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Posted: Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:00 am

Presidents most often are substandard. The current dummy in the White House has set new lows.

Obama’s Secretary of State John Kerry and his foul-mouthed assistant Victoria Neuland took $5 million to the Ukraine, where they recruited skids, malcontents and right-wing crazies to violently overthrow the elected, corrupt regime.

In other words, Obama’s crooked administration didn’t like the Ukrainian corrupt government because he couldn’t control them. Obama favors governments that his vulture capitalist and other predatory banking institutes can suck the life blood from, making them slave nations and then exploiting their resources. This is what Washington, D.C. and the European leaders excel at. Obama also prefers national leaders accept that sick, depraved lifestyle he so zealously obsesses on. The worst, in his mind, are pro-Russia leaders.

Covert operations in the Ukraine were somewhat successful; however, they backfired. The Russian majority in Crimea were so appalled at the American subversive interventions, they opted to peacefully vote to join Russia. No one was killed and no Russian troops or tanks invaded the Crimea, contrary to the lies Obama and the federally controlled corporate news media so blatantly broadcast. With egg on his face, Obama now wants to punish Russia with sanctions, even if, as he says, it hurts Europe and the world economy. Only a mentally deranged person would make such a statement.

In a recent speech before a European audience, Obama presented misinformation. He condemned the peaceful secession of Crimea, but praised the U.S.-NATO-led bombings of Serbia and the illegal partition of Kosovo. With no shame on his face, he justified Bush’s violent invasion of Iraq, displacing millions and making carnage of 1.5 million people. Obama’s criminal foreign policies in eastern Europe and the Middle East have made him the most vicious, evil human being to ever enter American politics, opening the door to blow back.

There are no rational negotiations with such a twisted person. Negotiations with such a person is only capitulation. No world leader who opposes him or stays neutral is safe. Even the Pope is in danger with this sociopath in power.

Adam Dados

Lodi

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98 comments:

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:29 pm on Tue, Apr 15, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Another unsubstantiated lie. [lol]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:52 am on Tue, Apr 15, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    Bobbin, as bad as liberals want to embroil Christie in criminal activities, they are failing miserably. Liberals are biting their fingernails and trying ti vilify every potential conservative threat they face in the 2016 elections. Liberals are so gullible.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:43 am on Tue, Apr 15, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    Bobbin posted: "I suppose you thought Richard Nixon was as pure as the driven snow, also, eh, Baxxter?"
    As a matter of fact, I never voted for Nixon and didn’t care for him as POTUS. But at least he had the integrity to resign his office after he got caught in a scandal that pales in comparison to the ones Barry Boy and his liberal stooges have committed. Liberals are so gullible.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:47 pm on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    [rolleyes]...[yawn]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:26 pm on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Your point?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:25 pm on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Actually, I saw video of this same story on both CNN and MSNBC on Friday night as both sides were gearing up for the confrontation.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:24 pm on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Not yet, he hasn't.

    Consevatives are so gullible...I suppose you thought Richard Nixon was as pure as the driven snow, also, eh, Baxxter?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:23 pm on Sun, Apr 13, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Of course I can. [sleeping]

    Google can tell the date/time when a web page was first published on the Web Ms. Bobin.

    Step 1. Go to google.com and copy-paste the full URL of the web page in the search box along with the inurl: operator (e.g. inurl:www.example.com). Hit enter.

    Step 2. Now go to your browser address bar (Ctrl+L in Firefox or Alt+D in Internet Explorer) and copy-paste “&as_qdr=y15″ at the end of the Google search URL. Hint enter again.

    Step 3. Google will load the results again and this time, you’ll see the actual publication date of the web page next to the title in Google search results.

    With that said, it's time for YOU to "PROVE" we didn't break the story.

    Please provide 1 link that pre-dates ours.

    YOU CAN'T! [sleeping]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:39 pm on Sun, Apr 13, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    Yeah, kinda like MSNBC.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:32 pm on Sun, Apr 13, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1850

    Bobbin posted: "Too bad Christie turned out to be a crook. I might have voted for him!"
    Ahh, spoken like a true liberal. Villifying Christie when, in fact, he has not been charged nor convicted of ANYTHING. Liberal smear propaganda, at its finest. Liberals are so gullible.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:12 am on Sun, Apr 13, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "...Meanwhile we break yet another national news story.

    http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/"

    WE??? [lol]

    Inforwars and about 200 websites all ran the same story. How do you PROVE that "we" had it first? You can't!

