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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:00 am

Our divider-in-chief has been making speeches lately on the economy and jobs. Listening to this guy, you would think that he’s been out of the country for four or five years and just landed to find the economy in shambles — as if he has had absolutely nothing to do with it. This is his economy, not the Bushes’ (who didn’t help it any themselves), not Clinton’s, Reagan’s or George Washington’s.

Obama and his willing communists in the bureaucracy have done immeasurable damage to all Americans, especially the poor and the middle class, whom he tells he will never sleep until they have jobs, etc. He looks pretty rested to me, going on more vacations than any president or presidential family in history. He is spending millions jetting around the globe — accomplishing nothing — having a heck of time sightseeing, all during the worst economy since the Great Depression.

He blames the usual suspects — Republicans, Congress, the sequester, Bush, global warming, Mondays — never is it laid at his doorstep.

And about the sequester, it cost $100 million for him and his wife to go sightseeing through Africa and Europe, and millions more on their coming vacation at Martha’s Vineyard. Plus, last week he signed an executive order to give Hamas, who are linked with al-Qaida, half a billion dollars in aid which he does not have the Constitutional authority to do.

All you having to be furloughed: How does that make you feel?

Ron Portal

Lodi

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82 comments:

  • robert maurer posted at 12:38 pm on Mon, Aug 5, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    Now that was hillarious,Walter. The Red Baron(Baron Von Richtoffen "fell prey to Eddie Rickenbacker ,flying a Stearman,or was that a BritIsh SE5A biplane against the Fokker triplane with Snoopy and his doghouse recently painted on the cowl of the Baron's plane, in memorials to his kills?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:56 pm on Sat, Aug 3, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Bobbin, I wonder if the founder of the Washington Times is related to the black dude from "Hawaii" that has brainwashed thousands of idiots over the last 5 years and is lusting for a cult following? Naw, probably not, but they do share some common goals.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 8:32 am on Sat, Aug 3, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1492

    [thumbup][thumbup]
    The right's goal is to re-take the senate, so the house can file articles of impeachment and President Obama would then be convicted in the senate.

    This has become the sad fate of the once great GOP: Cry babies who throw tantrums who are doing the best to bring this country down. What political party wanted American auto makers to fail, putting millions out of work? GOP. What political party wanted to cut millions off of unemployment before the Bush's ruined economy was reversed? GOP. What political party wants children to be hungry before and during school? GOP. What political party wants to reduce the number of people with health insurance of any sort? GOP. Begin to see the trend? The GOP, in their effort to wound this President, are willing to plunge millions of Americans into poverty and hunger, with no way out.

    They've become a bunch of little children, stamping their feet, screaming at the top of the lungs at every issue, big and small. If there is no scandal there, they'll make one up. Their many efforts at keeping democrats from voting are well documented. Every national election brings more documented efforts at voter fraud. They want to prevent Hispanics and other minorities from registering through many efforts because if everyone who was able to vote, did vote, the democrats would win in a landslide every time.

    Todays's GOP is just a pathetic collection of bigoted white guys who want the old days to return at any cost. AT ANY COST.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 9:09 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    Joe;See what I mean?As far as the BenGhazi incident goes; Nobody could know what was going to happen,right? These stunts I was well aware of by people that I worked with. who were accused of being "too Americanized". Seems that a cry for help went unheeded.Now, answer me this;( Not you intelligent people that post here,despite political sides)Do you believe in your government more than yourself? If you answered yes, you should consider suicide in the quietest,cleanest, way possible.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 8:18 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    Ah, Joe, the litmus test. Let me respond by saying that for every one thing that I approve of, there are at least 10 things that I disapprove of. In regards to your response to my latest post;I know that.My question is this: Why aren't these people as well as G.Bush 2 sharing a jail cell, fighting over a bar of soap,in the shower? Thank you for reminding me. You're a good man.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:32 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Slowly, but surely, the truth is being exposed about Benghazi. Here is a fun little clip that will make Obama pucker, and from CNN, yet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MHjqsDqfy0

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:17 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Robert, do yourself a favor and watch this video clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPoksfSf2nA

    It just might shed some light on who was forcing who to extend bad loans. You are aware that Obama worked for the law firm that forced banks to make home loans to unqualified borrowers, aren't you? Don't believe everything the liberal media spews.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:45 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Gee Wally, that's funny stuff. You should pitch your humor to MSNBC, you might just be able to join your pals, Rachel Maddow, Ed Shulz and Chris Mattews in the ratings toilet.
    I ask again, in which branch of the military did you serve?

