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Posted: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 12:07 pm, Fri Sep 14, 2012.

Forty years ago we had prayer in schools — not now. We had pledging allegiance to the flag — not now. We had the best schools in the world — not now.

We had a working nation, healthy employment — not now. We had a balanced budget — not now. We were in debt to no country — not now. We had a great economy — not now. We had welfare under control — not now. We had a president who loved this country — not now.

We had a president who did what he said he was going to do — not now. We had a president who lived by the Constitution — not now. We were not forced to buy health insurance (that not even our elected officials want) — not now. We had less than 10 percent of the people lose their homes — not now. And, we had our borders controlled — not now

If President Obama wins this election, everything God and our forefathers gave us will be lost. People are genuinely afraid. They are afraid that if Obama wins this election he will have another chance to ruin this country of ours.

We had President Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, no cash and no hope.

Sam West

Acampo

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65 comments:

  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:59 pm on Mon, Sep 10, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    didja forget the DEMONCRATS controlled congress during most of Bush's presidency?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:38 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Eric stated...There have been numerous biblical references and many calls for blessings during the DNC convention

    Yes, there have. One can imagine the long line to the rest room for Democrats to vomit after listening to such outrageous religious language they were forced to endure.( from their perspective).

    In stark contrast, the GOP convention had religious references but the audience appreciated it and actually comprehended its meaning and intent. It is why Democrats perceive the GOP convention to be so hateful...all though religious references are an insult to their intelligence. Imagine the Republicans saying God Bless America and actually meaning it. Hard for a democrat to comprehend.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:28 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Eric, can you post the exact wording of the constitution that states what you say it does. I cannot find it.

    Anyone who perceives that Ms Warren and Mr Clinton knocked it out of the park needs to be treated with patience and kindness as American reality in not in play here. The "park" Eric must be referring to is St .Petersburg Square in Russia. I can just hear Putin say, "that's my kind of speech.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:37 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    They don't want to eradicate them they just want to insure a seperation of church and state as called for in the Constitution of The United States. There bhave been numerous biblical refrences and many calls for blessings during the DNC convention. Glad to hear you are watching the convention did Elizebeth Warren and President Clinton knock it out of the park or what.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:28 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    WOW the LNS thinks J.D. magna c-u-m laude is profanity

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:27 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Darrell it’s good to hear you think so highly of Harvard, from Wiki.

    In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[39] and president of the journal in his second year.[33][40] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[41] After graduating with a J.D. magna c-u-m laude[42] from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago.[39]
    Also it is interesting that you neglected to finish the sentence in your post a person might think you were intentionally trying to mislead. By the way The Chicago Law School ranks 5th in the nation to Harvard 's 3rd so you are correct it is a lower ranked school.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:46 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Johnson stated...Prayer was not in school 40 yrs ago. How in the world could any reasonable person draw this conclusion? Why in the world would law suits reached the supreme court attempting to ban prayer in public schools if it werer not a normal activity objected to by secular people?

    On June 25, l962, 39 million students were forbidden to do what they and their predecessors had been doing since the founding of our nation – publicly calling upon the name of the Lord at the beginning of each school day.

    The New York school children which prompted the Engel vs. Vitale ruling had simply prayed: “Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence on Thee and beg Thy blessing over us, our parents, our teachers and our nation.”

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:35 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Benefiting? In what way? Since the pain still coming is not here until after 2014, most are clueless.

    Of course Obama"not"care had up front provisional benefits to deceive and fool people like Ms Johnson, but make no mistake, this expensive law with rationing of health care to seniors has many surprises to be uncovered.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:31 am on Thu, Sep 6, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Kinderman, I heard what you heard... I thought I was observing a prank .

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:24 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    It's interesting how a couple of planks in the Democrat platform were removed and then reinstalled - both having to do with matters of faith. Now as far as I could tell listening to the vote on Jerusalem’s status, unless the sound on my television is faulty, the Nays actually had it (after three votes). I was unable to hear the vote on reinserting "God" into the preamble, so I'd be interested to learn from others here who might have actually listened to that part of the convention as to whether or not it wasn't just pushed through like Jerusalem was.

