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Posted: Saturday, March 1, 2014 12:00 am

I want to direct this letter to all of the inconsiderate drivers in Lodi — and they know who they are. You are the ones who don’t use your signal when turning onto another street or when you make unsafe lane changes.

This is also directed to those of you who put your signal on just as you are about to turn, instead of turning it on 500 feet before you turn as instructed by the Department of Motor Vehicles.

Of course, we also must mention those of you who don’t know what a STOP sign means as you roll through it. And there are those people who come up behind you when you have your backup lights on and are trying to pull out of a parking space and they are too impatient to wait for you so they drive right behind you — nearly causing an accident.

Finally, we can’t leave out the people who drive with one headlight burned out, and the people who, when it is raining, do not turn on their headlights when their wipers are on. This is a state law!

People, please, what has happened to our consideration for others? Do you appreciate it when someone uses their turn signal? Then you should be using yours. It’s called common courtesy, and it’s something we don’t see anymore.

My car has been in the repair shop three times in the last two months, and I’m tired of it. Can we please start paying attention when we get behind the wheel, and watch out for each other?

Betty Peters

Lodi

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24 comments:

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 3:13 pm on Sat, Mar 8, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    Ran into a great example of a driver lacking consideration today. She decided to brake down to 20mph in a 45 to gawk at someone getting a ticket. So I had to brake and the guy behind me and the one behind them and so on. These people that like to gawk at other people's misery CAUSE accidents without being in them.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 8:02 am on Wed, Mar 5, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    You are correct, I am in favor of wearing a helmet. I will never ride a motorcycle OR Bicycle without my helmets.

    I DO believe thou that it should be up to the rider if they wear one or not. The catch is, if I had the power, that ay injuries sustained that helmet would have prevented would not be covered by insurance.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:59 am on Wed, Mar 5, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    My mistake, I was unclear. I didn't mean people were blaming THESE bikers, and the driver is facing charges. I meant in general I hear that bikers put their lives at risk just by being on the road. That it is hazardous, stupid and I even occasionally hear "they deserve it" from those that are anti-biker.

    Look at what Mr. Walter said "Riding a motor in the rain is even more of an accident waiting to happen. Being tailgated on a motor, as a rule its the other way around, or lane splitting at 80 MPH" Did you catch the "EVEN MORE"? That sounds like blaming the biker in an accident t me.

    Another one from him, "Riding on 99 or I-5 is asking for a one way trip to the morgue. Your wrong when you state bike riders don`t ride over their heads since they do, since 90% of insane riders lane split, or in and out of traffic or the side of the road, bike riders don`t know Jack." Sorry, but this is putting the blame for bad things, even death, on the BIKER and not the people running us over.

    Darrell, you even admitted to driving distracted as an advantage to a car over a motorcycle. That distracted diving is why drivers don't see us when they turn right in front of us. "The only reason I'm able to tune my radio, drink a cup of coffee or talk on my cell phone (using my Bluetooth device through my radio) is I have an extra hand to do these things with."

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 7:31 pm on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    From reading the article I don’t see where the reporter was placing any fault on the motorcycle or is driver and rider. Considering that charges are pending against the driver of the SUV, what more could you possibly want Mr. Paglia? The accompanying video also didn’t indicate that anyone other than the 71-year-old driver were at fault. Of course since the driver and rider of the motorcycle were both pronounced dead at the scene, no one else could possibly be charged. But could there have been other factors that led to their deaths?

    In Florida one must be at least 21-years-old and carrying at least $10,000.00 worth of medical insurance to be able to operate or ride upon a motorcycle without a helmet. (http://www.abateflorida.com/helmet-law-faq.php) No, neither the article nor the video revealed much more than basic facts, but could the motorcycle riders possibly have put themselves at risk if they chose to ride without helmets? For some unknown reason (to me at least) one comment attributed to this story indicated that both riders were sans helmets.

    Here in California it doesn’t matter how old one is or how much insurance they’re carrying - everyone MUST wear a helmet. There are arguments on both sides of the issue, but no matter what I would always wear a helmet if I were to again choose to ride even from my home to the grocery store. After all, it doesn’t take driving at 65+ miles-per-hour on the freeway to get one’s head obliterated.

    Mr. Paglia, I believe you’ve indicated in the past that you are in favor of wearing a helmet; am I correct?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:53 pm on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Kevin the article said nothing about blaming the bikers and that charges were pending for the SUV driver

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:31 pm on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Three times in two months? What are the odds?"

    I would have thought that Mr. Kinderman had already learned his lesson from his previous excursion with "blaming the victim," i.e., the poor lady he lambasted for having her house burglarized twice in a short period of time - apparently, at least according to his guest column, she found his phone number and set him straight.

