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Posted: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:00 am

As unpalatable as it was to many blind patriots, Russian President Putin’s message in the New York Times editorial was accurate in his criticism of America’s destructive foreign policy and Obama’s polemic quest to bomb and plunder Syria.

In the first Gulf War, George H. Bush committed unspeakable carnage in Iraq, killing thousands of innocents with depleted uranium-coated bombs. Its aftermath through the years and to present has exponentially increased birth defects.

Bill Clinton followed with copycat war crimes, killing Serbians in Kosovo.

George W. Bush, in a psychopathic fervor, surpassed both predecessors in the chaotic Middle East countries.

Obama, the one-time peace candidate and Nobel Peace Prize winner, has continued America’s ongoing, bogus “War on Terror” upon non-complying Islamic nations. He now wants to plunder Syria over accusations of al-Assad gassing his people.

Even if Assad was guilty as our corporate puppet president claims, it would be tantamount to the Hillside Strangler fingering Charles Manson as a serial killer. If all four of the aforementioned presidents were charged with war crimes under the same laws as the Germans after World War II, there would be enough evidence to find them all guilty; therefore our government doesn’t have the high moral ground to accuse any nation’s leader of any crimes.

American exceptionalism (we’re the greatest) that Putin mentioned has to be eradicated from this nation’s lexicon, as the rest of the world sees this attitude as Anglo-American arrogance.

Adam Dados

Lodi

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25 comments:

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:43 pm on Mon, Sep 23, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    If that were true you shouldn't have any problem directing me to the point in the video where she said such a thing. After all, it's only 1 min. 7 sec. long. Unfortunately, "You are clearly making your own interpretations. Carla Del Ponte said no such thing."[sleeping]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:12 pm on Mon, Sep 23, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    Please, Mr. Lucas, share with us some proof that what Carla Del Ponte said is untrue. No BS liberal talking heads say so, actual published, verifiable, undeniable proof.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:52 am on Mon, Sep 23, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Liebich wrote: "You are clearly making your own interpretations. Carla Del Ponte said no such thing."

    Review your "youtube" link. She said exactly that - that the reports of rebels using chemical weapons were not confirmed and that they were waiting for further information.

    Obviously, a case of cognitive dissonance on your part, Liebich.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:49 am on Mon, Sep 23, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Yes, she did.

    And why was my comment deleted?

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 9:27 am on Mon, Sep 23, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    Faux news is at it again. ROFLMAO

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 9:26 am on Mon, Sep 23, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    Just like Iraq, these statements are suspect of tampered documents. The flyboy just wants to bomb anything that moves.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:35 pm on Sun, Sep 22, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    How does “Our capacity to execute this mission is not time-sensitive" magically morph into "at no time has Obama proposed such a thing"?
    [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:04 pm on Sun, Sep 22, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You aught to keep up with current events. At no time has Obama proposed such a thing. Who you think he is, Dick Cheney?. You have to remember his is not a Conservative. He is a smart person.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:53 pm on Sun, Sep 22, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    You are clearly making your own interpretations. Carla Del Ponte said no such thing.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 1:10 pm on Sun, Sep 22, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849


    Mr. Lucas posted: "deliberately invading a country for no real reason costing a couple trillion dollars and who knows how many lives"
    You mean like Obama proposed and is still proposing for Syria?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:56 am on Sun, Sep 22, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    If you believe your post substantiated the fact that installing AlQueda in Libya was "brilliant" as Mr. Lucas suggested, it doesn't.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:47 am on Sun, Sep 22, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    During the second portion of a House Oversight and Government Reform hearing about Benghazi Thursday on Capitol Hill, the majority of Democrats on the Committee left the room and refused to listen to the testimony of Patricia Smith and Charles Woods.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:39 am on Sun, Sep 22, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Mr. Baxter's statement is true.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdcEjjOvniU&sns=em. [sleeping]

    You are demonstrating willfully ignorance. Typical. [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:58 pm on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    That charge has been made before and has been shown to be untrue. It fits with what you would like to be true so you go with it. Typical.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:24 pm on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1849

    Here is something you won't read or hear on liberal news in America.
    "Carla Del Ponte, a member of the UN Independent Commission of Inquiry on Syria, said that testimony gathered from casualties and medical staff indicated that the nerve agent sarin was used by rebel fighters."


