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Posted: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:44 am, Tue Apr 3, 2012.

Excuse me! Unbelievable! In an environment of school layoffs and the district only spending 15 percent of its budget on the kids, the Lodi Unified School District is considering hiring a chef to "design recipes" and teach district cooks how to cook at an estimated cost of $130,000 per year — according to a News-Sentinel article of March 28.

Then, in the same article, an insert states that the district is going to borrow from the 2012-2013 school year budget to compensate for state shortfalls in payments. Give me a break!

The district cannot afford a chef. No, not when it is failing in its primary mission of teaching our children. Consider: In math, English and social studies, an average of 10,000 students — roughly one-third of the total student enrollment — are receiving Ds and Fs in each of these subjects. Why isn't the school board tackling this primary failing in its charter instead of worrying about the culinary tastes of its failing students?

Ed Miller

Lodi

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36 comments:

  • Mike Adams posted at 8:58 am on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    "Now if I were to post a comment where I said there were starving children somewhere (anywhere) that were being refused food by let's say a Democrat, wouldn't I be expected to identify who and where these children were? And then if I then responded that it is impossible to identify them wouldn't I then be called a liar?"

    What are you talking about? This makes no sense.

    "If I were a teacher...". The important thing here is you are not a teacher, and therefore lack the required training and expertise (and experience) to even begin to address the issue of hungry children, in or out of the classroom and especially the lack of ability to recognize students who are hungry. I get the impression you think hungry children go around in tattered clothes, dirty faces, worn out shoes...the kind of stereotypical images you pick up from watching too much TV.

    Hungry children mostly look like well fed children. There are many signs that a child who hasn't had anything to eat, mostly subtle, individual behaviors can be taken out of context, but the collection of behaviors taken together tend to point to a child who is chronically hungry. I'm not talking about some kid who didn't get his pop tarts this morning....but the child who doesn't even have pop tarts in the house. Or milk. Or bread.

    Further this quote: "“Starving” children don’t give a hoot about learning – how could they be? As a result they’d be either sleeping at their desks or they’d be misbehaving." --- reveals a level of ignorance typical of someone who went to school and thinks they know all about education now. Your continued use of the term "starving" shows you don't know the difference between never getting food versus not getting enough food on a regular basis. Hungry children want to learn to. Hungry children want to do well also. Hungry children don't always misbehave. They lack the energy. Between a child who is hungry and one that is well fed, my experience says the well child is far more apt to misbehave. And as I've stated before (and yet to be refuted by anyone here..who knows anything about the subject), hungry children don't want others to know they didn't have breakfast or dinner the night before or lunch or anything to eat. You're not going to park in front of Lodi High School trying to identify kids who didn't have anything to eat for a day or two. At least you shouldn't. The friends at LPD would really want to know what you're doing there. They aren't going to believe you're there to identify hungry kids. As they tell you to watch your head as you slide into the back seat of their patrol car you can thank them for the fine job their doing. Seriously, this would be a good job on their part.

    Roy...a $132K chef?? Look, there is all sorts of money out there that is available for
    specific purposes. If Lodi doesn't take advantage of it, someone else will. I don't know if LUSD just wants to spend $132K on a chef. I suspect the letter writer has made some statements that are misunderstood or just wrong. If the federal government wants to make this money available for LUSD, it should take it. Not taking it only means someone else will. The agency making this money available isn't going to think "LUSD doesn't want this money..they think it's a waste of money..maybe we should spend this on something else". They are going to think "LUSD didn't apply for this money, let's give it to GJUHS (Galt)"

    And Roy, thanks for getting it right. Even if you disagree with me, you didn't try and make it a liberal conservative thing or a "let's say a democrat" thing. You show an understanding of the problem, like many others here and aren't blinded by partisanship.

     
  • roy bitz posted at 8:49 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    roy bitz Posts: 500

    ALL LUSD. students are provided Free breakfast and many get free lunch.
    Now we are talking about spending tax payer money to hire a executive chef for the district @ $132k a year.
    This money would come from a "federal grant".
    In addition to free food at school, families in need qualify for a number of opportunities to free food---surplus food is made available and many families qualify for free grocery store food cards.
    I have no doubt there are some hungry kids in Lodi---there have always been some
    hungry kids here and everywhere but not because there are no options for needy.
    This article is about an idea to hire an executive chef at $132,000 .
    Do you think this is a good idea?