    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:00 am on Sat, Apr 12, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Are you actually AWARE that President Pinnocchio appointed Michael Taylor to head the FDA despite his promise to label GMO's?
    [sleeping]

    Are you actually AWARE that DDT has been banned since 1972 long before Monsanto's GMO's ever existed? [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:50 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    [rolleyes]...Meanwhile we break yet another national news story.

    http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:55 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Kevin, You obviously don't know what you are talking about either. Your 11+million number is referring to the number of "Likes" CNN's Facebook page has received.
    [sleeping]

    And what part of "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined" are you struggling with Kevin?[lol]

    P.S. Our website currently receives over 200,000 hits per minute!
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:30 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    No Kevin, The 3 million+ number clearly substantiates the fact that Infowars has more LISTENERS than CNN and MSNBC combined.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 3:26 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    APPLES TO APPLES via Alexa [sleeping]

    Infowars
    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/infowars.com[sleeping]

    MSNBC
    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/msnbc.com[sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:33 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Thanks Kevin

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:33 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    I know Kevin but sometimes Andrew is so blatantly wrong I would think even he can see his errors but I am usually wrong.

    I do the same thing with Rush, love that show especially the callers they have been convinced so thoroughly that Rush is right that they are certain the left is trying to destroy the country. I especially like it when the callers present a theory they think is original when it actually just mimics what Rush already said. I think he laughs secretly at his pet name for his fans dittoheads I mean where can you get free entertainment like that?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:25 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Listeners? what foolishness, you are still comparing apples to oranges besides why don't you compare CNN on line to infowars online you are comparing a TV show to a website and as I said before that is a false comparison the are two different media sources and should not be compared also to help you out I will include a link to Alexa that clearly states that CNN is in the top websites and infowars is far below. I prefer to look to the source and not your second hand information.

    OK I'm going to make this real easy, here is the top twenty news websites listed by Alexa (again your reference not mine)
    1)News.yahoo.com
    2)Cnn.com
    3)Reddit.com
    4)Huffingtonpost.com
    5)Nytimes.com
    6)Weather.com
    7)news.google.com/
    8)Theguardian.com
    9)Foxnews.com
    10)Bbc.co.uk/news/
    11)Forbes.com
    12)Timesofindia.indiatimes.com
    13)Shutterstock.com
    14)Online.wsj.com
    15)Reuters.com
    16)Usatoday.com
    17)Washingtonpost.com
    18)Nbcnews.com
    19)Time.com
    20)Bloomberg.com
    As you can see CNN is #2
    and here is where you can find them

    http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/News

    Also here is where you can see that infowars is #370 in "LISTENERS" in the USA and 1320 worldwide.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/infowars.com
    Can you handle the rest on your own or do you need further assistance?

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:11 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2028

    And if you really want to compare numbers look at their respective FB numbers. 11+million JUST for CNN, a little over 200,000 for Infowars.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:06 pm on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2028

    Eric, aside from arguing with a conspiracy fanatic, you are approaching the argument wrong. When Watching CNN or MSNBC, I am sure that those people are also LISTENING to it as well. Who watches the news with the volume off. SO if you are arguing the number of LISTENERS you HAVE to include the people watching as well.

    Of course the 3million + number only proves that there are a large number of people who are either devoid of common sense, love to laugh at idiocy or some combination of.

    On long drives at night I use to turn in Coast to Coast with Art Bell just cause it was entertaining (Like watching Ancient Aliens) to listen to the guests talking about their delusions.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:47 am on Fri, Apr 11, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    How many times do I have to say it? The comparison made was LISTENERS TO LISTENERS!!! I said, "Infowars has 3X more LISTENERS than CNN and MSNBC combined."
    [sleeping]

    Every day 394,000 people LISTEN to MSNBC.
    Every day 383,000 people LISTEN to CNN.

    Every day 3+ million people LISTEN to Infowars.