    As a man of faith who believes deeply not only in the existence of God but the need to trust in Him as an integral part of our success, this kicking Him out at every turn is very disturbing. Since God and Jesus have always been in the hearts and souls of the black community even when they were in slavery, how in the world could they support any political party that wants to eradicate Them from the national discourse.

    It could be that this very issue might make the difference in President Barack Hussein Obama's re-election hopes in November. I sure hope so!!

     
  • Teresa Johnson posted at 9:15 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    lodigrl Posts: 5

    Oh and I forgot he didn't create the mess he came into this mess created by 8 yrs of President Bush. Not to mention the last time we had a surplus in both the USA and California the Democrats were in office. Health care have you really studied it? I have and yes we are benefiting from it. So yes we need a President, but for me OBAMA is just starting to get us on even footing and electing someone who is not for middle class america is not an option for me.

     
  • Teresa Johnson posted at 9:05 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    lodigrl Posts: 5

    I think you need to check your facts. Prayer was not in school 40 yrs ago. The pledge was taken out by the COURTS not the president. The last I checked he was not in charge of the COURTS. You really want to blame someone for the demise of America you and I along with every other American need to look in the mirror. We elected the politians that create this mess. NOT just the President, but all politians from Federal to Local. You want to blame OBAMA for everything, but you neglect to state that it takes the house and senate to pass the laws he gets the final say so. So if you think he is to blame for everything again look at the voting record for the republicans you are backing. Oh and schools let's see universities are raising tutions because they don't have enough money to run them, but then give the President's fo the univeristies raises. A person really needs 200+ thousand a year to survive when the students they are suppose to be taking care of work 2-3 jobs and live on student loans just to cover one semester. Welfare was under control. Hmmm did you see how many unemployeed people there were 40 years ago and how many kids were in foster care oh and how many single parents there were 40 yrs ago. Boarders were patrolled. True, but I don't see you complaining when the illegals were picking your fruit to help you harvest and some even giving their lives to do it due to poor working conditions. Greed and ignorance in America is what caused this and that is not a Demorcratic, Republican, Tea Party, etc issue that is an AMERICAN issue. Maybe we need to start going back to our forefather's theroy. If you don't have the money you don't spend the money. Oh and did I mention no one has gotten anywhere in life without the help of someone. If you say otherwise you are fooling yourself.

     
  • Rick Houdack posted at 8:59 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Rick Houdack Posts: 184

    That's only about one half-day per month. How does that stack up against George W Bush spending 1/4 of his time on vacation in Texas?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:03 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Did Obama really teach Constitutional Law?

    As reported in a Wall Street Journal column:

    He spoke slowly, with long pauses, giving the sense that he was speaking with great thought and precision: "Well, first of all, let me be very specific. Um [pause], we have not seen a court overturn [pause] a [pause] law that was passed [pause] by Congress on [pause] a [pause] economic issue, like health care, that I think most people would clearly consider commerce. A law like that has not been overturned [pause] at least since Lochner, right? So we're going back to the '30s, pre-New Deal."

    Lochner v. New York is one of the most important cases in Constitutional Law. How could someone who was supposed to be a professor of Constitutional Law at a top-14 law school not know that Lochner v. New York was about the Supreme Court overturning a New York STATE statute and not a federal statute? And then he was thirty years off because Lochner was decided in 1905.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:02 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Eric seems to be very careless with what he considers facts. First he attempts to make Obama appear to be more intellectual by claiming he taught at Harvard instead of a lower ranked college like Chicago. Then he attempts to deflect his intensional distortion by pretending I neglected t state something.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:30 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    What do my credentials have to do with anything? I haven't committed high treason.

    p.s. President Obama never taught at Harvard. [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 4:07 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Darrell I was mistaken Obama taught Consitutional Law at the University of Chicago not Harvard I did notice that you seem to have left the last of the sentence off let me correct that for you.