     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:40 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    It is certainly quite rich for this commenter to whine about "had this occurred on George Walker Bush's watch (because he claims he ALWAYS states a president's FULL NAME) while continually whining about "George Walker Bush is not the president anymore" so we CERTAINLY have no need to mention him at all - as if he never existed.

    And better off we would have been if that had been the case.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:32 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    The suppositions by our right-wing friends are so desperate and so far out there now that it has been decided that certain "questions" will be banned from debates.

    But I suppose that nonsense comes from the RNC who have already declared that they will not carry any democratic debates on certain channels due to "documentaries" about Hillary Clinton scheduled to air in the coming months.

    I would imagine that these programs would be more detrimental than flattering to Clinton, but as usual, the RNC has the shoe on the wrong foot.

    And, if I remember correctly, wasn't there a certain candidate (Newt Gingrich) in the Republican party who got a little hysterical in one of the CNN sponsored debates and actually chastised the moderator for asking a question about (one of) his ex-wives' claim that he had asked for an "open marriage?"

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:11 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    [thumbup]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:44 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Not to you but to most people deliberately invading a country for no real reason costing a couple trillion dollars and who knows how many lives and deliberately torturing people is a little different than what happened at Benghazi. There were many more Benghazi type incidents during George W Bush term than Obama's but they were so overshadowed by his administration's mind boggling incompetence they never got a proper hearing.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:05 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    "Sometimes bad things happen. It is part of life." Really? And that's the end of that?

    Had this occurred on George W. Bush's watch believe me, such statements would not be acceptable.

    But I do agree with your premise in general. As far as Barack Hussein Obama's entire presidency is concerned it is undeniably true that "sometimes bad things happen." Oh well!

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:52 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    The matter has been exhaustively investigated. I am sure Hillary will be hammered over and over again. Sometimes bad things happen. It is part of life. The right wing's media machine's constant barrage of exaggerative nonsense and out and out lies will only convince those who have already swallowed their nonsense. It will turn off everyone else especially those sitting on the fence. We have our own example of what I am trying to say here on this forum. Who listens to Andrew Liebich stuff anymore? That right, no one.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:34 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Yes indeed, "brilliant" was Obama with his handling of Libya "in spite" of Benghazi. And I thought at least according to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that that event simply didn't matter. Shouldn't even the mention of it be considered treason? In fact, during the upcoming debates in 2016, it should be agreed that the subject will be completely off limits; that any violation to that edict will result in an automatic win by our esteemed former First Lady.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:05 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    The best that can be said about Mr. Liebich's posts is that he always adds the quintessential emoticon which is a perfect for everything he has to say.

    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:53 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    "His policy in Libya was brilliant".

    Seriously? The “humanitarian” mass slaughter in Libya that installed al-Qaeda was brilliant?

    Despite promising otherwise, Barack Obama committed U.S. military resources to overthrow Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi without any kind of congressional authorization whatsoever and without citing any evidence that Libya under
    Gaddafi was a threat to the security of the United States. Furthermore, Obama
    brazenly undermined the power of Congress by insisting his authority came from
    the United Nations Security Council and that Congressional approval was not
    necessary. “I don’t even have to get to the Constitutional question,” Obama
    said.
    [sleeping]

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:30 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Mr Dados said:

    If all four of the aforementioned presidents were charged with war crimes under the same laws as the Germans after World War II, there would be enough evidence to find them all guilt.

    I do no think so.

    George H Bush built a coalition of forces to combat the clear aggression of Saddam Hussein and drove him out of Kuwait. His handling of the situation was competent and deserves praise.

    Bill Clinton and our NATO allies stopped the genocide being committed by the Serbians. It was a proud moment in our nations history.

    Obama has got our troops out of Iraq and we will be out of Afghanistan by the end of next year. His policy in Libya was brilliant(in spite of Benghazi) where a tyrant was gotten rid of with little of our blood and treasure. His handling of Syria has been nothing short of brilliant. Syria used chemical weapons on its own people and now has agreed to give these weapons. Much credit has to go to Russia.

    I have to agree about George W Bush and his partner in crime Dick Cheney. Our invasion of Iraq was clearly unprovoked and done under false pretenses. Their admitted use of torture was not only against international law but against the laws of our own country. They clearly should have been impeached., convicted and thrown from office. Charges should have been brought against them for their use of torture and after their trials they should have been sent to the Hague to answer for their war crimes. Alas we do not live in a perfect world.

     

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