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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:00 am | Updated: 7:07 am, Tue Oct 26, 2010.

The Tea Party seems to be such a mixture of people and agendas that it is difficult to put a single label on the organization. After such exposure on television and many comments by Democrat spokespersons, it becomes evident that Tea Partiers have but one common identifier — they are the informed.

They have seen through the double-talking Barack Hussein Obama. They have understood what “billion” and “trillion” mean, and they refuse to be deceived by promises that can never be kept.

Being the informed, they are alarmed and aroused. They are an unstoppable force who has the Democrats in panic mode. Well, hello? Did they think people who had been awakened by the signs of danger ahead would just stand in the tracks and let the engine of socialism run them down?

Being informed, the supporters of the Tea Party have simply decided to fight for their survival. They are patriots.

Norman Sayles

Lodi

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17 comments:

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:51 pm on Fri, Oct 29, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    However... your comments about Bush and chaney have nothing to do with the Tea party... and why they are doing what they are doing now... you display a complete lack of understanding as well... in a way... I am pleased that you and others do not get it... as it makes it more likely to succeed and defeat what you represent.... I am not part of that movement, but if you oppose it, they must be doing something right.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:46 pm on Fri, Oct 29, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Bbin posted...To the extent? Please, spare us the baloney. Bush and Cheney manufactured a reason to invade Iraq...

    Selective memory JB... please be more honest... If what you say is true, that Bush manufactured information, then it would hold true that Clinton, Kerry, Kennedy and a host of democrats manufactures it as well... All had access to the same data. In addition, Blair, and many other leader concurred with Kerry and Clinton as well that Sadam needed to be stopped..... but I can understand that someone like you, that posted the following would believe just about anything: Joanne Bobin posted at 6:20 pm...And yes, after living and working in Lodi for 33 years, I know that not only is there a bigot around every corner...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:38 pm on Fri, Oct 29, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Glendolyn Beck posted at 10:35 ...Darrell, the difference between you and me is that you are lying and I am not. Given our respective political affiliations, perhaps that is not surprising.

    I think there are different differences... I think one of the differences is that I state opinion and back of my opinion with supporting arguments.. you on the other hand, just name call and play childish games... Im happy that we are different.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:00 pm on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach is desperately delusional in his statements. Not only does he make up downright lies, he actually believes the lies he tells.

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: good question.... illustrates that Kim doesn’t understand what the concerns are... the variables causing concern that the Tea party people are experiencing did not exist during the Bush years to the extent that it is today under Obama’s administration .Just a little research would answer Kim’s question."

    To the extent? Please, spare us the baloney. Bush and Cheney manufactured a reason to invade Iraq. Their reasons have been disproved time and time again. Will we ever know the true reasons for engaging in an unprovoked war? I doubt it. The fact remains that there are a whole lot of families whose sons, daughters, wives, mothers, and fathers have not returned from that "war" except in a body bag. That war has not been paid for, but apparently Mr. Baumbach and Ms. Paragoris want to ignore that issue and harp on their delusions of constitutional violations. Not one single TEA Partier in this forum has ever answered my questions regarding these supposed violations, no doubt because they are simply talking points with no substance.

     
  • Glendolyn Beck posted at 10:35 am on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    Glendolyn Beck Posts: 2

    Darrell, the difference between you and me is that you are lying and I am not. Given our respective political affiliations, perhaps that is not surprising.

    -LP

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:11 am on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    Manuel stated....As to your questions, I have watched Glen Beck periodically, I consider it a stress test or a game of 'spot the misrepresentation...

    I can imagine that most socialists and communists would concur with Manuel... Very happy to see Manuel make this statement as it means Beck is dead on accurate. I am not a tea party member or supporter, and watch Beck less than Manuel I suspect… but I find they support my thinking somewhat where as the blogs here, are just fantasy and wishful thinking.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:04 am on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    The teabagger movement has been stained by violence wherever it has raised its ugly head, from Sharon Angle's calls for Senator Reid's assassination to the Rand Paul supporters stomping on that woman's head.

    This is an ugly side of American politics, straight up simple and plain

    Steve... your misrepresentations are the ugly side of America... and these blogs...
    Its more truthful to state that democrats support slavery than what you state the tea party represents and supports...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:53 am on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Glendolyn Beck posted...Not only were there many racist signs, some of them were held by individuals dressed in KKK regalia.

    I think you are mistaken... you were at the Democrats convention when you saw this... I was there... I saw all the democrats with the hate signs... I think you are very confused...
    I think my blog is more valid than yours..

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:34 am on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Kim Lee posted..Why didn't the Tea Partiers rally when Bush was in office...

    good question.... illustrates that Kim doesn’t understand what the concerns are... the variables causing concern that the Tea party people are experiencing did not exist during the Bush years to the extent that it is today under Obama’s administration .Just a little research would answer Kim’s question. However, I think Kim’s true intent for asking the question is that tea party people, to her, are insincere and misguided, as they should have rallied when Bush was president.

