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Posted: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:00 am

The Affordable Care Act could better be called the “Unavailable Health Care Act” if things don’t soon change. Not only has the roll-out been a total embarrassment, the coverage and reported fee schedules do little to resemble the promises that were made.

It has been reported that in the state of Florida, several thousand families have had their insurance canceled by their carriers due to such stringent federal regulations that they are simply unable to comply. Now there is one way to best the competition. Surely more will decide it is fruitless to attempt to keep up.

Keeping “Obamacare” afloat is, in my opinion, critical in the “progressives’” long-range strong government takeover program. Set the bar so high that the only alternative is a single-payer system. No more competition from the private sector. Should you have a problem, you only have a bureaucrat at the IRS to deal with.

Once this plan is fully implemented, it then becomes only time until still another sector of our economy is taken under the federal wing. My thoughts would gravitate to the obviously evil oil companies, then the greedy banks, the profit-driven restaurants, and even down to the once part of the establishment — the unions

Nancy Pelosi was quite right in saying “pass the legislation so we can see what’s in it.” We did, but we are still wondering what we have found. Seems like daily a bit more comes to light.

One final thought: What’s with the big rush with the roll-out when it was known it was not functional? Might it come from that old fisherman saying, “When you hook the fish, pull him out fast ‘fore he figures he’s been caught”?

Richard Viall

Woodbridge

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27 comments:

  • JAY REESE posted at 5:28 pm on Sun, Nov 10, 2013.

    Jay Reese Posts: 5

    No! I'm actually OK with my Satire! I take extreme umbrage when people make remarks like you did about gov't paying for things! We are the government! We fund the government! And somewhere along the way the American people lost control of the government! This is not the United Socialist States of America! This is a republic, not to be confused with a democracy and we have lost sight of what made us great! Argue as you will, a free capitalist society has made us the most giving and inventive society in the history of human life!
    We now have a socialist president who wants to make decisions for us because we as a population are too stupid to make decisions for ourselves and i am inclined to believe he is right when i read your post's. I make a good living for my family and 10 other families, i don't drive fancy cars, i don't wear fancy clothes, i don't hang on a corner slinging dope and i don't have fancy jewelry. I pay my taxes, i buy healthcare, i pay my bills and i don't expect something for nothing! Oh, and another thing, i don't sit on LNS blogs all day posting 3000 times about my viewpoints! I have things to do!
    And i don't vote with my feet! I vote with my mind and my free spirit! I thank God every day that there are many more just like me who don't have time to read the cesspool of ideas that you purge on the internet and paper..............they are too busy paying for the socialist reforms your ilk scream and holler for!
    Hows that for Satire?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:17 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I think it's best to leave the satire up to Dr. Hansen, Mr. Reese.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:14 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Really, Andrew? You know, just like video, these comments are here for anyone to view so it is difficult for you to deny what you said.

    You DID name Sesame Street (you verified that above) and InfoWars.

    Why do you have to lie and then pretend others are making stuff up about you?

     
  • JAY REESE posted at 10:05 pm on Fri, Nov 8, 2013.

    Jay Reese Posts: 5

    Oh Snap! The government is now footing the bill for the infrastructure orf this great country? that is awesome news as i was getting a little leery of where my tax dollars were going. Its nice to know that the hard working government of California and for that matter the United States has rolled up its sleeves, put on its work boots and is readily getting their collective hands dirty to take care of the American People. What will i ever do now with all those tax dollars i don't have to pay! I'm thinking about making a charitable donation to maybe some third world country now that our government is paying for everything! what a blessed day this is!

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:00 am on Fri, Nov 8, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    "named both of these sources himself" Good grief. I did no such thing.[sleeping]

    I provided a link to a video of Sesame Street’s Bert sing about the Obamacare enrollees.

    6 [sleeping]

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 1:11 pm on Tue, Nov 5, 2013.

    Christina Welch Posts: 405

    I totally agree with the Infowars comment, but other reputable news sites are reporting the same:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/31/in-first-month-the-vast-majority-of-obamacare-sign-ups-are-in-medicaid/

    According to the Washington Post, about 81% of ACA sign-ups in Kentucky are for Medicaid.