    Let's see how Betty reacts.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:58 am on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    Case in point. This just came across my timeline feed. Lady turned right in front of the motorcycle and killed two people. But rather than condemn this kind of inattentive, distracted driving, people say it is the bikers "fault" for riding on a motorcycle.

    http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/PCB-Crash-Kills-Two-Local-Residents-248355451.html

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:45 am on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    [crying]

    It is obvious that motorcycle riders are still lumped in with the worst riders. Those are the rare exceptions, not the standard for bikers. I spend some FB time talking with fellow bikers and a very large majority of them all agree that riding with the rule of the road is the best way to ride. We see the same news stories of idiots on bikes doing stupid things and we get as upset ,if not more, as you. We also see stories like thesehttp://www.kpho.com/story/20114060/judge-sentences-dump-truck-driver-who-killed-4-motorcyclists

    I have had "discussions" with Street bike riders who say riding at 120mph gives them more "control". I think worse things of them than most cagers. Mainly cause when they fly by you at that speed, then you encounter me on the road, you (collective) lump m is as being just like them.

    More and more "Bikers" are like Wild Hogs (movie) than Sons of Anarchy (TV), BUT society sees us all as SOA types. Did you know that bikers, as a subculture give more to charities than any other group?

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:28 am on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    "It's also difficult to have a conversation with whoever might be riding in the passenger seat of a motorcycle. Now just what is that clever name motorcyclists have given to that seat - nice."

    You mean the "king and Queen" seats? Cause when my wife rides behind me she rides "queen".

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:24 am on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    Corvettes may not be able to split lanes but I have seen plenty of them playing "traffic Tetris", squeezing into every little gap the can fit into to save half a second.

    My bike is a 2005 VTX1300. A great midsize cruiser. In the middle of modifying it to make it more me including louder pipes so al those cagers on their cell phones can hear me.

    I don't know WHO you rode with, but the people I drive with do the speed of traffic and obey traffic laws better than most drive. Not saying there aren't bad riders out there but they are far rarer than those that ride with the laws of the road in mind. Oh, Lane splitting IS legal in California when done at low speeds as in traffic jams.

    And when it comes time I will ride a trike with pride. And I will modify that one as well to make it more ME as well.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:17 am on Tue, Mar 4, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    So you see all the distraction IN a car as their advantage? Bikers are killed every day by people enjoying the distractions you listed.

    Bikers ride to get AWAY from all those distractions. And with new intercom systems we can talk to everyone else in the group on that channel.

    As for facing the danger of being on a bike, I would rather live my life enjoying it and all it can be than to live in fear. I also cycle and run on the roads around Lodi. Any day a cager can be fiddling with the radio and kill me. But I will no cower at home, afraid to live.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:18 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    Mr. Paglia, just what do you mean that those of us who do not drive a motorcycle have no sense of our own mortality. That's rather arrogant, don't you think?

    The only reason I'm able to tune my radio, drink a cup of coffee or talk on my cell phone (using my Bluetooth device through my radio) is I have an extra hand to do these things with. You're limited because not only are you steering your vehicle with your hands, you also operate half of your braking system along with your accelerator. Add to that you use both of your feet as well. If you weren't so limited I'd bet you'd at least be sipping on a cup of coffee or some cold drink on a hot day out there without the "cage" keeping the sun off of your body.

    I've owned a couple of motorcycles during my lifetime. I've never become a true fan mostly because driving on the freeway scares me to death. However, in town and especially on country roads I did find a sense of enjoyment with the wind blowing in my face. But other than that, I certainly did understand that I was putting myself at greater risk without the safety of the cage that only an automobile or truck can provide. And as I am sure your know, one doesn't need to be driving at a very high rate of speed to lose their life in a motorcycle accident.

    There are other short-comings insofar as motorcycles are concerned too; such as the inability to carry much in or on it. It's also difficult to have a conversation with whoever might be riding in the passenger seat of a motorcycle. Now just what is that clever name motorcyclists have given to that seat - nice.

    No, I prefer the safety and enjoyment derived from driving my 2004 Grand Am - what a fun little car it is too! I sure wish they still made those. Sometimes I think about getting another motorcycle, but then I realize that I've faced my own mortality through different diseases and other maladies - I don't need to put myself at extreme risk on purpose out on the freeway.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 4:57 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 609

    Paglia: Concerning Corvettes drivers, we care about our Vettes as much or more as you do about riding on two wheels. They, or at least me do not drive like a crazy man, to much to loose, including a speeding ticket. A vette can`t do everything a bike can do, for one, we can`t lane split, and can only go as fast as the car in front of us. You never said what kind of bike you ride, does it have a motor taken out of an old lawn mower, most likely has at least 3 wheels since they are needed for older riders to keep from fall over at stop lights. [beam]

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 3:03 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 609

    Robins, you are wrong, you can take all the pics you want, however a police officer must see the problem in order to take any recourse. Taking a pic of a license plate won`t do you anygood. Besides, the person you took a pic of might not like the idea and retaliate, its not safe on the mean streets of any town anymore, not that there ever was.

     
  • Ted Lauchland posted at 12:36 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 261

    I've riden motorcycles - people do not see you. Driven tractors - people do not have the patience for you. Driven trucks pulling trailers - people try to beat you by pulling in front of you so they don't get caught behind you that kicks the lack of patience thing in again. Me, me & me continues to come on strong.

