The size of our government is not the real issue
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Posted: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:00 am
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Updated: 6:26 am, Mon Jun 18, 2012.
The size of our government is not the real issue
Here it is, another nauseating election year — demagogic grandstanding, election junk mail, false witnessing, general lack of integrity among the candidates, and of course the whining and bellyaching about "too much government." I feel a headache coming on. I'm sick and tired of it.
If you don't like government, here's a brilliant suggestion: Don't participate in it by voting. Why vote, no matter who you vote for, be it a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent or whomever — guess what — the government still gets elected. Even Ronald Reagan, who once said something about wanting to downsize government but still ran for president, obviously wanted it to be big enough for him to be in it — this caused him some mild amusement.
Besides, elected officials don't really run the country anyway. It is the people who are appointed by the elected officials to the various government posts (in partnership with private enterprise-corporate-capitalistic interests) who really run things from behind the scenes. Elected officials are just dupes. We have the form of democracy, but not the content.
So, unless you were a slave toiling in the cotton fields of the old ante-bellum south, or a 19th century American Indian confined to a reservation and forced to subsist on handouts, or were shipped off to Siberia for speaking out against the powers that be, or were a Jew in Nazi-occupied Europe in the early 1940s waiting in line to be gassed in a death camp, or even served in the military for a least four years, then please spare us that tired old song and dance about too much government!
Sure, our government is broke, but there is not too much of it. We fix it by taking it back from the rich and powerful, both domestic and foreign. It's our government, it belongs to we the people.
John Cooper
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Monday, June 18, 2012 12:00 am.
Updated: 6:26 am.
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Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:31 pm on Thu, Jun 21, 2012.
Ms Bobin stated... My ever growing file of Mr. Baumbach's comments (archived on the LNS website) beg to differ...
Not talking about what you imagine and/or pretend you have archived. We are talking about your distortion I illustrated at 6:44 pm on Tue, Jun 19, 2012.
I am happy to hear you are saving my posts. You will have a library of accurate information where rational thought and ideas are readily available for your use. Wise idea Ms. Bobin. Glad to be of help and value to you.
Joanne Bobin posted at 9:50 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
My ever growing file of Mr. Baumbach's comments (archived on the LNS website) beg to differ. Again, Mr. Baumbach complains that his OWN WORDS do not mean what they mean.
I wonder if this tactic helped you in high school to get a grade higher than "F" when you told your teachers "you are misinterpreting my miserable writing abilities."
Must be why you dislike public education so much.
Joanne Bobin posted at 9:46 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
that's "respond by."
Joanne Bobin posted at 9:44 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
Mr. Chapman wrote: "Uh Oh, when all the people are either working for the government or receiving government subsistence I wonder who will pick up the check?"
I responded, "Mr. Chapman once again complains about government workers as if they are some type of bloodsucking category of workers who do not contribute to society."
Since Mr. Chapman claims I am reading what I want this to say, not what he actually said, perhaps Mr. Chapman can explain what the above sentence MEANS.
Congratulations, Mr. Chapman, you have joined the ranks of the Baumbachs of the world who write comments, then claim they are all misinterpreted - AND complain that they are being insulted and then respondy writing even greater insulting comments. Mr. Baumbach has trained his sycophants well.
I think what you wrote is pretty clear - how else are we to interpret, "all the people are either working for the government or receiving government subsistence I wonder who will pick up the check" other than all government workers and those who receive assistance are leeches on society and there will be no one to pay for their bloodsucking activities"
Go ahead, I'm listening.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:02 am on Wed, Jun 20, 2012.
what?... uh? how does ms Bobin draw such a bizarre conclusion based on Mr Cooper talking about someone serving four years?
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:44 pm on Tue, Jun 19, 2012.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:09 pm on Mon, Jun 18, 2012...I am not making light of his comments at all. In reality, I respect his letter and am thankful he submitted it. I simply think someone would have had to check out in order to believe what he does. … it shows he is unaware of what the complaint is.
Ms Bobin posts later... I am constantly amazed by the hypocrisy of Mr. Baumbach. How often has he berated commenters in this forum for making this type of remark about a letter writer and demanded that commenters add to the conversation rather than make insulting comments.
Response... more distortion from Ms Bobin... how predictable.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:36 pm on Tue, Jun 19, 2012.
Robert, I assume that Ms Bobin knows exactly what she is reading but consciously decides to distort and characterize what she reads in a false light.
Robert Chapman posted at 4:27 pm on Tue, Jun 19, 2012.
Joanne, may I suggest you enroll in a remedial reading comprehension class. It just might help you to read words for what they really say, not what your liberal mind warps them to say. Even with your with a double digit IQ you should be able to read the words on these posts for what they actually say. Apparently you struggle with simple tasks. Good luck.