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:08 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Now if I were to post a comment where I said there were starving children somewhere (anywhere) that were being refused food by let's say a Democrat, wouldn't I be expected to identify who and where these children were? And then if I then responded that it is impossible to identify them wouldn't I then be called a liar?

    Unbelievable.

    If I were a teacher, one of the things I would be on the lookout for (in addition to physical abuse of one of my students) is whether or not they’re awake and ready to learn. “Starving” children don’t give a hoot about learning – how could they be? As a result they’d be either sleeping at their desks or they’d be misbehaving. Either way, I’d surely be able to identify them so as to begin to help.

    So once again, where are these starving children? Any teachers out there willing to help me out with this one?

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 2:10 pm on Thu, Apr 5, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    JOANNE BOBIN posted "they are eating the kind of junk that is available for great prices at the Super WalMart."
    How cognizant is that? Joanne just found the REAL cause of all the children in America being overweight- WalMart !! Excellent observation Joanne, excellent. All along I thought that it was McDonalds, Taco Bell, Burger King, Wendy's, Jack in the Box, 7-11's, and parents that have no clue about nutrition for their children and probably don't much care what they eat coupled with a lack of exercise that was the underlying cause of child obesity.
    But Joanne figured out the REAL scoop. Thanks, Joanne.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 8:44 am on Thu, Apr 5, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    So you have to be a member in order to get services? Have churches gone the "KaIser" model of providing services. I'm not religious, but when I did attend church, and in the many years since, I don't recall there being a qualifying condition in serving humanity.

    None should take offense, except those who are pontificating and not encouraging their congregations to do something.

    Also, maybe we can grind that moto off the Statue of Liberty. The one about being tired and hungry. Or add a caveat:: "Members Only"

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:22 am on Thu, Apr 5, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mike stated... where are all these churches and non-profits who could be assisting? Where are they? Why aren't theypracticing what they preach?

    Mike... I think you just insulted many good people who are attending to their members.
    Other than this, Ill give you the last word.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:43 am on Thu, Apr 5, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    Darrell:
    "The left is famous for exaggerating and making a problem appear much bigger than it is so to justify another government program."
    " I stated that an article stated there was not just an obesity problem, but an epidemic... that means it is pervasive and a wide spread problem."
    Apparently the right feels ok to behave the same?

    An inclination to over indulge, to eat all the wrong food, in huge amounts is not the opposite of or contrary to children coming to school hungry.

    Obesity is many times the result of lifestyle choices that become habits. Children going to school who are hungry is an economic problem, that being no money to buy food.

    These two are not opposites and can't be used as some sort of juxtaposition proving that children are going hungry. I find it very hard to believe you don't get the difference between the two. Jerome yes, blinded by his unwaivering belief in all things conservative, you, no.

    And again, if community non-profits, churches, whatever, if their participation in feeding the hungry would alleviate the problem, if conservatives didn't always point to churches and non-profits as the solution, where are all these churches and non-profits who could be assisting? Where are they? Why aren't theypracticing what they preach?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:58 pm on Wed, Apr 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin... as normal, your post is so far off base that... Ill just say... no other comment.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:56 pm on Wed, Apr 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    .Mike stated...Darrell:You are taking a separate problem and using it out of context. Yes there is an obesity problem in youth in the USA today.

    Mike, never stated there were not some children that were hungry. I stated that an article stated there was not just an obesity problem, but an epidemic... that means it is pervasive and a wide spread problem. So much so, that the government has in recent years reclassified obesity as a disease in order to give tax advantages to expenses fighting the over weight problem. For example, if a doctor now says in writing that you are obese, the IRS will let a person write off Gym membership where 5 years ago, you could not.
    If you read carefully what I said, I stated that many parents would ask where are the hungry children since so many are dealing with obesity. The left is famous for exaggerating and making a problem appear much bigger than it is so to justify another government program.

