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Letter: March for Life numbers are growing each year

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Posted: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:00 am

This past week the 41st anniversary of the infamous Roe v. Wade was commemorated. The 41st March for Life was held in Washington, D.C., incredibly bringing forth hundreds of thousands in spite of the frigid weather. Most important, which was noted by the media, was the number of young people attending.

One relatively young group, Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust, has become very actively pro-life because one-sixth of their generation has perished in their mother’s womb. They have seen first-hand the results of abortion on demand in their own families, friends and schoolmates.

The West Coast March for Life held in San Francisco last Saturday doubled their attendance to 50,000, again with growing numbers of young people — the future of America.

An astounding number of abortion mills (87) closed for good last year. Three abortionists, John Hamilton of Oklahoma, Kermit Gosnell of Pennsylvania and Brian Finkel of Arizona, will never get out of jail and their abortion mills are closed for good.

Missouri and Texas passed laws prohibiting anyone from performing an abortion unless the abortionist has hospital admitting privileges within 30 miles of where the abortion is performed and also provides obstetrical or gynecological health care services. Many abortionists do not and cannot satisfy this requirement, and many abortion clinics shift the high cost of their abortion complications on to the public. Fifteen abortion mills closed in Texas and only one still operates in Missouri.

I have never been able to comprehend the mentality of the fanatic Planned Parenthood in fighting tooth and nail against parental rights, a waiting period, ultrasounds and most of all, inspections of clinics to assure sanitary conditions. Most of the abortion mills were closed because of filthy conditions and pages of violations. Abortion had become so sacrosanct that clinics hadn’t been inspected for years. Maybe that was because the abortionists made so much money and gave heavily to politicians.

Kathleen Sibelius, former Kansas governor, now Health and Human Services secretary implementing Obamacare, protected the Kansas abortion industry.

The unintended consequence of Roe v. Wade has been to relegate Caucasian Western Europe and the U.S. to permanent minority status.

Phyllis Roche


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  • Christina Welch posted at 1:35 pm on Fri, Feb 7, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 460

    Not sure where you learn your history, Ms Bobin...

    The Republicans of Lincoln now being the Democrats? REALLY? Interesting, as they started as a third party in 1854 solely devoted to the issue of non-extension of slavery into the territories. In Lincoln's election, they expanded their platform to include a protective tariff, a Pacific railroad, homesteads, and the like to appease the North. (The parties at this time became purely sectional in nature, which, of course, will lead to the Civil War.) Lincoln's platform was nothing even close to the Democratic platform of today. The Republicans of Lincoln then evolved into the Republicans of the Gilded Age, those whose policies you rail against daily. So, you're saying the greed and laissez faire policies of the Republicans in the 19th century are the same as the Democrats today? Crazy. And, the Civil War wasn't about freeing the slaves for Lincoln, it was about preserving the union. The Emancipation Proclamation came later and it was a war move, to give a moral reasoning beyond the political causes of the war. I really don't think you have a clue as to the political origins or developments of our two party system or our history. Or you just like to be divisive.

    As for Wilson--he wasn't our first Progressive president; Teddy Roosevelt and then Taft came before him. The Progressive era was in full swing already while Wilson was against suffrage for women and he did not turn aound until, as I said, he saw it as a "vitally necessary war measure" (HIS words.) "Leader of the modern day Progressive Party?" Well, that wasn't Wilson, either, that was Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 when he didn't get the Republican nomination. Actually, Wilson can thank Teddy 'cause his splitting the Republican Party is what got Wilson elected.

    And, actually, many Republicans at the time of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation WERE upset by it, as were Democrats, and even abolitionists who felt it didn't go far enough. But, honestly, the last part of your post is off-topic anyway.

    I stand by what I say--get informed. Or, at least expand your knowledge beyond Wikipedia or whatever.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:09 pm on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Actually, "Ms. Welch," you would have to understand how the roles of the two parties have reversed themselves over the years, with the Republicans of Lincoln now being the Democrats. I know that Republicans love to pat themselves on their backs for ending slavery, but it certainly wasn't present day Republicans who even had that thought.

    And although Wilson was technically a sorta "Southern Democrat," he became the leader of the modern day Progressive Party which explains quite clearly how he turned about on women's suffrage.

    Imagine how present day Republicans would react to Lincoln's Executive Order - more commonly known as "The Emancipation Proclamation." If they think Obama's over the top with ANY ONE of his EO's, imagine what they'd have to say about Lincoln!

    As you say I like to say, "get informed."

  • Christina Welch posted at 10:32 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 460

    Actually, Ms Bobin, the 19th amendment was, indeed, very much a policy of conservative Republicans. It was introduced initially by a Republican senator in the 1870's and was supported strongly by Republican Progressives during that era. Initially President Wilson was against the amendment (not surprising as he was a southern Democrat, and they were the most vocal opponents of the measure) and women who picketed the White House in support of voting rights were summarily arrested and jailed. He finally came around in 1918, when he came to support suffrage as a "vitally necessary war measure" due to their essential participation in the war. When you look at the history of voting rights for women, it was actually the democrats (mostly southern) who fought so strongly against it. What is that you so often say to others about "getting informed?" Hmmmmm....

