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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:00 am

It’s really galling to read articles like this, “Going Without in America’s breadbasket,” June 11, in the Lodi News-Sentinel. My story can be told a million times over, even by my liberal friends, on how we started in life with nothing and through hard work made a contribution to this nation by not being a burden to our families or to our nation.

The young lady this article talks about was brought into this country illegally by her parents. Do her parents bear any personal responsibility for putting their child in this tenuous situation? Apparently not. It says she had big dreams and was to use agriculture as a springboard to her better life. It shows her with her seven children, and you wonder when did she have time for agriculture and you also wonder who paid for all these births. Does she bear responsibility for paying for the children’s birth? There is no mention of her husband in the article. Does he bear any responsibility for bringing these children into the world? Again, apparently not.

Before this young lady put herself in this situation, she should have learned the language, gone to school and earned a vocation before she had seven children. This is the only way anyone can achieve success: education, job and then family. It’s not the government’s (aka taxpayers’) responsibility constitutionally or morally to take care of me or my children or anyone else’s kids. It is the responsibility of the individual. If you can’t take care of yourself or the children you may have, you should not have them.

Ron Portal


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  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:20 am on Sat, Jun 29, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1459


  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:01 pm on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Empty minds are easily manipulated Mr. Barrow. [sleeping]

    #1 Today there are 88 million working age Americans that are not employed and that are not looking for employment. That is an all-time record high.

    #2 When Barack Obama was elected, the percentage of unemployed Americans that had been out of work for more than 52 weeks was less than 15%. Today, it is above 30%.

    #3 There are 1.2 million fewer jobs in America today than there were when Barack Obama was inaugurated.

    #4 When Barack Obama first took office, the number of “long-term unemployed workers” in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that numberis sitting at 5.6 million.

    #5 The average duration of unemployment in the United States is hovering close to an all-time record high.

    #6 During the Obama administration, worker health insurance costs have risenby 23 percent.

    #7 Since Barack Obama has been president, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.

    #8 Since Barack Obama has been president, home values in the United States have declined by another 13 percent.

    #9 Under Barack Obama, new home sales in the U.S. set a brand new all-time record low in 2009, they set a brand new all-time record low again in 2010, and they set a brand new all-time record low once again during 2011.

    #10 Since Barack Obama took office, the number of Americans living in poverty has risen by more than 6 million.

    #11 Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the number of Americans on food stamps has increased from 32 million to 46 million.

    #12 The amount of money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since Barack Obama entered the White House.

    #13 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of Americans living in “extreme poverty” is now sitting at an all-time high.

    #14 When Barack Obama first took office, an ounce of gold was going for about $850. Today an ounce of gold costs more than $1700 an ounce.

    #15 Since Barack Obama became president, the size of the U.S. national debt has increased by 44 percent.

    #16 During Barack Obama’s first two years in office, the U.S. government added more to the U.S. national debt than the first 100 U.S. Congresses combined.

    #17 During the Obama administration, the U.S. government has accumulated more debt than it did from the time that George Washington took office to the time that Bill Clinton took office.

    #18 The U.S. national debt has been increasing by an average of more than 4 billion dollars per day since the beginning of the Obama administration.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:54 pm on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    "Typically conservative, the lecture."

    Typical bleeding heart liberal hogwash. They have hospitals in Mexico, her children could have been born there, but wait....then they/she wouldn't be entitled to American tax dollar support.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:36 pm on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Evidently, Mr. Barrow doesn't know the difference between "pitching in" and extortion. I am required to pay taxes and don't have much say-so as to who they spend it on. America has enough citizen deadbeats who have raid our entitlement programs, we don't need ILLEGAL border crossers helping them out. If you are on the public dole and don't pay taxes, you don't care how tax dollars are spent.

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:32 pm on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Despite the fact that Obama deported more than 1.5 million undocumented immigrants Latinos still voted for him was the point.

  • John Lucas posted at 11:21 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


  • John Lucas posted at 11:20 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


  • John Lucas posted at 11:20 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:03 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Obama just can't get anything right for you, Andrew.

    If he enforces the law by deporting illegals, as he has done, you then laugh at him for getting support from Hispanics who are hoping he will untangle the whole immigration reform mess, which, by the way, the Republicans have NO intention of doing - at least those in the House ("DEAD ON ARRIVAL" - according to Boehner).

    You ARE aware that the Latinos who voted for Obama were actual "citizens," and not "illegals," right?

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:56 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Don't tell that to Joe Guzzardi, Andrew. Just in the past year he has written these three columns in which he claims Obama is not enforcing immigration laws (deportations) and letting illegal aliens take over the country.

