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Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:00 am

I'm very disappointed in the president. But shame on me, I was fooled.

After the election in 2008, I believed that Barack Obama would grow into the presidency, that he would begin to change some of his world views and come to realize that "fairness" doesn't begin and end with himself and his cronies.

Obama says that he has the nation's best interests at heart, but if that were true, we wouldn't still be wallowing in a state of misery some four-plus years later.

It reminds me of the salesman who has only one car on his lot — call it BHO Motors. The car is a pretty car and he lets you sit inside while he explains all of the bells and whistles. But when you ask to take it out for a test drive, he just smiles and says the keys are missing but he'll have a new set by Tuesday. "But hey!" he says, "let's take a spin in the simulator, it's the same thing."

"OK," you say, but once you see the simulator you realize that it isn't anything like what was promised. "Hey mister," you say, "that thing looks like the spinning donkey on the Tilt-o-Whirl."

"No, no," the salesman replies, "it's everything I just promised and more. All you need is to get in and spin."

At that point half of us would make a beeline for the exit — but there's the other half. That's where we are as a nation today; half of us recognize that it's a spinning donkey and the other half is trusting a salesman who won't have the keys until Tuesday.

Anyway, some of us will always buy in, but when Tuesday comes, there are no keys, no car and the money is all gone — gone golfing in Florida maybe? There is one left behind, however: A sign with a smiling salesman that says, "The Republicans stole your car. Come back Tuesday. Free rides for everyone."

Yeah? Well, he who takes a whirl on the spinning donkey will find his lunch in his lap before he ever gets the keys to his new ride. Believe it!

Stan Taves

Lodi

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61 comments:

  • stan taves posted at 8:39 pm on Sat, Mar 16, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    I manage peoples wealth; and if you had any sense you'd be more friendly, Jo -- you know I love you.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:42 pm on Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    [smile]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:21 pm on Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    Mr. Taves appears to have a much firmer grasp on reality than yourself. Why does it matter what he does? Are you incapable of debating an issue without going ad hominem?

    What do you think about President Pinnocchio's administration labeling Mr. Lucas a "domestic terrorist" Ms. collateraldamage?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:44 pm on Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    "stupidity does not sell" this certainly explains the last election.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:04 pm on Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4306

    "As for work? do you even know what I do? Of course not, because if you did then you'd be begging for my advice."

    Why don't you tell us what you "do," Mr. Taves? Then maybe you might have some credibility here instead of just arrogant braggadocio and bullying.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:19 am on Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    I repeat what I said earlier about your writing:

    I am amused at Mr Taves latest work of art. There is no one who can use more words and say nothing. His pontificating style always brings a smile to my face. He is truly an artist.

     
  • stan taves posted at 6:15 pm on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    John, you know that I like you; you are a good man. !st, people with money don't have any confidence in the insanity coming from the left; demand has nothing to do with it -- unless the "demand" is to get the crazies out of power. In other words, stupidity does not sell; so as long stupidity tries to "dictate" the appropriate direction then real power will opt out. Obama thinks that he can change the dynamic by taking congress in 2014. Here is what you need to understand John: It ain't going to happen as long as free people have a say in the matter. This is the battle between freedom, and the crazies who think Obama can just take it. All I know is that it is a good thing we can fight the crazies now instead of later. Trust me John, lose the crazies now; you'll thank me later..

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:42 am on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    "As for work? do you even know what I do? Of course not, because if you did then you'd be begging for my advice."

    A Pat Maple moment

    As to your economic analysis. It is pure bunk. Right now there are trillions of dollars sitting on the sidelines because of the lack of demand. Interest rates are at record lows. Borrowing money will never be cheaper. We should borrow the money to build a smart electrical grid and do the much needed infrastructure repair. This will put people to work and the smart grid will lead to much private sector innovation. Spare me your nonsense that we cannot afford it. We cannot afford not to do it. Lets compare this to a family budget. If a family makes $100,000 a year and borrows $300,000 to buy a house is that a bad economic idea? Of course not.

    As to following your economic ideas and advice. Only if we do not want a middle class and I do not care what work you do.