     
  • robert maurer posted at 5:41 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    Search "has us economy improved under obama" and find surprising answers from US News,Forbes,MSN,along with many other sources. Home sales are not recovering as quickly since you actually have to have a verifiable income and credit rating now,not like Bush who wanted every American to own their own home: even if they could not afford it, and banks(under the threat of being sued) being forced to approve loans.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:54 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1161

    Joe has just completed his 26th sortie, in last 24 hours.

    Forgoing needed maintainance, the old Stearmans biplane is looking a little rough...

    Flying loud, low and slow - with oil spewing, smoke trailing and duct tape flapping!!!

    However, reports from the field indicate that the determined pilot can been seen smiling from ear to ear.

    Also, "eye witness accounts" suggest it would of been 27 sorties.

    But he apparently dropped one of the hand tossed "O-Blame-O" bombs in his lap...

    Forcing a quick return to base.


    [wink]


     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:27 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    What happened to Obama's place of birth and faking his birth certificate. You also left out the most recent, an all expense paid vacation to Africa. Why don't you and your right wing brethren take your pick of any one of those illegal activities, like receiving the Peace Prize and get on an impeach him? Could it be that you can't bring up charges based on speculation and opinion? Only three years left to prove Obama's illegitimacy after that, that picture is gonna be hanging in the White House forever. That is going to look funny the worst President ever than the first black one followed by the first woman. Do you think the first made the other two possible?.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:23 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    For all you liberals that can't come up with anything Obama accomplished since being elected, let me help.
    "Cash for Clunkers"
    "Closing Guantanamo"
    "Fast & Furious"
    "Benghazi"
    "IRS scandal"
    "Green Companies" (either bankrupt or going bankrupt)
    (5.8 BILLION tax dollars down the toilet, so far)
    (glad he is not my broker, I'd really be broke)
    "Nobel Peace? Prize"
    "Backing Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists"
    "Insulting American Allies"
    "Naming Communist/Soicialist/Progressives to czar posts"
    "Transparent? Administration"
    Want more? Just ask...
    You are welcome.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:43 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Tell me, Mr. Changg, which branch of the military did you serve?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:14 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Eerie silence from the Obama idolizers.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:12 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    I will take Boehner, any day, over Nancy "let's pass it so we can see what's in it" Pelosi. The epitome of the village idiot.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:05 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Boehner isn't my ideal speaker either but I will take him over Eric "Howdy Doody" Holder, Obama's lying puppet any day.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:01 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Bobbin, so now you are an expert at decyphering "code"? Pure HOGWASH.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:44 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Already stated my case on this topic, Baxxxter.

    Have YOU researched how much money other presidents have spent on overseas trips? Obviously, NO.

    If you had you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself right now.

    Chuckle

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:40 pm on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Hmmm....if memory serves me, the Republican party (Mitch McConnell) declared from day number one that their goal was to make Barack Hussein Obama a "ONE TERM PRESIDENT."

    No one needs to know that was code for screw him at any cost, even at the cost of the American economy and American citizens. McConnell should be tried for TREASON for purposefully obstructing the business of the federal government.

    Congress's approval rating is at 17%. The House is totally Republican and the TEA Party is desperately holding on, trying to twist the arms of mainstream Republicans. Today they are in their summer recess and it is unlikely they will do ANYTHING when they get back in September.

    John Boehner, the most ineffective idiot ever to be House Speaker, lamely stated (in response the the House's incredible record of passing exactly 9 laws in an entire year) that their job "was not to pass laws, but to repeal laws."

    Laws repealed by the House in this past session? ZERO!!!!

    But apparently, the Speaker of the House thinks he's doing his job.

    Ridiculous!!!

