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Letter: The campaign for the 2016 election has started

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Posted: Thursday, February 6, 2014 6:31 am

Something to ponder over: Why is the left spending so much time, effort and money attacking Gov. Christie of New Jersey? After all, the next presidential election is still some three years away, and many a thing can arise in life and politics in that long a span.

With the president’s approval rating declining and the party obviously anxious to remain in office, their future rides on the shoulders of Hillary Clinton. Who else in their ranks could they possibly consider? A good manager develops people — a potential replacement for when the boss steps down. This cannot be said of this administration.

So, back to Christie. The proven and successful strategy of the progressives has been a “discredit” program. It is again in the making. A good beginning would be “tunnelgate,” the lane blocking and monumental traffic snafu of the George Washington Bridge. Investigators may not find Christie had a hand in it, but it really won’t matter, since implication normally trumps truth in such situations.

From this point, the fault-finders will have a field day on that, as they might suggest, an overweight and obnoxious sexist bully — a way of discrediting the opposition in lieu of facing their own lack of accomplishments.

The media, which has been somewhat neutral of late, will surely retrench in an effort to exhibit their proven liberalism by supporting Clinton as the appropriate choice for the presidency in 2016.

Their fear is that Christie, unlike McCain and Romney, would engage in a “take no prisoners” campaign. Hard questions would surely be asked, and frivolous answers such as “it really doesn’t matter” would not be accepted. Clinton’s term as Secretary of State would be put under a microscope, and she would be challenged to defend her lack of accomplishments and her absence when under fire.

It appears that whoever is calling the shots for the incumbents has decided to start the 2016 campaign now by minimizing Christie, and hope that the GOP might instead find a candidate like McCain or Romney, who would not make waves and would play nice.

Richard Viall


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  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:12 am on Tue, Feb 18, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Example? How many would you like Mr. Tillett? The mainstream media lies to you EVERY DAY!

    For example, Susan Rice. She made several appearances on Sunday morning news talk programs and LIED. She said, "Protests were in reaction to a video that had spread to the region."

    As it turns out, testimony provided to a House panel May 8, nearly eight months after the attack, proved the video narrative was a LIE.

    Did you believe Ann Coulter when she said,
    "Radiation is good for you"[rolleyes]

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 8:38 am on Thu, Feb 13, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557

    Does Obama's culpability in any of his "scandals" diminish the FACTS or have any bearing on Christie's innocence or guilt? Can you say red herring?

  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:20 pm on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Yet you conveniently choose to dismiss Obama's involvment in any of the scandals that plague the Democratic camp. Go figure. Hypocrosit at its finest.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:56 pm on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604


  • Mike Adams posted at 10:15 am on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1561

    Unfortunately for the GOP, Bill Clinton's daliances, the Benghazi terrorist attack, and Christie's traffic jam plan appear to be the main planks of it's platform in another failed run for the presidency.

    And let me throw this in: "How about waiting for all the FACTS to come out before deciding guilt? Ooops, forgot that isn't what CONSERVATIVES do, sorry.".....tune in to Rush and Hannity and Fox and see if this is what they are doing.

  • Mike Adams posted at 10:03 am on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1561

    As per normal operating procedures, it is the GOP that is keeping this story alive, mostly citing non-existant "liberal" factions. Just like they managed to get Trent Lott ultimatly removed from his comfy post in the senate, blaming the uproar on the democrats who basically said nothing after the first 3 or 4 days.

    This story should be the concern of those people in New Jersey. If they feel impeachment is necessary, then they should proceed, but be clear: citizens from California, Texas, West Virginia, and the other 46 states have no say in what ever action may occur as a result.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:55 am on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557

    From 1/9 (long time ago politically): "At this point, the only thing that has really been proven is that Fort Lee was targeted for a traffic jam and that both Christie's staff and his appointees at the Port Authority were involved. All of this became clear Wednesday when communications between Christie's staff and the Port Authority officials were released."
    No, as I've said multiple times before, it has not been proven (yet) that he is guilty of anything. BUT, some FACTS have already to come to light that is pretty damning. We KNOW that his admin targeted Fort Lee, we don;t know why (yet) or if he was intimately involved (take note that Christie is a renowned micro-manager and Bill Stepien was known to speak directly for Christie), but there have already been discrepancies in what he said then, and then on 1/10, and more currently. This has been enough to cloud his political ambitions, because politics is perception, and this looks bad. It could get worse it is proven that he knew, because it could mean jail time for him (in addition to his staff).

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:41 am on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557

    "It seems way to convenient to claim everything you don't agree with to be lies."
    Eric, that's what's called Hogwash...

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:40 am on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557


  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:43 am on Wed, Feb 12, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Funny I read and watch news from many sources left, right and foreign and I come up with a completely different perceptive on current events and how history shaped them.
    I still don't understand how you can tell a reliable news source from an unreliable one. It appears your opinion is how things are judged and if you already have a preformed opinion it's kind of pointless to seek knowledge. How is it your sources are not telling you what they are told to tell you? Have you every seen a news story that you disagreed with but knew was correct?