    He then taught at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law.[45]

    and from the University of Chicago Scool of Law


    By 1993, Obama was teaching Current Issues in Racism and the Law—a class he designed—and added Constitutional Law III in 1996.

    http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/magazine/spring09/greenloungetowhitehouse

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:39 pm on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Eric Barrow stated... Obama taught Constitutional law at Harvard what are your credentials

    Sorry Eric, you are wrong again. According to Wikipedia...

    In an interview with Ebony in 1990 ( while a student at Harvard), Obama stated that he saw a degree in law as a vehicle to facilitate better community organization and activism:Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991...In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book. He then taught at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 9:39 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Obama taught Constitutional law at Harvard what are your credentials?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:58 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    and too much fluoride and aspartame...

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:56 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Ron Paul’s bill to audit the Federal Reserve was overwhelmingly passed by the U.S. House of Representatives. The vote was 327 to 98. You would think that a bill with such overwhelming support would easily become law but it won’t because Barack Obama and the Democrats plan to kill it.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has already said that the Senate will not even consider the bill.

    If the Federal Reserve can zap trillions of dollars into existence out of thin air and loan that money to their friends at the big banks and to central banks in other countries, then it should not be too much to ask them to be accountable to the American people.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:38 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Bransom stated...But it is sad that so many people think the election of a single person will make a difference when there are 535 more that none of you seem to have ever heard of and thousands more behind the scenes pulling their strings

    Humm... maybe the millions and millions of people around the world are wrong and Jerry is right. Maybe the millions of people in United States are wrong and Jerry is right as well. But I do not think so.

    Most of the planet has the perception that the occupant of the white house is the most powerful person in the world. This person can veto any bill he does not approve of and can implement executive orders and make decisions that have significant consequences ( like sending our military to Vietnam and Iraq). Many bills never make it out of committee simply because the president announces he will veto the bill.

    To think that this one man does not make a difference is inexplicable and downright moronic. Jerry is an intelligent man, but on this one, all one can do is scratch one's head.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:31 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    104 days of Obama's life as President have been spent on the golf course. Most people who golf hardly play that many times in their whole life. Unlike Obama, priorities come first for them. Unless you're a prefessional golfer.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:07 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Evidently Ms. Bobin isn't aware or doesn't understand how the process of Presidential Executive Orders circumvents Congress. Not that Obamacare was an executive order.
    My point is, maybe she should read how an executive order works. Obama has quite a track record of executive orders. The latest being granting 2 million illegals backdoor amnesty by circumventing immigration laws.

     
  • Jerry Bransom posted at 6:49 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Jerry Bransom Posts: 363

    Well I am not sad. But it is sad that so many people think the election of a single person will make a difference when there are 535 more that none of you seem to have ever heard of and thousands more behind the scenes pulling their strings. This must be the result of too much wine or fox news.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:16 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Manuel got it right, 40 years ago there was prayer in public schools...

    I have never prayed, but I think the quality of education would be improved if it was included in the classroom.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:13 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin, I am sure that any classroom that had you in it would fear offering prayer. However, many classrooms in America( where you were not), did have this activity. Just because you are not aware of it does not mean it did not happen. In Bobin world, of course if she does not pray, no one does.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:08 am on Wed, Sep 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...Maybe you should read the Constitution instead of giving us YOUR definition

    Hummm... so you think the president does "not" have power to influence legislation?

    Obamacare is known as Obamacare because of the content of the law that was enacted. Ms Bobin clearly is having difficulties in comprehending the most obvious of realities... May I suggest you wake up from your fantasy world.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:52 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    [thumbup]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:49 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Maybe President Obama should read the Constitution Ms. Bobin...
    [sleeping]

    When Obama accepted rotating status as chairman of the United Nations Security Council, he committed high treason.