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:41 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    [smile]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:39 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Hmmm,.if memory serves me, the DEMOCRATS had control over the House and the Senate AND the purse strings the last two years of Bush's tenure AND the first two years of Owe-Blame-O's first term. To deny the Democrats weren't complicit in the financial mess of '08 is pure hogwash.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 11:22 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    Clearly a case where it was safer to be an enemy of Cheney and not a friend.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 10:37 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    I sure don't see anybody doing anything about the causes of it, and haven't since I noticed this at the end of the Reagan era and beginning of the Clinton years. The root causes for(high health care premiums) were not addressed then and they aren't now,either. That is the main reason for the sub 40 hr. workweek , along with the laws and related loopholes.It's always the same,no matter who is president: apply a bandaid where a tournequet is needed. Maybe if all US citizens are required to have health insurance,these high premiums that the businesses have to pay,and that individuals pay, will come down, since businesses and the insured won't have to pay the bills of the uninsured. The stocks I own are food industry related, and as long as people eat, my stocks will never be worthless. More and more people are eating out, and that profit raises my stock value. Now, if the economy was so bad, as it was under Bush, that stock value would drop, as it drasticallydid.(almost half its current value).It's all about consumer confidence. That is what drives the economy.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:39 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Ironically, Cheney's victim actually apologized to HIM - NEVER the other way around, which should have been.

    Cheney is EVIL INCARNATE. I would not trust him with the safety of a kitten, non-the-less the safety of US citizens.

    And now we may be treated to EVIL INCARNATE 2 - his daughter. Just about the most bitter woman I've ever seen on television. She cannot imagine why here "dear old dad" has been vilified for being the most corrupt, evil person ever in government service. Even Nixon pales in Cheney's shadow.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:28 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Dockter wrote: "The economy has recovered in spite of Obama."

    Conversely, Mr. Dockter and his cronies sincerely believe, "the economy tanked in spite of George W. Bush."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:24 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    To quote you, Mr. Dockter....."Chucke."

    It never ceases to amaze me how ill-informed people are when they make silly comments like yours.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:22 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Someone, anyone, please tell me just what Obama has done to make the economy better Almost 50 million people on food stamps alone and over 100 million Americans on some sort of government welfare and both statistics rising on a daily basis. Welfare people don't pay taxes that the government needs so Obama wants the working people and those demonic wealthy people to pay more. Yet the Democrats crow about how good the economy is getting? City after city going bankrupt. Schools, police and fire departments closing or severely cutting back for lack of funding. The military forced to scale back to the point that it just might cripple American defenses. Home ownership is at an 18 year low and yet the liberals keep telling us how great the economy is doing. Smoke and mirrors, at best. The theory is that if you tell the same lie over and over people will eventually accept it as truth. Sadly, the liberal lemmings do just that.



     
  • Walter Chang posted at 9:19 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1161

    "stocks"

    Stan is bitter.

    He fell for the FOXNEWS hype and enthusiastically supported their advertisers.

    He bought GOLD!

    Value down over 35% since January 2012!!!

    Hey Stan, what’s in your safe??????

    [lol]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 9:19 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1161

    “buckshot”

    Brian, catch a clue. They were pheasant hunting.

    D-i-c-k nearly killed the man!!

    So you go ahead and hunt with him…

    But be very careful when he asks you to move out front…

    And flush the birds from the bush.

    He just wants a clear shot!!!


    [smile]

     
  • stan taves posted at 8:17 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 318

    You guys are reaching for anything that might even resemble success for your boy B O. This is how it works in the real world: B O's agenda is nothing more than wealth re-distribution. His idiotic plan is built on the idea that those who have accumulated real wealth ( that would be those who know from where wealth comes, and to where it must ultimately go ) will willingly support a society that increasingly sees consumption as an entitlement, and productivity as a necessary evil. Obama's game is a phony promise that can never be realized in a free society -- and he probably knows as much. The Dweedle-Dwarfs out there who point to there "stocks" as evidence of Obama's success need to realize that their rising portfolios are the result of actions taken by the "money creators" at the Fed, and not the result of any of Obama's idiotic policies. In fact, were economic conditions more favorable to growth, then interest rates would rise and the stock-market would subsequently fall. The fact that the rich are getting richer under Obama is a clear indication of the magnitude of his agendas failure -- so we have that to be thankful for. The problem going forward Obama, and his crew of crazies, is that they haven't figured-out how to keep rich people from moving their newfound dollars away -- away from the grasp of money munching maniacs who promise everything, and deliver nothing.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:15 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Chuckle

    So you're saying you don't have a problem with Obama contributing to the demise of the 40 hour work week?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:59 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    In the case of the "nuclear football" it's quite obvious Cheney was much more capable of handling this (had the situation arised he was put in that position) than Biden. Aside from the incident when he accidently discharged his shotgun and the buckshot grazed someone on a hunting trip. I would much rather have him at the helm than Mr. "I can't stop shooting my mouth off" Biden. The collateral damage from Biden's mouth has been much more profound.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:49 am on Fri, Aug 2, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Ms. Bobin posted:

    "from Nancy Reagan: "Presidents don't get vacations — they just get a change of scenery. The job goes with you." The responsibilities, the pressure, the officer with the "nuclear football" — it's all with a commander-in-chief at all times. No exceptions."