Robert Chapman posted at 4:03 pm on Tue, Jun 19, 2012.
Again Joanne Bobin does what she does best. Twist a post so she has some basis to insult. What she doesn't realize is that every time she does it it only reflects on her own ignorant and dismal ability to comprehend the written word for what it says, not what she WANTS it to say. Nice try Joanne, but your comment is ignorant and irrelevant, as usual.
Joanne Bobin posted at 9:48 am on Tue, Jun 19, 2012.
Mr. Baumbach wrote: "Ignorance is bliss... Mr Cooper is blissful.
Unfortunately, this man has tuned out and has become ..... part of the problem that makes it difficult to swim up stream."
I am constantly amazed by the hypocrisy of Mr. Baumbach. How often has he berated commenters in this forum for making this type of remark about a letter writer and demanded that commenters add to the conversation rather than make insulting comments.
As usual - do as I say, not as I do.
And apparently Mr. Baumbach did not bother to read the entire letter or has once again proven he lacks sufficient reading comprehension skills. Mr. Cooper is not claiming that he has decided to remove himself from the process at all.
Mr. Chapman once again complains about government workers as if they are some type of bloodsucking category of workers who do not contribute to society.
I am sure that police, fire, the military, teachers and many others who work for government entitiies pay taxes and buy goods that contribute to the economy.
Mr. Chapman's comments, as usual, are ignorant at best.
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Joanne Bobin posted at 9:37 am on Tue, Jun 19, 2012.
Mr. Cooper wrote: "or even served in the military for a least four years, then please spare us that tired old song and dance about too much government!"
I don't know how old Mr. Cooper is, but apparently he is either too old or too young to know that draftees during the Vietnam War served for 24 months.
With one ignorant sentence, Mr. Cooper has disparaged the 9 million men and women who served in the Vietnam era and the 50,000 members of the military who lost their lives in the service of their country.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:29 pm on Mon, Jun 18, 2012.
Laurie, your commentary reveals a perceptive person. I imagine you have achieved the kind of success in your life that you appreciate.
I often make comments like I did below only to have misunderstandings like Mr Chang's as a response. I agree with every point you made.
Robert Chapman posted at 2:33 pm on Mon, Jun 18, 2012.
Uh Oh, when all the people are either working for the government or receiving government subsistence I wonder who will pick up the check? The government only spends money (or borrows or prints more) and doesn't contribute to the financial welfare of America whatsoever. What the liberal minds don't seem to comprehend is that all these "feel good" programs take cold hard cash. SOMEONE has to pay. What happened to the responsible idea of taking care of yourself and your family? Apparently there now is pride in how much you can get for FREE with someone else paying your way. I can't comprehend such a mindset.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:09 pm on Mon, Jun 18, 2012.
Mr Chang stated...Your comments don't even make sense. You've falsely labeled him in an attempt to make light of his comments.
I'm starting to get the hang of your thinking Mr Chang... unfortunately, you are very far off in comprehending the intent and motivation behind my posts.
I am not making light of his comments at all. In reality, I respect his letter and am thankful he submitted it. I simply think someone would have had to check out in order to believe what he does. When Mr Cooper states he is tired of people complaining about the size of the government and that people who complain are just doing some sort of song and dance … it shows he is unaware of what the complaint is. He even misunderstands Reagan... ( size of government was not the primary target)
The four pillars of Reagan's economic policy were to reduce the growth of government spending, reduce income tax and capital gains tax, reduce government regulation of economy, and control money supply to reduce inflation.
Walter Chang posted at 10:51 am on Mon, Jun 18, 2012.
"Ignorance is bliss... Mr Cooper is blissful.
Unfortunately, this man has tuned out and has become ..... part of the problem that makes it difficult to swim up stream."
Darrell, he's not ignorant. Nor blissful.
He certainly hasn't tuned out yet or we wouldn't of had his letter to read this morning.
Your comments don't even make sense.
You've falsely labeled him in an attempt to make light of his comments.
The purpose of your post wast to demean the letter writer and entertain yourself.
Please tell us all...
From your perch on the "sandbar", what would you know about swimming up stream????
Laurie Wallace posted at 8:57 am on Mon, Jun 18, 2012.
I agree, Darrell. The apathy is amazing. Better people in government will appoint more responsible people to the various posts and commissions, or eliminate them altogether (even better). Of course our government is too big; it's appetite for non-constitutional spending will ensure that we pay higher taxes and our children will have less choices. People who understand success and discipline will be better in office than those who are there to serve themselves. Only by educating people and voting can we change the makeup of our legislature and congress.
Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:17 am on Mon, Jun 18, 2012.
Ignorance is bliss... Mr Cooper is blissful.
Unfortunately, this man has tuned out and has become ..... part of the problem that makes it difficult to swim up stream.