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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:00 am

As the sequester looms, here are some examples of our government's wise spending: There has been $600 billion taken from Medicare and the elderly to prop up Obamacare; $50.7 billion in foreign aid; $4 million for the IRS to run its own TV studio; EPA sends $100 million in grants to foreign countries; FAA spends $500 million a year on consultants; $500 million to illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County alone; the National Science Foundation awarded a $1.2 million grant to seniors to play the video game "World of Warcraft" to analyze the impact it had on their brains; $125 billion in documented waste and fraud abuse; the EPA awarded $140,000 to study Chinese swine manure; the National Institutes of Health funded studies on the hookah smoking habits of Jordanian students; the Department of Agriculture funded a $20 million reality TV show in India promoting U.S. cotton; and on and on.

If our government had stayed within the limits of the Constitution and had not gotten itself involved in areas it has no business being in, there would be a booming economy.

Just in the 59 minutes that our Imperial President droned on without end in the State of the Union address last January, the national debt increased $123.5 million and the U.S. government spent $404 million. Of the 6,419 words he spoke, he only mentioned the debt twice; the budget — which he hasn't passed in four years — four times; Obamacare once; spending three times; the sequester once; and probably the most important subject to us little people — unemployment — was not even mentioned.

The only thing this man is serious about is living the high life. We should listen to voices of the past that have been proven to be right through action and experience, like Cicero, who wrote, "The budget should be balanced, the public debt reduced, assistance to foreign lands curtailed and that people should not depend on the government for their subsistence."

Ron Portal


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  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:01 am on Wed, Mar 6, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    I don't think it’s for you to decide what is appropriate I find many of your hate filled rants inappropriate. I think you are right that people well into retirement should have done much better but that would not helped the baby boomers who didn't have as many children to support them and one way or another allowed SS funds to be spent now after having a better opportunity economically than any other generation they are willing to steal from the next generation asking those 10 or 20 years from retirement to give something up through less benefits, working longer or both. You made your bed take responsibility for it.
    Don't you mean grow old and vote repub and it seems like we have been doing the winning lately or did you miss the last election unless you were talking financially in which case I am fine and I'm not sitting around waiting for the Guv to take care of me.

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 7:50 pm on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrb: The term you refer to is a filthy sexual practice used to buy some and is not appropriate on these pages
    Idiot refers to one who has less than an average intellect... Or pretend to have one...only to show they do not. Had LBJ left SS off budget the baby boomers would be receiving on average of nearly $4000 each month from their investment. But noooooooooo your buddy dems changed the rules, stole the money and bought votes Like BO is doing now.
    NOW you want the seniors to do without so you don't have to. Well I have something in my pocket for you. You need to grow up and vote Republican. BTW: Your knowledge of SS is obviously nil...try disengaging your namlee before spouting your yansu. The markets today have nothing to do with the monies she invested for 50 years...during Bush's 8 years the treasury yield averaged nearly 12%. BOs average is 3.5%. You are losing. She is winning...like Charlie....WINNING!!!

  • Eric Barrow posted at 6:12 pm on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Johnson? Vietnam? Hasn't there been a few Repubs in office since then? Of course if you want to start talking about frivolous wars and the ridiculously incompetent running of the economy you couldn't have started in a better place than Bush the Lesser. What about that plan of his privatize SS what do you think your mother-in-law would have been living on three years ago when the markets were in the toilet. Another thing is that for someone who is concerned with the use of certain Tea Bag references you seem pretty quick to insult others, guess if you feel no need to restrain yourself I shouldn't either.

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 3:15 pm on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    How many times do you have to pay for the idiots? Every time you vote. mrb: For your information your illustrious party opened the door for the SS funds to be put into the general fund where they were promptly spent on the Democratic Viet Nam War and the Democratic Great Society of the Dempcratic president Lyndon Johnson and his cronies...like BO is doing now. And, YES, you will be paying for it many times over...I already have, so welcome to the REAL Democratic world.

    Hey, remember George W Bush...he tried to get individual SS plans passed...but your buddies (all idiots) squashed the attempt. SO mrb WHAT IS the ANSWER...I will play the idiot...how much is it? Or are you still in 8th grade math?