    Let's compare Presidential Vacations:

    Obama - 2009-present 72 days

    GW Bush - over 8 years 977 days (490 in Crawford/487 at Camp David) A WHOPPING 2.6 FULL YEARS on vacation.

    -Well there you have it Ms. Bobin

    The quote from Mrs. Reagan is accurate. Presidents don't really go on vacation.
    And Obama may indeed be the only President to find a way to spend $100 million on a trip to Africa. But we all know you don't want ot discuss all the misappropriation of funds Obama is responsible for.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:03 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Walter,

    We should be thankful Obama and the economy aren't joined at the hip.

    The economy has recovered in spite of Obama.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 4:39 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    Dagnabit! My pesky investments have also gained in per share value. 1 is at an all time high. BTW, as I said on another forum, 40 hr. workweeks were decreasing for at leat the last 20 years. I worked at 2 of lodi's biggest unionized employers and this was true then. So why all the hubbub about it now?

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:08 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1161

    Everyone please join me in congratulating...

    The Airmans Blog Squad's poster of the week...

    Joe Baxxter

    For service beyond the call of duty: For flying 13 sorties under adverse conditions and heavy enemy fire. For remaining at post and dogedly patroling the comments section for unchallenged liberal remmarks. For creating and delivering the "O-Blame-O bomb" - makes lots of noise but does little damage and leaves liberals and moderates laughing.

    Honorable mention goes to Jerry Kidderman with 2 sorties.

    Flagrant no show: The Colonel

    [beam]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:07 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1161

    Speaking of President Obama's economy...

    The S&P 500 climbed 1.3% and closed above 1,700 for the first time ever.

    The Dow Jones industrial average advanced 0.8% to 15628.02, a record high.

    The Nasdaq gained 1.4% closing at 3675.74, ending at its highest level in almost 13 years.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/01/investing/stocks-markets/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    [thumbup]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 2:34 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    A program by program breakdown of the costs of illegal immigration, and a summary of the bottom line costs can be found at www.fairus.org
    [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:02 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    Joe you ask for examples of an improving economy and I supply several I ask you for examples of your claim "taxpayers forced to support programs for illegal aliens" and you can not give one example you just give a rant about American citizens born to illegal parents like it or not being born here makes one a citizen. If you actually know of a program say so if not retract your false claim.


    If their is one program that uses tax dollars

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:53 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Brian, Obama is a user. Once he gets what he wants he turns his back. Oprah did more for his cause in the '08 election than anyone and he totally shuns her. The unions got duped to support him with millions in campaign funds and support, now he is using them like toilet paper. Obama is a first class agitator and con man, nothing more.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:46 pm on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Poor little liberal lemmings, they are willing to follow Owe-Blame-O right over the proverbial cliff.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:04 am on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Ms. Bobin stated,

    You do KNOW that the editor of Forbes is Malcolm Stevenson Forbes - failed Republican candidate (twice) for president, right? You really think he's going to allow an article crowing ANY Obama successes?

    -Perhaps not. But it's not like Forbes has much to do with contributing to digging Obama's grave. Case in point with Obamacare. The unions are furious with him because Obama and his health care plan has made the 40 hour work week about as common as a white bengal tiger.But Liberals still believe his intentions are good.

     
  • stan taves posted at 8:20 am on Thu, Aug 1, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 318

    Portraying Obama as inept isn't much of a challenge; however, if his many failures have been intentional then it is a cold calculated evil that drives his "transformation". It's a sad day indeed when ineptitude becomes our best hope.

     
  • Michael Hartung posted at 8:22 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    mhartung Posts: 25

    Joanne and Eric....I like you two. People that write on here and make sense. Good stuff.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 7:25 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1161


    Won't You Be My Neighbor

    It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
    A beautiful day for a neighbor.
    Would you be mine?
    Could you be mine?...

    It's a neighborly day in this beauty wood,
    A neighborly day for a beauty.
    Would you be mine?
    Could you be mine?...