    Article 1 Section 9 Clause 8 of the Constitution for the United States of America, states emphatically:

    “No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States; and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall without consent of Congress accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:43 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The U.S. government’s indebtedness to foreign interests has grown by 72.3 percent during President Barack Obama’s term in office. In January 2009, when Obama was inaugurated, the U.S. government owed $3.0717 trillion to foreign entities, according to the Treasury Department. That has increased by $2.2206 trillion or 72.3 percent to the record $5.2923 trillion!!!
    [sleeping]

    http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:22 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I attended public school from 1960 to 1973. NEVER was there any prayer said in any classroom. We recited the Pledge every day. Never a prayer in sight. Nor was there any protest of the absence of prayer. Not until the 1980's when Reagan suddenly became the champion on prayer in the classroom.

    No one missed it because anyone to whom prayer was an important issue found solace in their place of worship - where it should remain - according to the Constitution of the United States of Amerca.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:13 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Newsflash... Congress makes laws the president signs.Of course Congress drafts the legislation, but the president determines if it becomes law. His power to determine what is in the law is substantial."

    Maybe you should read the Constitution instead of giving us YOUR definition of how our Republic works and how legislation is enacted. Morons are a dime a dozen in this town. You personifiy the extent to which ignorance will go to try to prove someone else wrong.

    You are a sad, sad person.

     
  • Manuel Martinez posted at 9:48 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Manuel Martinez Posts: 641

    "Forty years ago we had prayer in schools — not now."

    All I have to say to that is thank the gods...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:53 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Newsflash... Congress makes laws the president signs.Of course Congress drafts the legislation, but the president determines if it becomes law. His power to determine what is in the law is substantial.

     
  • Jerry Bransom posted at 7:36 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jerry Bransom Posts: 363

    NEWSFLASH Sam West! it is the CONGRESS that makes law!

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 7:35 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    "two seats"

    Darrell, I'm glad you had a good time!!

    Shame about the popcorn though...


    [sad]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:12 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Chang stated...I think you may be embellishing a bit...

    Not at all... I arrived 20 minutes early for the 2:30 showing... could not find two seats in the upper section. The lower section ended up 3/4 full...

    Do not take my word for it. Go yourself and see. This is a docu-movie with substance. Did not order popcorn as it is too expensive and unhealthy.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:50 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-slams-santorum-big-labor-republican-212213871.html

    Steve,

    It's kind of what Presidential candidates do.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:40 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Steve,

    There's probably a video Of Hillary Clinton disparaging Obama in 2008.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 4:45 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    Anything like Romney did when he quoted Obama saying, "If we talk about the economy, we're going to lose."

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 4:44 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

    no huff post here. the debt as a % of GDP is not open to subjectivity. How about the top marginal tax rate? 100% objective, just open up a book. Sorry if any of this disturbs the truthiness, that is what you feel to be true in your gut.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:40 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    It's too bad too...

    Regarding your disdain for Hollywood and it's products...

    On those slow days at the office...

    You could sneek across the street and enjoy an occasional debut at an budget minded price.

    The popcorn is a good value too!!!


    [wink]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:33 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1168

    "packed house"

    Darrell, so how was the matinee?

    I think you may be embellishing a bit...

    But that's ok, have fun.

    Was this the first time you've stepped in a theater like, since Nixon??


    [beam]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:17 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    2016... a must see movie... you can hear a pin drop in the stunned silence of the viewers.

    It was encouraging to see young people attending the showing. A film the entire family should see.( before November 2012)

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:14 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    but Steve...In 2016 , the producers interviewed Obama's Brother unedited. It also used Obama's words from his own mouth. It is a wonderful factual film that captured the real Obama. I would love to have you see the film and make comments.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:29 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Tillett stated...yes, responding to idealogues with facts that counter their assertions is indoctrination. /snark


    When one only responds to "perceived" idealogues with data only considered facts by far left idealogues like Mr Tillet... and has access to children who he has authority over... yes, indoctrination is inevitable.

    If you are on the right... Mr Huffingtonpost is there to offer is subjective opinions and partial perceived facts.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:00 pm on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    Right, but it's totally Obama's fault now.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 11:59 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    yes, responding to idealogues with facts that counter their assertions is indoctrination. /snark

    You often remind my of Colbert's description of Bush: "He believes on Wednesday exactly what he believed on Monday, no matter what happened on Tuesday."