    What part of "Infowars has 3X more LISTENERS than CNN and MSNBC combined" can't you comprehend?
    [sleeping]

    P.S. I CLEARLY demonstrated in my 4:00 pm Fri, Apr 4, 2014 post that Alexa does NOT say that.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 9:03 am on Thu, Apr 10, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    So you are saying that you weren't comparing television ratings to website ratings? because like I said if you compare websites to websites your argument goes out the window at least that's what alexa says (your reference not mine). So you are either comparing apples to oranges or you are just wrong. I'd say someone is confused.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:04 pm on Wed, Apr 9, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The comparison made was LISTENERS TO LISTENERS or if you prefer("apples to apples").

    LISTENERS TO LISTENERS IS APPLES TO APPLES!!!

    The problem is you aren't LISTENING! [sleeping]


     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 9:55 am on Wed, Apr 9, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Andrew are telling me you are comparing web hits to television viewers what nonsense, no wonder I'm confused you might as well compare tv viewers to book readers I'll bet even Rachel Maddox has more viewers than there is readers of all alex jones books together. What a joke.

    If you would kindly compare websites to websites (apples to apples) you will find that infowars resides in the obscure. and many other respectable news media websites greatly overshadow infowars, alex jones and his extreme followers.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:54 am on Tue, Apr 8, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Walters wrote: "I understand you like Jeb Bush in `16."

    Actually, Mr. Walters I do. I'm sure that YOU TOO will be appreciating his views on IMMIGRATION AND IMMIGRATION REFORM, right? Following in the footsteps of Obama with regard to the DREAM Act, right?

    He may as well have just committed suicide on FOX News and I doubt the GOP will support him in any way.

    Too bad Christie turned out to be a crook. I might have voted for him!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:48 am on Tue, Apr 8, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    INFOWARS IS A NEWS WEBSITE?

    News only for those that believe all the nonsense it contains.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:45 am on Tue, Apr 8, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Liebich wrote: Did Obama ink his name to H.R. 933 containing the "no such thing" Farmer Assurance Provision, Sec. 735 AKA “Monsanto Protection Act” despite his promise to label GMO's?"

    Are you actually AWARE how our government works, Mr. Liebich?

    You are AWARE that HR933 was a huge bill and that the president DOES NOT HAVE line item veto power, right?

    As far as Agent Orange goes, Monsanto was ONE of NINE manufacturers of that chemical. Agent Orange had been in use for decades before it was used in Vietnam.

    If you want to assign blame, BLAME THE US GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY for using the chemical. Monsanto and the others did not hold a gun to the heads of the Pentagon chiefs in order to force them to use it.

    The Veterans Administration is handling compensation for those affected by Agent Orange use, so Monsanto and others are out of the picture.

    If you care so much about the damage that chemical manufacturers are doing, why don't you advocate for all of the MEXICAN FARMWORKERS who worked in fields saturated with DDT? The effects of DDT exposure is horrendous.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:41 am on Tue, Apr 8, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Explain what? The FBI scrubbed the SPLC from its hate crimes webpage on 3/26/14 so you provide an article Nimmo wrote nearly 4 years ago?
    [huh]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:38 am on Tue, Apr 8, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    No, you are still incredibly confused. It's as baffling as it is comical.[lol]

    MSNBC currently averages 394,000 total viewers.
    CNN currently averages 383,000 total viewers.

    394,000 + 383,000 = 777,000 total viewers

    Infowars has 3+ million listeners.

    What part of "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined" can't you comprehend?[lol]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:38 am on Tue, Apr 8, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Sorry Andrew I guess I was confused now I see what you are talking about. You combined MSNBC rating that is far less than infowars with CNN rating which is far higher that infowars the average of CNN and MSNBC may be lower than infowars but CNN alone is far higher than infowars as is 300 other news websites including NY Times, Huffington Post, USA today even the Times of India ranks in the top 20 well above infowars ranking of 365. Very sneaky of you, of course I could average out infowars with a less obscure website (if there are any) and achieve the same result it's not honest but it does look good doesn't it.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:06 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    I didn't claim they were involved either. Actually, both were overseas at the time. I said both expressed beliefs during the writing and both did. They expressed beliefs during the writing means they expressed beliefs during the writing.