    I have always preached that the laws are designed to make cars more predictable.
    Since when has it ever been acceptable to only be concerned about your own vehicle. You have always needed to drive not only yours but every car around you too with their experience or lack thereof. Cars in the distance, road conditions and visibility all are factors as well. The idjut on the road is a guarantee.

    The bottom line in driving is - -------- Do Not Hit Anything or Anyone ! If the odds have appeared to be stacked against you recently it is time for a re-evaluation of your own driving habits.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 12:22 pm on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 609

    Paglia, I rode motors for over 30 years, so I know as much or more about them as you do. Though I date myself, a 650cc BSA was the best motor I ever rode. My last one was a Honda 650cc Thumper, great bike until I got cut off one to many times and sold it, never to ride again. Riding on 99 or I-5 is asking for a one way trip to the morgue. Your wrong when you state bike riders don`t ride over their heads since they do, since 90% of insane riders lane split, or in and out of traffic or the side of the road, bike riders don`t know Jack. Look at the latest Honda, stero sound, GPS, all the riders need is a Big Mac.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:09 am on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    Really Mr. Robins, you actually believe that by acting as an agent for the police department by taking pictures of license plates of cars who may or may not be tailgating you will actually result in a ticket?

    And I thought it was just the police who were becoming more intrusive.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 8:57 am on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    Robert, Café Racer army favorite kind of bike. I dream about building one myself. Well, as much as I can myself. I have a cruiser but it is a good distance bike, I want something for rung errands in Lodi and Stockton, which means nimble to get out of the way of all those crazy Corvette drivers that think their expensive car justifies bad driving.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 7:42 am on Mon, Mar 3, 2014.

    mason day Posts: 458

    ...and what are you laughing at? That might be the truth![beam] Seriously though, I've been rear-ended a few times on a motorcycle by tailgating sedan jockeys' and twice on 2 separate occasions on 2 different motorcycles it was within an hour after I repaired and replaced the damaged parts from the last rear-end jobs. [angry]Ed,since you are an expert about motorcycles, come join us at caferacers.net, and share your knowledge and experience. [beam]

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:25 pm on Sun, Mar 2, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    Walters, it is clear you know NOTHNG abut riding motorcycle other than to judge us all by the actions of a very few.

    Motorcycists who lane split at 80mph are disliked by 90%+ of bikers as well cause they give us al a bad reputation as you just proved.

    Motorcyclists, again for the vast majority of us, don't tailgate cause we have all seen what happens when the car slows.

    And Just cause YOU don't like Motorcycles on the road doesn't mean we shouldn't be there. "Cager" (car drivers) who are busy talking on heir phones, playing with the radio, eating a Big Mac or whatever else OTHER distraction they play with, THOSE are the accident waiting to happen. Biker's know their own mortality, Cagers do NOT.

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 11:52 am on Sun, Mar 2, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 434

    [lol]

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 7:00 pm on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 609

    Paglia: Next time you post, you might want to check your post before sending. Riding a motor in the rain is even more of an accident waiting to happen. Being tailgated on a motor, as a rule its the other way around, or lane splitting at 80 MPH.

    And to Betty Peters, if you don`t like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:59 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    I agree with the author that there are many drivers who ignore the rules of the road and do not avail themselves to “common courtesy” as well. But I have to wonder why her vehicle “. . . has been in the repair shop three times in the last two months.” Are these visits really in response to others’ failure to obey the law? I’ve been on the very same roads and highways for many years amongst those very same scofflaws and have yet to have my car in the repair shop for anything they might have (or have not) done.

    I learned long ago to be a “defensive driver.” Sure, I’ve come close to an accident due to someone quickly changing lanes without their turn signal; but I’m always cognizant of what others are doing so that I won’t collide with them. Three times in two months? What are the odds?

    Nevertheless, I have another example of people not obeying the law that bothers me. The rules at four-way stop signs are simple: the first one at the intersection after stopping has the right of way to proceed. In case of a “tie,” the driver to the right gets to go first. Now while I think there are those who might think it courteous to give up their “right” to proceed based upon the rules by waving someone through, this actually causes confusion. Too many times I’ve seen this occur and the result has been two or more vehicles move into the intersection at the same time. As for those who actually believe that slowing down to one mile per hour constitutes a “stop,” I just let them roll through. There’s no sense arguing with stupidity and/or rudeness; no one wins.

    If we all simply follow the rules, the chances of an accident are reduced exponentially.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:27 am on Sat, Mar 1, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2081

    Let's not forget the Ones that drive 10 mph UDER the speed limit then speed through the school zone, been seeing this a lot on Harney.

    Or those that wait until the last second to change lanes into the one they need to be in.

    I have also started running into a rash of drivers who ignore THEIR right of way and wave me through. A friend in UK posted a warning that scammers there are sing this tactic then hitting the other driver in an insurance scam.

    Last one will mention are those that tailgate me on my motorcycle. I was riding in the rain, had no choice as I had an appointment to have I serviced. Cars were following me on I-5 less than car lengths behind. Even on dry days this is bad as if I need to sow for a turn your car will roll right over me

     

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