    While I am not willing to call the ACA a failure just yet, there are some legitimate concerns being raised right now. We will have to wait and see how this all plays out.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:17 am on Tue, Nov 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    This is the information you get from those who "vote with their feet."

    Obamacare was modeled on the format proposed by the Heritage Foundation, a right wing think tank. And RomneyCare in MA.

    And both the HF and Romney were "for it" before they were "against it."

    Go figure!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:13 am on Tue, Nov 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Wait, wait....Mr. Taves, you just told us we're NOT bees, then you said we were "lost" bees and demanded we get back to work and make some honey.

    Which is it? And just how did you "get it right" for us'all?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:09 am on Tue, Nov 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Imagine the outcry if the City of Lodi employed a road crew of several hundred people. Heck, most Lodians don't appreciate having to pay for the city employees we DO have.

    Of course they outsource the work. Who pays for it though?

    Government...oh, snap...forgot about that part, eh, Mr. Nelson?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:03 am on Tue, Nov 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Local News:

    "Girl to Get Heart Surgery After Insurance Denial"

    "A California couple is celebrating today after winning a battle over insurance coverage for their toddler's heart surgery.

    Briggette and Johan Schilling's 14-month-old daughter, Aria, was born with a hole in her heart and a deformed valve. The girl was scheduled to have open-heart surgery Oct. 11 at Children's Hospital and Research Center Oakland. But Western Health Advantage, the family's insurance provider, denied coverage for the surgery since the hospital and cardiologist were out of network."

    Western Health Advantage - a company based in Sacramento run by a very, very nice man with whom I used to work at another healthcare company.

    His previous history at that company - denied coverage for a heart/lung transplant for a newborn baby - right here in Lodi - too expensive.

    After a public outcry - the procedure was approved - but only because it was apparent that no heart and lungs could possibly be available before the baby died anyway. Good press and no monetary outlay.

    And Sarah Palin talks about "Death Panels!" Just like all HMO's - death panels have been a reality since the invention of the HMO.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:54 am on Tue, Nov 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Headline: Individuals have coverage cancelled. Mr. Scott read it. It must be true.

    Did you read the details, though, Mr. Scott? The coverage these people had was affordable, cheap even.

    What did it cover? Not much unless the policy holder and his/her family had a building fall on them.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:51 am on Tue, Nov 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    " 2/3 of all sign-ups in Kentucky are for Medicaid.""

    When one relies on Sesame Street and "Infowars" for their sources for information, it is not surprising that this is what they come up with.

    Please refer to this person's actual comment - this is not a personal attack, since he named both of these sources himself.

    Inforwars? Really - seems just as credible as the TEA Party lady who quoted "The Onion" as her source of REAL NEWS.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:46 pm on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    [smile]

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 8:45 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    From an article in 2009 ...this is just one of the many many Republican alternatives that was suggested, and in keeping true to their inability to "negotiate" all of these plans were totally ignored by the 3 stooges- Obama, Reid and Pelosi.

    The Patients’ Choice Act, for example, introduced in May by Republican Senators Tom Coburn and Richard Burr, provides a far more fiscally sound alternative by encouraging a more competitive market for health insurance. The bill would shift the healthcare tax benefit from corporations to individuals, so that consumers are no longer restricted to those insurance options that their employers happen to offer, and so that consumers are not uninsured when they are in between jobs. Another reform that merits consideration (but is not in the Patients’ Choice Act) is the elimination of federal regulations that prohibit the purchase of out-of-state insurance, so that consumers will have a larger variety of healthcare options available to them.
    What about the subset of the population that is not able to afford health insurance? For them, the Patients’ Choice Act would provide healthcare vouchers that would be used to purchase private insurance. The result would be near-universal health insurance, achieved far less disruptively and more cost-effectively than under the new federal health insurance program proposed in the Senate committee’s bill — a 600-page bill so complicated and convoluted that its implementation would no doubt require the establishment of entirely new offices within the Department of Health and Human Services.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 6:15 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    lets see, Medicare comes in at 5% of the money going for administration while private insurance companies come in at 20%. As usual tea partier gets it wrong.