    Good grief. [rolleyes]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:47 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Liebich wrote: "Newsflash Ms. Bobin...the FBI has scrubbed the Southern Poverty Law Center from its hate crimes webpage. "

    How do you explain this then, Mr. Liebich? Straight from Alex Jones:

    http://www.infowars.com/splc-dhs-community-officials-team-up-to-attack-patriot-groups/

    Actually, if this is to be believed, that is. Doubtful...........

    And I suppose it depends on your "DEFINITION" of "Patriot Groups."

    Most are "patriot groups" who want to OVERTHROW the federal government by armed force. What do you think they are going to do? Put them on the "Top People to Invite to the White House" list?

    Here from USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/05/southern-poverty-law-center-militias-gun-control/1964411/

    [sleeping]

    The irrationality is astounding!!! Must be all that poisonous spray from the contrails. I can find no other explanation!!

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 4:59 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 400

    I'm sorry, I thought "during the writing" meant "during the writing..." The Philadelphia Convention was completely done in secret, so I don't understand how you can imply that Adams or Jefferson were involved in the process in any way--present or not. Or, how American Death Watch can imply this, that is.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:41 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Nielsen rates TELEVISION SHOWS! Infowars is not a television show.
    [sleeping]

    The information I provided from Nielsen was as follows:
    posted at 8:51 am on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.
    "According to Nielsen MSNBC currently averages 394,000 total viewers. CNN currently averages 383,000 total viewers."

    Alexa rates WEBSITES!
    [sleeping]

    If you can't look at the MSNBC and CNN Nielsen numbers and compare them to the Infowars Alexa numbers I can't help you.
    [sleeping]

    Please read my statement again, read it 3 times, maybe write it down, whatever it takes for it to sink in...

    "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined."
    "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined."
    "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined."

    P.S. It's actually more like 5X but I don't want to add to your confusion.
    [lol]

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 4:35 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 548

    Boben: You continue to support Barry, evidently you are not aware that this country is broke, and China owns more than you think, you do not have to blindly support him, however I have never read anything to the fact that you don`t. As far as the right or left wing crazies are concerned, no guess work as to where you stand. Keep in mind, $17 trillion dollars, and rising, a subject you cannot talk your way out of, $7 trillion in the last 6 years. I understand you like Jeb Bush in `16. [beam]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:15 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Did Obama ink his name to H.R. 933 containing the "no such thing" Farmer Assurance Provision, Sec. 735 AKA “Monsanto Protection Act” despite his promise to label GMO's?

    Yes.

    Did funding for the Farmer Assurance Provision, Sec. 735 expire on September 30, 2013?

    Yes.

    Have you expressed one negative thought on the matter despite the fact that Monsanto produced the Agent Orange responsible for your husbands disability?

    No.

    Is that indicative of blind support?

    Yes.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:59 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Your inability to acknowledge the fact that Obama's DHS has described any American that holds traditional patriotic values as a "potential terrorist" does speak volumes.
    [lol]

    Newsflash Ms. Bobin...the FBI has scrubbed the Southern Poverty Law Center from its hate crimes webpage.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:51 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Liebich wrote: "why do you continue to blindly support a President who appoints Michael Taylor to head the FDA and then signs the Monsanto Protection Act?"

    Point One: I DO NOT "blindly support" President Obama. That is an assumption that YOU have made. I have NEVER stated such an opinion.

    Point Two: There is no such thing as the Monsanto Protection Act. You state this as though it is a STAND ALONE law. It was actually part of the large appropriations bill signed by Obama in March 2013 that allowed the government to stay open.

    Point Three: The so-called Monsanto Protection Act has been REPEALED as of October 2013 after many legislators found out it was in that appropriations bill.

    As someone who opposes ALL government/government officials/government policies/legislators/the courts, etc. - I have to ask....just what is it about the United States that you DO LIKE except for Alex Jones and Infowars?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:14 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    I looked up infowars at Nielsen's website they have no record of infowars and alexa is the site that I originally sited were infowars was way down and I mean way down the list from many other news websites including CNN which ranked in the top 20 so you must be mistaken perhaps you could provide a direct link to your information, something besides youtube.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:02 pm on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "The centralized federal government from which our Founding Fathers hoped to protect us now considers the characteristics of our Founding Fathers to be indicators of “terrorism" Ms. Bobin. If you can't see that we are being "forced away from what the Founder's had intended" you must be blind."