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:34 am on Wed, Feb 5, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter wrote: "Claiming these examples were ""liberal" acts is pretty pathetic. Liberals would have you believe everything that American should be thankful for is a result of "liberal" actions. One word defines this thesis, HOGWASH."

    Baxxter - Do YOU truly believe that the items Mr. Schmidt mentioned were supported by conservatives? If so, you have a very strange notion of what conservatives stand for as far as social policy goes. I somehow doubt that, had you been around 125 years ago YOU would have supported giving women the vote, judging by your misogynistic attitude in this forum.

    Baxxter wrote: "Liberals "SPIN" so much they are dizzy."

    So Baxxter, you are contesting the fact that Stephen Colbert's on-stage persona is not that of a pompous screwball conservative? Is THAT the "spin" you are speaking of?

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:23 am on Wed, Feb 5, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter, you are describing so-called "partial birth" abortion. A procedure that has mostly been banned and is rarely performed.

    Perhaps you would be better to go stand in front of the Planned Parenthood clinic in Stockton with all the religious freaks out their shouting and who bring their 5 and 6 year olds with them to pass out informative pamphlets with pictures of aborted babies.

    Wonderful - they are against abortion, but they are not against letting tiny children see this stuff. Quite perverted if you ask me.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:29 am on Tue, Feb 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Again accusations from you but no rebuttal . Is there something in my statement you disagree with or is this one more example of you not having any answerers and reverting to you usual responses.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:36 am on Tue, Feb 4, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Liberals "SPIN" so much they are dizzy.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:33 am on Tue, Feb 4, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Claiming these examples were ""liberal" acts is pretty pathetic. Liberals would have you believe everything that American should be thankful for is a result of "liberal" actions. One word defines this thesis, HOGWASH.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:05 pm on Mon, Feb 3, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Joe, Jeff is quite correct Colbert's onstage persona is that of a bungling foolish conservative he mirrors the right's own biases to poke fun at conservatives. I didn't think most conservative's would understand that nuance but evidently you picked up on it.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:55 am on Mon, Feb 3, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    [thumbup] Exactly, Mr. Schmidt.

    Somewhat like Mike Huckabee: "women....are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system..."

    Must be pretty wild at the Huckabee manse with the Mrs.'s libido running wild - as I'm sure Huckabee was speaking from experience.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:00 am on Mon, Feb 3, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    There are women that do such things but I would like to see some stats to back up your beliefs, one or two bad apples do not support a trend. As soon as men start carrying babies to term I guess then they can have a choice of what they do with their bodies.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 9:43 am on Mon, Feb 3, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    Where to begin? Freeing the slaves seems to have been for the greater good. I suspect at least half of Americans would agree that giving women the right to vote was a move in the right direction. You don't see many people second guessing the repeal of prohibition.

    Lets not forget that all of these actions were considered "liberal" if not radical in their day and that each one was vehemently opposed by the conservatives of the time, conservatives who have been as thoroughly discredited as the conservatives of today will have been in 100 years.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:27 am on Mon, Feb 3, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Mr. Barrow, please list the successful liberal programs that you claim exist. After all, if they have been discussed in depth in this forum, you should have no problem posting them.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:28 pm on Sun, Feb 2, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    As someone who fully supports a woman's right to control her own body, I am always puzzled by conservatives who claim that abortion is murder and then make an exception for cases of rape and incest.

    At face value this contradiction appears to be the result of hypocrisy but I suspect it actually speaks to the real truth that, far from believing that a fetus is a person, these individuals are just acting on the larger misogynist agenda that defines the conservative movement.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 1:34 pm on Sun, Feb 2, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    I don't know where Ms Roach got her numbers but all of the estimates I have seen put attendance at around 200,000 to 400,000 which means that attendance was, in fact, DOWN by somewhere between 250,000 to half a million from the estimated 700,000 who attended in 2013.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 11:13 am on Sat, Feb 1, 2014.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557

    You are correct in your assessment of his satirical caricature of right-wing stalwarts like yourself.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:36 am on Sat, Feb 1, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Colbert is a "bumbling stooge" with way more money than YOU have, Baxxter.

    You, at least, should respect him for THAT - since you judge people solely on the amount of money they have and how little they use public resources.

    Hypocritical as usual.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:02 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Let's try this one more time:

    A. There are WOMEN who trade sex for drugs and don't much care if they get pregnant, PP will eliminate the baby.

    B. There are WOMEN who intentionally get pregnant thinking the baby daddy will surely marry them when they are "with child" only to find out daddy disappears, so off to PP.

    C. There are WOMEN who are, for whatever reason, too stupid to realize you can get pregnant so off to PP.

    D. There are WOMEN who don't want the financial or emotional obligtation to raise a child they willingly conceived, off to PP.

    E. There are WOMEN that prostitute themselves and wind up pregnant, off to PP.

    It takes a MAN and a WOMAN to conceive a child. Both share the obligation, but most often it is the WOMAN'S decision to abort.

