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Posted: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:00 am

Our students deserve better. In 2010, the LUSD Board of Trustees raised class sizes for our students in kindergarten through 12th grade. It was done, ostensibly, as a cost savings measure, but also to put pressure on employees to concede to dramatic salary concessions.

At the time, LUSD was asking employees to take a 10.25-percent salary cut. Teachers ultimately agreed to salary concessions of 6.125 percent, but class sizes were not fully restored. However, since 2010, the district’s fiscal reserves have grown each year, with 2011-12 showing an ending fund balance of over $50 million.

Now, in the wake of the passage of Proposition 30, our teachers and our community expect to see our school board begin to reverse the austerity measures put in place three years ago. To the board’s credit, instructional days were restored for 2013-14, bringing instruction back to 180 days. Even with restoration of instructional days, LUSD will continue to operate with reserves in excess of $40 million — more than enough to begin an earnest conversation with employees about class sizes for next year.

Teachers believe that 29 students in kindergarten through third grade, where the most significant and foundational learning of a student’s educational career takes place, is too many. Classes which provide remediation for students in math or language arts, and classes focused on teaching our second language learners must be smaller as well.

As a community, we expect more. Our students deserve more. And Proposition 30 directs our tax dollars to fund education. Join me in calling on our elected school board members to engage classroom teachers in erstwhile conversation about class sizes.

Jeff Johnston

President

Lodi Education Association

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68 comments:

  • Quan Pham posted at 9:00 am on Wed, May 22, 2013.

    qpham63 Posts: 31

    The problem is more than class size. I was raised in a system where the number of student is more than 60 per class. Our teachers has these rulers though that they use to swat/spank the students for being unrudely.

    It is amazing when you have an orderly class room where the kids are well behaved and paying attention that you can still actually teach your subject matters when you have a 60:1 ratio of kids to teachers.

    Those who are impervious to the ruler will be expelled after a number of times acting out in a class room.

    It is because we were not afraid to punish bad behavior and we focus on the good of many and not the few trouble makers.

    We should go back to that and watch our cost per student drop and accomplishment over all rise.

    I say ... Bring back the paddle.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:39 pm on Mon, May 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    "what's her name" is Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt and we have interviewed her on numerous occasions.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 11:16 am on Sun, May 19, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    5-18-13
    1921

    "I feel sorry for you that you have so much hate and anger built up inside of you. So much so that you cannot hear an opposing view point and offer only worn out cliches and buzz words from the right and use them in a way that means absolutely nothing."

    Thank you for proving my point eh.... A typical Joe Baxter reaction, work at the canary for 30 years, retire and live off social security, all the time complaining that the schools you attended didn't teach you right....they didn't know how to teach you....the teachers didn't care....always getting kicked out of class.....blah blah blah blah.

    I'm sure they did the best they could with you, but from what I can see from your scribbled hateful prose, you were destined to do just what you are doing now. Complaining. And you're not very good at that either by the way. You should take a creative writing course (for the benefit of the rest of the class, take it on-line please). Maybe you could develop a new formulaic retort rather than the cookie cutter paste-in-the-name-of-the-group-you-currently-hate-the-most and keep the rest of it the same. Come on...you're coming off as lazy. What kind of retired at 50 canary worker comes off as lazy?

     
  • Jerry Bransom posted at 3:39 pm on Sat, May 18, 2013.

    Jerry Bransom Posts: 363

    What a horribly understated comment. I have been in some of these classrooms with more than 40 children in them. There is a single teacher, 3 or 4 parents of the most unruly students, the occasional psychiatrist, the part timer principals and chaos. I do not see how any child can ever learn in this environment. In fact, they don't. Yet somehow, the gigantic administrative staff continues to grow - and get raises for manipulation of facts. And the parents are the worst you can imagine!