    My mother-in-law receives $1400.00 per month...I have calculated and posted many times that anyone in her position and work history should be receiving nearly $4000.00 per month.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:48 am on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    I understand that the Government spent the SS funds but didn't that happen on your watch and for the record any idiot with internet access can calculate simple and compound interest. My point was the money has been spent, that ship has sailed and current retirees should have seen that coming. If they had put aside an additional $1500 a year, averaged due to changes in wages, which is exactly what my generation has been asked to do as well as working longer, they would be no need for them to suffer. Again it was the best economic times known to this country at the height of the current retirees earning potential. How many times do I have to pay for the folly of the previous generation?

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:52 am on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2108

    I actually agree with Mr Barrow. I believe (strongly) that there needs to be a established level of income where a social security kicks in. If you have outside finances higher than the level you get ZERO. Below it you get what is needed to bring you to that level, or a base amount IF SS is your sole income.

    And YES, they did plan that poorly. A vast majority of Americans today are retiring with little to no savings. We are retiring broke. Most Americans are 1-3 months from living on the streets. There HAS to be a remolding of the American spending habit. A financial guy I listen to likes to say "Cash is King". Meaning if you can't pay cash for it, don't buy it.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:09 am on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    I never said anything about welfare, try to keep up what I said was for those who have done well enough in life that they do not require SS there is no reason for them to recieve it. It was designed as a safety net not a right. Those who currently accept SS that do not require it must understand that those funds are borrowed from the Chinese and their own grandchildren will be required to pay those funds back. This is a generation that lived through their highest earning years during the greatest economic boom this country has seen do they really need more help? Did the really plan so poorly?

  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:03 am on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Oh I disagree puff pastry is a complex device made through a series of folding butter into the flour to create flaky layers that grow to great heights during proper baking and melt away in the mouth. Cheetos I don't know so much about.

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:59 am on Tue, Mar 5, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrb: Did you take math in school past the eighth grade? Do you know what compound and simple interest are? Calculate a compound interest of 7.5% (avg bond rate from 1960 to 2010) on 1500 dollars per year for 50 years. Now divide that by 12 months for 15 years. How much do come up with? The average senior is being underpaid by more than 50%. Politicians lie, ignorant people believe and old people suffer...where is the equal pay in that?

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:58 pm on Mon, Mar 4, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    So mrb by your logic the retiree should get off their paid pension (SS) and apply for welfare assistance like bums do? That NEVER runs out. AND it is FREE. You don't even have to EARN it! Geeeezzzz!

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:20 pm on Mon, Mar 4, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Obviously mrb you have never cooked or baked. Take a look at a puff pastery once or one of your puffed cheetos...nothing but air made from hot air.

    Sorry Kevin...apparently the LNS wants you to fight this turbis on your own. I speak twelve languages so now I guess I have to write in them too.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:28 am on Mon, Mar 4, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Pat have you been hitting the sauce early puffery people? Please explain. As far as Obama resigning he aint no Pope you know. 3 years 9 months to go hang in there.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:22 am on Mon, Mar 4, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Glad you can finally see the Clinton in a positive light.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:15 am on Mon, Mar 4, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Why is it that the right keeps bringing up Reagan but the left can't mention the catastrophic administration of Georg W Bush?

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:12 am on Mon, Mar 4, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    It is not hard to decide who needs it we can simple base that on income besides today's retirees will recieve more than they paid into the system. How about we cut all of them off when the have recieved all of the funds they paid in?

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 1:07 pm on Sun, Mar 3, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2108

    So many responses. I'll keep it simple:

    "Do I really "epitomize intolerance and hate?" I think not. After all, YOU accused ME of being the "liberal" in the conversation and intolerance and hate are NOT part of the liberal philosophy - quite the reverse."

    Thank you for reveling more of your philosophy, a deep seeded belief that only liberals are incapable of being intolerance or hate. Such a deep seeded sense of superiority over your neighbors says much about you.

    "I have more charity and tolerance in my little finger than many In Lodi " ONLY for those you LIKE. As your repeated attacks on people here clearly demonstrate. Interesting how you make this claim then on another board claim a former teacher is a "taker" for claiming their hard earned pension. Some charitable attitude that is you have there.

