at Bain Capital portfolio and learn the truth for yourself, not the BS that your liberal stooges want you believe. There are thousands of people employed because cash and management from Bain saved their jobs by saving failing compainies. Why doesn't St. Barry talk about these? Typical liberal ploy, accentuate the negative, ignore the positive and make up smears. Obama is running scared and and has poor Axelrod working 24/7 trying to dig up dirt on Romney. High school bully was the best he could do?
Joe Baxter posted at 7:56 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
What business is it of yours about Mr. Baumbach's family status? I guess it is permissible to attack conservatives on the "low" side but not fair when done by conservatives? Besides, I didn't "smear" anyone, merely made a TRUE statement and asked a simple question.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:01 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Ms Bobin stated...Since bigots agree with bigots, they find it easy to make these claims.
Please Ms Bobin.. Its safe outside and you can go for a walk and will not be harassed by bigots around other corner. I feel so sorry for you. You have my pity.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:58 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Tea party conservatives... no Mr Heuer... no Tea party member had the signs you talked about. They were paid union thugs that were hired to make it appear tea party people were responsible. In fact, many tea party officials denounced any sign that was like you stated...
If this type of thing were actually representative of the Tea Party, it would have been seen often and over and over. Obviously, you are simply distorting reality and characterizing this in an extreme false light.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:50 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Ms Bobin stated...I can only think, since Mr. Baumbach claims he watches no TV
Ms Bobin... never happened... I stated I do not watch traditional news programs on TV.. I have stated I watch CSPAN often which is on TV. I also enjoy Judge Judy and x Factor as well as So you think you can dance.
As far as web sites... I do not save websites... I google search a topic and go to the websites that address that topic. I normally get many perspectives from different angles that way...
I sincerely wish you would offer accurate information instead of your daily distortions and attempts to spread rumor and gossip.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:38 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Ms Bobin stated...WASHINGTON — A second Bush administration gun-trafficking investigation has surfaced using the same controversial tactic for which congressional Republicans have been criticizing the Obama administration.
Ms Bobin.. you must have been in a comma.. that is ancient history and news... unfortunately for you, you are clueless as to how his program was dramatically different in intent and execution.
In the operation under Bush, guns were not allowed to walk. They were traced and many arrests we made as a result... no American died or was injured as a result.
Under the Obama/holder tragedy of a plan, who ever authorized it decided to use "gunwalking" as laid out in a January 2010 briefing paper. The tactic of letting guns walk, rather than interdicting them and arresting the buyers, led to controversy within the ATF. As the case continued, several members of Group VII, including John Dodson and Olindo Casa, became increasingly upset at the tactic of allowing guns to walk.
This led to ATF wistle blowers who testified under oath that gunwalking was allowed for the first time and these officials were shocked that it was approved by the Obama Administration.
Thank you for bringing up Bush's strategy as it demonstrates how stupid and irresponsible the Obama Administration is and how responsible and smart the Bush administration was.
Thomas Heuer posted at 6:25 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Why should he? What a measly amount.
Thomas Heuer posted at 6:15 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Darrell
And what are you credentials for declareing someone certifiable? Is this again a case of takes one to know one? What purpose does it serve for you to demean by saying "...admits to seeing Bigots around every corner..." Where is that post you relied on for this? Why the capital B on bigots? What is the point of "...continue to drink her cool-aid. You deserve it." What is it I deserve? So with "...you just contributed to gossip. I never stated or implied that all my family are liberals." I guess we are even since you contributed to gossip when you said repeatedly I was a follower of Saul Alinsky either directly or indirectly. In regards to family liberals I can only work with what you provide. And to Eric you said "I do not however believe you when you state you listen to Rush." There is no wiggle room, there is no way around it, you called Eric a liar. When I responded to Jerome "...your pied piper state led by Fox and Co..." in response to his pied pauper liberal followers you interjected "I am thankful you said this." which made little sense.and I asked for an explanation and you of course ignored it because it probably didn't make sense to you either. It was late and maybe you slipped a couple of sleep aids. How would I know you didn't give me much to work with again. And now you got Joe worked up to where he is making derogatory remarks about Joannes daughter. Absolutly shameful.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:50 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
President Obama Won’t Be Returning His Donations From Bain Capital
By Hunter Walker 5/24 8:33pm
Though the Obama campaign has repeatedly attacked Mitt Romney for his career at Bain Capital, President Obama still accepted $7,500 in campaign contributions from two Bain executives. His campaign press secretary, Ben LaBolt told The Politicker the president has no intention of giving the money back.
Eric Barrow posted at 5:29 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Gotta agree Joanne I vote for the parents basement.
Eric Barrow posted at 5:27 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
That's right Gary they didn't it's considered free speech just like the activist giving ol Ronnie the finger
Eric Barrow posted at 5:26 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
No Gary I actually agreed with that decision I was referring to Citizens United decision. By the way it does not stop unions from collecting dues it only stops them from automatically hitting up there members for special occasion dues. Unions will still collect normal dues and will still use them in political campaigns
Eric Barrow posted at 5:19 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Darrell I don't recall mentioning anything The Great Blimpster said I was talking about his ridiculous although very entertaining fans.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:46 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Happy to answer that question... but first, answer one question I have...
Do you think you understand Obama's ideas by watching the news? If so, please give me the name of the most reliable broadcasts that you think you are learning his ideas from.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:43 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
You missed my point Eric... You may have heard Rush speak .... but based on your comments, I still do not believe you listened
( comprehended) to what he said. That does not mean I think you are a liar. Clueless to draw appropriate conclusions as to what his words really mean.. maybe...
Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:29 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
I agree with Eric. There should be concern over the billionairres
8 of 32 Billionairres supporting Obama campaign are...
1. Warren Buffet
2. George Soros
3. Bill Gates
4. Eli Broad
5. Paul Allen
6. Barry Diller
7. Sam Zell
8. Kenneth Griffin
Thomas Heuer posted at 4:26 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Joe really what business is it of yours? And you are going to smear the daughter as well? Conservatives seem to be reaching new lows in their desperation to stay on the losing side of their positions.
Thomas Heuer posted at 4:14 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Most news medias are produced as entertainment especially cable news. Serious journalism is nearly dead. Rush for years has been in the entertainment business just as Howard Stern is. Its all about how shocking and sensational it can be made to get you to listen. Anything that can challenge the status quo. There is no time or money for investigative journalism. Yes and I am a big fan of C-Span especially Book TV but I have little patience or time for the congressional meetings/hearings. Yes Darrell thinks its OK to call someone a liar but can't take what he dishes out. The maturity is lacking.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:13 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Eric stated...I thought you said you didn't watch the news?
Do you perceive that the only means for me to know the information I posted is to watch the news?
Hint... you tube clips... debates that discuss what happens in the news and who is doing what... also...wikipedia reasearch articles.
Joanne Bobin posted at 4:12 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
And is is surprising that cash hound Mitt Romney and Bain Capital, it was revealed today, was a "pioneer" in job oursourcing to India, China, and Europe?
I am shocked that a man who claims to be devoted to his religion, claims to be a Christian, has made his money at the expense of American workers.
No matter how much he tithes to his church, his position, if any, in heaven will be in question.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:04 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Mr Heuer... Its actually humorous that you would believe Ms Bobin who admits to seeing Bigots around every corner in Lodi. She is certifiable.