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 11:52 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2603

    Funny, I just watched a video the Santorum campaign put out back during the primaries about what a disaster it would be if Romney became President.

    A real eye opener!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:34 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    After watching the movie "2016" on Monday to a packed house, it appears that LNS selected an excellent title for this letter. When the movie ended, you could see many people with shocked expressions on their face. I heard several people who said they voted for Obama in 2008 say they were ashamed of their vote. Another couple I overheard said they were not concerned for themselves but for their children who would eventually suffer the consequences of an Obama presidency...

    I highly recommend all pro and anti Obama people view this film. You will be shocked but better informed as to who Omaba really is.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:23 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Thank you Mr Tillet. You perform a wonderful service for people to understand where liberal thought comes from...and teachers wonder why there is a demand for alternate schools away from the public school system. I am thankful that Mr Tillett posts his thoughts to expose his obvious bias that is typical in the public school system. How do you spell indoctrination?

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:52 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Publicly_Held_Federal_Debt_1790-2009.png

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:43 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USDebt.png

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:25 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Ms. West forgot to add: "As the BUMPER STICKER says" We had President Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, no cash and no hope.

    These are the values of Republicans (in this case a JBSer) who love to plagerize and not give credit where credit is due.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this entire letter has been plagerized from some other source. Ms. West is not generally known for her literary originality.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:11 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Really? Then why are Romney and Ryan zombie-fying the "are you better off today" routine if things were so hunky-dory when Reagan was running against Carter?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:53 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    http://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Savage-Solutions/dp/1595550062

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:44 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Steve,

    Be my guest in finding the circumstances that started all the deficit spending decades before Reagan entered office. Frankly, I would say the D's and R's are equally responsible for dipping their hands into the cookie jar far too often.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:37 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    When President Reagan entered office, spending, deficits, and debt had been steadily rising for decades. Yet the nation’s fiscal situation was under control and the federal government’s spending did not pose nearly the threat it does today. The national deficit in FY 1980 was only 2.6 percent of GDP.

    Read more: http://atr.org/obama-vs-reagan-current-administrations-spending-a7075#ixzz25W2d5d3l

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:31 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Steve,

    I don't see you complaining about all the Bush policies Obama has extended that, according to opponents of Bush, are failed policies. You're still an opponent of Bush.
    What gives?

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 8:25 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    So, public school prayer was deemed unconstitutional in 1962, 50 years ago, not too far from 40, I guess. But the pledge is required; we pledge everyday in every first period class. We did have debt, dropping to a post-war low of 24% of GDP in 1974 (112% of GDP in 1945). That president that did what he said he would, was that... Nixon 40 years ago, and did HE "live" by the Constitution? But all of this "goodness" has been lost... in the last 3.5 years?

    Oh, and those good ol' days like 1972, the top marginal tax rate was 70%. Oh except, in the late 60's it had gone up a bit. I guess that means during war time, you're supposed to raise taxes... is that right Mr. Bush?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:25 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    The forecast predicts loss for Obama with 218 votes versus 320 for Mitt Romney

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:23 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Bad news Barack: Electoral College computer model that's correctly predicted presidential elections since 1980 shows big WIN for Romney

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192464/Bad-news-Obama-Electoral-College-model-correctly-predicted-presidential-elections-1980-opts-ROMNEY.html#ixzz25VzDZKVP

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:22 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    http://www.dickmorris.com/obamas-sneaky-treaties/


    Steve,
    I know you're not concerned about the treaties Obama wants to sign before he gets kicked out of the White House. But you should stay informed.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:15 am on Tue, Sep 4, 2012.

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    Chuckle.... School Prayer? Deficit Spending?

    Most of the what Ms West is complaining about happened during either the Nixon or the Reagan Administrations. If she wants to go back in time and retroactively impeach those two shining lights of the Republican Party, she can be my guest.

     

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