    "so as a Roman Catholic, you do not support the church as a whole? You feel you have the option to pick and choose as you wish the parts you like?"

    Do you realize in your superior to all other tolerance, that you are the only one that attacks other people's faith? What church do you belong to that teaches to insult and attack other people's religious convictions?

    And YES I do feel I have the option to pick and choose what parts of the Catholic Church I like. I despise how the predator priests were handled. Pride and arrogance guided a few to allow fewer t harm MANY. And I have repeatedly said all involved should be prosecuted. There are other aspects of the Church I hope change. BUT my FAITH is not defined by what OTHER do. Over the course of my life the Catholic CHURCH and the wonderful people in it have been there and been a refuge when needed. THEY are the body of the Church. THEY sacrifice all they have to be examples of Christ to the world. THEY work to make the world a better place. And THEY are the people YOU say you are intolerant of.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:13 pm on Sun, Mar 3, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Where to begin?

    Mr. Paglia wrote: "And for the record: I do NOT support the "institution" of the Catholic Church as you described. "

    Hmmm...so as a Roman Catholic, you do not support the church as a whole? You feel you have the option to pick and choose as you wish the parts you like?

    There seems to be a lot about your chosen denominiation of Christianity of which you are unaware...as in loyalty, conviction and dedication to the precepts of "the institution" to name just a few.

    Mr. Paglia wrote: "To have someone who epitomizes intolerance and hate cast people like Mother Teresa as "supporting" the horrible actions of preditor priests says more about YOUR character than anything else."

    Do I really "epitomize intolerance and hate?" I think not. After all, YOU accused ME of being the "liberal" in the conversation and intolerance and hate are NOT part of the liberal philosophy - quite the reverse.

    Mother Teresa? Did I mention Mother Teresa? Much less say she supported preditor priests? Now that you mention her:

    Although Mother Teresa devoted her life to the poor, she was by far NOT perfect. In fact she inflicted her philosophy that people should experience the "suffering of Christ" on her many victims...errr...I mean the poor. She was, by no means, a saint except in her devotion to God.

    From Wikipedia: "Mother Teresa did not focus donated money on alleviating poverty or improving the conditions of her hospices, but on opening new convents and increasing missionary work. Mother Teresa accepted donations from the autocratic and corrupt Duvalier family in Haiti and openly praised them.

    She accepted $1.25 million from Charles Keating, involved in the fraud and corruption scheme known as the Keating Five scandal and supported him before and after his arrest. The Deputy District Attorney for Los Angeles, Paul Turley, wrote to Mother Teresa asking her to return the donated money to the people Keating had stolen from, one of whom was "a poor carpenter". The donated money was not accounted for, and Turley did not receive a reply."

    Hey...YOU brought up Mother Teresa, so much like the Catholic Church, there comes the good with the bad.

    MY "character?" I have more charity and tolerance in my little finger than many In Lodi - it just doesn't happen to include tolerance for molesters of children nor people who continue to support a religious denomination that HAS NOT done what it should have done to STOP and PREVENT further crimes.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:21 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2108

    I am for any entitlement program that helps A) someone who cannot do for themself, B) is TRYING to improve their situation themself.

    But since I am a Catholic who has REPEATEDLY said any preditor priest should face the FULL force of the law AND the ones who tried to "hide" should face the legal consequences as well, I know my opinions mean nothing to you.

    And for the record: I do NOT support the "institution" of the Catholic Church as you described. I DO support the Church that has through out history had many troubled times but also had MILLIONS of good, honorable people that sacrifice all they are to help others.

    To have someone who epitomizes intolerance and hate cast people like Mother Teresa as "supporting" the horrible actions of preditor priests says more about YOUR character than anything else.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:21 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    So, from the below comment, you are in support of welfare, food stamps and all of the other entitlement programs that help the poor?

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 2:51 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2108

    Ms Bobin stated "Imagine what could have been accomplished if Mr. Bush had sent cash instead of troops to Iraq."

    Amazing, they kill thousand of innocent people and liberals think we should PAY them for it. Appalling.

