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Letter: Transgender bill shows common sense is lacking in our government

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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:00 am

Last week, Gov. Jerry Brown signed the transgender bill A.B. 1266 — which was endorsed and supported by Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco — into law.

I am irritated and frustrated with our Gov. Jerry Brown over the importance and responsibility to protect our children. This bill has torn through the very fabric of many teachings based upon personal or religious beliefs. Gov. Jerry Brown’s signature on this bill does not represent an important victory, but a blow to all spiritual families and many California citizens, not to mention that it compromises the privacy and rights of students throughout California.

This recent action by Gov. Jerry Brown and Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, has forced me to re-examine sending my child to public school. It is not the government’s concern to teach my child ethics and morals. This latest decision has deliberately offended my religious upbringing and beliefs on how to raise my child, and forces them to tolerate and be exposed to unpleasant situations.

Due to this recent unnerving A.B. 1266 passing, I will be contacting my elected officials to gain support for a bill that will give special exempt status or tax breaks for all families who send their children to private schools, to help offset the cost of private schools and protect our children from harm.

I am greatly concerned when our elected officials refuse to see the obvious and use common sense.

Mike McCune


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  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:35 pm on Tue, Aug 27, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 564

    research: legislative branches and who makes laws...

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:32 pm on Tue, Aug 27, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 564

    To those that this affects, it probably is a problem of such "pervasive magnitude". Must be nice in your perfect bubble, though. Just make sure no xenophobes get in there with you... they're the worst.

  • Debbie Meade posted at 12:16 pm on Tue, Aug 27, 2013.

    DebYZ Posts: 13

    How silly I'm sure but this post, even tho it only spoke of changing in the nurses room, made me tear up. How brave to post with how many people on here are so quick to condemn. I'm sure it's not easy, but hopefully everyone will be accepting of every one in the future. That's the world I want for my child.

  • Debbie Meade posted at 12:12 pm on Tue, Aug 27, 2013.

    DebYZ Posts: 13

    Some are nice people the rest are failed Darwin Experments . LOL I Love it [thumbup]

  • Debbie Meade posted at 12:10 pm on Tue, Aug 27, 2013.

    DebYZ Posts: 13

    I don't think that this is anyone looking for a hand out. This about being accepted. Everyone in some way wants acceptance. Just like your looking for people to accept your way of thinking via your post.

  • Debbie Meade posted at 12:06 pm on Tue, Aug 27, 2013.

    DebYZ Posts: 13


  • John Kindseth posted at 11:16 am on Tue, Aug 27, 2013.

    John Kindseth Posts: 254

    I did not know that this was a problem of such pervasive magnitude that it required state mandated legislation.

    I think all of us could submit issues that are of far more importance.

  • Mike Adams posted at 10:19 am on Mon, Aug 26, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1861

    What is so disappointing about this issue is the absolute ignorance of so many who have not the slightest idea what the legislation actually says. Particularly some who have posted here demonstrate not a wit of not only the legislation istself, but the willful act of reading it. They only complain. In the demonstration of ignorance, they only reveal their true aim: complaining.

    This law says nothing about "unisex" bathrooms. This law says nothing about "cutting off your gonads" as one poster, in his most elegant moment, alleged. In the small number of cases where boys and girls compete on separate teams, such as swimming and wrestlilng, separate locker rooms are already the norm. This law just enables someone who may not believe that their assigned gender is the correct one, or as in the case, some are born either with both sets of genetalia or their genetallia are damaged very early in life, neccesatating the assignment of one gender different then the one that may have been listed on their birth certificate.

    I'm sure back in the day, many of those against this law would have preferred that they grow up as part of a travelling circus or institutionalized and punished. Now, I ask: would we put a young boy or girl, born with no arms in a traveling circus or institution? Would we allow them the same academic opportunities as those of us with 2 arms? Or would we punish them for something that was not their fault.

    I had a relative who once wondered aloud as to the education of blilnd children. "What could they do?" "Why should we send them to school?" Yes you're right. Stevie Wonder should be in a hospital wilth others like him. Jim Plunkett's parents should never have been allowed to marry and have children.