    He might be a little PO'd to find that your number of deportations is correct and all of his columns are twisted facts and half-truths designed to scare the public.

    "Why Obama may regret his lax immigration policy"


    "Obama has failed to stop dangerous illegal immigrants"


    "Immigration in national spotlight after ruling"


  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:32 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1513

    Man this prez tricks everybody, he's like some evil genius. What chance do we have against such intelligence? I fear we are all doomed.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:01 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1513

    Don't have to cause we're all pitching in thanks for helping.

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:51 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    In November, President Pinnocchio's slim victory was due largely in part to overwhelming (nearly 75%) Latino support, based on the belief that the Administration would finally take on immigration reform in a fair and equitable way.

    Never mind that during his first term President Obama deported more than 1.5 million undocumented immigrants.

  • Mike Adams posted at 8:30 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    And if Walter is correct, the seven children were born in the US, then they are US citizens. Typically conservative, ignorance of the Constitution (and subsequent Bill of Rights).

  • Mike Adams posted at 8:28 am on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1383

    Please excuse the angry musings of Mr. Portal. His only knowledge of the real world is what he is fed continually by Fox, Hanity, Limbaugh, etc. How pleasant it must be, to see the "truth" after wading through the mountains of liberal mainstream press.

    "If you can’t take care of yourself or the children you may have, you should not have them." Typically conservative, the assigning of blame and shame.

    "Before this young lady put herself in this situation, she should have learned the language, gone to school and earned a vocation before she had seven children. "
    Typically conservative, the lecture.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:52 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Mr. Bitz, welfare and other entitlements were never meant to be a career path but sadly, millions have figured out how to milk the system. Even when there were plenty of jobs available, the welfare rolls were outlandishly high. I am all for giving people a temporary helping hand, but only when circumstances beyond their control necessitate.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:40 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    I have a great suggestion, why don't you bleeding heart liberal go hang out at San Joaquin County Hospital and everytime an illegal mother rolls out the front door with her now "natural born" citizen baby ask her how much she paid the hospital for services rendered. Then ask the hospital how much it cost taxpayers for her "free" baby. Then whip out your checkbook and pay up. Then give her your phone number so everytime her baby(ies) needs to go to the doctor or she needs groceries, you can go with her and pay with YOUR money. Ever hear the adage "If you can't feed'em, don't breed'em".

  • Walter Chang posted at 4:37 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1117

    "seven children"

    They're US citizens.

    With the same rights as our crusading complaining author.


  • roy bitz posted at 3:50 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    roy bitz Posts: 499

    I believe we must provide basic needs to those who cannot help themselves.
    I also believe people must earn what we get.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:16 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I didn't see this article when it first came out (didn't have print version then) and it was hard to find since it was not under the title Mr. Portal mentioned.

    I was not surprised, though, after reading it that there were great discrepancies between what Mr. Portal is complaining about and what the article actually said - for one she is no longer married to her husband - but Mr. Portal made it seem as if she had been having random sex with any man who came along.

    This woman pretty much personifies many of the issues discussed here that certain commenters are in denial about - lack of education, lack of sex/birth control education, lack of access to birth control or the knowledge where to obtain all that "free stuff" some people are always pointing at, and perhaps even a religious objection to the use of birth control and/or abortion.

    As far as "hard work" and "making a contribution," it certainly sounds like she hasn't slacked at all in that department.

    While the woman in the article has struggled to make ends meet through whatever means she can, Mr. Portal's biggest concern is "who is paying for the births of her children - and by extension - "now we have another bunch of Mexican rug rats to support.

    It is a shame that we are not all as fortunate in life as Ms. Samuels to have common sense or as wealthy as Mr. Baxxter to retire at 50.

    Without individuals like the woman in this article, there would be a serious lack of people to make fun of or demean as these 3 have. Then how would you occupy your time?

    Most likely pretending to live Christian lives.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:12 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1513

    What a slacker, she has only been picking your vegetables for the last thirty years and I bet if we refuse to help feed those kids that will teach them to have poor parents. Pathetic.
    By the way the article never mentions that this family is asking for your help it is simply highlighting the financial discrepancies between wealthy farmers and the people they employ but by all means attack the laborers.

  • Sunny Samuels posted at 11:54 am on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Sunny Samuels Posts: 59

    There you go trying to use common sense. A lot of people won't get it because they don't have it.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:00 am on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1846

    Mr. Portal, you mean slackers are supposed to actually take responsibility for their own own welfare and their families too? Oh my, what a radical concept.


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