    I do agree that we stayed there for way too long. We should have been out by 2005 LATEST. But to PAY them for promoting killing innocent men, women and children who were just doing what they do every day??? I will NEVER think that is a good idea.

    This is one area where liberal spending is so far out of line with my political beliefs. US dollars need to help US citizens first. NOT pay people who promote killing US citizens. NOT operate nearly a thousand military bases in other countries (there was a time that was needed, but military advancements make that wasteful).

    IF/WHEN the US is in a strong financial position THEN helping other countris is a worthy expense. But when more and more cities are declaring bankrpucy, States are operating with more debt than many countries, then the US priority HAS to be helping them FIRST.

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:07 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    what seems like a good start to me is that all of these so-called disabled people grab a set of cajones and go look for a job. I know more than two dozen veterans with an arm, leg, legs and other debilitating injuries that are currently working in the construction field. Even more who are working in the financial and computer industries.

    I say a good start is for people mrh to get off the government train and find a real job.
    I say mrl should sue his history teacher.
    mrt should also completely read the cotext of his referals.
    BO should resign or at the least stop lieing and take responsibility for the mess he and his idiot cronies (who by the way are fleeing him in droves) have gotten us into.

    Ron...you should keep writing and don't get discouraged by the pancake spectacles presented by the puffery people. This is what they do...feign outrage...put forward pockets full of glitter, attack, attack, attack like the chiauau who thinks he is a Great Dane.

    Unless people like you, Mr Chapman, Mr Kinderman, Mr Paglia and Mr Walters call them on their phony barefoot firewalks (which are easily debunked by a sane person)...the "Obama mes" will continue to forward and spew the same lies their God in Chief is doing at this very moment..."Bush spent all of the money", I didn"t do it", it's cause he's black", "things ARE getting better", " the economy IS booming"...and even my favorite..."the rich need to pay their fair share". If you think about it...AH didn't kill all the Jews for religious purposes...he killed most of them for their jobs, businesses and their money. One more thing...guess who was complicit in his take over of Germany and Austria...the media...hmmm...

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:06 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Great idea if we were the only country in the world. Until that happens we HAVE TO make nice with everyone so we don't have any playground conflicts.

    Direct aid is partially balanced out with other benefits that prevent other expenditures such as unnecessary wars - think Iraq.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:03 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Cold War thinking - give money to our enemies and make them our friends. Plain and simple.

    Since we can allegedly no longer go around knocking off legitimately elected heads of state as we did in Chile with Allende and a whole bunch of others, we need to BUY our friends - thus continuing to give Egypt cash. Insurance against teaming up with Iran or other governments unfriendly to the US.

    The cost is cheap in comparison to the alternative.

    Imagine what could have been accomplished if Mr. Bush had sent cash instead of troops to Iraq. Unfortunately, when we did give cash to the newly installed governments of Afghanistan and Iraq that are supposedly "US friendly," we didn't oversee it and the new "US friendly" governments stole it for personal use anyway.

    After having our rear-ends handed to us by North Vietnam, guess who we give a WHOLE BUNCH of CASH to now? Why? So they don't go relying on China and Russia. So we can maintain trade agreements. So they can benefit from US tourism, etc., etc.

    This is what we should be doing with Cuba. End the embargo and begin trade and diplomatic relations. Unfortunately, we have to wait until the group of entitled Cubans, the corrupt class that Castro kicked out of Cuba, die off. Younger Cubans don't really care about Castro anymore and see the pros of re-establishing relations with that country.

  • Ron Portal posted at 10:21 am on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Not a bad idea!!

  • Ron Portal posted at 10:11 am on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    I should proof read before I post...the first part of my message to you should of been "you can keep calling the facts about Reagan myths all you want"

  • Ron Portal posted at 10:09 am on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    You can keep calling the facts about Reagan all you want...but facts and documentation of those facts is better than basing your conclusions on a personal dislike for him.

  • Ron Portal posted at 10:03 am on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    I don't have a problem with helping out our friends in foreign lands its when we give aid to professed enemies of the United States with little or no control of where that money ends up.