  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:56 pm on Tue, Feb 11, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Eric, try reading everything you can, liberal AND conservative media. I read news from around the world and find lots of things that impact Americans that the liberal controlled media refuse to run. You can't sit in your house watching MSNBC, CNN or any of most of the other alphabet channels and get a complete picture of what is actually occurinig. They tell you what they are told to tell you.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:51 pm on Tue, Feb 11, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    How about waiting for all the FACTS to come out before deciding guilt? Ooops, forgot that isn't what liberals do, sorry.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 12:28 pm on Tue, Feb 11, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Joe isn't biased of you to claim that the media is "covering up and not reporting what they don't want Americans to know" What do you base this on Just two minutes after posting this you call out John for making statements without substantiation can you substantiate your claims.
    It seems way to convenient to claim everything you don't agree with to be lies. Hasn't there been any news reporting by anyone that you agreed with and if so how could you tell the difference between those media outlets and the ones that are lying and covering up. Can you tell when someone is telling the truth by whether or not they agree with you.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:11 pm on Tue, Feb 11, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557


  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:07 am on Tue, Feb 11, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Lucas, care to elaborate or is your statement proof enough?

  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:05 am on Tue, Feb 11, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Mr.Barrow posted "I didn't mean to imply we should discredit by slander. Yes we just expose the action and the discrediting will fall into place."
    Mr. Barrow, I totally agree and that would work IF the media would report unbiased and FACT BASED TRUTH instead of covering up and not reporting what they don’t want Americans to know Unfortunately, that is not the case. American voters have to play detective to get to the real truth of most political matters and most are just too lazy or don’t care, or both.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:57 am on Tue, Feb 11, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    The Democratic propaganda machine is in full swing in an attempt to discredit any and all Republican contenders for the 2014 election as well as the 2016 election. Kind of like telling a street cop not to pay any attention to the thugs at the end of the street selling dope and killing people, instead turn your attention to the homeless man stealing an apple from the store because it is a bigger crime. FACTS? Liberals “don’t need no stinkin’ facts”. The low information and “gimme my freebies” voters swallow this kind of phony drama hook, line and sinker. Liberals are so gullible.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:24 pm on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Desperate Republican "potential" candidate, Rand Paul, has already started running anti-Hillary ads.

    He has decided that the best "end-run" is to talk about Bill Clinton's sexual escapades. I'm sure that anyone who was alive in the 1990's is well aware of Bill's transgressions, but Rand is hoping to capitalize on the younger generation who may not have that knowledge.

    The question remains - Do those in the younger generations care what Bill did? And if they do, should Hillary be punished for it.

    The Clinton administration, despite the best efforts of hypocritical Republicans like Newt Gingrinch ( who was dipping his own pen in someone else's ink at the time) had almost a full decade to economic success.

    Unfortunately, Clinton was followed by the impotence of George Walker Bush who ran this country into the ground, lied to the American public about Iraq, engaged the country in two unnecessary wars, and then ran underground when his time was up, hoping that silly right-wingers would blame his whole debacle on Obama. And the hypocrites did as was expected.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:06 am on Fri, Feb 7, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    I didn't mean to imply we should discredit by slander. Yes we just expose the action and the discrediting will fall into place.

  • John Lucas posted at 2:10 pm on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I think Christie does a very good job of discrediting himself.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:49 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557

    I do not think this is about "discredit[ing]" a candidate. It's about investigating corruption and malfeasance. Christie, and his staff, should not be worried about losing an election, they should be worried about going to jail. Now the politics of the matter suggest the former may be a fait accompli, and the facts of the case will have to proven to determine the latter.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:44 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557

    "Clinton’s term as Secretary of State would be put under a microscope, and she would be challenged to defend her lack of accomplishments and her absence when under fire."

    So, you're saying that an attempt to run a "'discredit' program" would be employed by Republicans? Say it isn't so.

    Hypocrisy much?

  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:58 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Richard I don't often agree with you but in this instance I think you're right. One exception I think Christie has brought this on himself but if anyone thinks the left is not going to take advantage and discredit the one candidate that polled well against Hillary, they would be mistaken.
    I do find it interesting that those same politicians and their supports who are willing to be judge and jury when it comes to Obama are stating that we should let the facts come out and that Chris is innocent until proven guilty, such hypocrisy.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:18 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Just a few corrections for Mr. Viall.

    Not "tunnelgate." It's "bridgegate," as the George Washington Bridge is a BRIDGE, not a tunnel.

    No one has criticized Chris Christie for being "overweight" or "sexist." With his gastric bypass, he is on track to have a pretty svelte figure by 2016.

    As far as some left-wing conspiracy to discredit the governor - it pretty much looks like no one had to make one up. The problem was created by, if not Christie himself, his own staff (maybe they are all "secret" liberals disguising themselves as Republican operatives in order to doom Christie's future political ambitions).

    Time will tell if Christie was involved or not. It is already settled that, despite Christie's denials that he has had any friendship or contact with him, he did appoint David Wildstein to the Port Authority in a job that was created just for him with a fat $150K salary. Funny, now that Wildstein has resigned, this non-existent job is being "eliminated."

    The bigger question is whether Christie used his position as governor to give Superstorm Sandy money to his favored cities and projects and to WITHHOLD funds from cities that did not endorse his re-election.

    Isn't it funny that a simple burglary in a Washington, DC office building, a seemingly "victimless" crime, led to the downfall of a sitting US president? Without "tunnelgate," as Mr. Viall calls it, most likely certain mayors would not now be coming forward with much more SERIOUS allegations of manipulating FEDERAL FUNDS for political gain.

    As they say, "Where there's smoke, there's fire." And too bad for Christie, whether or not he was involved with the lane closures on the GWB, that his OR his staff's petty political vendettas may be his downfall.

    Actually, I kinda liked the guy, bullying and all - I may even have anticipated voting for him if he became the Republican candidate. Now, Holysmoke! - we'll most likely be saddled with Mike Huckabee, whom Mr. Viall could also refer to as "overweight and sexist."

    And good thing that we got a pretty good heads-up that Christie's policies, as a president, would be guided by pettiness and political back-biting.


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