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Letter: A plan is needed to fix Obama’s health care act

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Posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 am

Sometimes there is the fear of the unknown, but now, the more I see, the more I am fearing the information the government is allowing the general public to know about the Obama health plan. It is getting worse every day.

We are basically taking from the working and legally giving to the non-working and non-citizens. We are in process of damaging people who earn enough to make ends meet, and now they will soon be trying to survive poverty.

Why won’t anyone do anything — mediate, moderate, talk, discuss, then make a plan? They are creating a plan, and then they are going to try to go back and correct its problems — there are many. It is like making a new road with built-in pot holes.

I don’t care what party you belong to, this is not government at work the way it should work — stop, start over, do it again but only right this time.

Phil Hamilton

Lodi

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23 comments:

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 7:49 am on Sun, Jan 5, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 539

    Who would pay the exhorbitant costs od the "assigned risk" pool. I know who pays the extra costs of pre-existing conditions in a group. I do. I, a younger, healthier individual subsidize those whose insurance would otherwise be extremely expensive. Who will subsidize the "assigned risk" pool?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:30 am on Sat, Jan 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    "Healthcare.gov could not actually verify his identity oddly enough" sounds like English to most Ms. Bobin.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:46 pm on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Ever hear of "assigned risk" insurance for automobiles? Insurance companies could be pooled together and provide insurance for people with pre-existing conditions, an "assigned risk" program, so to speak. to provide coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. How do employees with pre-existing conditions get coverage through their employer group progrms? They are mixed in with the rest of the empoyees and the insurance companies take the bad with the good. ANYTHING would be better than the train wreck called ObamaCare which will not and can not sustain itself withoug bilions of taxpayer subsidies.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:57 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    [smile]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:28 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    5,680,600 plans have been cancelled so far which is why Politifact awarded the Lie of Year to President Barack Obama for his claim, “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.” F.Y.I. He said it thirty-six times.
    [sleeping]

    This year, insurers had to cancel insurance on over 5 million Americans and they had to send those notices out before October because individual policies come under HIPPA rules. Those rules say insurers have to tell a person ninety days ahead of time before they cancel him.

    Next year, small businesses must conform to the “minimum coverage mandate.” Now employer-sponsored group insurance falls under ERISA rules. Those rules say an insurer must tell the employer soon enough to tell the employees sixty days ahead. So those individuals will start getting notices in the mail on November 1, 2014 and the election takes place on November 4! What a spot for Democrats to be in. Three days before the election, some 80 million of their staunchest voters will get these nastygrams in the mail.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:15 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Is that what YOU got out of the youtube video.

    You must speak some other language than English, because that is not what was said on the video.

    What is REALLY wrong with you, Mr. Liebich?

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 8:54 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 539

    Did facebook have 20 million lines of code at it's inception?

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 8:52 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 539

    I'll bite. How could pre-existing conditions have been "easily" addressed?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:16 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    Unfortunately Mr. Diskin your coverage is NOT "nearly identical in every way."

    Blue Shield of California, said its exchange customers will be restricted to 36% of its regular physician network statewide. Dr. Jeff Rideout, the CA exchange’s senior medical adviser has even conceded that many individual plans have networks that include fewer providers than non-ACA plans offered by the same insurers.

    So, why did your coverage drop from $380/mo. to $229/mo.?

    It dropped because Blue Shield has agreed to use some of its record-high reserves of $3.9 billion to hold down premiums. Why?

    Do you remember the December 3rd White House promotional event which featured 18 individuals standing behind President Obama? Small Business Majority brought 9 of the 18. Who is Small Business Majority? Small Business Majority is a pro-Obamacare advocacy group that is substantially funded by Blue Shield which of course stands to profit from Obamacare. White House officials of course refused to identify any of the people on the platform behind Obama that day, their organizational ties or how they were selected to participate in the event.

    Did you know that a Federal Register notice posted the day before the White House event said insurance companies, including Blue Shield of California, will get tax-funded "offsets" for losses incurred as a result of participating in Obamacare?

    I'm guessing no.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:20 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1444

    I like my current insurance and it appears that I can keep it.

     
  • David Diskin posted at 12:10 am on Fri, Jan 3, 2014.

    David Diskin Posts: 178

    My insurance through Blue Shield dropped from $380/mo to $220/mo, and the coverage is nearly identical in every way.

    I didn't even qualify for subsidies because of my income, and so it could have dropped even more for someone else.