I hope you continue to drink her cool-aid. You deserve it. In addition, you just contributed to gossip. I never stated or implied that all my family are liberals. I stated that both and mom and wife are retired teachers. Both worked with the union. Both are liberal orientated. However, I have many in the family that are conservative. especially my family members that are Mexican.
It is funny that you cannot get over your stereotype where someone like me would would have the experiences I describe.
I make mistakes like everyone else, but I do not lie. What I say is how it is...
Joanne Bobin posted at 4:01 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Sounds like liberal justices DO NOT vote party lines. When they see an injustice, they vote the correct way.
Sorry to say that conservative justices do not do the same. Witness the Citizens United decision. It favored Republican candidates who receive most of their politcal contributions from corporations and billionaires.
But that's OK with you - anything favoring Republicans it just great, right Mr. Musto?
Joanne Bobin posted at 3:57 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Just as right wing extremists portrayed President Obama as Hitler and a monkey at the TEA Party rallies?
Seriously, Mr. Musto...are you that ignorant that you BELIEVE that President Obama was present and egged on these morons?
The difference is that liberals RECOGNIZE idiots behaving badly.
Conservatives make excuses for them or claim it never happened (as with TEA Party rallies even though there is video and photographic evidence to support these idiotic happenings).
I really feel sorry for conservatives' limited ability to distinguish between right and wrong, especially when they agree with the right-wing morons who perpetrate it.
This is right up there with certain individuals on this website who claim there are no bigots in Lodi. Since bigots agree with bigots, they find it easy to make these claims.
Joanne Bobin posted at 3:48 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Mr. Baumbach wrote: "the complaint with Obama is his policies and legislation he promotes ( like Obamacare and “Fast & Furious”)."
I can only think, since Mr. Baumbach claims he watches no TV, that he often visits the websites of news outlets such as FOX News. Easy to claim you do not WATCH FOX, but since we know you are addicted to the Internet to the point that while you are allegedly visiting Thailand you cannot stay away from the LNS website, it is most likely that you are attached to conservative websites like an umbilical cord attaches a baby and its mother.
Since you DO NOT look at any other websites other than conservative ones (as evidenced by your limited world view and proclivity for quoting opinions from extreme right-wing websites), you would know that Fast and Furious was not an Obama program. It started in 2006 under GWB:
"WASHINGTON — A second Bush administration gun-trafficking investigation has surfaced using the same controversial tactic for which congressional Republicans have been criticizing the Obama administration.
The tactic, called "gun walking," is already under investigation by the Justice Department's inspector general and by congressional Republicans, who have criticized the administration of Democratic President Barack Obama for letting it happen in an operation called "Fast and Furious."
"Emails obtained by The Associated Press show how in a 2007 investigation in Phoenix, agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives – depending on Mexican authorities to follow up – let guns "walk" across the border in an effort to identify higher-ups in gun networks. Justice Department policy has long required that illicit arms shipments be intercepted whenever possible."
Operation Wide Receiver....Google it, Mr. Baumbach.
Joe Baxter posted at 3:35 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
BOBIN is so proud she is married to a Mexican she won't even use his last name as her married name. Way to go Joanne. One has to wonder if her or her daughter use their Hispanic surname for "minority" considerations?
Gary Musto posted at 3:10 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Eric, you didn't mention the Supreme Court's 7-2 ruling that SEIU violated the free speech rights of 28,000 so-called "fair share" non-members by coercing them to finance political campaigns in 2005 and 2006.
That can't be right, that 7-2 vote means a couple of lefty leftist joined with the conservatives to let the corrupt unions know that trying to force and bully hard working men and women to support some candidates they don't want will not be tolerated anymore.
Gary Musto posted at 2:53 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Well Romney's campaign hasn't broken any laws have they, as far as corporations and donations, unions have the same rights as well don't they, the far right leaning Supreme Court said they do, you say they don't???
Problem for the unions since their beat down in Wisconsin is that they have lost the right to rob their members of their dues and assign it to mostly Democrat candidates through out the country.
Gary Musto posted at 2:31 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
How about Yahoo news Eric, that main stream enough for you, as far as pictures of Obama, guess you never got a chance to see the ones of George Bush where he is being hung, shot, stabbed, called every name under the sun, burned in effigy, mocked, etc.
By the way, let me know when Hollywood makes a movie depicting the assassination of Obama like they did with Bush or is that your version of free speech??
Thomas Heuer posted at 1:12 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Thanks Joanne I had my suspicions and he also mentioned his family are all liberals including his wife. Hmmmm never married? Now that is something that never crossed my mind. However that could answer some questions.
Thomas Heuer posted at 1:05 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Gary did you see Tea Party conservatives with pictures of Obama with a Hitler mustaches or of his face placed on a monkeys body? Didn't we already discuss the "Blaze" as a not to respected a source of anything but entertainment for the conservatively impaired?
Thomas Heuer posted at 12:51 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Did not hear that
Eric Barrow posted at 12:49 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Can't help you there Darrell can't remember the last time I watched MSNBC, I don't even have cable. I thought you said you didn't watch the news?
Eric Barrow posted at 12:47 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Darrell that's about the fourth time in the last few days you've called me a liar. I don't appreciate it. I listen to Rush several times a week I mostly love callers that fawn all over the Blimpster and moan and wail that the liberals are destroying this country. Hilarious!
Eric Barrow posted at 12:41 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Funny you are worried about a couple of activist flipping off a picture but not about 8 billionaires trying to buy an election for the Presidency of the United states and you think liberalism is a mental disorder.
I'm not concerned about how much money a campaign receives especially when it comes from many disclosed donors, supporting a campaign is democratic. I am concerned about a few undisclosed donors raising most of one politicians money and a Supreme Court that believes corporations are people. If corporations are people who goes to jail when their negligence gets somebody killed?
Eric Barrow posted at 12:03 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Already checked it out, that's called free speech aint this country great.
You didn't mention how you felt about Romney's campaign financing?
Gary Musto posted at 11:49 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Funny when Obama was out raising his competitors in 2008 he never worried about who gave what to who and how much, now he is behind on his fund raising and he wants Romney to disclose his donors.
Priorities USA Action, a leftist Super Pac has given Obama over 4 million dollars in May, most since they formed back in 2011. They have teamed with SEIU to purchase TV ads in Hispanic regions of the nation to promote Obama's agenda.
Obama has already blown through almost half of the $80 million he has taken in since April and as of the end of May his total has fallen to a little over $44 million.
Don't worry yourself Eric, there a few hundred more $35,000 per plate fundraising dinners out there to be hosted by poor, caring, and compassionate Democrats to help line the pockets of President Barack Hussein Obama so he can follow through on his plan of "Hope and Change."
Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:46 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
good observation Eric... however, that brings up another issue...
MSNBC brought the American flag on screen and regularly ran a tribute called "America's Bravest" which showed photographs sent by family members of troops deployed in Iraq... may I ask Eric, now that Bush is gone and Obama is in power, do you think MSNBC is showing the same intensity and outrage of soldiers dying as they did under Bush.
Gary Musto posted at 11:37 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Barack Hussein Obama, in a campaign speech when running for president mentioned the US fighting in Afghanistan as the "good war" in regards to the Iraq conflict being the "bad."
Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:37 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
I'll bet you and Darrell don't spend much time watching PBS Newshour... that is true Eric, I admit I
do not watch PBS.
My favorite is CSPAN 1-2and 3... This provides unedited debates and meetings. I love the book reviews where the person who writes the book talks about it and the audience has an opportunity to ask questions.
I like debate format and hearing unedited information directly from the source rather that hearing what typical News organization put out.
I do not however believe you when you state you listen to Rush. To say your motive is because he is hilarious is typical left wing speak for actually stating he is an entertainer and content is not serious in any way...
I have never heard anyone talk about conservative people's statements directly word for word. Just interpretations of words stated out of context which distorts the actual intent of what was actually stated.
Joanne Bobin posted at 11:35 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Mr. Baumbach wrote: "For example, My knowledge of Mexican culture , conditions and politics is from direct experience. My family and relatives are mostly Mexican. I know 5 people by first name basis that benefit from the Dream Act. I know 11 people on a first name basis that live in California that are undocumented. Your assertion that my knowledge was force fed by Fox is insulting. At least that is what my wife, who is Mexican, told me."
Mr. Heuer - don't let Mr. Baumbach fool you with this comment. He has been using his "Mexican, school teacher wife" as a cover for years to somehow show that he is unbiased and unbigoted toward Hispanics and union members.
I doubt that he has ever been married.
Thomas Heuer posted at 11:27 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Thank you I forgot that one.
Thomas Heuer posted at 11:20 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Well said Eric
Thomas Heuer posted at 11:14 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
OK lets be clear here;
1 I do not have 16 television sets all tuned to a different news station at the same time
2 I do not watch news 24/7
3 I also get news on the internet
You seem to be concerned about death reports. I hear death reports all the time but I don't keep track of where I heard it. It may have been reported but I just wasn't watching at the time. If there is some information I want to know I would probably Google it and find many sources. I'm not sure where you got your information and how it relates to media bias. To compare Afgan now with Iraq reporting the case may just be that America has a war weariness that effects reporting. Most people just want the wars over so counts already too high are not the issue. I also don't know where you got the notion some one has decided there is a "good war" which is something of an oxymoron. I can't imagine identifying any war as a "good war" not even a legitimate war where we are directly under attack on our soil which may be undesirable but necessary.
Gary Musto posted at 11:02 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Eric, so you listen to Rush, did you happen to catch his program this morning, he mentioned how President Obama hosted the nations first "Gay Pride" event at the White House.
He also mentioned the photos of the same Gay activists flipping the "bird" while standing under the portrait of President Reagan are available on "TheBlaze" website.
If you get a chance, take a gander of those progressives flipping off a picture of Present Reagan hanging in the White House and tell me that liberalism isn't a mental disorder.
Eric Barrow posted at 10:28 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Gary it was reported last night that the vast amount of Obama's campaign financing has come from private donors who's donations must be disclosed while almost all of Romney's campaign donations come from undisclosed superpac funds. If you really worried about transparency in government you might be concerned about that. Romney only has 15 million dollars worth of donations left that did not come from superpacs while Obama has well over a 100 million. If it hadn't been for the citizens United decision, from the right leaning Supreme Court, Romney wouldn't stand a chance. The Supreme Court gave Bush his first victory and it appears they may give Romney his in 2012.
Eric Barrow posted at 10:17 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Gary PBS Newshour shows video of every soldier that lost his life in Afghanistan and Iraq, on a nightly basis, as their deaths are confirmed and families notified. They have done this since the wars started and continue to do so today.
Gary Musto posted at 10:02 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Tom you mentioned how you watch quite a few TV stations to get most of your news.
I was wondering if you noticed any reporting last week on the 2,000 death in Afghanistan of our brave soldiers?
The only MSM station to cover the reported death in Obama's "good war" was a fifteen second blurb given by CBS reporter David Martin.
In 2005 during the Bush administration over 15 reports were given by the same stations you mentioned in your post on the 2,000 death suffered in Iraq.
When people mention that there is no MSM bias I just have to laugh.
Eric Barrow posted at 8:51 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Darrell if you don't watch any news how do out find out about Obama's ideas that you perceive to be bad for this country
Eric Barrow posted at 8:46 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
pm Who said "these people" Don't watch Fox. I think many liberals watch Fox I certainly do have for years. In about twenty minutes I'm going to listen to Rush I think he's hilarious. Fox is more serious I watch it to get an idea of where conservatives are today. I think it's only conservatives that are unwilling to listen to opposite views it's to much of a challenge to the fragile reality. Most of the conservatives I know don't watch any news and aren't very political they just send chain e-mails back and forth about the latest Obama conspiracy theory and tune in to right wing extreme websites. I'll bet you and Darrell don't spend much time watching PBS Newshour.
Thomas Heuer posted at 8:36 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Darrell your words;
"...inability to make any kind of intellectual rebuttal of what conservatives talk about."
"How about talking about the points, ideas and thoughts expressed. How about substantiating what they perceive to be truth and refuting the specific points they think are Fox lies..."
And thats what I did. I watch news, all news Fox, MSNBC, CNN, NPR, PBS, network news, etc unlike Darrell who professes to not watch any news if you are to believe his words which is hard. He tends to say anything to have the last word.
This is how I recognized the Jerpme comment as the same as was presented (or partially presented) on Fox. So I was discussing Fox points. Then yesterday we were discussing Texas and taxes before you displayed your" inability to make any kind of intellectual rebuttal of what conservatives talk about." Maybe you should assess you maturity to participate in these discussions.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:41 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Pat...I think their "Anti-Fox" commentary is simply evidence of their inability to make any kind of intellectual rebuttal of what conservatives talk about. How lazy can one be simply to say..oh...he watches Fox... end of discussion.
How about talking about the points, ideas and thoughts expressed. How about substantiating what they perceive to be truth and refuting the specific points they think are Fox lies...
You are so right... they look like a laughing stock yet claim to be enlightened.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:07 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
Funny... you disparage millions of "right wing" people by stating The pied piper syndrome seems to exist more on the right since you all maintain the same hysterias... then go through all the reasons your false perception make the people you do not like look like non thinking morons... You cast such a wide net that all conservatives would fit in your description. I am conservative so it was appropriate to assume you were talking about me, Pat, Jerry and just about anyone who thinks Obama's policies are bad for our country.
and thank you for the kind thougtful compliment. You stating I have reached a new low (from your perception) is wonderful since that would mean I was honest and accurate in my comments as truth hurts when it is your ears hearing it.
Patrick W Maple posted at 5:23 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.
DB: Isn't it funny how these people know so much about what goes on at Fox News...but they never watch it. They know so much about you...but they've never been to your home. It is amazing what these people THINK they know.
Thomas Heuer posted at 10:40 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Now you are being hypocritical and disingenuous.You engage in what was your words "distractions and avoiding any kind of meaningful dialogue..." And please don't respond for Jerome he is quite capable. I think you have sunk to a new low here.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:39 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Uh Mr heuer...In your response to Mr Kinderman you stated... "The pied piper syndrome seems to exist more on the right (that would be conservative) since you all maintain the same hysterias...
The right and all it's hysteria's was the focus of your post. First you insult Mr Kinderman and now my wife. We did not mix anything... I suggest you learn how to articulate your point so your intent is achieved. One person is not referred to as "all". Clearly you were talking about millions of people and insulted many.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:12 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Darrell
Again I agree with your
"I do not believe California cannot change course and compete."