    You people need to wake up - these poorly educated kids will become our worst nightmare. These poor teachers are just about at their wits end. It resembles bad day care more than school. Yet there is money for all manner of specialists and NOW a new educational curriculum that is guaranteed to make it worse. Insanity supported by a bunch of fools.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:44 am on Sat, May 18, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Couldn't find any, eh? Typical liberal reaction, don't accept the truth, challenge it.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:03 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    [smile]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:52 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    I feel sorry for you that you have so much hate and anger built up inside of you. So much so that you cannot hear an opposing view point and offer only worn out cliches and buzz words from the right and use them in a way that means absolutely nothing.

    Let me apologize right now that you missed something during your public school tenure. I'm sorry we were unable to make you into a productive, positive, knowledgeble adult who can hear dissenting viewpoints and rebut them in a way that doesn't embarrass yourself with juvenile responses. You should sue the school district that you graduated from. I'd be glad to testify on your behalf as to how you were graduated without the requisite skills you needed.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:46 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    Mr. Chapman: This is exactly my point....Anytime you see educational stats showing how good or how bad students are performing you need to be looking at the critera that the "evaluators" use to determine rankings which should be the following
    1) the instrument (test(s)) they are using
    Is it a test of achievement or is it a test of intellegence
    Is it a test of aptitude (the ability to learn) or achievement
    Is it the same test world wide (I'll save you the time...there is no
    standardized test used world wide...there are different tests)
    2) who is being tested
    are they testing students who are planning on going to college?
    are they testing only the students who are in one class or program
    that doesn't include all the students
    how many students are not testing compared to how many are being
    tested. (It's well documented that early in the "STAR" series in CA
    many students were not tested because they didn't meet the
    protocol to be tested, there were also no established requirements
    that almost all students were required to test)
    how old are the students tested or at what grade level(s)
    3) is the test valid for the population being tested (that is, does it
    measure what it is supposed to measure) as an example, would
    students taking the test comprehend the questions asked, do they
    have the vocabulary skills to eliminate the effect of a lack of academic
    vocabulary would have on being able to answer a question based on
    it's subject matter
    4) who is sponsoring the test or evaluating its' results
    the example you cited looks ok, but who is "Student Performance on
    the Reading, Scientific and Mathematical Literacy Scales, mean
    score, 2006 "?
    And this is why I am not giving you a sarcastic, snide remark like the one I am about to give below.... you don't immediately take offense and re-boot all the nonsensical ranting of Mr. Baxter who, despite massive amounts of reasoning and evidence, would ever question the slanted analysis and cherry picked data of groups who for some reason don't like public education or teachers and probably not even students and because of such could never change his mind.

    Finally, as I've said before no country in the world or even the history of the world educates more children, with a wider variety of abilities, longer than the US. And we do it for free and have to do it for free.

    My guess is the only way Mr. Baxter can write a post here or LTE is because he learned to do so in a public school somewhere along the way.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:01 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    [smile] Do you really understand what your post is really about?

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:00 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1161

    He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The ground of a certain rich man brought forth abundantly. He reasoned within himself, saying, 'What will I do, because I don't have room to store my crops?' He said, 'This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. I will tell my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry."'

    "But God said to him, 'You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?' So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."

    — Luke 12:16-21

    [thumbup]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:59 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You are right and I will always feel gratitude for not doing so.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:54 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Using the words "intelligence" and "liberalism" in the same sentence is about as funny as it gets. Thanks for the laugh of the day.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:51 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Education does not equate to intellect. Joanne Bobbin said it, so it must be so.
    Find some statistics that show American education levels ranking higher than those I posted. Can't find any? Didn't think so.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:31 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Bobbin, you should really kick back and unwind. Want to rent one of my vacation condos? The one in Maui goes for 8K/mo, the one on Coronado Island is only $6/mo but I do have a cute little house in Crescent City overlooking Battery Point Lighthouse that I will let you rent for only $3K/mo. I have others but they are all occupied on annual leases.Let me know ASAP as the first available is the Crescent City property, in December. I might let you skate for only 50% of the usual deposit and cleaning fee since you are from Lodi. Oh, NO PETS allowed.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 2:19 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 609

    Joanne: Another million dollars per student should repair the broken education system. Money alone will bring all students up to the 4.012 GPA. Level, level, you don`t need no stink`en levels. Come on guys, take a break and have a nice day and a better week-end.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 12:42 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    No, Mr. Lucas, you are indeed correct, you will never reach my level. Enjoy your weekend.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 12:33 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    I will use your expression, "projection at it's finest".

