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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:23 am, Wed Dec 12, 2012.

It seems that if you are a Democrat, you play by a different set of rules than everyone else. Case in point: Bill Clinton pulled the most despicable sexual acts that one could imagine. The deceit and lies that he told to the American people, "I did not have sex with that woman." The disrespect of his country and his wife was disgusting; however, the people gave him a pass and re-elected him. That says something about the character of many of our citizens.

Now we have a man, Gen. Petraeus, who has given most of his life to the service of his country. He risked his life in combat, and due to a stupid act on his part he was forced to resign from a job that he has excelled in. America needs him because these are perilous times, and we need his knowledge and expertise.

I wonder if it could possibly have something to do with the knowledge he has; maybe of the cover-up in Libya and the possible failure of those who are running our country. Four of our young men who were serving their country were abandoned by their country and murdered — and after two months, we are still waiting for the truth. Let's not let this administration sweep this under the rug. I think we need to know the truth.

Could it have had anything to do with the recent presidential election? Cover-up! What do you think?

Obama continually claims that his presidency is the most transparent ever. I guess I don't know what the word "transparent" means, but I do know that after telling absolute lies like our president does, it is pretty hard for him to remember exactly what he has said. Like the old saying goes, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Sam West

Acampo

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16 comments:

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:07 pm on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrh: I know your pseudo politics...that is the beef...it is called hypocrisy of thought. You do one thing then preach another much like mrl. Short change? Again...mrh I sign the checks the recipients (employed people...unlike you) cash them and PAY their bills, BUY their food, feed their children, help keep others employed and move the economy along. Assinine comments from you are just that asinine.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:50 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1298

    And like all your checks the recipients are short changed I'm sure
    You make this too easy for me
    Pat, you know nothing about me. I don't get your beef.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 10:01 am on Thu, Dec 13, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    HUGE difference tommy...I sign the checks you cash them.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:36 am on Thu, Dec 13, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Heuer stated...Now republicans are engaged in the same kinds of tactics and people are fed up and don't care about Fast and Furious, Benghazi...

    Mr Heuer is so right… Certain people just do not care about anything that gets in the way of their agenda… as long as their leaders have a liberal philosophy, they simply will look the other way no matter the concern. Just look at Bill Clinton who made a career out of abusing woman while he was a married man. At least 20 women were harmed by this man and even today, liberals would reelect this abuser in a heart beat. I think most liberal men would vote for Bill Clinton even if they knew he abused their own wife.

    The ends justifies the means when it comes to Heuer type liberals… they just do not care just like Mr Heuer states.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 7:32 am on Thu, Dec 13, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1298

    Theres no wider tush from sitting than yours Pat

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:14 pm on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2933

    Regurgitating mainstream medai propaganda is not doing your homework Mr. Heuer. Try to digest some truth. [sleeping]

    There are 29 different Syrian “rebel groups” pledging allegiance to the Al-Qaeda affiliated Nusra Front.

    Hillary Clinton has admitted that Al-Qaeda is supporting the Syrian rebels, who are backed by the Obama administration with $200 million dollars in aid (so far).

    In an interview with BBC News (watch video), Clinton states, “We have a very dangerous set of actors in the region, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and those who are on our terrorist list, to be sure, supporting – claiming to support the opposition [in Syria].”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17170775

    Clinton’s admission that Al-Qaeda is supporting the armed insurrection in Syria dovetails with reports that the same Al-Qaeda terrorists who helped overthrow Colonel Gaddafi in Libya were airlifted into Syria by NATO forces.

    http://www.infowars.com/al-qaeda-terrorists-airlifted-from-libya-to-aid-syrian-opposition/

    In reality, the United States is backing an uprising that has placed the imposition of Sharia law and the ultimate destruction of the United States at the core of its long term agenda once Assad is deposed.

    In continuing to fund an uprising that is being led and executed by known terrorists while being supported by their rebel allies, the United States is breaking its own law, the National Defense Authorization Act, which specifically criminalizes support for any “associated forces” of terrorists.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 5:27 pm on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Greed...yep...greed...from people who choose to sit at home on their tushes and collect a government handout...sound familiar mrh?

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:31 pm on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1298

    Ta Da
    Now thats what I call doing your home work.
    Jeff you usually do good reliable work

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:23 pm on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1298

    MR Kinderman
    Now if you are going to repeatedly say republicans lost because of everyone but the conservative white males were a growing gimme, gimme moocher group then the econmic whoes being Bushes fault will live on. The republicans were the reason Bill Clinton got a pass. People were scandal weary from all the bogus investigations into White Water, Vince Foster coupled with government shutdowns and others things that were seen as clearly partisan politics and charades.

    Now republicans are engaged in the same kinds of tactics and people are fed up and don't care about Fast and Furious, Benghazi, (without evidence) Grover Norquist, the debt ceiling fiasco and simply want to focus on the economy particularly the current sequstration. There is blame to go round but because of republican tactics they stand to be blamed. Alot is due to Fox and Rush creating the idea there is an enemy in America that amounts to over half the population. So like Clinton republicans have only themselves to blame. And as polls have shown Obama is seen as inheriting a bad economy and who's at fault? Again republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot and wondering why their feet hurt.

    You try to establish another myth with "Republicans typically stand on the side of hard work and self-reliance. Democrats believe that the government is everyone's "daddy" and that reliance upon it is how America will become great once more." There are thousands of hard working democrats. But there are many republicans on social security and Medicare who also feared the draconian Ryan plan. Hard working people? You bet. Are there dead beat republicans? You bet.

    And the rich don't just follow the rules in the tax code. THEY WRITE THE RULES. Of course they comply with the rules.

