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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 5:27 am, Sat Jun 30, 2012.

Concerning President Obama's recent executive order creating amnesty for certain illegal aliens: Just how compassionate is it to split families by keeping the kids and deporting the parents?

Bill Henshaw

Lodi

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19 comments:

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:34 pm on Tue, Jul 10, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Walter Stated...So it's fine for the president to lie? No “And you're concerned I would dare to point out he lies?” Not at all. Have fun.

    Have fun? No thank you Walter. However, please do feel comfortable in having fun yourself. You deserve it. right?

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 11:05 am on Tue, Jul 3, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1112

    Darrell, you misunderstood me. I was initially referring to Brian’s soul.

    I was suggesting that he should be concerned with his own fate on judgment day.

    After he replied back, I merely answered the questions he asked me.

    “So it's fine for the president to lie? No “And you're concerned I would dare to point out he lies?” Not at all. Have fun.

    Brian was mixing politics and religion – poking fun, so to speak, in his post.

    I simply played off his ignorance of Christianity.

    Each of us are only responsible for our own actions.

    You surmise correctly, God is forgiving. But only to the repentant!


     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:27 am on Tue, Jul 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Chang stated to Brian... Have fun! ( in reference to Brian asking if he was concerned about pointing out Obama's obvious lies.)

    Odd... I never thought of pointing out lies as fun. In my view it is patriotic to point out lies that government officials like Obama makes on a daily basis. It is not fun, but appropriate.

    I do agree with Mr Chang that Obama will be just fine as I understand that god is forgiving to people.

    I do wonder however what the consequence will eventually be for people like Mr Chang who enable people like Obama to use their lies for their personal benefit.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:58 am on Tue, Jul 3, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1112

    Brian, no, not at all. Have fun!

    But maybe you should be thinking more about the perils of h-e-l-l too ??

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 12:54 am on Tue, Jul 3, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Walter wrote:

    Brian, the President will be fine. But you on the other hand...

    I would be concerned!

    -Walter, so it's fine for the president to lie? And you're concerned I would dare to point out he lies?

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 9:25 pm on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1112

    Joe, yesterday we discussed briefly some of your concerns.

    There were the fiscal and government spending issues..

    And then there was the moral and liberalism - ideology issues.

    Tonight you're talking about the afterlife and the perils of h-e-l-l.

    Yesterday you were rationalizing away the need to be concerned about Abortion.

    Maybe you should be thinking more about the perils of h-e-l-l?

    Brian, the President will be fine. But you on the other hand...

    I would be concerned!


     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:04 pm on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Uh Huh,

    And Apparently,President Obama, as a self-proclaimed Christian man,definately does not understand the seriousness of lying. He, apparently, thinks he can tell as many lies as he wishes and still be forgiven on Judgment Day. Hence, why he believes he is the annointed One.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:57 pm on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Mr. Kinderman, if what BOBBIN says is true about where you will end up in the afterlife, I suggest you watch it verrry carefully. You wouldn't want to spend an eternity in a world full of liberal liars would you? The thought of spending your eternal afterlife in the midst of people like BillyBob Clinton, Barry OweBama, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Holder, et al would be as HELLISH as it gets.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:50 am on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    And please, spare us all the BS about the "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" explanation. I can guarantee that you NEVER refered to George Walker Bush as "George Walker Bush," or George Herbert Walker Bush as "George Herbert Walker Bush."

    Another lie that will be your Waterloo at the Pearly Gates.

    Oh, to be a fly on the gate at that moment!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:46 am on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Kinderman wrote:

    "According to the laws currently on the books, what should happen to those who are here illegally? (hint: they should be rounded up and sent back to their country of origin)

    What happens now as a result of President Barack Hussein Obama's Executive Order? (hint: they get to stay in this country indefinitely)

    All together now, what does that spell for them? (hint: A-M-N-E-S-T-Y!)"

    Apparently, Mr. Kinderman, as a self-proclaimed Christian man, does not understand the seriousness of lying. He, apparently, thinks he can tell as many lies as he wishes and still be forgiven on Judgment Day.

    Good luck with that, Mr. Kinderman. Your future seems to be "heating up" mightily.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:21 am on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    They get first dibs at all the taxpayer funded social programs and we're not supposed to question that, according to Ms. Bobbin.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:18 am on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Ms. Bobbin wrote:

    First - this is not "amnesty." Not even close. Not a path to citizenship, either.

    -Quit splitting hairs Ms. Bobbin. You know darn well Obama's decison will make it much easier for these people to go down the path to citizenship.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:38 pm on Sun, Jul 1, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Ms. Bobbin wrote:

    If this is a comment from a conservative acting as though he is compassionate about illegal alien children being separated from their parents, then Mr. Heneshaw falls far from the mark.

    Chuckle,

    It's mostly conservatives who don't want Illegal alien children being spearated from their parents based on the fact it's mostly conservatives who are doing more to keep them from coming over here. Liberals tend to have the philosophy that if we keep the border pourous those coming over here illegally will take what they learned back with them to Mexico to better the conditions down there so others will not make the same mistake they did by coming up here illegally.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:22 pm on Sun, Jul 1, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    I wonder how Ms. Bobin would react to someone living in her house free of charge and the laws on the books demanded she support them or face being arrested?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:02 pm on Sun, Jul 1, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    The vast majority of the people who immigrate to this country have to go through the motions of getting their legal status before they step foot here. So, the question should be:
    Should those willing to wait in line to become legal immigrants have compassion for those who enter here illegally and get a free hand at the social services before they do?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:34 am on Sun, Jul 1, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Just how compassionate is it to split families by keeping the kids and deporting the parents

    Not compassionate at all...good point...

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 1:44 am on Sun, Jul 1, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2349

    According to the laws currently on the books, what should happen to those who are here illegally? (hint: they should be rounded up and sent back to their country of origin)

    What happens now as a result of President Barack Hussein Obama's Executive Order? (hint: they get to stay in this country indefinitely)

    All together now, what does that spell for them? (hint: A-M-N-E-S-T-Y!)

    But what does this spell for President Barack Hussein Obama: (V-O-T-E-S!)

     
  • Sam Heller posted at 8:30 pm on Sat, Jun 30, 2012.

    Sam Heller Posts: 176

    Amnesty?? Oh Bill, I think you are listening to those talking heads. Use the internet and educate yourself on what really happened.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:37 am on Sat, Jun 30, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    If this is a comment from a conservative acting as though he is compassionate about illegal alien children being separated from their parents, then Mr. Heneshaw falls far from the mark.

    Most likely another poor soul who has no idea what he is talking about.

    First - this is not "amnesty." Not even close. Not a path to citizenship, either.

    This is the kind of ignorance generated by columnists such as Joe Guzzardi and his misleading and fabricated "facts."

     

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