    Lastly, if there are hungry children, by showing exactly who and where they are, we can better deal with the problem. How can private sector help if we cannot find these children? So I agree with Mr Kinderman. Where are these children. Identify specifics. Government should not be the only solution.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:43 am on Wed, Apr 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    The sycophantic Mr. Baumbach wrote: "Mr Kinderman stated... where are the starving children... evidently, there are many in California who might be asking the same question? This article states there is an Obesity epidemic in California."

    BTW - great comments, Mr. Adams, although I believe they will fall on unbelieving ears.

    It is easy to see why Mitt Romney is going to be the perfect candidate for these two individuals who are just as out-of-touch with what is going on in this country as he is. One difference - Mitt Romney believes the poor have a safety net, these two think they don't need one.

    First, to deny that there are starving children here in Lodi or anywhere else in California by pointing out that there is an obesity epidemic in this state is not only the height of ignorance, but a complete lack of understanding of nutrition, period.

    FYI - fat kids are most likely not eating a huge quantity of food (although some no doubt do overindulge), they are eating the kind of junk that is available for great prices at the Super WalMart.

    Watch an episode of Jamie Oliver's "Food Revolution" and see the kind of c#%p that is being served to our kids at school (and at home by their equally obese parents), and the opposition he gets from those "wonderful" lunch ladies who would rather open a package of frozen chicken nuggets and collect their union salaries than think differently about what kids should be eating.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:10 am on Wed, Apr 4, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    Darrell:
    You are taking a separate problem and using it out of context. Yes there is an obesity problem in youth in the USA today. Rent "Woodstock" and count how many fat kids you see. The last 40 years have been decades of more food than people normally need, hence they get fat.

    This is entirely separate of kids comming to school hungry and possibly depending on schools for what ever meals they get in a day. Jerome tried to push it off and make assumptions based on what I posted and was incredibly wrong.
    I have experience in this problem. A lot more experience than Jerome and I can tell you and him, that you just don't get it. Jerome can try and use his folksy wisdom and milque toast it out, but I can say with absolute faith that he has 0 idea of what he is talking about.

    And speaking of faith, if churches would take care of the problem of hunger in America today like they did durning the depression as he stated, why are there so many hungry kids (and people in general), homeless, etc. today? What is your church doing? What is his church doing? I see some church efforts locally, but these are fairly random. People need to eat everyday, not just Sunday mornings or on Thanksgiving. It is an on going problem and can't be satisfied by occasional (although very well intentioned and welcomed efforts by churches) breakfast served to the homeless and others 2 or 3 times a month.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:21 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I think Mr Crowder supported Mr Kinderman's position that government programs were of little value from 1929 to 1939, the years in question.

    The first monthly payment was issued by Social Security on January 31, 1940 to Ida May Fuller of Ludlow, Vermont. In 1937, 1938 and 1939 she paid a total of $24.75 into the Social Security System. Her first check was for $22.54.

    First Food Stamp Program (FSP) (May 16, 1939—Spring 1943) was very late and again, you are supporting Mr Kinderman's position. The first recipient was Mabel McFiggin of Rochester, New York; the first retailer to redeem the stamps was Joseph Mutolo; and the first retailer caught violating program rules was Nick Salzano in October 1939.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:14 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Kinderman stated... where are the starving children... evidently, there are many in California who might be asking the same question? This article states there is an Obesity epidemic in California. I see many students in Thailand, rarely do you see one over weight.. In fact, size 38 inch pants for men are the largest you can buy.


    Childhood obesity is 'very serious' problem in California, poll finds
    A new poll finds growing concern about childhood obesity, so much so that 61% support banning sugary drinks from schools.

    February 08, 2011|By Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Los Angeles Times

    A growing number of Californians consider obesity to be a "very serious" problem facing children in the state and believe unhealthy fare in schools should be restricted, according to a statewide poll released Tuesday.

    "They recognize the seriousness of the childhood obesity epidemic and understand that changing public policies is the key to creating healthier communities," said Dr. Robert K. Ross, president and chief executive of the California Endowment the Los Angeles-based nonprofit that funded the Field Poll survey.

     
  • Jerry Bransom posted at 8:45 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Jerry Bransom Posts: 363

    Can we just teach 'em the 3 "R's"? I am getting bored with the Idiots coming to my office asking for a job!!