     
  • stan taves posted at 9:55 am on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    After 9/11 the economy began to tank. Greenspan then lowered interest rates, and the housing bubble began to grow. If your point was that Bush directed Greenspan to lower interest rates in order to stimulate growth, then OK. The point that I made is that there would have never been a housing bubble collapse and financial crisis without the advancement of the CRA -- Clinton's doing, remember. Since Obama took over you would like to believe that his policies have advanced our economic situation. You sight your 401k, home values, and unemployment; some marginal improvement since the crisis, but at what cost? $6.5 trillion since we're counting. Consumer confidence? don't be ridiculous. Have you seen the retail numbers for Feb? Keynes believed that fiscal and monetary policy could be coupled to stimulate growth; and it does, but here's what you're missing: The more you go back to the well the less stimulation you feel. It's like the guy who has been hitting the crack pipe; the 1st hit gets him very high, but by the time he takes the last hit there is no crack, no money and no rush. Now, you think that we can just get more money, more rock, feel all better again; that's crazy, Eric. You toss around a couple of stats, but any one can work the numbers to suit their addictions. The fact is that the workforce has shrunk, not expanded as "your" numbers suggest. Most analysts believe that it will be ten years before home prices recover. And if you have worthless treasuries in your portfolio then you are very sad indeed. As for work? do you even know what I do? Of course not, because if you did then you'd be begging for my advice. Here's some free advice for you: Try gnawing on something you can actually handle; a puff-ball maybe?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:24 am on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    Stan has presented facts. The "incoherent arguments" are being made by Mr. Lucas and yourself.
    [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:08 am on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    [smile]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:08 am on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    Typical, when conservatives are faced with facts that don't agree with their world view they start throwing around incoherent arguments. I’ll just go back to my previous argument the majority of the blame for the recession must go to those running the zoo when it happened and those in power the previous decade. Carter was President 30 years before the recession started. I think those in power the decade leading up to the recession have more responsibility than Jimmy. The fact that Paulson served Obama has nothing to do with Leman Bros, who went bankrupt before Obama took office. When conservative policies go bad they are just good intentions gone awry or relatively harmless acts somehow morphing out of control but they didn't morph out of control under Jimmy or Bill they morphed out of control under 8 years of Bush and a decade of a conservative controlled congress. It happened we all watched it happen. Now in spite of the conservatives currently serving we are seeing our economy come back and you and the other conservatives on this forum are desperately hoping it doesn’t. So you guys run around screaming about the sky falling as our 401ks and homes increase in value, unemployment drops, consumer confidence increases. Maybe you should just cut your losses, take a lesson from John Keynes, kick Ayn Rand to the curb, stop worrying about people who are different than you and get back to work.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 9:28 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 499

    And a war in the wrong country, at that?

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 9:27 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 499

    Treatment, Maybe?

     
  • stan taves posted at 6:06 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    Sorry Eric, but I wouldn't have you believe anything. But just so you know: the community reivestment act, which began with Carter and the 95th Congress, was made more loose by your buddy Clinton. You're a brite boy so you ought to be able to understand how a relatively harmless act morphed into the beast that would be the genisis of credit default swaps. The fact is that once the big banks realized how stupid the thing was, they bundled the garbage and sent it out the door. Unfortunately for Lehman Bros Henry Paulson, Bush's, and Obama's, treasury sec, had a grudge to settle; so Lehman paid the price while everyone else got bailed out by TARP. Like I suggested to John, do your homework before you start spouting-off.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:19 am on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    The one thing the Republicans are expert at is marketing. That because they will say anything to sell a product. Their ability to take responsibility for their actions lies at the other end of the scale

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:05 am on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    Stan, Bush II implemented his Home of Your Own initiative in 2002 and controlled both houses for the next four years.

    After the repubs controlled Congress for the previous decade and the White House for the previous 6 years you would have us believe and have convinced yourself that the cause of the Great Recession, which started in Dec. 2007, lies with the 110th Congress who took control of Congress in Jan 2007. That with control of the white house, 49 votes in the Senate and a 53% majority in the House the Dems forced the housing crisis on this country that in large part was responsible for the Recession. That’s the story you’re sticking with?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:11 am on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    I see your point. Clinton Dodd and Frank did the damage.. The Republicans knew about it but were helpless to do anything about in spit of having total control of the Government from 2000 to 2004, the Presidency and Senate till 2006 and the Presidency till 2008. Like all Republicans your logic and critical thinking skills need some work. It is the logic of people like you that want to make pull my hair out.