However the only thing you focused on was the difference in texas taxes. Not much to tackle all the problems of Calif with in a post. I'm still left with alot of homework. I think what we have here is a failure to communicate.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:03 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Uh Darrell
You are responding to my post to Jerome where he said at 8:51 am on Thu, Jun 21
"some foods have been laced with a new drug that causes a sort of Pied Piper Syndrome ("PPS").
Obama said what he said regarding precisely what he did regarding this illegal alien amnesty move."
I know from previous posts you don't watch FOX and your posts do not reflect that. However Jeromes comment was from a Fox news edited video. Do convey to your wife my apologies for your mix up. However I'm not sure I understand your "I am thankful you said this." statement..
Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:09 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated... I could start by saying how are you effected directly and why do you care but your pied piper state led by Fox and Co. has already fed you the force fed responses...
I am thankful you said this. Obviously, it proves you do not have a hidden cam in my house because if you did, you would see that I rarely watch any news including fox on TV. It is amazing that you are so extremely condescending with your piped piper analogy. For example, My knowledge of Mexican culture , conditions and politics is from direct experience. My family and relatives are mostly Mexican. I know 5 people by first name basis that benefit from the Dream Act. I know 11 people on a first name basis that live in California that are undocumented. Your assertion that my knowledge was force fed by Fox is insulting. At least that is what my wife, who is Mexican, told me.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:46 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated...The premis is clear: get rid of taxes and business will boom. I get it...
No, you do not get it at all. I was simply giving one example. Reduced taxes is only one step of many that need to be considered. I clearly stated that we not copy Texas but learn from them. We are not Texas. We can do things Texas cannot. The debate should be on what "CALIFORNIA" can do to attract business and jobs. I do not believe California cannot change course and compete.
Thomas Heuer posted at 6:08 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Darrell
This is where you don't get it. You provide a couple of posts that summarizes a discovery you've made that compared California to Texas regarding taxes and Business. In one post you outline this contrast , and in another you credential an author, Leo Gilroy and in another (I presume the first in the series) are some statistics. I appreceate your sharing your overview pointing in the direction for further information. The premis is clear: get rid of taxes and business will boom. I get it. However I have lots of questions and your posts mostly say OK in order to get the solutions I have to do the home work. I never heard of L Gilroy so I will look him up. However I do know who Sally Pipes is and I don't think highly of her. She is course and intellectually challenged. Now you and other conservatives often claim businesses are leaving Calif in mass. I have no actual statistics nor do I have the statistics for business coming to Calif or new start ups. Then we need the same statistics for Texas. Now I'm not a big fan of Texas which I am willing to overlook to allow a comparison about business. Once you know the business traffic then you can see the scope of any problem The analysis can begin as to what kind of business is moving, reasons for moving, what other incentives are offered and it may not be taxes or regulations as much as you think, Because you want to lower taxes for yourself I fear you look for that kind of solution. Even you say Texas is not Calif. But because you provide an overview of a possible solution is not a solution especially if I feel I just got a homework assignment 1 to verify your findings, 2 research the the author Gilroy and 3 research Calif budget with Texas' budget to come up with any viable solutions.
PS I don't recall calling anyone names.
Patrick W Maple posted at 4:18 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
msb: mrgordon was the only board member to bring up anything about what I say here (because it was said about him)...is what you want is someone who only says what you want to hear? No challenges to your thoughts? No other perspective? Lock-step education? BTW four other people attended the second meeting (including former board members) and stated that I had raised a legitimate issue. Give the facts not your idiocy.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:00 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated...First there is the Obama hysteria which is never clear what the motive is behind it.
More fantasy and gross mischaracterizations... the complaint with Obama is his policies and legislation he promotes ( like Obamacare and “Fast & Furious”). Obama is a nice guy who has a wonderful family, great smile and promotes hope and change. That is it!
Its simple Mr Heuer... no hysteria, no conspiracy and no confusion. You want everyone to perceive it is kooks and nuts that are against Obama for wacky reasons... but that is simply a calculated lie. Obama's polices are bad...period.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:38 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Oh well.. tried to bring a constructive topic where problems can be identified and solutions offered. Evidently, Mr Heuer and Ms Bobin is content and enthusiastic about calling people names and distorting reality.
Actually, this goes to identify another problem.. incivility and enjoyment in the left side of the isle in distractions and avoiding any kind of meaningful dialogue in order to help gain a solution.
So again... if you do not like my solutions to making California more business friendly, what are oyur solutions?
Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:29 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Ms Bobin... you distorted "again"... you defined gossip as if I said what you said was gossip...clearly at 10:15 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012 I stated "is no better than gossip."
when referencing you and your distortion attempt.
Finally, Gordon did make the comment about Pat's public comments, but obviously that was only one reason by one man. The entire board voted with each person having their own reasons...or are you saying only Gordon selected the new board member?
Joe Baxter posted at 1:13 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Pat, the government is like goldfish. The bigger the bowl (more tax income) the bigger they grow. Government creates agencies that need to "feed" on tax money. When tax income goes down, the agencies don't shrink or disappear, they simply invent new ways to feed the huge "goldfish".
Joe Baxter posted at 12:53 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
PERFECT, one whiner whining about someone whining.
Thomas Heuer posted at 12:33 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Jerome said
"Obama said what he said regarding precisely what he did ..."
You really have a fixation which is different than Darrells. What ever the topic of the letter may be Darrell always winds up talking about himself. He is in his element with his own letter. You on the other had turn every topic into an Obama rant and despite Darrells narcistic arena of himself we are talking about your unfounded Obama obsession and illegal aliens.
The pied piper syndrome seems to exist more on the right (that would be conservative) since you all maintain the same hysterias. First there is the Obama hysteria which is never clear what the motive is behind it. Sometimes its partisan, sometimes its principle sometimes its racial, sometimes its just personal. However it is plain wrong he is the most incompetent. He got Bin Laudin, Al Awaki (sp?) and rescued successfully hostages in Somalia. Waged a no boots on the ground war in Libya in record time. It seems he has a batting average above any other recent president. And he accomplishes all while shackled by a ball and chain of conservatives. The other hysteria (and there are many more, Islamaphobia, voter fraud, etc.) about illegal aliens. I could start b y saying how are you effected directly and why do you care but your pied piper state led by Fox and Co. has already fed you the force fed responses. So what don't you understand about students who were born here, raised here and for all intent and purposes see themselves as American as you and I yet find themselves considered alien and live under the threat of being sent to a country they know little about. It would be like you finding out they lost all birth records of you and you were going to be sent to Mexico which is not the most hospitable place right now. Where is your compassion? I know your told all kinds of things about welfare, medical services but you obviously don't know whats true let alone how it directly effects you. What you do know now is how it effects them. I know your told to worry about how this may encourage others but traffic from Mexico now is at an all time low whether its recession or the extra guards Obama has placed there. Obama has made the fewest executive orders and the one to help out the students is a good one. OK you can go back and get all excited about illegal aliens that come from Mexico but the kids born here, give em a break. If you stop thinking of this as a very successful political move you can see better. It was the right thing to do. Don't listen to republicans who are really having a hard time with this who are saying this will keep them from a bipartisan long term fix. Yeah right when the Jamacian bob sled team can have real home competitions. By the way nobody believes everything this or any other president says. After all they are politicians. Its just some are more believable than others. Now take Bush... sorry.
