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Letter: There was no need for excessive force

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Posted: Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:00 am

The shooting death of Parminder Singh Shergill by our veteran police was senseless !

The deceased only had a knife, not a gun. The police were not in mortal danger of losing their lives. It doesn’t matter whether he was charging them or not. I’m sure either officer could have inflicted one shot to the foot or leg. This would have been enough to maim him long enough to get the knife away from him. There was no need to fire several shots and kill him.

My condolences go out to the family and friends of Mr. Shergill.

Barbara Portal


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  • Mike Adams posted at 5:25 pm on Sun, Feb 2, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1559

    Kevin: I don't think liability is the reason for "shooting to wound". Gunfire in a shootout is notoriously inaccurate. And the distance isn't the problem. Most officer involved shootings take place at 20' or less and involve few rounds fired (or used to). I bet the hit rate is somewhere around 4-5% of rounds fired. Just a little bit better than two battleships slugging it out (about 1-2%). If you were here in Dec. '83, a local officer stopped a person to tell him detectives wanted to talk to him. He wasn't arresting him or detaining him, just passing on the message. The guy whipped out a gun and started firering. The officer did to. Officer hit in the arm, had to pull a back up piece to drop the assailant. Point is, both emptied their guns and they were both not much farther from each other then you are to your computer screen.

    The shoot them in the leg thing would be fine unless you hit an artery. Or a nerve like the sciatic. Now you got either a dead guy or one that will never walk again.

    I do think in this case however, I would want to know how many shots were fired and why a taser wasn't deployed first. I"m not saying the police were at fault until all the facts come out.

    You should be suspicious as to why almost every single officer involved shooting comes back as a good shoot though. IE, the police were justified in every single case? My bet is this will come back good as well and knowing the caliber of LPD's officers, I would expect nothing less, but it's still food for thought though.

  • Mike Adams posted at 10:08 am on Sun, Feb 2, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1559

    " I’m sure either officer could have inflicted one shot to the foot or leg. "

    Sorry Ms. Portal. It doesn't work like that.

  • Will Rainwater posted at 8:58 pm on Sat, Feb 1, 2014.

    Will Rainwater Posts: 45

    No comments allowed I see.... way to go Rich!

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 1:19 pm on Sat, Feb 1, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2370

    "It doesn't matter if he was charging them or not?" Actually it certainly DOES matter.

    Even in loveable, liveable Lodi, crime is a problem - even attacks against police officers. When they un-holster their weapons and take aim, just hurting the offender is not their first choice. For whatever reason, they must have felt to have been in "mortal danger" else they would not have fired off.

    In this day and age, when anyone takes on a cop with any kind of weapon they're either stupid or trying for suicide by cop.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:24 am on Sat, Feb 1, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2106

    Officers can NOT shoot an attacker in the leg or foot cause they and the city will get sued. They "could" have used tasers, but there too police departments and cities are being sued for injuries sustained by taser usage.

    The attacker, according to police, had a knife. They WERE in mortal danger in that case. Knives are weapons that can inflict a lot of damage fast. Didn't mater if it was a rock, knife or club, if you attack, or make an aggressive charge at a police officer you stand a very good chance of being shot.

    Now, that said, it appears that there is some doubt as to what really happened and I will reserve judgment on this situation until the facts come out.

  • Will Rainwater posted at 9:22 am on Sat, Feb 1, 2014.

    Will Rainwater Posts: 45

    Maybe the Lodi Police Foundation should forget about raising money for a armored personnel carrier and start raising money for these officers criminal defense fund...


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