    I've always wanted to have a neighbor just like you.
    I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

    So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
    Since we're together we might as well say:
    Would you be mine?
    Could you be mine?
    Won't you be my neighbor?
    Won't you please,
    Won't you please?
    Please won't you be my neighbor?

    By Fred M. Rogers

    [beam]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:15 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    A bill that passed by a vote of 216-208 isn't suddenly going to magically get 2/3 in both chambers Ms. Bobin.

    Honestly... [rolleyes]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:11 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    When unemployed people step on the government gravy train and no longer look for work, of course, the unemployment figures will go down. Unemployment percentages down while WELFARE percentages through the roof. America has more people on government entitlements that at any time in our history. You call this an improving economy? I sure don't. I too have money in the market. I froze a good portion in a money market account and am still "gambling" with some. The market is artificially inflated and the 'correction' is going tol wreak havoc on a lot of investors. Also, there is talk that the government is trying to figure out how to collect taxes on tax deferred accounts. I invest mostly in land, they don't make it any more.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:59 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Eric, you are under the misconception that I am a right winger. I wilol admit that I tend to lean right but actually, I am just an American that is disturbed at the direction I see the current administration taking the USA. At the current rate, it is just a matter of time before the entire country winds up like Detroit, INSOLVENT. Just what great policies has Obama laid down that has helped do anything except run up our debt? Surely, if things are goiing as great as you seem to think, you can name just a few? I am waiting.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:49 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    ERIC posted, "Joe, what programs for illegal aliens are you talking about?"
    For starters, tens of thousands of babies born to illegal border crossers, taxpayers picking up the cost.
    Tens of thousands of children now entitled to education, medication, food and housing assistance at taxpayers expense because they are American citizens, even though neigher parent was here legally, and most don't contribute a dime to federal or state income tax or social security. Millions of tax dollars spent in our education system to facilitate non-english speaking children here illegally.
    Billions of dollars shipped back to Mexico and other countries and not used to help our economy.
    I could go on, but I think even you can get the point.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:38 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Bobbin, yep, know all about Malcolm Stevenson Forbes. He didn't pen this particular article even though it appeared in his magazine. As usual, instead of disproving the content, you attack the messenger. Why don't you go borrow more money than you can possibly repay and see how your financial situation improves. Get a grip.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:19 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baxxter wrote: "Do you actually believe it is possible to spend your way out of debt?"

    Do YOU believe that the solution is to give the wealthy tax breaks that negate all of the "spending cuts" you are squealing about?

    And really...Forbes Magazine? That's like mentioning the Huffington Post and having Joe Baxxter laugh his big bottom off.

    You do KNOW that the editor of Forbes is Malcolm Stevenson Forbes - failed Republican candidate (twice) for president, right? You really think he's going to allow an article crowing ANY Obama successes?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:12 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    And then Congress with override the veto, Mr. Liebich.

    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:11 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baxxter wrote: "Yet no criticism of taxpayers forced to support programs for illegal aliens? We get "shafted" a lot more than twice."

    Another ill-informed person who thinks that illegal aliens are eating up all the entitlement program money.

    Mr. Barrow is correct - do you want to eliminate the Border Patrol? Or is it the money it will take to build a useless fence that right-wingers have been screaming about? You can't build a fence high enough - ever.

    Tell your Republican legislators that YOU would like to get in on the pork they are dishing out to their suppliers of helicopters and other military-style equipment they have requested to "protect the border." Maybe they will put YOUR name in the bill, too, just like the others who have wrapped up non-compete contracts.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 4:53 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    Your a smart guy Joe look at the numbers look at where they are when George started and when he ended his term and compare those numbers to where Obama started and where we are now. George took us to 10% unemployment Obama has that down to 7 and a half. George took a Dow Jones from 10,600 to 6,500 we are now back to OMG everybody with half a brain are making money. Set your ingrained ideology aside for two minutes and get yourself a little reality. I know your flyboy friends may not hang out with you anymore but at least you will be living in the real world.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 4:30 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    You can always tell how well things are going for the left by the shrillness of the right and it is getting pretty high pitched these day.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 4:22 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    Joe, Joe, Joe sounds like you have aligned yourself with the right, as they fail you feel that you are also failing common assumption happens in sports and politics I applaud you for not being a fare weather fan but at some point you got to hear that big woman singing.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 4:18 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    There are hidden job markets and there are countless high tech jobs available out there, just check out sites like your state EDD or job finding service and the lists of opportunities are plentiful. The problem? Not anywhere near enough qualified personnel to fill these high tech jobs. Whose fault is that? I know, let's blame everyone and everything except the people who don't want to further their education to fill these positions.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 4:13 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    Joe what programs for illegal aliens are you talking about? as far as I know the only program for illegals is deportation through ICE did you want to discontinue that?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:53 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Liberals "succeed"? If that were so, I wouldn't be on here posting against them. Please, except for getting elected, list their "successes".