  • Ron Portal posted at 10:00 am on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Don't know who is saying that this is all Obama's fault but not I. The president who added more gov't in history aside from FDR was George W. Bush. A man who supposedly has the only MBA of any president added the biggest entitlements since Johnson. This problem has been going on for at least 100 years. The problem with Obama is that he is the Bushes, Carter, Johnson, FDR, Woodrow Wilson in one person and on STERIODS!! And he is a pathological lier who makes Clinton look like the harbinger of truth and justice. Look at this sequester..Woodword comes out with the revelation that it wasn't the republicans idea but Obama's. Deny, deny,deny. Then Sen. Max Baucus[D-Mt] among others says it was and now we're feeling the effects [KTVQ-TV 2.19.13]. Jay Carney admits it was the White House's idea and yet Obama goes out everyday blaming republicans, Bush, and anyone else that pops into that cesspool of a brain for the sequester, the economy, the weather...you name it and it's someone else's fault and all he [Obama] can do is work his weak little fingers to the bone from the moment he wakes til he lays his exhausted head down to rest trying to right the wrongs that everyone else has caused that he had nothing to do with...because he loves and cares for us. And his blind followers believe this BS. And as for foreign aid, Ms. Bobin, give to our friends and screw our enemies.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 2:48 pm on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1671

    BTW. You need to revise your political playbook because thinas have been and continue getting better. Shouldn't we give a little credit? And as for the $85 bil what is your complaint? Aren't you with the speaker of the house feeling you got 98% of what you wanted?

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 2:37 pm on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1671

    Sorry its my auto-reaction to history deficient people who want to revise conveniently the facts that got us to this state of affairs. As long as someone says its all Obamas fault and profess to understand the constitution I guess the repitition will necessarily go on. I'm not the least bit happy about this either.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 2:12 pm on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2108

    Wonder what will happen to geo politics when the US collapses under financial burden.

    I've said it before, helping other countries before paching our leaking ship will only bring everybody down. IF/WHEN the US is in a strong financial position then help all we can. But we can't help anyone with our own house failing.

  • Ed Walters posted at 1:39 pm on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 638

    Mr. Heuer: Your putting much of the downfall on George Bush, How long will this go on, seems everything that could go bad belongs to George Bush, maybe forever? Barry has been in office over 4 years now and I don`t see anything getting better. His latest act is removing $85 billion dollars out of the economy. More Yawn?

    Joanne: As far as assistance to foreigh lands go, the US is or has sent 20 F-16 jet fighters along with 45 American M6OA3 Patton, along with M-1 Abrams tanks to be shipped to Cairo for final assembly, now thats some assistance.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:22 pm on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    It always makes me laugh when I hear people say that we need to "stop assistance to foreign lands." Shows they have absolutely no comprehension of geo politics.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 12:03 pm on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 557

    then how come this happened?

    perhaps because of this...

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:59 am on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1671

    OK yawn, don't forget Bush's contribution and republican obstruction continueing to keep us from taking necessary steps to improve the economy. And by republicans I mean the right wing of the republican party, namely the atrocious tea partiers.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:51 am on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1671

    The myth keeps growing. Dream on. Next we will have Reagan on the ceiling of the capital rotunda with Geo Washington in heavenly spleder.

  • Ron Portal posted at 7:44 am on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    And again...if a person[s] has earned the benefits that the gov't allots...who are you to say they "don't need it"? It's the same as Obama saying that a certain income is enough because "they don't need it"...or a certain income group needs to be taxed more than all others to pay their "fair share"...because with their income they "don't need it". No one has any business [especially gov't] telling others how much they're allowed to earn...

  • Ron Portal posted at 7:35 am on Fri, Mar 1, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Reagan had a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Each time these tax proposals came up Reagan insisted that for every tax dollar collected there had to be a dollar cut in spending. Sen. Dole was Reagan's point man on this and gave Reagan assurances that his counterpart on the Democratic side had agreed to this arrangement and being a good RINO [Republican in name only] Dole actually believed Democrats would carry through on their promises which, of course, never happened. It's just like this sequester... it's a 2.3% cut in the "growth" of the federal budget. Everyone is getting budgeted more money than they received last year except the military who even before this sequester had their budgets cut by over $500 billion. I believe, if I remember correctly, the sequester would add about another $50 billion over a 10 year period. Historically, the Democratic Party has been anti-military after the Johnson administration and the advent of the McGovern wing which is radically left in their politics. The only thing this generation of Democrats are willing to cut is military spending...and nothing else.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 2:29 pm on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    Didn't Reagan raise taxes 6 times during his Administration?