Joanne Bobin posted at 11:30 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Mr. Baumbach wrote: "Ms Bobin, please do not distort... His comments were but one reason that one man identified... for you to take a small part of the reasons and turn it into 100% of the reason is no better than gossip."
Gossip (from dictionary.com): "idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others"
I am sure that the LNS does not engage in printing "gossip." If YOU think they do, then you should find out why.
This story was about neither a "personal" nor a "private" issue. In fact, this was so public that the LNS had a whole article about the big hissy fit that Mr. Maple made over the selection process.
From the article (http://www.lodinews.com/news/article_e5073dd5-1c39-5db1-96d6-281d42549eb4.html)
"Gordon pointed out letters to the editor and blog posts written by Maple that have been published in the News-Sentinel and on the newspaper's website."
The first article (http://www.lodinews.com/news/article_7b1c5db2-2221-11e1-9a51-001871e3ce6c.html)
"Pat Maple, who was ultimately voted down by board members who cited controversial blog posts and stances he has taken in the community in previous years."
The main point is that Mr. Maple's big mouth IS a reason for his not being chosen by the elementary board. His "controversial..stances," and his vulgar comments in this forum are apparently a good enough reason for the school board.
Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:51 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
There are those who would believe anything and everything this president says and does to be righteous and above board. It's a strange effect that those of us on the right (that would be "correct") side simply cannot understand. Perhaps some foods have been laced with a new drug that causes a sort of Pied Piper Syndrome ("PPS").
Obama said what he said regarding precisely what he did regarding this illegal alien amnesty move. (If someone one day is considered a law breaker and then the next is relieved of that condition, it cannot be anything but amnesty.) At this point in his career where he's looking at what might be his last political campaign (unless he really would want to be governor of Illinois or mayor of Chicago) he will do absolutely anything to get those votes.
My ardent prayer is that come November there will be enough voters relieved of whatever spell was cast when he first came on the scene to send him packing. Without any doubt whatsoever, Barack Hussein Obama is the most incompetent president this nation has ever had - bar none. I'm sure Jimmy Carter is relieved to be out of the basement.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:24 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Eric Barrow stated...Darrell correct me if I'm wrong but from your post it seems that you and Kim both are employees and not business owners perhaps you could tell me how you gained the knowledge of "what you know to be true" I am also a little surprised that you are so confident in your knowledge of truth.
Excellent observation Eric... and for the first time I very much respect the question you ask. I am very confident in what I know, but as far as truth is concerned, let me clarify what I think. Truth today is absolute....until tomorrow when a new variable changes what we perceived truth to be yesterday...
In other words, truth evolves as new thought and ideas come to light. Today I am convinced that 2+2=4. I am confident in what truth is from experience, but as experience changes so does one's reality. I think it is possible that someday 2+2 could be 5...
The last pay check I earned was in 1977 as a cook in a restaurant while attending Kansas University. I have operated my own business since then. I also worked from third grade on in our family farm that no longer exists.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:03 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
California needs solutions in how to make California a more business friendly state in order to create more jobs in California. Texas has done things that helped their state but Texas is not California. I am not suggesting we copy Texas but learn from them. Leonard Gilroy of Reason Foundation makes sense. California politicians do not.
Gilroy has a diversified background in policy research and implementation, with particular emphases on public-private partnerships, competition, government efficiency, transparency, accountability, and government performance. Gilroy has worked closely with legislators and elected officials in Texas, Arizona, Louisiana, New Jersey, Utah, Virginia, California and several other states and local governments in efforts to design and implement market-based policy approaches, improve government performance, enhance accountability in government programs, and reduce government spending.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:57 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Back in 2009, Leonard Gilroy, who is the Director of Government Reform at Reason Foundation, made an interesting observation.
There's no one thing you can point to to explain Texas' competitive advantage. In my estimation, the late Ric Williamson summed it quite well in this 2007 Reason interview:
We are a very low tax state, we're a very low regulation state, and we have a very limited welfare system in our state. What that means is, individual entrepreneurs want to live in Texas because they don't pay any income tax. Businesses want to locate in Texas because they're not overly regulated. And people don't come to Texas for welfare because none exists. So people who show up in Texas show up to work, generate wealth, and contribute to the overall economy.
One cannot say the same thing about California, in many ways Texas' polar opposite. You couldn't have two states moving in more opposite directions. One is unabashedly pro-growth and aggressive in courting industry, while the other seems content to spin an ever denser spider web of laws, regulations and red tape that is driving business out of the state. One state accounts for a whopping 70 percent of all jobs created in the United States last year, while the other seems bent on increasing taxes on business and individuals to pay for an unsustainable, out of control government that wants to be everything to everyone despite the fact that it simply cannot.
Patrick W Maple posted at 5:55 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
mrh: My deductions come from your pocket. The point is we don't need five agencies to issue one license. The same carp goes on in many other states and many others complete the process through one agency. As far as stopping any conversations...it certainly has not here.
The long kept practice of calling someone an a-s-s came from the stubborness of an a-s-s. Stubborness and stupidity often accompany one another. Think BEFORE you make an assinine statement and the word a-s-s will not appear. And PLEASE do not a-s-sume you know everything...because it makes an a-s-s out of you and me.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:49 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
In the spirit of positive constructive intent, I simply identify problems and offer solutions. For example, why is it that Texas is attracting so many of California's jobs? Lets look at reality. Maybe California can learn from Texas...
“Both are large, strategically located states with strong demographics and bountiful natural resources. But California’s regulatory and tax costs, coupled with budgetary and policy instability, render it an impotent competitor when standing next to low-tax, business-friendly Texas, which levies no capital gains or income taxes to support its affordable government.”
“It’s just striking how the states with no income tax (including Texas) outperform the states with high income taxes (California’s highest personal income tax rate, 10.55% is third highest in the nation),”
Sally C. Pipes, president and CEO of San Francisco-based Pacific Research Institute, said, “If Californians still have trouble understanding why so many of our former neighbors have gone to Texas, this scorecard spells it out in painful detail.”.....
State sales tax rate: Texas 6.25%, California 8.25%
Marginal corporate income tax rate: Texas 1% GRT, California 8.84%
Total state and local government expenditures per capita: Texas $7,763.49, California $11,256.83
Average annual growth in government spending: Texas 7.02%, California 7.29%
Recession-related job loss from peak employment to July 2010: Texas, -2.3%, California, -8.7%
(according to the Orange County Register)
Patrick W Maple posted at 5:47 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
msb: Are you saying the government bullies let you down? The "last few things" are 12 of the 14 stated? Bad roofer? Did you check out his credentials BEFORE you took his low bid? The point is that govt is just as bad if not worse than the private sector. The point is why did we need only one inspection, then three, then four, to protect the people and their interests...now we are back to ONE...did we need the four to begin with? Why not now? BECAUSE: No money for the gov...so it no longer matters and neither do you.
Andrew Liebich posted at 12:17 am on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Obviously there are fools aplenty on either side of the false left-right paradigm.