    Here, Mr. Liebich. Check out this website (which has actually DOCUMENTED PROOF that many of the individuals you claim Obama has unjustly included as terrorists) are actually TERRORISTS.

    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/

    And please don't repeat Darrel Baumbach's assinine contention that the SPLC is a FAR LEFT organization since they keep tabs on both right wing and left wing crazies.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:51 am on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Aside from the FACT that you totally made up your statement that "They are YOUR words saying that our serving military and former service members are to be FEARED," and since I don't see my extensive rebuttal to your fabrication that I think ALL MILITARY members should be feared, here is some material you might want to read:

    Two More Members of FEAR Terror Group Plead to Murder

    By Don Terry on April 3, 2014 - 3:14 pm, Posted in Antigovernment, Domestic Terrorism, Extremist Crime

    The two triggermen for a murderous militia of renegade American soldiers pleaded guilty today in a Georgia courtroom to shooting to death a former soldier and his 17-year-old girlfriend a few weeks before Christmas 2011.

    The couple was lured to a patch of woods in the middle of the night and killed, according to prosecutors, to keep secret the militia’s delusional plans to overthrow the government through a terror campaign of murder and mayhem. The group’s plans included the eventual assassination of their commander-in-chief, the president of the United States.

    The soldiers called their broken band of brothers Forever Enduring, Always Ready, or FEAR for short.

    Dressed in a business suit, his wrists and ankles shackled, Pvt. Christopher Salmon was the first of the two confessed killers to appear before Judge Robert L. Russell in Long County Superior Court this morning and enter his plea – guilty on two counts of murder and other charges.

    Salmon, 27, who faced the death penalty, was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole as part of a negotiated plea agreement, the prosecutor, Isabel Pauley, told Hatewatch today, adding that the disgraced soldier was the second in command of FEAR, the close friend and confidant of the group’s ringleader, Pvt. Isaac Aguigui.
    They were like brothers,” Pauley said.

    On March 27, Aguigui, 22, already serving his own life sentence for the murder of the couple, was found guilty in an Army court of murdering his wife, Sgt. Deirdre Wetzker Aguigui, and their unborn child. The sergeant was seven months pregnant when she was killed in her apartment on Fort Stewart in July 2011. The militia leader also received a life sentence in that case. "

    But according to Mr. Paglia, we should revere EVERY SINGLE military or ex-military member and laud them for their sacrificial service - including this bunch of dangerous clowns.

    Perhaps you should read a bit more about what's going on in the world, Mr. Paglia. Then you wouldn't be making silly accusations about others' comments.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:22 am on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    I have already provided you with 2,990,000 articles substantiating my claim, a link to alexa and I directly quoted Nielsen. Honestly, what planet are you on? [sleeping]

    Perhaps the following video can awaken you from your Putin, Crimea and the Ukraine slumber.

    http://youtu.be/fWkfpGCAAuw


     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:38 am on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Try putting my original comments in context. Here is the ENTIRE quote:

    "And don't I recall - just off the top of my head - that McVeigh, Hasan and Lopez - all domestic terrorists - and all military or ex-military - have been responsible for shootings and bombings?

    But you will still defend that we have nothing to fear from ex-military, right?"

    If I need to map this out for you, Mr. Paglia, then here it is.

    Mr. Liebich was "outraged" that military (current or ex) have been targeted as terrorists by the Obama Administration.

    I gave him THREE EXAMPLES of military or ex-military who have committed terrorist acts - ONE JUST DAYS AGO.

    To me, this illustrates that these people can be dangerous to others and themselves and their families - witness the POLICE SHOOTING here in Lodi.

    Nowhere did I state that ALL MILITARY OR EX-MILITARY ARE POTENTIAL TERRORISTS.

    If you want to continue your ridiculous contention that that is what I said - go ahead. Your purpose is solely to make my comments into something they weren't OR you have trouble with comprehension issues.

    AND HOW DARE YOU MAKE A STATEMENT WONDERING IF MY HUSBAND "KNOWS I EQUATE HIS SACRIFICES WITH THOSE I NAMED."

