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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:53 am, Wed Sep 26, 2012.

In previous election years, I probably commented on the memory retention of typical U.S. voters as I tried to send a message that the cycle repeats every four years to no avail. Hearing from the conventions, I heard optimism on both sides, including expressions of optimism.

The Democrats reminded us that Osama bin Laden is dead, General Motors was rescued and we have health care. Was bin Laden not already dead, and where is the corpse? Did we benefit from the General Motors bailout and from the revised health care? As for Romney, I am sure that I could scrutinize him equally as well.

In previous years, I never heard a politician state that the economy would collapse by the exporting of jobs to foreign nations or by "problems" in banking; that foreclosures and unemployment would reach 10 percent; or that California home prices would collapse upside-down while promissory notes were being "securitized" in private trusts on Wall Street. I wonder how many politicians have confessed that the economy of Detroit would collapse by foreign manufacturing of American automobiles, and by treaty agreements. Ditto for the textile, steel and aluminum industries.

I am sure that people were cheering the conventions from the front of their televisions. If the political speeches were truth, then why do we need to be told? Do we not have our own brains capable of assessing the state of the economy?

Daniel Hutchins

Acampo

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26 comments:

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:21 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1593

    ThanksJoanen I saw this too and was taken off guard at another Limbach sex obsessive comment refering to sex allegations as rape? You are quite right in your assessment.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:04 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "You leaft off that lie...I did not rape those five women...not a single one... that Bill Clinton wants us to believe... which lie is bigger Mr Schmidt..."

    Seems prejudicial here....the huge list of women Mr. Baumbach continually posts who have accused Clinton of sex crimes is believable - but children who accuse priests of rape are not believable.

    Mr. Baumbach accuses the latter of "jumping on the bandwagon" in order to get a huge cash payout, but all these women of course do not have the same motive.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 9:17 am on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    Darrell: On the other letter, I gave you some terms to look-up in the law dictionary (on-line), and I don't see any evidence that you looked them up.

    If you don't look-up these terms, and other terms in the future, you can't complain about not understanding.

    This is the fall of America. The average IQ of Americans is below 100.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:02 am on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Daniel stated...Darrell: I am sorry if I offended you or if I was rude

    Daniel, I have never perceived you to be rude nor have I ever been offended by what you have posted over time and currently.

    I was simply confused and couldn't imagine what I could have said in my post that led you to ask the question you did... I actually prefer and appreciate anyone who attempts to offer thought without insulting the intelligence of another.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:33 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    "Everything that Clinton said was fact checked and he did not tell any lies."

    GOOD GRIEF!

    How hard is it to put "Clinton DNC fact checked" into your favorite search engine and digest some truth?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:30 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Daniel is referring to Bush Sr. Mr. Kinderman.

    Why don't you tell everyone how 9/11 was used to destroy and annul the Cantor Fitzgerald contracts Daniel. On second thought, never mind, truth isn't digested here. Ignorance and apathy reign supreme. Fact is fiction and TV is reality. Never mind the fact that DHS has ordered close to 2 BILLION rounds of hollow point ammo within the last 9 months. [sleeping] we're "in recovery" LOL...

    Keep sipping the Kool-Aid and watching your TV's zombies...

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 7:35 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    "I do not think it is possible for most people to comprehend"

    Darrell: I am sorry if I offended you or if I was rude. A lot of people have your same opinion, and I am looking at it as just an example of a lot of peoples' thinking. There is no excuse for not understanding. In order to break free of the bondage of being a lowly US citizen, it is necessary to comprehend and to be informed of the activities of the people who are controlling and manipulating popular opinion through the news media, especially through the television.

    The PTB are comprised of some extremely intelligent people. Therefore it is necessary to do a lot of study to defend against them. One of the most intelligent public figures that I have ever seen is Bill Clinton, so it will take a lot of study to get on top of comprehending what is the truth behind what he is saying.

    I am sure that the PTB privately laugh at us and ridicule us. In fact, Chelsea Clinton quoted her parents one time to a lowly mere subordinate person who was guarding them with his life. (Secret Service.)