In an interview with Univision television earlier this year, President Obama said that he can’t just “waive away the laws that Congress put in place” and that “the president doesn’t have the authority to simply ignore Congress and say, ‘We’re not going to enforce the laws that you’ve passed." but ignore Congress and the Constitution is exactly what the president has done – and this isn’t the first time.
F.Y.I. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) gives DHS general authority to enforce immigration laws.
Andrew Liebich posted at 11:49 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Only a fool refuses to see what is happening right before his or her eyes...
K Lee posted at 11:42 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
This letter from Darrell Baumbach is just another one of his whining and complaining rants without any offers of ideas or solutions whatsoever. I think he just enjoys the stage. It's typical Darrell. This letter is divisive, negative, insulting and pessimistic as he whines on about how others “perceive” him. He whines about every perceived problem yet offers no sincere thoughts or ideas regarding solutions to fix them. We’ve all met this kind of person… he just likes to complain and shoot down the responses, and opposing views, of others. Nothing new here folks. This letter seems to be more about Darrell than anything else.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:27 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated...just looking for the facts that lead to truth
no you are not... your comments were child like. Specific regs and poor business practices are beyond silly to talk about considering the content of the letter and Kims posts. Are you really convinced california is business friendly?
Thomas Heuer posted at 10:26 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Joanne I see you made the same observation I did. Yes I too have to register and tag my vehicles however I don't necessarily get paid a dime for doing it and definitly can't get a business deduction. However if someone said if you took a few extra steps (plus fees) you could use your vehicle for business as well. Swell I just have to decide is it all worth it and can I come out ahead or should I look for another line of work. Then theres the I could blame someone else like the government if things aren't working out.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:15 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Ms bobin stated...Exactly, Mr. Heuer. Mr. Maple's comments are the reason he was declined a position on whichever Galt school board he last applied for.
Ms Bobin, please do not distort... His comments were but one reason that one man identified... for you to take a small part of the reasons and turn it into 100% of the reason is no better than gossip.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:48 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr Chang stated...Darrell, I haven't been admonished by you today and I'm feeling left out.
Admonished? How are you defining admonish? In my view, I have never admonished you . How funny. You felt left out in something that never happened.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:36 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
For the record
Jerome said "President Obama promising that he would not do what he had just done because there were laws in place that would prevent him from doing so. Did this Executive Order not make him a liar and a cheat?" Of course not. You have been watching Fox news again where they show a partial video of him saying there were laws which can't be changed regarding immigration. Fox stopped the video there, However if you watched the video further you hear Obama say but he can change how the law is enforved which is what he did. See you think you are getting the inside scoop on Fox as opposed to the mainstream media. Fox lies and purposely to keep you all in bunched up panties to vote against your best interests.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:20 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Again you missed the point. I believe Andy asked if there are any "VALID" regs meaning are there regs that are necessary. Cause I still have a hard time listening to Kim go on about the business difficulties but the implication being its all the fault of regulations. I know its serves your political push but it definitly does not serve reality or truth as you profess to seek. I still can't discern what part of her business difficulties are due to the economic downturn everyone else is experiencing or what may be due to poor business practices or what is regulation driven? just looking for the facts that lead to truth.
Thomas Heuer posted at 9:01 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
It was the elementary school board.
Joanne Bobin posted at 8:53 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Exactly, Mr. Heuer. Mr. Maple's comments are the reason he was declined a position on whichever Galt school board he last applied for. Not my claim - the statement by a Galt official who was on the selection committee is documented in an LNS article.
Joanne Bobin posted at 8:48 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr. Maple responds with the only mentality with which he is capable - foul mouthed insults - "But NO an a-s-s like you can only come up with the idea that "the big bad boogieman government will get you for that"
Mr. Maple wrote:
"How is this: "Each truck must have a registration paper, insurance paper, license plate, month sticker, year sticker, CA# with a year sticker, a month sticker, an inspection sticker (not to mention a BIT# and inspection record) a driver's log book, and a weight sticker. If you are caught without a current CA sticker it is a $10,500.00 fine. If you fill out your paperwork incorrectly that fine can be imposed a well. SO, in order to have a legally licensed truck ( ANY truck with a gvw over 10K capacity) on a CA highway you must be registered with CA, DMV, CHP and BIT."
Any different than the average driver with the exception of the last few items specific to your industry?
Mr. Maple wrote: "But just so I don't let the local directators off the hook...twenty years ago there was only a final inspection for a re-roof..."
As a victim of a roofer who put a roof on my house that was worse than the one he took off, I can honestly say that the City of Lodi inspector must have driven by my house, looked up, and said, "Yeah, there's a roof up there," and signed off on the permit.
I've had 5 other roofing companiesf tell me that I should have sued the city for OKing the roof which had the most obvious flaws that if anyone with any expertise had actually looked at it (the roofer had the sense to declare bankruptcy and basically told me to f-off and leave him alone) would have alerted me to the defects.
I am emphatically FOR stricter inspections for any type of construction. Sorry, Mr. Maple - the average contractor is a potential crook until he proves himself TO ME to be honest. Just my experience, but I'm sure there are thousands more who think as I do.
Walter Chang posted at 8:32 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
"Darrell said, 'ignoring reality is irresponsible'."
Andrew, bad example.
Darrell also said, "Ignorance is bliss".
Hmmm...
Perhaps if you've selected a better video then Ron Paul rambling on and on...
People could possibly take the issue more seriously.
Sorry I can't, I'm ignorant and blissful.
Darrell, I haven't been admonished by you today and I'm feeling left out.
Surely you could generate some harsh sentiments and cast them my way, no??
Pat Maple, pace yourself, we've got a long way to go!!
Thomas Heuer posted at 7:22 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Pat
Your posts consistently seem to be conversation stoppers not because they are brilliantly illuminating but because they are such head scratching what the...? Oh yes and the "...really give a rats a-s-s." and "...just proven you a liar..." and "...NO an a-s-s like you..." really drives the point home that your one stellar business man and pillar of the community. Really demeans any point you are trying to make. So when it seems everyone is trying to increase their civility here you manage to remind everyone that the rif-raft is still allowed. Oh by the way Darrell has no point that is discernable or at least put into practice and Kim can't be helped since she lives in a glass house and keeps throwing rocks.
Eric Barrow posted at 6:58 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Darrell correct me if I'm wrong but from your post it seems that you and Kim both are employees and not business owners perhaps you could tell me how you gained the knowledge of "what you know to be true" I am also a little surprised that you are so confident in your knowledge of truth. Many a wise man would never claim to be as familiar with truth as you do.
Andrew Liebich posted at 6:53 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr. Chang, The NAU/SPP is 100% manifestly provable.
As Darrell stated in his letter, "People may not appreciate becoming aware of specific problems and perceive the messenger as "Chicken Little" — claiming the sky is falling — but ignoring reality is irresponsible."
If the North American Union is "wacky wacky" why is it that Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) documents released under the FOIA show that a wide range of US administrative law is being re-written in stealth under this program to "integrate" and "harmonize" with administrative law in Mexico and Canada, just as has become commonplace within the EU?
Why have 18 states introduced resolutions calling on their federal representatives to halt work on the North American Union?
Are you aware that 3 of these states (Idaho, Montana and Oklahoma) have passed their resolutions?