    Leave it to the bra-burning feminists to lay blame on men. Typical.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:24 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Since when is murdering babies and funding deadbeats a "social issue"? Both should be criminal.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:15 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Here is a very good description of what goes on during an abortion for all of you that think abortion is no big deal.

    1) Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s legs with forceps.

    2) The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.

    3) The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.

    4) The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the skull.

    5) The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.

    Just another day at Planned Parenthood. But gee, it only happens over 300,000 times a year at PP which is ONLY 5% of their offered services. Nationwide abortions are performed at the rate of over 3,000 a day, in America. Makes liberals tingle with joy.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:04 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Colbert is a bumbling stooge. It will follow that liberals like him.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:45 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    What a remarkable existence it would be to believe that a person would rather go to a clinic for a abortion than take birth control I pity a person who has to live in that world.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:24 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I'm so glad that Ed believes that everyone is doing the right thing at the right time and if they were we wouldn't have unwanted pregnancies.

    Judging by the number of teens accompanying their mothers in the supermarkets of Lodi with a baby in the basket (usually, MOM is pretending the baby is HERS), your idea that teens know all about birth control and most likely would use it responsibly definitely falls flat.

    One neighbor (Mom & Dad) thought it would be a good idea to be sure that their pregnant 17 year old daughter would learn a lesson by making her attend church every Sunday in her obviously very pregnant state.

    Didn't work - she had another baby the next year with yet another father. Mom's next solution? Open a Day Care Center to care for her accidental grandchildren. Oh, brother!!

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:17 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Let's try this one more time because someone STILL has the impression that people are all cut out of the same mold as himself.

    A. There are MEN who do not allow their partners to use birth control or who sabotage efforts to use birth control.

    B. There are MEN who refuse to use condoms or who deliberately perforate them to "pretend" they are using contraception.

    C. There are MEN who force their pregnant partners under physical force to have an abortion (OR NOT have an abortion) after A & B above.

    D. There are MEN who force their wives to have as many children as they can impregnate them with because it feeds their egos.

    I know you think that everyone should have your same values and social mores as yourself, but they DO NOT. There are NUTS out there in the world that do all kinds of weird things to control their partners. Don't believe it if you like, but do not make blanket statements like that above.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:09 pm on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Baxxter, your comment certainly reflects your lack of information regarding this topic, as ususal.

    Abortions - for the FIVE HUNDRETH TIME - account for only 5% of Planned Parenthood services and their are THOUSANDS of clinics NOT affiliated with Planned Parenthood that perform abortions.

    Really getting tired of your Holier Than Thou attitude toward social issues.

    And I imagine that you no doubt think that abortions should ONLY to allowed in cases of LEGITIMATE RAPE, right?

  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:19 am on Fri, Jan 31, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    Lberals support the stupid people's answer to have unprotected sex, knowing if they should get pregnant they can simply have a free abortion, compliments of Planned Parenthood, and get on with life, most likely doing the same thing again and again. I agree legal abortions should be available for rape or incest victims or if a full term pregnancy is a significant health risk to the mother, child or both. The name PLANNED PARENTHOOD should be changed to PLANNED ABORTION as it more correctly reflects their operational model.

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:09 pm on Thu, Jan 30, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2370

    “Force women to have children?!?” That’s their justification for abortion today? Unbelievable -- simply unbelievable! Who is forcing women to have children?

    Fifty-five million and counting - and we consider ourselves enlightened and liberals consider themselves on the side of those who cannot fend for themselves. Who but the unborn are in need of protection more? They have no voice and they have no vote. And until that first breath is drawn they’re nothing but useless and worthless human tissue – tossed out with the garbage. Fifty-five million and counting lost to the abortionist’s tools . . . At least they’re fully employed.

  • Ed Walters posted at 7:41 pm on Thu, Jan 30, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    What is better, a woman that took the Pill, or a woman that did not and paid the price of having an unwanted baby. Today I would think every young person in high school knows how babies are made, now it would be up to them and grown adults to practice on how to not have a baby. Teens are shown unborn babies thanks to a sona-gram, the grusom side is teens not wanting a baby and use a coat hanger to preform there own abortion, and risking their own life to rid themseves of the life inside them. Still with all the knowledge, babies that have come full turm are found in plastic bags in dumpsters. Is there a better way, yes, use common sence and what is available to stop before life begins. Birth control pills are just what the Doctor ordered.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:11 pm on Thu, Jan 30, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    What EXACTLY is Ms. Roche saying? That abortion is a plan to reduce the number of Caucasians in Western Europe and the US? A big plot by minorities to take over the Western World?

    What a complete bigot! And I didn't even have to look "around any corners in Lodi" to find this one.

  • John Lucas posted at 9:45 am on Thu, Jan 30, 2014.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Ms Roche said:

    The unintended consequence of Roe v. Wade has been to relegate Caucasian Western Europe and the U.S. to permanent minority status.

    Yes This is a great moral reason to force women to have children. This really shows where Ms Roche political views are really at.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:08 am on Thu, Jan 30, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    To quote Stephen Colbert from last night's show:

    "A cow kicked Nelly in the Belly, also the Republican plan for contraception."

    See the show for context, but Colbert is right-on.


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