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 12:20 pm on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Mr. Adams, it is no secret that American educational achievments are dismal. It doesn't take much effort to find data that reveal just how bad they are on a global scale. Here is one that has the exact scale that Mr. Baxter posted and may be the site where he obtained the information.

    http://www.geographic.org/country_ranks/educational_score_performance_country_ranks_2009_oecd.html

    Finding and retaining quality teachers is not necessarily a question of high pay. Instead, teachers need to be treated as the valuable professionals they are, not as technicians in a huge, educational machine.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:51 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    That is projection if I have ever saw it but do not worry we will never reach your level

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:49 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I get your reasoning. The fact that there are bad teachers we should underfund our educational system by giving tax cuts to the super wealthy and corporations. Makes sense if you are super wealthy as you can send your kids to a good private school.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:46 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    It is not about agreeing or about politics. Like you Mr. Baxter is full of anger and resentment. It shows in both of your writings.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:28 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    My father in law received a $400 monthly check from the Canadian for his bleeding hemorrhoids suffered during WWII until the day he passed away. I hear some military personnel receive some pretty healthy retirement/disability checks from the military welfare system that enables them to "retire" early?

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:22 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    Joe, where do you conjure up all those childish names you come up with?

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 10:21 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Really, Mr. Lucas? You claim God 'inflicted" someone with some sort of "divine" ailment on someone just because you don't agree with them?. You call yourself a Christian?

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 10:13 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Mr. Baxter, arguing with liberals is futile and it drags you down to their level, not a very enviable place to be.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 10:11 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Denying there are not any teachers who are adrift in our educational system that have absolutely no business being in a classroom is naive, at best. Thanks to unions and the idiotic "tenure" structure, there are a many "teachers" who could care less about the quality of education they impart to students. They seem to be just waiting around for their lucrative retirement benefits. Of course, not all teachers are bad, I have met a great many dedicated teachers that love their jobs and are an asset to our educational system and the students who are in their classrooms.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:45 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    Maybe you should read the one below. Am I wrong about that?

    Can you answer those questions or just say something with "hogwash" in your rebutal?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:33 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Take a long hard look at the Common Core program that is being touted as the panacea for the fix of our broken educational system. Bring under taught students up or bright students down?"

    Can someone explain what Mr. Baxxter means by "under taught students?"

    Are those students that teachers deliberately don't teach?

    And bright students generally don't lose any of their brightness. Besides, LUSD has a private academy for bright students - it's called Elkhorn School.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:24 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    [beam][thumbup]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:23 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baxxter wrote: "Really want to start a contest for mistakes in posts Bobbin? I have pointed out many in yours. Mine was a result of changing the content without changing all of the words. If you are so smart, how come you are still working? I retired at 50."

    Must have hit a nerve, huh, Mr. Baxxter? Is that why you reported my comment?
    I don't think that you have ever "pointed out many" in my posts since your only comments are typically name-calling and no other substance.

    And since when is a sign of intelligence measured by how "early" one retires? Another example of twisted logic and "low knowledgable"-ness.

    Unless you are trying to say that you know how to game the system by retiring on some sort of disability and living on the public dole.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:44 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Another in depth analysis of an argument or an idea. Is it possible for you to write a sentence without making a personal attack?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:18 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Like most of your posts Mikey. DEAD WRONG.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:14 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    I love it when the partially informed start spouting off statistics.....

    "On a global scale, American students rank 33rd in reading, 27th in math and 22nd in science yet the United States continually outspends most nations per student."

