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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 5:55 am, Tue Dec 18, 2012.

In defense of Christy White's letter in regards to the Rainbow Project float in the parade, I have a question: Could someone please tell me what the letters "LGBT" stand for? And could someone then define those words for me (without any mention of sexuality)?

I am wondering just how I would explain this float to my 6-year-old granddaughter! Thank you.

Loretta Daniels

Lodi

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13 comments:

  • brian ratto posted at 9:27 am on Thu, Dec 27, 2012.

    brian ratto Posts: 8

    Just another invitation to everyone here.
    The Lodi Rainbow Project is meeting on January 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm at the Lodi Round Table Pizza (Kettleman Ln. and Lower Sacramento Rd.)
    Everyone is welcome to join us.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:55 am on Wed, Dec 19, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Oscar stated...Last but not least dont forget to say, they are all perfectly normal and we will love you no matter what you turn out to be

    They?... you mean it... it= love. Love is normal and it is natural to love. Since without love life has little meaning. As far as people and what is normal, that is a different topic. When I am in Malaysia or China normal is completely different that when in Thailand. Normal in USA is bizarre in some places... However, love is normal in all places.

     
  • Oscar Orejel posted at 7:59 pm on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    oscar orozco orejel Posts: 5

    just say it with "love"

    Lesbian =when a girl loves a girl, Gay=when a boy loves a boy, Bisexual=when a boy or a girl loves another boy or girl. This means that they could fall in love with both, Transgender=when a boy or girl is born in the wrong body and wants to be the boy or girl that they are. This person could also love boys, girls or both

    Last but not least dont forget to say, they are all perfectly normal and we will love you no matter what you turn out to be

    Hope this helps

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:10 pm on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    I think what Manuel and others are talking about is defining what a homosexual relationship is. Yes, I think when 2 people of the same sex love each other and enter into a committed relationship, they fit the definition. However, that is off topic to this letter.


    I understood that present it("LGBT") is a movement with inter-related goals of social acceptance of sexual and gender minorities. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people and their allies have a long history of campaigning for what is generally called LGBT rights... in other words, about politics.

    At present, this model of society is being rejected by the LGBT movement. And it is being rejected not to the extent that the movement simply disagrees with, and disapproves of, its detractors, but to the extent that it equates all disagreement and disapproval of itself with bigotry, and seeks to classify any question about the tenets of its own orthodoxy as hate speech.

    That would explain the tactic people in Lodi News Sentinel use to silence opposition.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 12:48 pm on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    I am not sure it is that simple. I had a friend I played cards against many many years. The first five years I did not even know he was gay. He was with the same person for 25 years when that person died. I got to know both of them over the years and they had a relationship that was loving and caring as I had ever seen. When Bob died my friend went into an extended period of grief and many of us were very worried about him. It took him 2 years to come out of it. That one relationship made me re-think everything I thought I knew about gay relationships and relationships in general

     
  • Manuel Martinez posted at 12:12 pm on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    Manuel Martinez Posts: 641

    "See those two boys over there? Well they love each other just as much as your mom and dad love each other."

    Done.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 11:43 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    I think Ms Daniels was asking how do you explain LBGT to a six year old. No easy task and a good question. I would ask how do we explain the importance of love and acceptance for our neighbors is even more important and is something all of us need to learn. I know I am not perfect in that regard. Just a thought.

     
  • Chalon Roberts posted at 11:01 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    Chalon Posts: 21

    Its the same as saying describe heterosexuals with out mentioning sexuality. Plain and simply its 2 people that love and care for each other. Lesbians, 2 women who love and care about each other. Gay, 2 men that love and care for each other. Bi-sexual, 2 people who care about each other and may or may not be same gender.

    Transgender is a little more difficult, (and is on the fringe of the group, like Tea Party or Occupy is a fringe group of the whole). Transgender is someone that has been determined medically to be living in the opposite gender as what their mental make up seems to be, ie; a man living in a womans body, or a woman living in a mans body. Transgender can be gay, lesbian or bi-sexual. I read a study recently that said as many 40% transgender (who were born men) will identify as lesbians meaning they never had an attraction to men, they were always lesbian living in a mans body... its complicated and hard to understand or even for many to identify with. I have tried to read a lot to help me understand but there are competing theories.

    Hope that helps, its the same as heterosexual in that its simply two people who love each other and are looking for someone like them to live the rest of their lives with.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:36 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1179

    Thanks Brian
    [smile]

     
  • brian ratto posted at 10:03 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    brian ratto Posts: 8

    Mrs. Daniels,

    The answer to your question is simple.

    LGBT is the acronym used to describe individuals who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgendered. There are more than these four letters in the actual acronym but the generally accepted acronym is LGBT.

    The meaning of the float was to show that LGBT people are the same as everyone else. All they wanted to do was spread holiday cheer to everyone.

    If you wanted to explain what homosexuality is then please do. Homosexuality is the same as heterosexuality just with the same gender. Lesbians are females who are attracted (since birth) to females. Gays are males who are attracted (since birth) to males. Bisexuals are either male or female and are attracted (since birth) to both males and females. Transgenders are males or females that have been born with the physical appearance of one gender but the mental gender is the opposite. A male who was born in a females body would be a male to female transgender, while a female that was born into a males body would be a female to male transgender. Transgenders can be straight, gay, lesbian or bisexual.

    All I ask is that you do what you feel is in their best interest, and honor the wishes of their parents.

    Just because we love differently does not make us different.

     
  • Robert Marty posted at 7:50 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    rmartygeo Posts: 30

    Well done, Mr. Baumbach.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:46 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Depends on where you are coming from.

    If you are a person, religious or not, who believes our sexuality is something we are born with and in itself neither good or bad you might try this:

    As we get older people come to understand more about themselves. A lesbian is a mommy who wants to be with other mommies. A gay man is a daddy who wants to be with other daddies. Other people are unsure whether they are a mommy or a daddy. It is not easy to understand but however they decide the important thing is that they deserve to be treated as anyone else.

    If you are a Christian who believes that the decisions these people make are against God’s wishes but is from the Jesus side of Christianity you might try this:

    A lesbian is a mommy who wants to be with other mommies. A gay man is a daddy who wants to be with other daddies. Other people are unsure whether they are a mommy or a daddy. It is not easy to understand and I cannot approve of their actions because I believe it is against God’s wishes. However the highest law commands me that I should love my neighbor and honor them as members of our community.

    If you are a Christian of the Old Testament and Paul school of Christianity such as Peter Bellville who wrote this:

    A couple generations ago homosexuality was repugnant, shunned, ostracized, as a monstrous vice. Later it was endured as a subculture, pitied as a mental illness, and now paraded before our faces to be embraced. Judge Scalia was questioned in the news recently for his comments about gay marriage. Back in 2003 he predicted gay marriage would be legalized. What is next? Incest? Murder? We are a schizophrenic nation in search for our morality because we have lost it. We are being blinded by a moral syphilis.

    I really do not know what to tell you.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:05 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    LGBT is an initialism that collectively refers to the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community.

    Task... do not mention sexuality... result... I am perplexed.

    May I ask, wouldn't that be like like having an egg omelet without talking about chickens? Or NAACP without talking about race?

    Maybe the author of the letter that stated sexuality was not a factor should answer that question.

    As far as talking to your granddaughter, I would say people who are very clever came up with a way to describe a group people can join where avoiding what they are joining can be less of a problem.

    For example, the NAACP is an accepted name of a particular group, but if they actually said out loud what the title stood for, would be harsh since it sounds racist ( National Association for the Advancement of Color People)... so of course, we are talking about hiding what the group is about by clever manipulation of words.

     

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