The SPP documents contain references to upwards of 13 working groups within an entire organized infrastructure that has drawn from officials within most areas of administrative government including U.S. departments of State, Homeland Security, Commerce, Treasury, Agriculture, Transportation, Energy, Health and Human Services, and the office of the U.S. Trade Representative.
Darrell said, "ignoring reality is irresponsible."
I find your ignorance toward reality irresponsible.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:55 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
If you have to ask something so obvious, I am not certain it is possible to help you understand.
There are 1000's of laws, mandates and regulations that make California the least business friendly state in the country. Your question has to be disingenuous.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:50 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Kim, great post... Eric claims to have experienced all the items you stated... his claim is obviously hot air or he would know exactly what you and I know to be true.
Thomas Heuer posted at 5:48 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
I haved a hard time determinig what part of your business difficulties are due to the economic downturn everyone is experiencing or what may be due to poor business practices or what is regulation driven? If all the selloffs are an effort to hold on to employees despite loss of business then that would be a comendable effort.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:45 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr Heuer stated...With all of your nagging comments in sympathy with the Tea Partiers and other conservatives about government being too big never has there ever been a suggested solution.
Clearly, Mr Heuer has been in solitary confinement or a comma. That would be like saying I have never heard a liberal ask for higher taxes... wonderful humor Mr Heuer.
Eric Barrow posted at 4:14 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Kim I have done all of those things you mentioned and I rarely understand what Darrell is talking about.
What regulations forced your boss to sell his vehicles?
How is it that regulation turned the construction industry into a dog eat dog business?
Joanne Bobin posted at 3:35 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
And FYI, Ms. Parigoris - as an office manager I am sure you know labor law - if an employer presents an employee with a paycheck for which there are no funds or insufficient funds, those pesky California labor laws do not look very kindly on this type of situation.
It might be prudent for you to NOT advertise that information in this forum.
Walter Chang posted at 3:32 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Kim, are you on the company clock now?
How much time during your typical workday is devoted to your quasi important political activities?
Most of your postings here seem to be made during normal business hours.
I'm curious, that's the only reason I'm asking.
I'm not implying anything.
Andy Crowder posted at 3:15 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Are there any regulations on construction that you feel are valid? Can you give us some specific examples of the regulations that you think have ruined your employer's business?
Eric Barrow posted at 2:55 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
pm they are two different polls one has Obama ahead by thirteen points in the general election the other is a poll on favorability, how people view the candidates personally. Try to keep up.
Joanne Bobin posted at 2:44 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Perhaps, Ms. Parigoris, if Bush had not let the housing industry fall into a shambles and had Congress voted on the jobs bill and OK'd all of the construction on infrastructure, the concrete business would be in better shape and your boss would not have encountered so many personal hardships.
All the other issues - already encountered them long ago under Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2.
And for anyone who may live near the Harney Lane Dump - my first employer here in Lodi used to ship barrels of toxic waste to be disposed in that landfill until they got caught.
Hope you are still healthy!
Joanne Bobin posted at 2:37 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr. Maple - unless the law has changed in the last 5 minutes, perhaps you have heard that ONLY CONGRESS has the power to change citizenship laws.
No matter how often Mr. Kinderman says it, and no matter how many times he writes "Barack HUSSEIN Obama," the president cannot personally transform the Constitution of the United States.
Kim Parigoris posted at 2:14 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
If you have never worked in the private sector, if you have never shot up out of bed in the middle of the night wondering how you were going to pay payroll taxes, if you have never had to sell assets to keep your business afloat, if you have never had to give up all paid time off, had to convert to astronomical deductibles to keep yourself medically insured, if you have never had to spend hours of paperwork on government requirements, if you have never had your employer ask you to hold on to your paycheck until the company received some money long overdue...then you would never understand what Mr. Baumbach is talking about. The owner of the company where i work has sold off many personal assets, borrowed against his own profit sharing account, sold 6 trucks and 2 tractors in the last 6 months and refianced 2 pieces of property.The government regulations are just getting worse and worse until it bogs you down like an albatross, and you don't even know why you are going through the motions anymore. Being in private business is hard enough in itself- but having the government kick you when you are down is very demoralizing. The red tape that the construction industry has to go through now, compared to 30 years ago is mind bogglling. The industry has turned in to an environment of CYA- Covering Your you-know what.. There is no longer any comradierie, no feeling of partnerships, etc. It is all about getting the other guy before he gets you. And this is the fault of over regulation..
Patrick W Maple posted at 2:07 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
wc: I'd be more curious to know how "normal people" would feel about your politics? Like we do...not you do.
eb: Bloomberg's last poll has Obama up thirteen points and Romney can't seem to get past a 45% favorable rating. 45+58=103% BO is giving his all.
msb: "...the president made it clear that this was not a path to citizenship." WHERE have I heard THAT lie before? BO...Peter Pander in disquise.
th: "Do we allow business to pollute, grow into monopolies, engage in price fixing, bait and switch, cheat customers, cheat the elderly, not take responsibility for shoddy workmanship so that we might get jobs...?" No we do not. I have yet to do that and have survived for 30 years in business. You have little faith in the private sector while putting much in the govt sector. Hmmmm..whom do you work for?
GM: Most "transparent" administration ever? He was standing in front of a mirror.
DB:
Walter Chang posted at 1:50 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Wacky Wacky...
Walter Chang posted at 1:49 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Jerome, fine then, November 7th it is. Enjoy!
Eric Barrow posted at 1:47 pm on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
I don't know Mr. Kinderman Bloomberg's last poll has Obama up thirteen points and Romney can't seem to get past a 45% favorable rating. I listened to some of his speeches and he comes off stiff and unbelievable.
I also thought Obama might be in trouble in the last few weeks but I think this Executive Order is going to give him some momentum. You got to admit it was very smart politics not only giving him momentum but as Joanne pointed out it eliminates Rubio as Romney’s running mate. I think it will be close but I hope people realize that our economy is far to shaky for more conservative fiscal policy
Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:57 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
I'm curious about just one thing: what is the significance of November 3rd that would have anyone promising me that I won't be teased relentlessly or otherwise?
Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:56 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Once again, we're back to President Bush. Now unless I've missed it (I've re-read Mr. Baumbach's letter along with all of the comments posted thereto) and I see no reference by him to Obama's use of the Executive Order. It was I who decided it was appropriate to bring this issue up.
But naturally, parsing comments has become a cottage industry not only in the media, but right here on this very forum. To be fair, the left aren't the only ones who do that. Still, my discussion of Barack Hussein Obama's recent use of the EO wasn't to criticize its use, but only to talk about HOW it was used in this specific instance. Rather than waste my time to copy and paste what I actually wrote in this regard, I'll just let those who might be interested to take a look for themselves.
But here's the thing with where I stand insofar as November is concerned: just a few short months ago I believed that Obama would indeed be granted another four years and admitted such on this forum. Of course this bothered me, but because of who and what he is rather than what he has or has not done as President of the United States, it was going to be difficult to fire him.
Recently however, I see the tide shifting - and what a relief it is! Many who voted and/or supported him in 2008 are not so sure about the guy now. At the very least they're disappointed. With the Supreme Court ready to render their decision on his beloved health care debacle, I also believe he has some inside information that could spell doom for the one thing he's hung his entire first term upon. No matter how one looks at it, this can’t be good for President Obama.