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:46 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Yet no criticism of taxpayers forced to support programs for illegal aliens? We get "shafted" a lot more than twice.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:45 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The Obama administration has promised to veto the Farm Bill Ms. Bobin.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:44 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Eric, Eric, PRETEND the economy is doing terrible? You remind me of the little kid who doesn't want to hear anything bad, humming, your eyes closed and fingers in your ears. Please tell me what genuine "indicators", as opposed to Owe-Blame-O's claims, that show this wonderous recovering economy. For every job that has been "created", two more people go on government dole. Do you actually believe it is possible to spend your way out of debt? Exactly what this administration is passing off as a viable solution.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:16 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Don't worry, Andrew. Congress passed the Farm Bill minus the food stamp program, so I guess you better gear up to start serving at the food bank, eh?

    Loads of money for farmers NOT to grow crops and price supports that WE citizens are forced to subsidize. And then we'll ALSO have to pay more money for those products at the supermarket. We get shafted twice.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:11 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    Did you say something

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:10 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    And to think I actually believed this was a discussion about Barack Hussein Obama, not his predecessor. "

    Still having a hard time addressing the individuals that you are responding to, eh, Mr. Kinderman. I think there is a name for that.

    YOU are the one who wanted to make a list of foibles, as if it was SOLELY UNIQUE to President Barack HUSSEIN Obama (and still can't stop the extremely juvenile mentioning of his middle name - as if we all need to be reminded of YOUR phobias).

    Be patient - only 3 1/2 years until that "U-Haul" pulls up to the White House to take our ghetto president back home and the next one pulls up with Hillary and Bill on board.

    Or did you think this country would elect Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan, or Marco Rubio?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 2:50 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    It's inconceivable that anyone can claim that the economy is improving when the number of Americans on food stamps continues to set a brand new record every single month.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:35 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    I can't hear you.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:34 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    Drives the right crazy when liberals succeed, throws their whole ideology out of whack. Only thing that saved your tails when Clinton was in office was that he couldn't keep his zipper zipped his economic policies worked great. Luckily we survived the rights near destruction of this economy and perhaps Americans have learned a thing or two and we can continue down this path of prosperity.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:37 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    First the right can't believe that a black guy became president, that is a direct quote from some conservative friends, then they can't believe Keynesian economics works but the recession is halted. Then they stick their heads in the sand during second term election, in spite of numerous polls pointing to an Obama victory. Now they want pretend the economy is doing terrible in spite of many economic indicators to the contrary and Joe thinks it's the left that is being duped. The rights ability to support their ideology in the face of facts to the contrary is astonishing. As a liberal I will give Obama full credit for this economy my, investments are doing great, property values are doing great and the decisions made by the feds appear to allow continued improvement in this economy.
    The right better hope something changes cause if the left gains seats in the house and Obama is allowed to implement more policies to strengthen this economy the American people may finally see the right as the perverse obstructionist they are and it’s going to be a long time before they control anything again. We may actually see a third party arise from the rubble of republican’s self imposed destruction.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:32 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Are you sure? [sleeping]

    http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-joint-resolution/15

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:23 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    Just like the people in Adolf's bunker that were convinced Germany was still going to win the war, the liberals are convinced Owe-Blame-O has the answer and will blindly follow him to America's demise.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:12 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Why do most OPOLOGISTS have such a hard time with basic math?