     
  • Glendolyn Beck posted at 5:45 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Glendolyn Beck Posts: 2

    I don't know what anyone else has seen but down here in Texas, I saw several of the earliest teabagger rallies at the state capitol (from the sidelines)l. Not only were there many racist signs, some of them were held by individuals dressed in KKK regalia.

    And yes, in those days, the people at the rally referred to THEMSELVES as "teabaggers".

    -LP

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 4:40 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2023

    Speaking of being informed and the Bill of rights.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/76/511/Fact-Checking_the_UN_Small_Arms_Treaty.html

     
  • Manuel Martinez posted at 4:33 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Manuel Martinez Posts: 641

    I believe Steve is referring to this:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39844442/ns/us_news/


    As to your questions, I have watched Glen Beck periodically, I consider it a stress test or a game of 'spot the misrepresentation.' I would certainly hope that you don't bother with Glen Beck because thus far, your response was somewhat rational. I've noticed that republicans attack the president and demonize the speaker far more than the latter rebuking them. In fact, it gets annoying to watch the president just take it without responding with the full force one could bear on confronting inaccuracies.

    None of us argue that President Obama is perfect, nor will we state that every policy enacted is one we agree with(I for one oppose the mandate to purchase health insurance and the decision to remove the public option from healthcare reform; prior to that I was miffed that we didn't pursue a single-payer plan), but we won't place quotation marks around the title president merely because of objections to the outcome of a situation unless it truly warrants it. I would rather support the coffee party's call for a rational discourse than appeal to the tea party that often seems to proudly state "we're mad!"(Paladino) and advocate for a return to their perceived view of the constitution.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 3:35 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    At least we aren't trying to rewrite the Declaration of Independence like "our" President. He has, in the last few weeks, omitted the word "Creator" from it while quoting it. I'm sure that was just a Freudian slip. I put the word "our" President in quotations because apparently the way he trashes the GOP, he is only the President of Democrats. He is not the Commander in Chief- he is the Campaigner in Chief. If he talks about the economy, or anything when he isn't in front of an adoring crowd, he looks like he is getting an enema. But put him in front of a crowd of college students, or on "The View" -and watch him roar! He has driven a wedge in this country that I hope will someday be healed. He has some very deep seated psychological issues and we are getting the brunt of it

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 2:48 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Have any of you ever been to a Tea Party event or meeting? And the use of the word Teabagger just shows your close mindedness and ignorance. Have you ever watched Glenn Beck, especially in the last 6 months? Do you know that a UCLA student did a very well researched study on the Tea Pary and found that under 5% of any signs at Tea Parties had any racial or violent undertones? Steve, please substantiate your incidents of violence stained Tea Party events. Your words "straight up simple and plain" sound like a self description. Don't believe everything you read..Why hasn't Briehart's offer of $100,000 been claimed, to the person that can produce an audio or video of the supposed "N" word being shouted at the Congressman? Because it never happened, that is why. Why do you liberals insist on attacking people that don't see eye to eye with you? I just don't get it....are we bothering you that much? You own the Presidency, the majority int eh House and Senate, the media, and you still aren't happy? Why so glum and angry??

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:43 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Because Glenn Beck wasn't telling them that the "engine of socialism" would "run them down." (Medicare Part D, NCLB)

    Because they didn't have the brains to realize that GWB was getting us into an insane war in Iraq that would cost trillions that we still cannot afford to pay, and for what? So that our troops could be murdered and maimed and so we could establish a "democratic" government in Iraq that is just as corrupt as Sadam Hussein's?

    Mr. Sayles use of the "Barack Hussein Obama" tripe reveals all. No need to delve further into his character or beliefs.

    TEA Partiers are like Ms. O'Donnell in Delaware, the TEA Party's Constitutional expert, who somehow missed the meaning of the First Amendment when she asked, "Where in the Constitution is separation of church and state?" Actually, she is the personification of the TEA Party - she has no idea what the Constitution actually says. That, Mr. Sayles, is just how "knowledgable" TEA Partiers are.

    I'm looking foward to all of these TEA Party candidates going to Washington and proposing their crackpot ideas to the mainstream GOP. The infighting has already been predicted and the outcome, for the citizenry at least, will be disastrous.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 11:25 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2378

    The teabagger movement has been stained by violence wherever it has raised its ugly head, from Sharon Angle's calls for Senator Reid's assassination to the Rand Paul supporters stomping on that woman's head.

    This is an ugly side of American politics, straight up simple and plain.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 10:45 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Why didn't the Tea Partiers rally when Bush was in office?

     

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