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 6:42 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    Kinderman misstated, "During the era of the Great Depression there was little (if any) government assistance to those truly in need; . . ."

    The New Deal began during the Great Depression. The Social Security program was begun in response to widespread poverty among elderly citizens. The first food stamp programs appeared in the late 30's. Nearly every community in the country benefited from the CCC or the PWA, which made work for the unemployed when there was no private sector jobs to be found by funding infrastructure projects, conservation projects in every state, etc. Even writers, artists, and musicians were put to work doing government projects. I'd call that government assistance on a massive scale.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:10 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    Anyone who doubts that there are a many students in Lodi who go to school with no breakfast absolutely does not know what they are talking about. Having no experience with real students who go hungry it is quite easy to opine on and make fun of those who are without. I guarantee there are homeless students in LUSD. There are students whose parents haven't worked in over a year. There are students who have to sleep in cars because their parent's home was foreclosed on. They don't want you to know. There is embarrassment and shame. They don't want anyone to know they are hungry or haven't had a bath in a week. Some groups love blaming the children of parents who encounter hard times. Sorry kids, no food today. Your mom's a junkie. Holes in your shoes? You dad shouldn't have been sent to prison. Haven't showered in a week? Your parent's job's gone over seas.
    Just go over there and sit and try and disappear.

    You worry about re-naming the department which makes lunches. You complain as though it is soooo important and it isn't.

     
  • roy bitz posted at 3:58 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    roy bitz Posts: 500

    I believe all LUSD schools provide a FREE breakfast for all students---regardless of need or ability to pay.
    I recall an previous LNS interview with Mr. Sun where he stated that by providing a free quality breakfast to all students many students who do not qualify for free lunch would "participate in the lunch program" and this increased participation would qualify the district for additional federal funding.
    Mr. Sun is not saying an executive chef is needed. He is saying there is federal grant money available and LUSD should get it and use before some other entity does.
    I believe providing free breakfast for every is wrong and I believe anyone in the who thinks a $132,000 a year executive chef for LUSD or any public school system needs to think again.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:18 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    Last post was meant for another thread, sorry.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:17 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    The funniest part of this whole conversation is the "compassionate conservatives" who, on another thread from another day, argued that conservatives contribute more money to charitable causes because they are...compassionate.

    Now they want to know EXACTLY WHO are these starving children. Impossible! How could there be starving children in Lodi? After all, their parents can go to the Salvation Army and get food (where they employ a "chef" to cook nutritious food for the needy).

    Back to the letter from Mr. Miller...LUSD spending $130K for a "chef" to design nutritious meals and teach food staff to prepare and serve said meals is just ridiculous. Kids don't want to eat nutritious meals. They would rather starve. As a middle school vice-principal, my husband used to come home daily and lament the number of apples and other fruit, the containers of milk, etc., that were thrown away daily in the cafeteria. Once served, they could not be reused.

    Schools cannot teach kids proper nutrition by example in the cafeteria. This is another job that irresponsible parents are not doing and/or a lesson defiant kids don't want to learn, no matter their economic status.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 2:16 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    "Mr. Adams, please tell me you're not serious "
    As soon as you point out where in my posts I made the claim that has become a cornerstone of your argument::
    "So once again, where are these starving children? Perhaps the News-Sentinel might want to assign one of their reporters to dig them out?"

    I am not sure as to the relevance of another claim "Here's a comparison for you: the pictures of literally thousands of men and women ........ versus hundreds (or even thousands?) of people lining up for the latest iPad at the Apple Store."
    As written, I assume you implying that these people lining up to get ipods or shoes are poor and hungry and are spending welfare benefits on ipads rather than buying food for the millions of starving children in Lodi (ok that may be a stretch. There aren't even a million people in Lodi).

    If seeing people who aren't able to buy shoes or iphones causes some sort of psychic distress, maybe you shouldn't go to the Arden Faire Mall? Or maybe you need to address those things in life that depress you.

    How any of your points relate to renaming the cafeteria, I'm not sure. I don't think they do at all. Read the letter again. You maybe missed something.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:15 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    And, a great quote from our campaigning "Dear Leader"....our PRESIDENT doesn't even know how many statates un America?
    "It is wonderful to be back in Oregon," Obama said. "Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states. I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

    There are 57 Islamic states. ; ; So did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip?