     
  • Charles Nelson posted at 10:50 pm on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    Charles Nelson Posts: 259

    No, I don't live in Lodi. I get my power from a private corporation. Pay attention next time you drive past a road crew. Teichert, Granite, Stevens, CC Meyers. etc are not government. The government hires them for the job because they can do it more efficiently. Everywhere the private sector is allowed to compete, they do a better job for less money.

     
  • Jackson Scott posted at 12:18 pm on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    Jackson Scott Posts: 386

    You're right Joanne, the GOP'rs didnt want to pass the ACA because they did not have a chance to read the 1000 upon 1000's of pages. Good Ol' Reid and the Wicked Witch of the West Pelosi just pushed it through. What was Nancy's comment? Something about (paraphrasing) "Of course we have to pass it so we know what's in it." JFC, typical liberal.

    You obviously read alot of news JB, haven't you seen the MANY MANY families talking about how their old coverage was canceled, so Obama broke his promise. Recent developments indicate that the WH knew this would happen. And pricing? C'mon, less coverage for more money? Higher deductibles & less benefits with higher premiums sounds like a Lose-Lose-Lose situation for the American Public .

    Now Obama is backtracking, running scared in an attempt to "restore" his so-called legacy. Go back and look at all of his promises in his first election, how many has he completed? Worst POTUS since Carter.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:49 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Gee, I don't know how anyone could have survived prior to 1913... palm/face [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:44 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Kentucky?

     2/3 of all sign-ups in Kentucky are for Medicaid. [sleeping]

    States that took Medicaid can auto-enroll! [sleeping]

    Did you hear Sesame Street’s Bert sing about the Obamacare enrollees Ms. Bobin?
    http://www.infowars.com/sesames-streets-bert-sings-about-obamacare-
    enrollees/

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:09 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Gee, I don't know?

    Do you live in Lodi and have electric/water/sewer service to your home everyday?

    Can you ride down the streets without your automobile falling into a huge pothole? Ditto for federal and state highways.

    Can you have your Social Security check deposited into your checking account on a timely basis each month?

    Can you file your taxes online? Does your tax refund (if you are entitled to one) get deposited to your account within a few days if you file online?

    Oh - I guess you are correct. Government involvement does stink!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:04 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    States with their own exchanges are getting enrollments - Kentucky has reported 1000 per day are signing up.

    It is the other 36 states whose Republican governors have rejected the Medicaid expansion and declined to set up their own exchanges with their own website that are having to use the Federal website, which we all know has had major problems.

    The really stupid, but typical, response from Republicans in Congress is to assault the problems with the federal site and call for Sebelius's resignation when they didn't even want Obamacare in the first place. Always looking for someone in the Obama administration to hang from the tree in the town square.

    Typical hypocrites. They just CANNOT stop shooting themselves in the foot and making themselves look ridiculous.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:39 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Apparently denial offers comforts the Opologists find appealing.
    http://nation.time.com/2013/10/31/obamacare-early-enrollment-numbers-embarassingly-small/

     
  • Charles Nelson posted at 11:21 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    Charles Nelson Posts: 259

    When has getting the government involved in anything made it more "efficient"?

     
  • stan taves posted at 9:11 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 313

    Once again, I am compelled to get it right for y'all. One day, if human beings are to co- exist in extremely confined spaces, we will need to resemble that of the bee culture. Unfortunately, for the left, that day has yet to suggest itself in any credible way. We are still patriarchal, and will remain so for decades to come. Yes, we are wolves, not honey-bees, so simmer on down, quit buzzin' around, stop buggin' us all ...you're not ten feet tall ...just a little lost bee; now get back to work ...make some honey

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:13 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    More doomsday fear mongering.

    I really wonder if letter writers like Mr. Viall actually believe what they write or just do it to try to scare the less than knowledgeable who read this nonsense.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:29 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1537

    Our current health care system is inefficient, insufficient and costly. If we don't have Obamacare then what is the alternative?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:43 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1538

    "Keeping “Obamacare” afloat is, in my opinion, critical in the “progressives’” long-range strong government takeover program."

    I couldn't agree more Richard.

     

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