     
  • stan taves posted at 4:37 am on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    You might have a point, John, if the collapse had occurred between '00 and '04; but that wasn't the case now was it? Besides that minor point, it was Clinton -- along with his boys, Dodd and Frank -- who pressured the banks into giving loans to unqualified borrowers. Like before; do your homework, John.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:40 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    U6 isn't a rock band from Ireland.[sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:38 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    8.3% [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:32 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    READ: http://www.infowars.com/dr-quigley%E2%80%99s-tragedy-and-hope-reveals-a-call-by-cecil-rhodes-for-an-%E2%80%9Camerican-union%E2%80%9D/

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:31 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    READ: http://www.infowars.com/clinton-quigley-and-the-new-world-order/

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:16 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    Obama's FBI and DHS consider veterans to be "terrorists" Mr. Lucas.
    [sleeping]

    President Pinnocchio's FBI has gone out of its way to characterize returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as a "major domestic terrorist threat."
    [sleeping]
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992665198727459.html

    Additionally, Janet Napolitano said she stood by an April 2009 DHS intelligence assessment that listed returning vets as "likely domestic terrorists."
    [sleeping]
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:45 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    I doubt if George Bush even understood what a sub-prime mortgage was. Do you people listen to yourselves? The Republicans had all the power from 2000 to 2004. Just how did minority member Barney Frank tell the majority of the house to do his bidding? This is just another example of Republicans not taking responsibility for their actions or inaction.

     
  • stan taves posted at 10:03 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    I guess you would like to re-write history like the rest of your brethren, John. -- Do your homework before even think about coming in this direction. Am I on Drugs? Really, John? I am the drug, and clearly I've made you way too high. Seriously though, Bush understood the danger that sub-prime presented; it was Chris Dodd and Barney Frank who put the kibosh on sub-prime reform. I thought you knew that...

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:35 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Are you on drugs? They controlled the Presidency, the Senate and the House from 2000 to 2004. What part of having all the power do you not understand?

     
  • stan taves posted at 9:16 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    Don't go there, John. Bush tried to tell the libs that sub-prime would not end well. The libs said so what ____, in your face Bushy. Now, years later, you guys are still clinging to the notion that Bush made it all bad, while you guy Obama gets a pass for escalating the insanity. I have to laugh because me and my friends could read the writing on the wall, while your people were doing math with Roman Numerals.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:12 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    The first four years of the Bush administration the Republicans had control of both the House and the Senate. They lost the Senate in 2004 and the house in 2006. With Iraq, the tax cuts and the medicare prescription screw ups coupled with doing nothing about the housing bubble the crash of 2008 was inevitable. By 2005 the housing bubble was too far gone. This was typical Republican ineptness at basic governing.

    That is only part of the reason I have such disrespect for those who supported and voted for George Bush. I spent 19 months in Vietnam. I have no problem with those who went to Canada. I have respect for those who would go to jail rather than serve in that war. I have respect for my fellow Veterans who served there. George Bush used political pull to get out of serving in that war while being a vigorous supporter of that war. That is a contemptible act. By supporting and voting for George Bush a person is saying that is an OK action. Anyone who thinks that does not have a clue about morality and real love of country.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 6:16 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 352

    Mr. Lucas: When George Bush was President, the house and Senate were controlled by the Demo`s. It`s like a champion fighter fighting with one hand tied behind him. As far as Barney Frank is concerned when he stated that We are not perfect, but the Republicans are Nuts, and of all people Barney and his partner would know about nuts. Barry has to know by now that you cannot spend your way out of a resession, but another trillion or so, we might find out. He`s got 3 years and some change to try.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 4:49 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    Kevin hit the nail on the head in his8:28 post regarding continued and increased spending and not saving during prosperous times and Eric had some common sense ideas in his10:20 post. Bush dug the financial hole we are in and Obama fell into it. i believe that Obama is going to be seen as the scapegoat for the democratic party. Another saying which could apply to Obama's fiasco is this: " If you fall into a hole that is over your head or if you are sinking in quicksand, stop and think; don't try to dig your way out."

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:38 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    You seem to forget Mr Walters that your hero George bush's last deficit was 1.4 trillion and left an economy in shambles (typical Republican governance). If it was not for the Republicans in the House and the Senate we could do a lot better. It is hard to figure out whether the Republicans hate America or what. Barney Frank said it best. We are not perfect but the Republicans are nuts. Hammer hit nail. [smile]

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 4:04 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1880

    Thank you Mr. Walters. Start and finish was here in Lodi. In training for a 80 mile ride (Tour De Cure American Diabeties ride) coming up way too soon.

    Cycling is my relaxation. Diabeties is my cause. Runs in my family.

     
  • Josh Morgan posted at 4:01 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 529

    Not to change the subject, but where in the world is Darrell B.? I haven't seen him on this board for weeks.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 3:42 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 352

    Mr. Maurer: Seems I got my University`s mixed up. Sorry about that.

    Mr. Lucas: You seem to have forgotten the defict Obama has brought upon this country. 16 trill and rising. Now he has N. Korea to worry about .