  • Ed Walters posted at 9:11 pm on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 775

    Since this is another problem that not everyone will agree with, simple solution, put a stand up where the girls change for PE, and a sit down in the boys room, already have one there. Problem solved. Since Moonbeam made it the law in California, learn to live with it, what else can you do. [sad]

  • Ed Walters posted at 6:03 pm on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 775

    Edna: If you stay with this link long enough, you as Mr.Kinderman explaned will need a thick skin, the size of armor plate. Some are nice people the rest are failed Darwin Experments . Don`t leave yourself open to any kind of back stabing, stay netural is your best bet. It will be nice to see that most people agree with me. [beam]

  • John Lucas posted at 10:30 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Bingo! [thumbup]

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:54 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 564


  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:54 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 564

    "This bill has torn through the very fabric of many teachings based upon personal or religious beliefs."

    "It is not the government’s concern to teach my child ethics and morals."

    so your ethics and morals, that you wish would continue to be reflected at public schools, are in jeopardy, but it's not their job to teach ethics and morals. The fact that you don't see how hypocritical that is is the problem with those that think like you.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:49 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 564


  • John Lucas posted at 7:44 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


  • John Lucas posted at 7:41 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Sorry Mr McCune but common sense does not equal bigotry. The efforts of people like you to force their religious and personal views on others is ugly and mean spirited at the least and violates the greatest of American ideals which is tolerance of those who are different from ourselves. It is not up to others to live up to your standards or live by your belief system but up to you to live up to them. If what you believe is so great show people by your example and maybe they will come around. Religious and spiritual values are not about others but about how we live our own lives.

  • John Lucas posted at 7:29 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Excellent comment. Spot on. These people who advocate bigotry in the name of "values" need to be called out for their mean spirited, vicious behavior. Good job Joanne.

  • John Lucas posted at 7:25 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


  • John Lucas posted at 7:23 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Bringing there "normal" view to the discussion? I think not. You might try not putting words in other peoples mouths. You ascribe views to people that have no basis in reality. One can see you like to bully those who disagree with what you consider "normal" but you might try what Jesus advocated. Tolerance.

  • John Lucas posted at 7:17 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    [smile] [thumbup]

  • John Lucas posted at 7:13 am on Sun, Aug 25, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:20 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Good comments, Mr. Kinderman.

    Have YOU reported "Will Rainwater's" disgusting comments and personal attacks?

    "edna," yes - Mr. McCune IS asking for MY tax dollars to pay for his children's private education. I pay property taxes and other taxes that contribute to public schools but I have no children in public school anymore. MY MONEY is paying for the current group of public school goers and I'm not willing to pay for Mr. McCune's kids' private education.

    Anyone who believes that vouchers are a good idea has no clue about the debacle this would cause to public schools.

    Get an extra job like so many others do if you want your kids to have a private education.

  • Debbie Meade posted at 9:42 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    DebYZ Posts: 13

    Wow! Where do I start? Of course it all boils down to YOUR beliefs. Why is it people that are religious think its there way and that's it? You don't want your kid going to school with someone who believes they were born the wrong gender, well I don't want my child going to school with some closed minded people. You are what's wrong with the world today. You say it's not for the schools to teach morals to your child. Its not their job to enforce your religious beliefs either... separation of church and state, remember that. How about this.. mind your own beeswax! I doubt a transgendered person is going to try to get your kid to, as stated in another post, get your child to cut off his gonads. Im sure no one would know they were trans. Your job is to teach your child to be a caring, loving, empathetic adult. Not closed minded. I wonder what you would do if your child came to you and said I'm gay, or I think I should have been born a boy... or girl? Id love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.

  • Mike Adams posted at 6:22 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1861

    "They need to just put a huge sign on the State Capitol, "FAIRYLAND" .Power to the freaks and weirdos, to hell with normal people!!!"

    You see? Would a normal educated person say this? In the local newspaper of all places? And "the normal people" wonder why legislation like AB 1266 has to be written, passed, and signed.

    Please, there must be some of the "the normal people" who are offended by this.