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 1:38 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Mr. Adams, please tell me you're not serious - please! During the era of the Great Depression there was little (if any) government assistance to those truly in need; hence the depictions and stories of those who weathered those years. I believe the accounts to be quite accurate.

    But if we are to apply your claim that "[t]here is no way to correlate the number of hungry or unemployed or homeless or affluent or well off or living off mom and dad by news stories about purchasing the latest shoe or iphone," then so is the claim that right here in Lodi children are starving as claimed by you in your post at 8:51 a.m. today is invalid.

    So once again, where are these starving children? Perhaps the News-Sentinel might want to assign one of their reporters to dig them out?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:28 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    Why doesn't the LUSD Food Service "surplus" go to help offset shortages that LUSD seems to be experiencing lately? That's like saying I budget $200/mo for groceries but only spend $150. In the meantime, my car payment is over due but I can't use the "extra" $50 to help with that debt? Government run programs that live by the motto, "Give us extra money and we will find something to spend it on" whether we need it or not.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:48 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 549

    Surprising to note that no one has commented about the fact that the LUSD Food Services department has been running on a surplus, that is turning a profit, for several years.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 12:01 pm on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    "Here's a comparison for you: the pictures of literally thousands of men and women across the nation lining up for soup and bread versus hundreds (or even thousands?) of people lining up for the latest iPad at the Apple Store."
    .... this in not a valid comparison as there is no way to determine the economic status of those in line to buy the latest Apple toy.

    "the absolutely desolate and sad faces of those who learned that the most popular version of the iPad was actually out of stock brought me to the brink of breakdown myself. " Again, how can you possibly know about the economic status or situation of those standing in line to buy an I phone. Even more so, how can you be sure the depression era photograph is authentic or merely a depiction of what people of the era were told and expected to see examples of hardship.

    I read many accounts similar to those of Mr. Kinderman. There is no way to correlate the number of hungry or unemployed or homeless or affluent or well off
    or living off mom and dad by news stories about purchasing the latest shoe or iphone. Any comparison begs clarification and qualification, and the continued use of this ill-defined juxtaposition is not valid.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:52 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    Mike Adams posted a typical LIBERAL response. I have a great idea Mr. Adams, why don't YOU cough up the $130,000 to cover the cost of this "executive chef"? LIBERALS just love to spend money as long as it is other peoples money. There is a plethora of nutrition books and websites that LUSD can access to manage the school menus without spending a ridiculous amount of money on a "special chef". Schools are an institute of learning and funds should be used for education, not supplementing parents child raising expenses. We have plenty of other give-a-way programs available for that purpose.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:43 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Starving children right here in Lodi?!? Where are they; who are they? But more importantly if they are here, why are they starving?

    Once more (with incredible feeling), for those who CANNOT care for themselves and/or for those within their sphere of responsibility, as a society we should help them out. Isn’t that what the Salvation Army is here for? Knowing this, why would any parent ignore that kind of assistance because of pride?

    I am also so amazed that our current economic situation is constantly compared to the Great Depression of the 1930's. Here's a comparison for you: the pictures of literally thousands of men and women across the nation lining up for soup and bread versus hundreds (or even thousands?) of people lining up for the latest iPad at the Apple Store.

    I witnessed this very distressing situation at the Arden Faire Mall recently. No, it wasn't I looking for one of those devices, but the absolutely desolate and sad faces of those who learned that the most popular version of the iPad was actually out of stock brought me to the brink of breakdown myself. I don't know how I was able to control my dismay knowing that so many people would go to bed that night after watching the aforementioned American Idol or The Biggest Loser on their 55” high definition televisions not having their $650.00 (more or less) toy to check into Facebook or to play Angry Birds.

    I, 'er, um, . . . just don't know what . . . oh please - I'm sorry, but it's so hard to tap on my keyboard with blurred vision and my heart breaking over such a vision. I must go now. Oh the humanity!!!