    Mr. Paglia: Cograds on finishing a 47 mile bike ride. Where was the start and finish.

    Mr. Barrow: As far as Hilary is concerned, you are correct and rumor has it that she will run for the nations top office in `16. If so, lets see what a woman can do. Getting elected just might be in the bag since all Demo`s and woman will vote for her. Still some questions concerning the attack on Benghazi that are not quite clear.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 3:40 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    Bill Clinton also attended the Yale School of Law, where I assume he earned his law degree.The website did not specify. You are probably right regarding the Rhodes Scholarship, but was also not mentioned on the website. I just brought it up,since Ed mentioned the University of Rhodes, which I could find no evidence of BC ever attending and Joanne questioning this also.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 3:03 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    To elaborate a little further regarding Mr.Chapman's prior statement:"Clinton NEVER paid down the deficit and NEVER left a surplus; Clinton only refinanced the deficit like one would refinance one's home. Smaller payments over a longer period of time: Interest increases debt, the longer the time, the more expensive the final cost when the loan is paid off.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:56 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    Hey you skipped Clinton deficit to GDP = 0.5%

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:46 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    I think what you meant was he attended the University of Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship Clinton graduated from the University of Georgetown. As far as Hilary sticking with Bill "since staying with him would further her career, evidently her plan worked." That’s an understatement have you seen her popularity rating 67% among all Americans and obviously higher among dems and women. Can you imagine Bill as the first gentleman roaming around the White House.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 2:44 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    According to the Bill Clinton website, under biography, it states that BC went to Georgetown University and the University of Oxford and received his law degree. Maybe he attended on a Rhodes Scholarship?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:29 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4306

    The most "entertaining" aspect of this letter is that its author actually thinks it IS entertaining and that he "crafted" it to boot.

    "Crafting" something necessitates craftsmanship. Falls far from the mark, not to mention the convoluted car salesman analogy that actually goes nowhere that makes sense.

    Nice try, though, Stan. Keep up the "craftsmanship!"

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:25 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4306

    "Learn something?" That Bill Clinton attended "The University of Rhodes?"

    Where is that?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:05 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    The point is that Clinton raised taxes( without a Republican vote) and did not triple the deficit like Reagan did or double it like Bush Jr did. He made an effort to do the right thing and a good job. Republicans should not be allowed to run a dog kennel.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 1:26 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 352

    John Lucas, perhaps you have or should read what Robert Chapman said concerning Bill Clinton and George Bush, you might learn something, perhaps alot. An update on William Jefferson Clinton. As stated William Jefferson was selected to study at the University of Rhodes, however he didn`t graduated. During his Presidency the United States was at peace and feeling there was no need for the military to stay at full strength, the military was cut. With the county at peace and Silicon Valley making more money than the US coffers could spend , yes it was a good time to be President all though being President had its downfalls as in the impeachment of William Jefferson due to at least three sexual encounters with Monica Lewinsky. It is still not know if Broom Hilida hated him or forgave him, since staying with him would further her career, evidently her plan worked. He was caught in a lie and after six months addmitted he did have a sexual incounter with that woman. First and formost, he never inhaled.
    If you call spending trillions of dollars more than you have, Obama is your man.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:44 pm on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1880

    I firmly believe the best and most effective way the federal government can help the economy is to aggressively promote the destrution of personal debt.

    I keep hearing how the "wealth" of the upper class has grown while the middle class' wealth has shrank. I think there needs to be some clarification as to what "wealth" is. Those who tend to make it into the "uper class" also know that wealth is built by NOT having debt. Unfortunately the middle and lower classes keep build debt to look like they are dooing good. In order to build middle class wealth, the household debt needs to be addressed. Hence my statement, an aggressive campaign by the federal government to help everyone to understand how to destroy their debt is the best way to build the economy and Middle/lower class wealth levels.

    (sorry for any letter jumbles. Just finished a 47 mile bike ride and fingers are a litte shaky.)

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 11:48 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Bush 1 deficit to GDP = 4.1%, Bush 2 deficit to GDP = 3.2%.
    OBAMA deficit to GDP = 8.3%.
    Yeah, that's a lot better.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 11:43 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Clinton paid down the deficit? To quote Larry the Cable Guy, "I don't care who you are, that's funny stuff right there". Clinton NEVER paid down the deficit and NEVER left a surplus.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 11:12 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    Just googled keywords,unemployment rate, Forbes contributor Louis Woodhill wrote an article in which April 2000 had an employment rate of 59.6%. Is that where this number came from? I only wrote exactly what the newscasters said, right or wrong. If 63% of the population is employed, then 37% must be unemployed, since 100-63=37. Check the pages associated with unemployment rate and the numbers I gave in my last post, are not so optimistic.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:26 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    Could you be a little more clear it sounds like you a claiming an unemployment rate of 59%

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:20 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    Or we could see an expansion of the tax base through job creation. Yes this would also benefit those capable of wealth management but inequities can be tempered through the closing of loopholes, raising rates on capital gains, changes to entitlements or many other tax restructuring devices.