  • Will Rainwater posted at 4:47 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Will Rainwater Posts: 49

    I`m pretty sure all of us on the right would be happy with no new taxes for anything! But then what would the left have to do? I mean spending other people`s money is how they maintain their self-esteem!!

  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:46 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1713

    Why are those on the right always looking for handouts. I work hard for my money and i don't see why the regular public schools that are good enough for the rest of the hard working taxpayers aren't good enough for those freeloaders wanting vouchers from my tax dollars. If I have to pay for public schools and I got to pay for vouchers for your school for sexual orientations opinioniods then that's just stealing more tax dollars out of my pocket. I say no new taxes for vouchers for privileged private schoolers we are taxed enough.

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 2:12 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2421

    Welcome to Lodi, Ms. Welsh. One of the things required for contributors on this forum is a relatively thick skin. Although the posted Rules of Conduct prohibit personal attacks against anyone, you won't find them rare; they're a dime a dozen.

    Of course if you believe any comment is egregiously in violation of the rules, simply click on the "Report" link that accompanies each comment. If the moderators agree with you, the comment will be removed.

    Best of luck!

  • edna Welsh posted at 1:38 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    EDW Posts: 3

    As a newcomer to Lodi area, I don't know Mr. Chang or Mr. McCune. Nevertheless, I am disturbed by Mr. Chang's personal attack on Mr. McCune. I suggest that Mr. Chang to stick to the issue.

    I do support a voucher system to give parents a choice where to send their children including homeschool their children. We are not asking for YOUR money, Mrs. Bobin, we are asking to take our money with us to the schools of our choices.

    As for the bill itself, the fact that this bill requires no medical proofs but rather a simple self-claim does trouble me.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:31 am on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Good information, Mr. Chang.

    Although I don't understand all of the implications of this bill (good information, though, from Russell Nelson), and on the face of it I'm not sure I agree with this legislation or the broad extent of it, ( i.e., how many transgender students are there in California? Probably more than I realize.), I am greatly offended by Mike McCune's belief (or should I say DEMAND) that he and others that send their kids to private school in order to "protect them" from transgender students are entitled to a tax break for having to pay for tuition.

    "Special exempt status?" Not sure what that means - maybe "exempt from paying property taxes?" Why? Either you take advantage of public schools or you don't. It's your choice and I certainly do not want to fund YOUR kids education at a private school.

    Like all others who believe that their "religious beliefs" are being trampled, Mr. McCune refuses to realize that his attitude is selfish and that HIS needs come before anyone else's. No one is forcing him to "raise his children" in a different manner. But perhaps not shielding kids from the realities of the world while at the same time reinforcing his religious values without prejudice might be a better tack than turning them into haters and fear mongerers.

    Good luck with your political future, Mr. McCune. Apparently, the voters in Galt have already declined to listen to your narrow, self-important opinions. Hopefully, they will continue to do so.

  • Walter Chang posted at 9:30 am on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1344


  • Russell_Nelson posted at 9:14 am on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Russell_Nelson Posts: 1

    I feel people don't understand this bill. As being the only open trans person at Lodi high this bill protects me. I would never change in the boys locker room because I wouldn't be safe yet I would never change in the girls because they wouldn't feel safe. So this bill allows me to change at the nurses office for PE. If you want to contact me personally my email is zoeyn70@gmail.com I am also president of the Lodi high gay straight alliance.

  • Walter Chang posted at 9:03 am on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1344

    "I am irritated and frustrated"

    Mike McCune is a politician. That's according to his own Facebook page.

    Mike is starting his election bid for Galt City Council 2014. He's tried before and failed.

    So with this letter, he's building name recognition and pandering to the Archconservative/Retrogressive "Christian" crowd in Galt.

    Expect several more in the coming months.

    Mike recently started a Twitter account, @mccuneforGalt, you can join his 4 other followers and enjoy his "unique spin" (think FOXNEWS) on current events.

    Citizens of Galt, please look past Mike's fear mongering and consider helping him out.

    He's going up against Barbara Payne's motley crew.

    He needs all the help he can get!!!



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