    How were these numbers arrived at?
    What instrument was used to generate these numbers?
    Was it the same test throughout the nations that generated data?
    Who was tested in the countries cited? College prep? Everyone? Some?
    How long do other nations educate their youth? Until 18? 20? 13?
    How much does Sweden pay per student? If Sweden was a participant, who did they test?

    Without answers to these questions, all you have are a bunch of numbers that mean nothing. People who start blabbering the numbers game are just looking to beat up on public education. A public education system that educates everyone and educates longer than any other country in the world.

    As andrew always copies and pastes, you should educate yourself. It may keep you from embarrassing yourself when you are talking to educated people.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:32 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    The only people I know of that retire at 50 are cops and guys that work in the cannery. My guess is you're the latter.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:28 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    BTW...looking over the jacket cover doesn't count as "reading" the book.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:27 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    ""we" have interviewed her on more than one occasion"
    There you go again.....sticking with the lie that you work for some 3rd rate conspiracy website. "We" doesn't include you.

    Did you make what's her name email you and call in just to be interviewed? No, of course not...because you didn't interview her...you had nothing to do with it at all.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:32 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Really want to start a contest for mistakes in posts Bobbin? I have pointed out many in yours. Mine was a result of changing the content without changing all of the words. If you are so smart, how come you are still working? I retired at 50.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:50 am on Fri, May 17, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/09/mitt-romneys-cynical-tax-ruse

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:52 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    I have read Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt's book Ms. Bobin and we have interviewed her on more than one occassion. I am informed.

    You have not read it and are opinionated. [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:29 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    I suggested you look at Romney's tax returns after you mistakenly suggested he paid only 9%. You then said, "Your inability to tell the difference between fantasy and reality has everything to do with you." and "I will tell you one great truth. There is a reason people ignore you."

    Mr. Lucas, Your calling people names and sarcasm are not arguments against what I said but then again if that is all you got I guess you have to go with it. [beam]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:24 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Adams: [thumbup]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:23 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    [beam][thumbup]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:22 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I think that Mr. Liebich contributes more to the "dumbing down" of America than any one agency.

    Links to websites that support your theories are no better than being "opinionated." FYI - you REALLY are not "informed," but only supporting your "opinions."

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:35 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Very true,Joanne, but I really feel sorry for the guy. His whole soul is filled with venom and bile and it leaks out on these pages.. We do not know what happened to him but there for the grace of God go I. We should be thankful that for some reason god has not inflicted us with his disease. We are lucky.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:59 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    [beam][thumbup]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:36 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Your calling people names and sarcasm are not arguments against what I said but then again if that is all you got I guess you have to go with it.. [beam]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:41 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    What? Pure hogwash. Keep believing the bloviating liberal pundits instead of finding out the truth. So many low knowledgable simpletons swallow the liberal hogwash. Rachel MadCow or Chris MadThews said it on TV, it must be so...Most of their claims are easily proven to be BS but the liberal knuckle draggers are too lazy to figure it out for themselves.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:41 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    This is what happens when we decide it is more important for the super wealthy and corporations to have tax cuts rather than spending the money on the education of our children.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:54 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    On a global scale, American students rank 33rd in reading, 27th in math and 22nd in science yet the United States continually outspends most nations per student. Take a long hard look at the Common Core program that is being touted as the panacea for the fix of our broken educational system. Bring under taught students up or bright students down?

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:42 pm on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1661

    [thumbup]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 10:08 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    CNN Conspiracy News Network.

    For those who are subject to only conspiracy theories to "digest".
    All others are oblivious or deliberately staying ignorant and refusing to hear our message.

    Please see our link at youtube.youpeoplewillbelieveanythingwetellyou/sheep.com

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:54 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    CNN is a conspiracy theory website? Huh? [huh]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:53 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Again, factually inaccurate. Do some research. [sleeping]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:50 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    Joanne: you are correct about your assessment of the gernerational need of the right to keep themselves ignorant. It maintains the status quo so nicely from one generation to the next.