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 7:23 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    Sorry, can't tell. This is a public forum.
    If you really want to know, you are going to have to find the specific information yourself. This information was previously posted by a journalist by the name of Christopher Story.
    The journalism is out there. If you really want to know, and if you really want to find it, you can.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:33 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    You leaft off that lie...I did not rape those five women...not a single one... that Bill Clinton wants us to believe... which lie is bigger Mr Schmidt...

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:50 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1151

    "don't leave us hanging like"

    OK.

    For Jerome, a riddle...

    What's round on the ends and high in the middle?

    Ohio

    So goes Ohio, so goes the nation!

    [wink]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 2:48 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2363

    Mr. Hutchins - why not reveal the name of the criminal who is giving Obama his orders? Maybe no one else cares, but I really do want to know as it might affect my vote in November. (George Soros perhaps?) Please don't leave us hanging like this; it isn't fair!!

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 2:39 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2574

    Which lie would I rather hear from my President?

    "I did not have sex with that woman"

    OR

    "I don't recall trying to scalp that gay screaming gay guy while 9 of my buddies held him down"

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:40 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Heuer stated...Everything that Clinton said was fact checked and he did not tell any lies

    One thing I know. There are only three absolutes... Death, Taxes, and if any politicians lips are moving, they will lie.

    Maybe Mr Bill Clinton is the lone politician in human history that can talk for one hour and not tell one lie, but some how ( Mr .I did not have sex with that woman)
    I find it difficult to believe.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:32 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    Daniel stated...Darrell: You are saying that you prefer to tune into your television to download your daily programming.


    Daniel, please explain what I said that would lead you to ask the above question. The conclusion you drew is not close. you asked a question about "we" and I responded by referring to "most people's" ...

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:38 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1593

    Everything that Clinton said was fact checked and he did not tell any lies. You prbably heard me as well cheering and I am not a "professional audience". The speech was full of statistics and specifics that were sorely missing in the rebip convention and even still. Believe me you didn't miss much in the RNC convention.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:36 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I think Mr. Baumbach was saying that it's all over his head, too!

    Unless he secretly has an advanced degree in economics that he hasn't told anyone about.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 11:16 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    I was astonished to see that when Clinton speak, the lies flowed out of his mouth seemingly in every sentence. Then the crowd of professional audience applauded to create the illusion of support and agreement.

    Obama's wife? How can she sleep at night being married to America's #2* sell-out?

    *#1 sell-out is the criminal who I will not name here who is giving Obama his orders. Certainly Mrs. Obama must have enough of a presence in her husband's life to see who is giving his orders.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 11:07 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    Thomas: I did not willfully expose myself to either convention. However, powers that be (wife) forced me to endure the presence of the democratic convention in my living room, and I had nowhere to go. She does not listen to the republicans, and she accuses me of being republican, so she did not play the republican convention. I could not escape clips of the republican convention in my daily activities as news clips were forced upon me against my will, everywhere I turned. Consequently I was forced to endure more of the democratic convention than the republican one.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:50 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    Thank you Joanne,
    I have more important things to worry about.
    I didn't even know his first name. Is it Willard?

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:48 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    Darrell: You are saying that you prefer to tune into your television to download your daily programming.

     
  • daniel hutchins posted at 10:45 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1339

    typtypo? "including expressions of optimism" in the economy?o? "including expressions of optimism" in the economy?

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 10:05 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1593

    I really appreciate the comment "The Democrats reminded us that Osama bin Laden is dead, General Motors was rescued and we have health care ...As for Romney, I am sure that I could scrutinize him equally as well." This really tells of the messaging success of the dems and the failure of messaging of the repubs. He can remember what was said at the dems convention but would have to "scrutinize" to find the repubs.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:51 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "As for Romney, I am sure that I could scrutinize him equally as well."

    Oh, darn! Daniel did such a great job "scrutinizing" (something), wish he had done the same for Willard.

    We are all the poorer for not having his insight.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:00 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Did printing vast quantities of money work for the Weimar Republic? Nope. And it won’t work for us either. Better get your wheelbarrows ready.

    http://youtu.be/2N8gJSMoOJc

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:20 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Daniel stated...Do we not have our own brains capable of assessing the state of the economy?

    Since most people cannot comprehend the laws on the books that affect the economy, I do not think it is possible for most people to comprehend the intended and unintended consequences and results that influences the success and failure of the economy.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:56 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2574

    Awesome letter! Keep up the good work Daniel.

     

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