    It is not progressivism that is bringing the country down it is greed. Its always been there it has just become institutionalizd. People with money have learned how to grab more wealth at the expense of others. This is not the middle or poverty level people as the wealthy would like you to believe. It is not the unions as moderate income leves like to say. It is just evidenced of one of the methods being used to rob us even further.

    We are not doomed because people are becoming aware of this and once known it will be reigned in. And god has little to do with anything here. Did you see Andrews video posted yesterday? Here:
    http://youtu.be/oZgT1SRcrKE
    It is quite good.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:52 pm on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 539

    'The Obama administration coupled its recognition [of Syrian opposition groups as that country’s legitimate representative] with the designation hours earlier of a militant Syrian rebel group, Al Nusra Front, as a foreign terrorist organization, affiliated with Al Qaeda. '
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/12/us/obama-says-us-will-recognize-syrian-rebels.html?_r=0

    kinda says exactly the opposite of that which you claim.

    'Mr Obama warned that the US would not support extremist elements within the opposition coalition.

    "Not everybody who's participating on the ground in fighting Assad are people who we are comfortable with," he said.

    "There are some who, I think, have adopted an extremist agenda, an anti-US agenda, and we are going to make clear to distinguish between those elements."

    One group he mentioned - the al-Nusra Front - is believed to be linked to al-Qaeda and responsible for nearly 600 violent attacks in major Syrian cities in the past year, the US state department estimates.

    On Tuesday, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton designated the group a foreign terrorist organisation, freezing any assets its members may have in US jurisdictions.'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20690148

    'Obama's announcement follows his administration's blacklisting of a militant Syrian rebel group with links to al-Qaida.'
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/11/us-recognizes-syria-main-rebel-group-obama-says/

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:44 pm on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 539

    Morality and god are not synonymous. Morality and atheism/agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.
    Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation of intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are "good" (or right) and those that are "bad" (or wrong). The philosophy of morality is ethics. A moral code is a system of morality (according to a particular philosophy, religion, culture, etc.) and a moral is any one practice or teaching within a moral code. Morality may also be specifically synonymous with "goodness" or "rightness." Immorality is the active opposition to morality (i.e. opposition to that which is good or right), while amorality is variously defined as an unawareness of, indifference toward, or disbelief in any set of moral standards or principles.[1][2][3][4] An example of a moral code is the Golden Rule which states that, "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:44 am on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2316

    Of course there are "two sets of rules," but it's not the Democrats or Republicans who create them - it's We the People.

    But there's a little problem with Mr. West's history. The news of Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky that resulted in his now infamous finger-wagging lie on national television occurred in 1998 – long after he was re-elected. Whether or not We the People would have given him his second term had full disclosure had been revealed prior to the election is something we'll never know.

    On the other hand, had a Republican incumbent president been running for re-election with the exact record of Barack Hussein Obama and with the economy in such dire straits, there would be no way he/she would have been granted an additional four years. Why? The answer is clear - look at the demographics of those who vote for liberals/progressives. “We the People” have changed. As such, barring some huge calamity, Republicans will never occupy the White House again.

    Republicans typically stand on the side of hard work and self-reliance. Democrats believe that the government is everyone's "daddy" and that reliance upon it is how America will become great once more. Oh, and they also believe that the rich should gladly hand over their money simply because they're told to do so. It doesn't matter that they follow the rules set by the tax code - a thousands-page behemoth created by the government and enforced by the IRS. It is that document that determines what their "fair share" should be. Don't think for one moment that the IRS doesn't go over their returns with a fine-tooth comb to ensure they're obeying it.

    Finally, it is my deep-held opinion that we’re a nation on the down-hill side of our greatness. Morally and ethically we’ve lost our way. We’ve become a nation of “If it feels good, do it.” There are no morals; God no longer has a place in the national discourse. (Check this out if you believe I’m overreacting: http://tinyurl.com/a24c8cd.) We are doomed. Some here have accused me of looking at what has been happening as the glass being half-empty. Well, you betcha I do! It was once full – now the glass’s contents are evaporating under the weight of progressivism. With the re-election of Obama, there’s nothing left to refill it. His dream of transforming America will come true. It’s indeed over, folks.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:51 am on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2933

    Do you think Mr. Heuer knows that just yesterday President Obama said that the United States would formally recognize al-Queda as Syria's legitimate reresentative? [lol]

    Of course he doesn't... [sleeping]

    The Benghazi/Petraeus ignorance displayed by Mr. Heuer can only be described as willfull Darrell. [rolleyes]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:17 am on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr. Heuer stated...Gen. Petraeus chose to resign he wasn't forced to resign.

    It is unfortunate to learn there are still people, no matter how old they get, still believe in the tooth fairy and other fairy tales. For some, maybe that is a good thing as sometimes reality can be a cruel teacher. Sometimes, living in a fantasy can be comforting. Evidently, Mr. Heuer is in comfort and blissful. Fortunate man is he.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 8:53 am on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1298

    Gen. Petraeus chose to resign he wasn't forced to resign.
    When you ask questions like do you think it could be this or do you think it could be that your pretty arrogant to believe you are the only one to ask those questions as the investigation continues. As far as transparency goes it is not always a single persons choice. Others involved may not want the transparency or what is necessary for transparency cameras, makeup, microphones , etc . do more to distrack from the business at hand. Speculative questions are time wasters and only lead to misinformation before the facts come out.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:22 am on Wed, Dec 12, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    My grandmother said: If you tell a lie you will have to tell seven more and then start over. BO is on his fifth go-round and tenth start-over.

     

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