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/ [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:07 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1585

    5 down 3 to go = two term president and that aint ever gonna change.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:29 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2365

    And to think I actually believed this was a discussion about Barack Hussein Obama, not his predecessor. After all, Obama isn’t still in the first few months of his presidency where it’s acceptable to lament what was left for any president to deal with. Of course whatever is already left on the plate upon arrival at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue shouldn’t be much of a surprise - but this president and his loyal followers just can’t seem to get into gear. Each time this happens now I just set back and give a little chuckle. The thing is, I’m sick and tired of chuckling so often! Almost five years of it is beyond getting old – it’s downright silly.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:09 pm on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Quite a few more like:
    "9/11,"
    "USA Patriot Act,"
    "Afghanistan,"
    "Iraq,"
    "Medicare Prescription Plan,"
    "No Child Left Behind,"
    "President's Surveillance Program,"
    "Enhanced Interrogation,"
    "Abu Ghraib,"
    "Hurricane Katrina,"
    "Deregulation,"
    "Housing Bubble,"
    "Subprime Mortgages,"
    "3.3 Trillion in deficit spending,"
    "Doubling the National Debt to 10.6 Trillion,"

    And this one should really have someone po'd - nominating John Roberts to the Supreme Court - the same John Roberts who was the swing vote to declare Obamacare constitutional!!

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:54 am on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1892

    I realizxe the poor liberals want so badly to believe our lying president. With his charismatic cheshire cat smile, he lies about everything and the poor saps who believe him are easily duped. Same old BS, same results. Here is a Forbes magazine article that I will believe before I believe Owe-Blame-O.
    " The American economy isn’t healing at all. What we have accomplished is to further cement our addictions to debt, over consumption and inflation. Those very same conditions were the progenitors of the Great Recession beginning in December of 2007. Oil prices are soaring above $100 a barrel, inflation is rising and households are still soaked in debt…sound familiar? Only now the nation’s sovereign debt is at a record level and the country is careening towards insolvency. The only thing holding the economy together is the Fed’s promise of free money forever. That shouldn’t be misconstrued as a viable and healthy economy."

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:01 am on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2365

    Yes Mr. Mauer, it certainly DOES matter who is president. One word proves that: "Obamacare." Or maybe two words: Benghazi. Come to think of it, there may be quite a few more that would prove that who is president is a rather important thing.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 10:47 am on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 450

    Does it really matter who is president? Seems to me that history shows again and again that Americans are a strong,resilient people who face adversity and whatever challenges come our way head on and still manage to come out on top, despite who is president. Even the most anti-Obama books I've read don't consider him a communist,socialist,etc. He is one unique cat who should be judged by his own successes and failures as anyone should be, and where the failures are, that is where we Americans have stood strong and hopefully, always will, the way we have in the past.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:56 am on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Well, hazardous waste has won another victory - the fumes have done their damage.

    Ron Portal wrote: "He looks pretty rested to me, going on more vacations than any president or presidential family in history."

    How do you figure that, Ron?

    "from Nancy Reagan: "Presidents don't get vacations — they just get a change of scenery. The job goes with you." The responsibilities, the pressure, the officer with the "nuclear football" — it's all with a commander-in-chief at all times. No exceptions."

    Let's compare Presidential Vacations:

    Obama - 2009-present 72 days

    GW Bush - over 8 years 977 days (490 in Crawford/487 at Camp David) A WHOPPING 2.6 FULL YEARS on vacation.

    Ronald Reagan - over 8 years 436 days

    Again - the Africa trip was a diplomatic tour - not a vacation. His wife and daughters were not even with him half the time.

    With your reasoning, I suppose when Mrs. Portal climbs into the passenger seat of your truck for a jaunt over to the Bay Area, YOU call that a vacation, too, right?

    "Obama and his willing communists..."

    WHO are the "willing communists?" How have YOU determined who the "willing communists" are and who are not?

    This letter is a convoluted mess of made-up nonsense with absolutely NO supporting facts. Ridiculous - as usual.

     
  • Michael Hartung posted at 7:29 am on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    mhartung Posts: 25

    Yes Ron it is his economy now and I give him full credit for turning around the mess Bush left him. Housing prices are up, the auto industry is saved, unemployment is down and my investments are doing quite well. So why are you complaining.....same as always....a black guy/pinko commie socialist is president. Well that is my complaint with Obama not been socialist enough. Wall Street is booming under his watch, market at all time high and the middle class getting left behind again. But I will blame the idiots in congress including the democrats for that. Bury your head in the sand and leave the guy alone. Looking forward to Hillary in 2016!

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 7:10 am on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2600

    Obama is a communist in the same sense that Ron Portal is a fascist.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 7:09 am on Wed, Jul 31, 2013.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2600

    I'd give Ron's opinions a bit more credence if he would just bite the bullet and admit that he is entirely to blame for the War of 1812.

     

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