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Posted: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:00 am

These past few months are no longer about Republicans or Democrats. I am bewildered at the American people and why more folks have not stood up in support of our fundamental rights. Let’s just focus on three issues: Benghazi, the IRS, and the illegal subpoena and monitoring of James Rosen and other journalists.

For a candidate who ran on transparency and becoming the government of the people, President Obama has a strange way of delivering those promises. If indeed he doesn’t know anything about any of these chilling events, that is even more alarming. As Americans we are seeing a pattern of activity, and it has no longer become just isolated deception.

The IRS spent $50 million on conferences, including seminars on art and lessons on line dancing, while many Americans are cutting back on most non-essentials. Now this president wants to increase the budget of the IRS to enforce Obamacare and to decide who pays a penalty for not having the proper health insurance coverage. Fellow Americans, this is our money they are spending. The head of the IRS was at the White House 157 times. That is more than any IRS leader has ever been before, and more than any other vital leader of our government.

This arrogance of power should be alarming to each and every one of us.

Republicans, please take a stand; Independents, it’s time to come forward and speak out; and Democrats, this is a whole new party, this is not the party of Kennedy. We are experiencing Big Government, and they believe they are more important than the people.

Joel Wilson


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  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:10 pm on Fri, Jul 5, 2013.

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  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:07 pm on Fri, Jul 5, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Douglas Shulman’s March 2012 statement already has been flattened by the truth and he did visit the White House at least 157 times, it's public record for heavens sake.

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:30 pm on Fri, Jul 5, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    For heavens sake Ms. Bobin...Last year we reported on how Russian troops were invited to the US as part of a Fort Carson, Colorado drill focused around anti-terror training. Aside from learning how to target terrorists in America, the Russian soldiers were also out in the local community attending a baseball game in Colorado Springs.
    [sleeping] http://www.infowars.com/russian-troops-to-target-terrorists-in-america-as-part-of-drill/

    I understand though, denial offers comforts you find appealing...[lol]

    Here is a link to the press release by the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense and Emergencies.
    [sleeping] http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/

    If you become able to take off your blinders you might try reading State Department Publication 7277, which is a blueprint for the harmonization of US and Russian forces under a framework of United Nations-led global government.
    [sleeping] http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 6:18 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1674


  • Walter Chang posted at 5:35 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1189

    "Those of us in the minority"

    Jerry's frightening political, spiritual and cultural reality.

    Good luck.

    YOU will need it!


  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:54 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1674

    See Mr Wilson is an example of what I repeatedly say about the hysterically emotional hyperbol of right wing extremists. They hear the garbage on Fox and Rush and Infowars and they believe what they hear is factual and now can't understand why the intelligent people aren't as equally worked up as they are. As I have said before intelligence (and academia) is often mistaken for liberalism. Its confusing for them.

    There are a variety of human behaviors ranging from kindness and caring to decietfulness and harmfulness. Conservative only see the world as the later except for their like-minded confederates. The blacks, women, hispanic, LGBT folks, atheists, muslims, liberals, communists, jews, socialists, government workers, teachers, are all fostering agendas that are despotic plots aimed at some form of take over and the enslavement of Americans. Anyone listening to this that has presence of mind says this is insane. Within these groups is a majority of Americans that the measly handful of conservatives left should have already had their property confiscated and forced to live in fenced (gitmo) gettos.

    What is liberal is the recognition that everyone has the rights of the constitution. Little by little it is always a struggle with conservatives to accept that all means all including Afreican Americans, hispanic Americans, women, LGBT Americans,native Americans that has taken decades if not over a century to finally achieve and they have complained kicking and dragging their feet saying it's destroying the country. Yet they profess to be defenders of the constitution. And if the SCOTUS grants people rights that they constitutionally are entitled to the SCOTUS is way oyt of line. They prefer to give citizenship to coorporations before they give it to all people. If you have a religion that says you are free to take other peoples property it wouldn't be allowed because it is against the law. Just as discrimintion is against the law so to should religious believes promoting discrimination be outlawed. Your beliefs are your believes but if they break the law they shouldn't be acted on. You can be racist or biggted (like so many) but you can't put into practice your predjudice.

    BTW Transparency is a two way street. The people you are dealing with often don't like transparency and to do business with them you need to follow their wishes. Also you have to have maturity to hear the truth. If you are given a fact and you then decide to twist it into something other than the truth (Fox cable) to get campaign or opportunistic sellable points then you will find the truth couched in veiled rhetoric. To complain about Obamas supposedly lack of transparency brings the Jack Nicoleson movie pronouncment "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth." Full transparency also garners law suits.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:54 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    This is BS and you know it, Andrew.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:51 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Incorrect, Andrew. Check out the facts: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/the-fake-story-about-the-irs-commissioner-and-the-white-house/276399/

    Note the story title: FAKE STORY

    Maybe once in your life you can make the distinction between reality and fantasy.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:38 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1674


  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:37 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

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    no he did not.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:34 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1674


  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:35 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

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  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:31 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    FYI, Mr. Wilson, the "head" of the IRS was not at the White House 157 times (the number varies depending on the source), but he was on the list of "authorized" visitors, but there is no evidence that he actually went to the White House for those scheduled meetings except for maybe less than a dozen.

    People like this believe that visitors to the White House have only ONE destination - the Oval Office. If the president, ANY president, had the time to attend all of the meetings scheduled at the White House, he wouldn't have time to run the country.
    Really, get some intelligence and stop writing ill-informed letters that only go to show you repeat what you hear.

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:36 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999



    Publicly released records show that former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman visited the White House at least 157 times, more recorded visits than even the most trusted members of the president’s Cabinet.

    Shulman had more recorded visits to the White House than HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (48), DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano (34), Education Secretary Arne Duncan (31), former Energy Secretary Steven Chu (22) and former Defense Secretary Robert Gates (17) combined.

  • John Lucas posted at 8:33 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

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    [smile] [thumbup]

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:24 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The use of foreign troops inside the United States is illegal under Posse Comitatus.

    But as the transformation of our nation moves "FORWARD" the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry, FEMA and the Obama regime have requested at least 15,000 Russian troops to be pre-positioned to FEMA Region III.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:15 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Again with "Barack Hussein Obama" and the "transformation of our nation."

    Prove what this transformation is once and for all and then give it a rest along with all of your other claims, Mr. Kinderman.

    And please, stop the nonsense about the middle name. We all know what your goal is, along with every other right winger who feels compelled to remind the public that Obama's middle name is "Hussein."

    And really, I think you get some type of "thrill" from quoting Chris Matthews.


  • Jeff Tillett posted at 8:00 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

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  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 7:28 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

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    Mr. Wilson, I think what you’ve been experiencing is the reality of one of Barack Hussein Obama’s campaign promises that he’s actually following through on: the transformation of our nation. The truly sad part about this is that no one who blithely voted for him in 2008 and 2012 along with the majority of the media simply didn’t ask what this transformation would entail. Those of us in the minority felt the shiver down our collective spines (totally unlike the tingle up Chris Matthews’ leg) with just the notion of what he might have had on his mind then. Now that it’s all coming to fruition, now we know - and for the most part it isn’t good. Worse than that, we all know we’ve still got three and a half years to go. And without worrying about another election for him, President Obama is practically free to transform with impunity. Oh goody!

  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:23 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Very imporessive it takes Fox news hours to cover all that ground Joel is not nearly as entertaining but I guess I can skip Rush today I just got all the talking points in one concise letter.


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