    THAT IS A FLAT OUT LIE AND YOU HAVE PURPOSELY FABRICATED IT.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:02 am on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    I didn't claim Adams or Jefferson were present. I said they, "expressed a strong "suspicion of centralized authority," a “reverence for individual liberty,” and beliefs that there were "persistent grave threats to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty" during the writing of the Constitution.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:53 am on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Perhaps you should begin by putting your own comments in perspective Ms. Bobin. "I have yet to see one thing named in this forum by those who claim that President Obama has "forced us away from what the Founder's had intended."

    Obama's DHS released "Hot Spots of Terrorism and other Crimes" on January 31, 2012. On pages 11 and 12 it describes any American that holds traditional patriotic values as a "potential terrorist."
    [sleeping] https://www.hsdl.org/?abstract&did=698920

    P.S. If your husband is, "100% DISABLED due to exposure to Agent Orange" why do you continue to blindly support a President who appoints Michael Taylor to head the FDA and then signs the Monsanto Protection Act?
    [huh]

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:57 am on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2028

    They are YOUR words saying that our serving military and former service members are to be FEARED. I wonder if you husband knows you equate him and his sacrifices with the those that you named? YOUR words "But you will still defend that we have nothing to fear from ex-military, right?"

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:56 am on Mon, Apr 7, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Andrew I can't seem to find any rating organization that supports you claim but I have found many that don't (maybe that's why I'm having such a struggle) perhaps you could point one out to me.

    I'm sure Obama is not really worrying about some laser tag equipment.

    You seem to be defending Putin after his invasion of Crimea to the point of defending his right to occupy just wondering why you would come to Putin's defense while you go to so much trouble to denigrate the Obama administration. You find a conspiracy in everything the US government does but Russia's invasion is just a friendly little vacation into Ukraine. Wondering why.

     
  • Christina Welch posted at 10:37 pm on Sun, Apr 6, 2014.

    Christina Welch Posts: 400

    And incorrect to boot... Adams and Jefferson were not present during the writing of the Constitution. Jefferson even referred to the Philadelphia Convention as a collection of demigods and initially fought against its ratification until it was promised that a Bill of Rights would be added.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:44 pm on Sun, Apr 6, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Paglia wrote: "So despite the sacrifices made by our serving military members, past and present, the liberal stance is that anyone in the military should be feared, not honored and respected. You can NOT honor and respect people you FEAR are terrorists."

    Your comment, Mr. Paglia, is insulting, unwarranted and shameful, to say the least.

    Perhaps you should begin by putting my comment in perspective. This was in response to Mr. Liebich's kvetch about the supposed litany of groups that are or have been put on a terrorist watchlist by the Obama administration (actually, many were already on it, but Liebich would never tell you that).

    The fact is, that due to the egregious history of the Bush Administration's military actions (and many before, i.e., Gulf War, Vietnam, etc.), our military members have returned in various mental states that are harmful to themselves, their families, and to the public in general.

    Before you start making ridiculous statements about "liberals' attitudes about our military, consider my letter from March 6th of this year. Here's the link:

    http://www.lodinews.com/opinion/letters/article_77bc70f7-f1a0-5df3-ae7c-6b90ba1b4bfd.html

    I'll be awaiting your sincere apology for your compulsive, hateful, and erroneous comment.

    And BTW, my husband is a decorated Vietnam vet who, thanks to the decisions of both Dems and Repubs, is now 100% DISABLED due to exposure to Agent Orange.

    Again, awaiting your apology for your spiteful comments.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:28 pm on Sun, Apr 6, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Ms. Bobin said, "I have yet to see one thing named in this forum by those who claim that President Obama has "forced us away from what the Founder's had intended."

    I provided 4.[sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:12 pm on Sun, Apr 6, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Obviously you are struggling with the fact that "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined." Why? A fact is a fact despite your inability to digest it.
    [rolleyes]

    The Obama Administration is giving Russia FREE military equipment AFTER President Obama announced punitive sanctions against Moscow. If "Russia was an ally" "until Putin lost his mind a few months ago" why did you ask, "Curious as to why you feel the need to defend the communist leaders of Russia?"
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:46 am on Sun, Apr 6, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Infowars is not a television show Walter.[sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:45 am on Sun, Apr 6, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    3 million+ daily listeners is much higher than CNN's 383,000 daily listeners.

    P.S. One can't "VIEW" a radio news/talk show Mr. Barrow. One listens.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:50 pm on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1132

    "intentions"

    Perhaps not.