    As to the conspiracy theorist, the "truth" is that which is supported only by citations from other conspiracy websites or perhaps the occasional repurposing of an intentionally misquoting a legitimate news story or citing a letter to the editor.

    I see simon has got his knife out early. Good to know it doesn't ever cut any of andrews misinformed deceitful rants along with the uncecessary you tube links and links to his many conspiracy web sites. Good job LNS

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:42 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    He claimed 13% but "forgot" to claim some charity (church) money. You think he has changed it by now?

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:40 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1496

    Joanne: prior to the foundation of the tea party, the birchers were against "outcome based education". the program that would insure that what students were supposed to learn actually mastered before they moved on. They considered this a big conspiracy (surprise!!).

    You're correct in your assessment that the goals of the tea party are to keep students dumbed down...look at their parents....they learned the same way.
    "Stupid is as stupid does" (Our conspiracy theorist would list Forrest Gump as a world leader for such a statement).

    For any other evidence of the lack of critical thinking skills, just look to the posts here and the hundreds of letters that all say the same thing and use the same terms: socialist , communist, dictator, czar, Kenyan, etc. All the verbage in between those words is just filler like bubble wrap. And the nuts eat it up...

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:39 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    so true [smile]

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:31 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1661

    John
    It is a common mistake for conservatives to mistake intelligence for liberalism. You must present things as conspiracies, cover-ups or scandals and refer to all opposition as idiots and libertards to have acceptance. Anytime you say 'lets reason this out' or 'the consensus of the data shows' means you are pursuing a logical intelligent approach that smacks of liberalism. Fox and Rush has warned them to be on their guard against these left wing tactics of rational thinking.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:18 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Your inability to tell the difference between fantasy and reality has everything to do with you. I will now put you back on ignore.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:11 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Read and you might become informed rather than opinionated.

    http://www.amazon.com/Deliberate-Dumbing-Down-America-Chronological/dp/0945019734/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1368720566&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=the+delibereate+dumbing+down

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:06 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    "Potato/PoTAto" [huh]

    A claim that Romney paid 9% in taxes was made. The claim was factually inaccurate.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:03 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    What does your inability to digest truth have to do with me anyway?
    [rolleyes]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:58 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I can see where Conservatives would believe that thinking is a left wing plot.
    [smile]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:38 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Now, back to the actual topic of this letter, we were supposed to have been committed to lowering class size and that never happened.

    We owe it to the next generation to give them the best chance at learning and getting ahead.

    There are thousands and thousands of jobs available in this country. The problem is we have not prepared anyone to take them. That is the failure of our education system.

    And now the TEA Party is attempting to make some type of conspiracy theory about the Common Core curriculum (which actually teaches kids to THINK) and make out like it is some left wing plot to brainwash kids.

    That is how those on the right control the population - by keeping them stupid and unable to think for themselves. If they are successful, we'll have a whole population that thinks the way the TEA Party (and Mr. Liebich) think - looking over their shoulders for the next plot that ostensibly promises to destroy our way of life.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:35 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Andrew, ignoring you is really the smart thing to do but I will tell you one great truth. There is a reason people ignore you.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:27 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Potato/PoTAto, Mr. Liebich.

    Heck, If I made 21 million without lifting a finger, I wouldn't mind paying 3 million in taxes. In fact, I'd throw in another 4 of 5 just for the giggles.

    In comparison, if I bust my butt making 50K and I have to pay 7500 in taxes, I'd have second thoughts about how much more I'd be willing to give up.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:54 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Mitt Romney's taxes have absolutely nothing to do with smaller class sizes in Lodi but since you brought up the topic perhaps it's time you considered digesting some truth.
    [sleeping]

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/24/news/economy/Romney_tax_return/index.htm?iid=EL#correction

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:37 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

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    Mr. Johnston needs to get his priorities in order. It is obviously more important that someone like Mitt Romney should only pay 9% in income taxes otherwise what would happen to the jobs created by building his car elevator in La Jolla?

     

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