In other words, "President" Willard Mitt Romney is no longer a long shot. And this is very frightening for the current lessees of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C. I wonder what letter(s) might be removed from White House keyboards prior to handing over the keys next January.
Thomas Heuer posted at 11:35 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Darrell said "These people misunderstand. It is constructive, positive and optimistic to identify problems then offer solutions to fix them." First you missed the point of the original letter then violate your own point saying all the complaining is to offer solutions.
With all of your nagging comments in sympathy with the Tea Partiers and other conservatives about government being too big never has there ever been a suggested solution. The only tired offering is too make government smaller. Grover Norquist wants it the size that fits in a bath tub so he can drown it.
So how small is big enough? Can we still be a super power? Do we allow business to pollute, grow into monopolies, engage in price fixing, bait and switch, cheat customers, cheat the elderly, not take responsibility for shoddy workmanship so that we might get jobs in sweat shop work places, have pitiful wages, scary health care, have communities under smog along with other filth you know like China?
Yes you mentioned your intent to move to Asia. Yes you can sit in front of the post office without disturbance (especially if its not functioning), use your internet if you can get a signal and if you do get a signal you have to hope the sites haven't been censored and if you post deragatory comments about the government you still might get disturbed and sentenced to death if not a good paddleing. Yes thats your government and I am deathly afraid of what small government can bring if our government gets too small. Of course in Asia you'll still be a Lodi Baumbach which along with $100 might get you a cup of Jasmine tea.
Thomas Heuer posted at 10:48 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
I suppose you liked the redefining of torture to be a better move under Bush than recognising the plight of undoumented students facing deportation to a foreign land. Gee what a guy and suppose to be christian as well.
Government is by the people. It's just not always by your people.
Joanne Bobin posted at 10:31 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Perhaps, as a "Christian nation," we should heed Senator Jim DeMint:
"Sen. DeMint has proclaimed, “…I think some have been drawn in over the years to a dependency relationship with government, and as the Bible says, you can’t have two masters.”
Joanne Bobin posted at 10:23 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
"Recently, our CINC used his Executive Order privilege to grant what comes down to immunity to those illegal aliens considered young (children) if they meet other criteria. Conservative estimates believe this number of new "citizens" to be around 800,000."
How does this "Christian" man reconcile himself with all of the outright lies he loves to tell?
There is no "immunity" - it is a deferral of deportation for two years.
There is no guarantee of "citizenship" - the president made it clear that this was not a path to citizenship.
This is a stop-gap measure that was created because our Republican do-nothing Congress refused to act on immigration reform.
The best part of this is that, because the Obama executive order upstaged the plan that Marco Rubio was going to roll-out, poor Rubio is now anathma as a VP candidate. Mitt could not possibly associate himself with an individual with the same ideas as his opponent.
Joanne Bobin posted at 10:11 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr. Kinderman wrote: "We are in serious trouble, folks! And I suspect that the liberal (progressive) left wants it just that way. After all, they have an election to win in November."
I suspect that Mr. Kinderman does not watch videos of Republicans declaring that they will do ANYTHING they can to "make Obama a one term president," even at the expense of our economy and the American people.
Reasons Mr. Kinderman dislikes Obama as evidenced by his previous comments in this forum:
He's a Socialist.
He is deliberately undermining the US Constitution and "fundamentally changing" the United States.
His name is Barack HUSSEIN Obama.
He sincerely believes that Obama is the ONLY president to use executive orders to further policy that Congress has deliberately stalled.
He complains that George W. Bush simply CANNOT be blamed for our economic situation "anymore."
And many more.
And then the one thinly disguised reason he has carefully danced around for the past 3 1/2 years that truly shows his opposition to the president.
Gary Musto posted at 9:56 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Today's LA Times reported Richard Milhous Obama invokes executive privilege regarding the releasing of "Fast and Furious" documents.
Most "transparent" administration ever?
Eric Barrow posted at 9:47 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Darrell if you are concerned with executive branch overreach you are waking up a little late. George Bush vastly expanded executive power and conservatives had little to say. George blew Clinton's record of 15 executive orders away with 63 of his own so I think the recent shock of expanding executive power has more to do with ideology than with the balance of federal powers.
Walter Chang posted at 9:47 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
"People like me..."
Darrell, this is a good letter but you're still defined by all of your 7000 plus postings.
Since you already know how the "righties" and the "lefties" perceive you...
I'd be more curious to know how "normal people" would feel about your politics?
You know, the ignorant masses, those citizens whose don't subscribe to either political extreme.
Do you think "they" would consider your remarks frequently partisan and occasionally wacky?? Hmmm???
Do you drone on and on? Yeah, sometimes but lets be polite and just call you verbose.
Are some of your post pessimistic and negative? Sure, there's plenty of evidence to support that but who am I to judge?
You said "they" misunderstand. I don't agree, I think you misunderstand.
There's very little going on here that’s constructive.
The partisan drivel disguised as “solutions” benefits nobody, it just divides!!
Jerome, I promise not to tease you relentlessly on November 3rd!! ;)
Eric Barrow posted at 9:42 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Thanks Darrell if this letter is your idea of thinking the less thinking you do the better. I think the 64% agree with it because it is the right thing to do. Darrell you give the people of this country little credit I doubt you could get 64% of the citizens of this country to agree on something that is wrong, immoral or bad. Makes me wonder what the moral makeup is of the 36% is?
Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:48 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
So if 64% of likely voters support anything or what ever, and it will help a politician get elected, it is a good thing to do just because of perception...
According to Eric...well ya!!!!!!!! who cares if it is right or wrong, good or bad, appropriate or not... 64% of likely voters think its a good idea and Obama can get elected. Why think? Eric has spoken.
Andrew Liebich posted at 8:43 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code makes it a federal crime to be in the United States illegally!
Eric Barrow posted at 8:34 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Obama signs an executive order that 64% of the likely voters support and this might help get him reelected? Well ya!
Andrew Liebich posted at 8:22 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Wakey Wakey... http://youtu.be/0p3fw2Hy_q4
Jerome Kinderman posted at 1:43 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr. Baumbach writes, "Of course government is important and a necessity, but when the government becomes too powerful and controlling, it gets in the way of a productive business environment that creates jobs and employment for the middle class.
Actually, I would have no problem with our government being "too powerful and controlling" if it had been We the People who wanted it that way. Where I direct my outrage is when they lie, cheat and steal, sometimes in full view of a nation where far too many believe that to be tolerable or they simply don’t care.
Recently, our CINC used his Executive Order privilege to grant what comes down to immunity to those illegal aliens considered young (children) if they meet other criteria. Conservative estimates believe this number of new "citizens" to be around 800,000. In a nation still suffering under the longest recession in my lifetime, just how are we to sustain not only those who are already here under this edict, but those who are sure to follow considering that our borders are as porous (if not more so) than ever.
But that's not my concern here. No, what we had not too long ago is President Obama promising that he would not do what he had just done because there were laws in place that would prevent him from doing so. Did this Executive Order not make him a liar and a cheat? Or did the definitions change during President Clinton's administration when we had to redefine the word "is?"
Oh, and this is just the most recent demonstration of a government gone wild. And to think the Secret Service probably thought they had cornered the market on such behavior!
We are in serious trouble, folks! And I suspect that the liberal (progressive) left wants it just that way. After all, they have an election to win in November.