    Not only that, but signing up took all of 10 minutes on California's website, which was running smoothly since September.

    I think anyone that is going to complain about "ObamaCare" needs to get a quote first.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:59 pm on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    [smile] [thumbup]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:53 pm on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    Barack Obama tried to make a symbolic gesture and sign up for his own health care plan. He could not. Why? His Social Security number tripped him up.
    [sleeping]

    A FACT reported by Ed Henry, senior White House correspondent for Fox News on DECEMBER 24, 2013.
    [sleeping]

    ROFLMAO... http://youtu.be/7HE2p2YLiTw

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:02 pm on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Replaced with what? With people stepping up to the plate and being financially responsible for their own welfare, including insurance, instead of nursing off of the taxpayer's back pocket.
    The "pre-existing condition" exclusions could have been easily addressed without the Federal Government stepping in and kidnapping the entire healthcare system.
    Lots of people who go to work for a company, and have "pre-existing" conditons", are able to get coverage through their employers group insurance.
    We have become a nation of the "gimmee, gimmee's", people who want something for nothing, and our sociaist president is more than happy to see that that happens. America has officially more entitlement receivers than producers and that ratio is growing on a daily basis. A government powerful enough to give you what you need is also powerful enough to take it all away.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:29 pm on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Mr. Chang, I doubt that will happen in your lifetime, if ever.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:53 pm on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    On October 1, Healthcare.gov had 500 million lines of code Walter, and could handle a handful of simultaneous users. Facebook.com has 20 million lines of code, and handles millions of simultaneous users.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:43 pm on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    It never ceases to amaze me what Andrew Liebich will "write" in this forum.

    Conspiracy theory websites are the only ones reporting this BS, Mr. Liebich, so it doesn't surprise me that YOU are repeating it.

    Number one, it's an old story and number two, how do you think Obama has been filing his tax returns for years.

    FYI - the IRS matches social security numbers and questions any differences.

    FYI - in order to be PAID by the federal government (as Obama is), ones SS# MUST BE VERIFIED or you don't get paid - or do you want to claim now that they make an exception for Obama for some conspiracy related reason?

    Here's the "conspiracy" found to be false by Snopes:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

    As usual, Mr. Liebich should be should be "flagged" as a obsessive compulsive conspiracy theorist who spends a hell of a lot of time digging up irrelevant nonsense.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:46 am on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    The Healthcare.gov website says the only information required for applying for health-care coverage on the government exchange is a Social Security Number, employer and income verification, and the policy numbers of any current health-insurance plans.

    Why then was HealthCare.gov unable to verify Obama’s identity? Yes, E-Verify flagged his SSN. I suppose if you like your stolen and fake social security number, you can keep your stolen and fake social security number?
    [sleeping]

    Why should any American sign up for Obamacare and take on a high risk of identity theft and a 100% certainty of government abuse and mismanagement when the so-called president, who signed Obamacare into law, cannot verify his own identity through government databases?
    [sleeping]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 8:54 am on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1071


    "fixing"

    Spoken like a "computer programer" whose never written any code!

    Formulating complex regulations is alot like writing software.

    Seldom does version 1.0 work properly, there's always a revision 1.2 or an update or a service pack in the works.

    To suggest otherwise is just pure ridiculousness!!

    So be patient Jerry...

    The "coding errors" in the health care laws will get revised for maxium performance!

    [smile]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:26 am on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    typical. All outrage and criticism and nothing substantial on what would be your plan. Do you guys ever get tired of whining? BTW Obamacare is working and will make healthcare in this country more affordable and better. I love your guys betting all your marbles on it not working. In a very short time your insanity on the subject is going to pay huge dividends for those on my side of the street. I encourage you to keep up your whining and complaining.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:56 am on Thu, Jan 2, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2948

    President Pinnocchio isn't going to "fix” anything; it’s about political damage control and how to hide the failure of Obamacare from the American people until after the 2014 election.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 8:36 pm on Wed, Jan 1, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 539

    I'll bite. Replace with what.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:12 am on Wed, Jan 1, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2320

    Does anyone else see the ridiculousness to even consider “fixing” something that is brand new? I like Costco’s policy - if you purchase anything from them and once you take it home and find that it is broken in any way, just return the entire item back to them and they’ll simply replace it. In fact, that’s their policy for 90 days from date of purchase.

    I suggest that the entire plan be replaced.

     

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