    My analysis from extended observation?

    A frustrated partisan with outspoken personality traits and a mischievous nature who takes extreme pleasure from dissension.

    [smile]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:30 pm on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1132


    DIRECTV search: "Infowars" Returned: 0 results

    Comcast search: "Infowars" Returned: Sorry, we could not find any pages containing "Infowars"

    DISH search: "Infowars" Returned: Your search - Inforwars - did not match any documents. No pages were found containing "inforwars".

    Lyngsat search: "Infowars" Returned: 0 channels found

    TVGuide search: "Infowars" Returned: Did you mean: Nightwars? No TV Listings related to your search found.

    Conspiracy Con search: "Infowars" Returned: About 68,347 results (0.17 seconds)

    [lol]

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 2:33 pm on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2028

    A liberal poster stated "And don't I recall - just off the top of my head - that McVeigh, Hasan and Lopez - all domestic terrorists - and all military or ex-military - have been responsible for shootings and bombings?

    But you will still defend that we have nothing to fear from ex-military, right?

    So despite the sacrifices made by our serving military members, past and present, the liberal stance is that anyone in the military should be feared, not honored and respected. You can NOT honor and respect people you FEAR are terrorists.

    I find it abhorrent that our military men and women, who miss everything from births of their kids to marriages of siblings and deaths of parents, are categorized as potential terrorists. It is sickening that military personnel who put their lives on the line to save others are described as people we should FEAR. How Liberals compare ALL these people who love their country so much they lay down their lives to defend it to the actions of a few inferiorities me and demonstrates how little respect SOME people have for those they disagree with.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:25 pm on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Which are?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:53 pm on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    how many VIEWERS does infowars have? cause their website is getting it's butt kicked by CNN, NYTimes, Huffington, and many many others

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:50 pm on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Andrew for starters how many websites are there because if MSNBC is 500+ and infowars is 360 seems their not far off and still you fail to recognize the top 20 news websites out there, which are quite mainstream. Secondly that laser weaponry you keep bringing up is similar to laser tag and is used in training. Now until Putin lost his mind a few months ago Russia was an ally ( Bush was quite fond of Putin kinda of like cowboy soul brothers) so giving them a laser tag equipment for training is not all that scary and I suspect that the Obama Administration is revisiting their current opinion of Putin.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:36 pm on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Andrew if we wanted to respond to AMERICANDEATHWATCH.com we would
    (http://www.americadeathwatch.com/founding-fathers-were-terrorists.php)

    If you have nothing original to say please refrain from bombarding us with cut and paste from other thinkers. (plagiarism)

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:37 am on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    You are correct about one thing Ms. Bobin. "I have yet to see one thing named in this forum by those who claim that President Obama has "forced us away from what the Founder's had intended."

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:51 am on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    According to Nielsen MSNBC currently averages 394,000 total viewers. CNN currently averages 383,000 total viewers.

    Believing that these "dumb clucks" still tuning in to MSNBC and CNN are "intelligent people" is beyond delusional.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:33 am on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Misunderstood "intentions." Think they were made pretty clear.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:32 am on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    If you think any of this information is new OR solely attributable to the Obama administration, you are quite mistaken.

    Groups of the descriptions you have provided have been on the "lists" for a long time - way before Obama was elected.

    Perhaps it is due to the fact that you have never bothered to pay attention to this stuff and have been fixated on contrails that you believe Obama has caused it. Then, Mr. Liebich, you must be blind.

    Maybe you should read a book on J. Edgar Hoover and find out all of the nefarious things he was up to - much worse than anything you have noted and mostly precipitated by Hoover himself. His paranoia pretty much ruled this country for decades.

    And don't I recall - just off the top of my head - that McVeigh, Hasan and Lopez - all domestic terrorists - and all military or ex-military - have been responsible for shootings and bombings?

    But you will still defend that we have nothing to fear from ex-military, right?

    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:58 am on Sat, Apr 5, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Walter, Infowars ranks 364th in the United States.

    Apparenty you don't understand how many websites there are in the United States.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:37 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Mr. Barrow, I believe you simply don't understand my intentions.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:36 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Obama's DHS released a report entitled "Hot Spots of Terrorism and other Crimes." On pages 11 and 12 it describes any American that holds traditional patriotic values as a "potential terrorist."