     
  • stan taves posted at 9:08 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Stan Taves Posts: 302

    Thanks, John. I have 3 criteria when crafting a letter. My 1st objective is to entertain, from there I try to be provocative, and finally I make a minimal effort to inform. Andrew and Kevin are right on with their comments as usual. I would only add for Eric's sake that servicing a ballooning debt with have considerable impact that will either usher in great sacrifice for the least prepared, or usher in more debt creation that can only favor those who are most capable at wealth management. As usual; just trying to help.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 8:59 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 437

    According to Bryan Williams on World News, last month saw a gain of 236,000 jobs, with the most gains in construction,auto sales,the health care profession, and job growth in employers such as Lowes,Home Depot,etc. A drop from 7.9 to 7.7 in unemployment last 2 months. Another news report gave these figures also and questioned how many jobs in other fields were lost during this same time period,but no specific numbers were mentioned, nor how many people stopped looking for work and are off the unemployment list: only a report that 63% of the US population is gainfully employed, while 37% are unemployed.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:55 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    I agree Kevin the flip side to Keynesian economics is that debt must be paid down during good times this is something that is difficult for those on the right and the left and certainly something that didn’t happen pre-recession. We will see.

    I don't think there needs to be an evil rich big business but we have seen a shrinking of the middle class and an expansion of wealth amongst the richest in this country. You can call it class warfare or redistribution of wealth or whatever but something has to be done to rectify this situation. This country simple can't remain a world leader without a strong middle class.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:53 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    You mean like Clinton did by paying down the deficit or how Bush did by giving tax breaks to the wealthy, billions to the big pharma with medicare prescriptions, the Iraq war etc. Get real, Liberals are always better at governing. They live in the real world unlike our friends in the Republican party. Look at the history.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:36 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    Lucas math. [sleeping]

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 8:28 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1880

    If ya don't like the letters currently being published, write your own. I realize that sounds like a scold but it was meant to be an encouragement.

    Eric, as for the economic policies of the liberals: Some work, some don't (ok, most work and that is an aspect of the Liberal agenda I like). But their policies only work when there is the "evil rich business success" to TAKE that money away from. And that is an aspect I don't like.

    I do like hos suddenly the Conservative poilicies are the source of all our evils, but while times were good under the conservative control, NO ONE (very few) took the opportunity to prepar themselves for a downturn. I wonder if anyone will learn from the past and as the Liberals lead us into a strong economic time will they prepare for the down turn that comes from the Liberal policies? Probably not.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:27 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    It is what Hillary said about Obam's critics. " If he walked on water they would say he could not swim" [smile]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:25 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    During the month of February–as President Barack Obama was warning Americans they would see dramatic effects in their lives if “sequestration” of some planned federal spending kicked in–the federal government’s debt climbed by $253.5 billion.
    [sleeping]
    That one-month increase in the debt was nearly six times as much as the $44 billion in spending cuts the Congressional Budget Office estimates will take place in all of fiscal 2013 as a result of sequestration.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:23 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2689

    146 million Americans were employed back in 2007. But today, only 142.2 million Americans have a job even though our population has grown steadily since then. So where in the world is this “economic recovery” that they keep talking about?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:52 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1342

    All of the letters John refers to have the same theme but I don’t know where they get their info. We continue to see growth in the economy, unemployment continues to drop, we aren’t hearing the grumblings out of Europe, demand for new cars and new home construction is up, existing home sales are up and the inventory of homes for sale continues to shrink, consumer confidence is up. Washington is even showing signs of compromise that’s something we haven’t seen in four years I think Mr. Browda says a lot when he says Obama’s policies must fail otherwise we will have the same evidence that we had after Clinton’s two terms. The lefts economic policies work and it’s getting harder and harder for the right to deny that.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:32 am on Tue, Mar 12, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Five out of the last six letters on the Right Wing Roundup (other wise known as LSN letters to the editor) have Obama bashing diatribes. It does get a little old. I am amused at Mr Taves latest work of art. There is no one who can use more words and say nothing. His pontificating style always brings a smile to my face. He is truly an artist.

     

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