  • Eric Barrow posted at 10:22 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    We are not talking about taking anything from anybody we are discussing not giving government aid (my tax dollars) to those who don't need it it's a safety net not a right.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:08 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2108

    I agree that most of our subsidies need to end. I would even go so far as to say most of the handouts to other countries. I would end those before ending any outreach programs to individual American citizens. Of course I also would limit the pay of these professional politicians who care more about protecting their party's power than serving the country.

  • Ron Portal posted at 9:25 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Ahhh! Very good comrade! More redistribution of wealth from those filthy capitalists who work to those virtuous comrades that don't. You will be awarded more rations from the elderly of your choice...it being so unfair that they have had more time on earth to acquire more wealth than you. They must be punished for their lifetime of hard work!! We must put their name in with the death panels of Obamacare so when they need life saving medical services they will be denied and die as all capitalists must!! And just to be clear...that's called sarcasm...

  • Ron Portal posted at 8:42 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    I went to work at 4pm yesterday and got home at 6:30 this am. I see no messages responding to my messages so I'm going to bed. I tell you this so if you do respond and you see I don't answer I don't want you to think I'm speechless in the face of your towering intellects....

  • Ron Portal posted at 8:23 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Also history shows that the greatest peacetime economic boom was during the Reagan administration, then comes Coolidge and then JFK...

  • Ron Portal posted at 8:21 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    Have you been living in a cave these last 4 years? This president has put us in debt by over a trillion dollars per year...that's your idea of a booming economy??

  • Ron Portal posted at 7:54 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Ron Portal Posts: 120

    As a hazmat tanker driver that goes to refineries in the Bay Area to bring back chemicals used mostly for agriculture I can tell you first hand that the federal, state, and local gov'ts tax every facet of each step in the production and transportation of every chemical or fuel that goes into the refinery and out of the refinery. We're talking billions in revenues [taxes]. As for subsidies...oil companies get tax breaks for exploration [not all are successful and most are dangerous], production and transport of products. They are common in every business in America. They are not subsidies as in solar or wind where the American taxpayer shells out billions of dollars for "green" energies that one by one goes belly-up leaving the taxpayers holding the bag and these bankrupt "green" company execs [Obama supporters all] raking in their ill gotten largesse from Americans who have no recourse in getting this money back. The oil companies take no money from the taxpayer. As for Israel,during the Clinton administration Congress passed a law and Willy signed it that states that we will protect and come to the defense of the state of Israel. The United States gov't cannot allow Israel to be defenseless by law, even though we have an anti-Semite as President and a newly Sec. of Defense [Hagel] who has shown in the past in actions and word that he hates Israel and is pro-Iranian and pro-Palestinian [Hamas]. By law they must defend our best and only ally in the Middle East. To call it welfare speaks volumes of your prejudice to the only democracy in that part of the world that is surrounded by nations that consider them sub-human and want and preach the total annihilation of an entire people from the face of the earth. That fact alone would cause anyone with a conscience to come their aid.

  • John Lucas posted at 7:52 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    If you want a booming economy do not elect Republicans. That is what history teaches us.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:36 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

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    I'm on board with that Steve how about eliminating farm subsidies and why aren’t entitlements included in sequestrations. An article put out by the Boston Globe 2011 states that according to census data the typical U.S. household headed by a person age 65 or older has a net worth 47 times greater than a household headed by someone under 35, The article goes on to quote Harry Holzer, a labor economist and public policy professor at Georgetown University "It makes us wonder whether the extraordinary amount of resources we spend on retirees and their health care should be at least partially reallocated to those who are hurting worse than them,"

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:59 am on Thu, Feb 28, 2013.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    How about eliminating the subsidies given to the multinational oil companies? That seems like a good place to start. Then, perhaps, we could follow up with the billions of dollars in international welfare that we give Israel.


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