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:31 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2028

    On a sidenote: More than once a food server at Larsen E. has come to my daughters table and told her she has to eat more and put food in front of her then charged her for it (which I refused to pay). I make sure she has good, nutritious and sufficient food every morning. Given that she is struggling with her weight (stemming from not knowing when to stop eating) the last thing I need as a parent is some full of themselves food server who doesn't know all the facts to start throwing food (especially the junk they serve in the cafeteria) in front of her until she is stuffed.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 11:27 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2028

    I see valid points from both sides here. Yes, Mike is correct that hungry kids will not perform as well in school and if they are not getting that food at home then the schools are the only place where they can get it.

    On the other hand I also see the point where we question what are the parents spending their money on if not food for their kids? Many families are in very tough financial situations. But there are others that are just irresponsible with money. Last week I was behind a lady in the store who paid for her food with food stamps (no problem there save most of the food was junk-high sugar low nutrition, but that is their choice) and then paid for two cartons of cigarettes and a case of beer with cash. THAT $30 goes a long ways to feeding your child in the morning so the tax payer doesn't have to. This "side" sees a problem with tax payers paying to feed kids so the parents can indulge in vices.

    But there is no easy answer to fix this issue of parents taking advantage of taxpayer provided meals for their kids.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:59 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    I just love the conservatives unwaivering mission to blame those who have no control over their lives like children. We will make those kids pay! Teach them a lesson because their parents got divoriced! Maybe they'll learn not to be the child of an un-wed mother! Serve's them right dad got laid off! It's not my fault both parents died and didin't have life insurance or close relatives to live with! Hey I had shoes that didn't fit and have holes in them growing up....I didn't hurt me! We can't help it the whole family has to sleep in a car!

    Yeah, all the good things concervatives dream up......everything is someone else's fault and should be the object of hate and scorn. How do you sleep at night?

     
  • Richard Turner posted at 9:26 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Richard Turner Posts: 80

    So sorry but these children are not starving !!! But it does give the parents one more reason to rely on the government to take care of their basic responsibility to feed the child that you ...not the government brought into this world !! another reason not to look for work !!! Its not good enough to receive food stamps, but now we don't even have to prepare the food !!! What next ? maybe someone should come to your house and bathe and dress them !! I know it sounds harsh but it really gives the children the wrong idea !! We send our children to school to learn to take care of themselves . not to learn that the government should do it for them !! If a child comes to school hungry then we need to look at the parent ....maybe the parent is in need of help !! By telling the parent its ok don't worry we have it covered , just makes it worse not better !!

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 8:51 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    Maybe they'll be able to figure out that 10,000 students getting D's or F's isn't 10,000 individual students but is actually the numbers of students recieving D's or F's in one or more of the core classes.

    Also maybe they'll understand, the ridiculous politics aside, it's a good idea to insure that children aren't hungry when at school because students who are hungry don't do as well as students who are fed breakfast and lunch. I guess from your validation that the founding fathers would believe that starving children will make the country a better place. I think different.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 6:29 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    So Mike Adams, are you saying that it is the governments responsibility to take care of the needs of the people, in order for them to attain self actualization? I prefer the founding fathers premise, that the human race has a desire to have liberty and freedom and be the deciders of their fate and fortunes.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:16 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    So clearly, there are two people who don't know about Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 5:06 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Also at the last meeting was the union representative imploring the School Board to support Governor Brown's tax increase. So let me get this straight- you want to keep spending money foolishly with a chef for the school, free lunches and heaven knows what other wastes of money- while raising my taxes- so you can continue to spend money irresponsibly? If I thought there was even a resemblance of fiscal responsibility at our local and state level, I might support a tax increase, but actions like this are proof that ours is a Government Gone Wild, and they need to have a budget, stick to it and be like the rest of us- trim the fat! We need some business people at the helm- not just retired government bureaucrats and employees who are used to an endless money tree- the taxpayer.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 4:48 am on Tue, Apr 3, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Any wonder why this country is in the mess it is in? Priorities are totally upside down..and the citizenry just goes along its merry way and allows it. THAT'S the saddest part of it. We expect elected officials to lose their way- it is up to us to steer them back on course, but that can only happen when we decide what we would rather do- go to a School Board or City Council meeting, or watch another episode of American Idol or the Biggest Loser. The choice is ours to make

     

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