    Obama’s former DHS head Janet Napolitano declared American servicemen and women returning from Iraq and Afghanistan to be the "true terrorists."

    Obama's FBI issued a document that urges citizens and law enforcement officers to call the joint Terrorism Task Force if they encountered "defenders of the US Constitution against the federal government," or any citizens that "make numerous references to the US Constitution."

    Obama's DOJ manual entitled “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism” listed the following as someone with "Terrorist inclinations":

    (Someone who attends expositions and/or clinics that teach people how to cope, prepare food for storage, and basic survival techniques. Of course this would include virtually all Mormons and members of virtually any Christian religion, since a belief in the "End of the World," and the need to be prepared for it, one of the basic beliefs of Christianity.)

    During the writing of the Constitution luminaries such as George Washington, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison all expressed a strong "suspicion of centralized authority," a “reverence for individual liberty,” and beliefs that there were "persistent grave threats to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty."

    The centralized federal government from which our Founding Fathers hoped to protect us now considers the characteristics of our Founding Fathers to be indicators of “terrorism" Ms. Bobin. If you can't see that we are being "forced away from what the Founder's had intended" you must be blind.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:21 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is."
    -Winston Churchill

    What part of "under a 2010 agreement, as many as 25,000 soldiers can be in the Crimea" don't you understand?
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:08 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    It's Obama's National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) that has been providing the Russian Federation with the Multiple Integrated Laser Engagement System (MILES).

    [sleeping] http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/03/u-s-gives-russia-free-military-equipment-used-by-army-marines/

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:01 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1132

    "I simply move along..."

    [lol]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:00 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Personally, I think you are in dire need of a reality check.

    Infowars
    Global Rank 1,309
    Rank in United States 364

    MSNBC
    Global Rank 2,256
    Rank in the United States 542

    Source: http://www.alexa.com/ [sleeping]

    But did I even say anything about ranking Mr. Barrow? No, I didn't. I said, "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined"

    A search of the phrase 'cnn msnbc viewership decline' on Yahoo will yield 2,990,000 articles Mr. Barrow. Each of these 2,990,000 articles will clearly substantiate the fact that "Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined."
    [sleeping]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:59 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1132

    "365th"

    [lol]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:09 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Ignoring the fact that Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined is delusional Walter.

    This is truly shameful - bottom line is that if this number is correct, there are 3X more dumb clucks in this nation than there are intelligent people.

    Pretty dismaying. Maybe the DPRK is looking better all the time - as long as you don't need food to eat and aren't related to or affianced to Kim!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:51 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    It is incredible how naive some people are about world politics and about our own government. To declare that the president is even anything close to Kim Jong-Un is just ridiculous - that is unless Obama has ordered the execution of ANY of his relatives or former fiances in the White House basement without our knowledge.

    I have yet to see one thing named in this forum by those who claim that President Obama has "forced us away from what the Founder's had intended."

    More damaging has been the Supreme Court and its right-wing decisions that are destroying our democracy and allowing the rich and large corporations to run the government via their virtually appointed representatives.

    Don't pretend to be shocked when you are referring to the next leader of the US as President Adelson - the first Jewish president in our history.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:50 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Jerome in the same post you claim the term should be a sign of respect and then you admit you use the term derogatorily? Are you playing dumb or did you not understand what you posted?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:46 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    I checked another site and found infowars as ranked 365th in the US and well over 1000 worldwide well behind the top players including CNN.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:39 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Andrew infowars is not even mentioned in the top 15 most popular news websites although CNN is along with New York Times, Huffington Post, ABC, NBC, BBC etc., but no infowars to be found. Maybe I should check the top conspiracy theory websites.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:03 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    False statements and accusations won't help the right win back power. The right is going to have to be more honest about their intentions to win back the American people's trust. This of course will not get them elected but at least they will not be held in such low esteem.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:57 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    with all of the conspiracies you can dig up for the good ol USA I am surprised that you feel Putin's election history is democratic. The man is was and will be a dictator nothing less and the recent fawning over him by the right is a bit nauseating I bet Ronnies rolling in his grave.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:50 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    A word by word text search of the article you quoted sent me to info wars also the BBC article stated nothing to substantiate the wakeupcall post I just re-read it I suggest you do the same. If I seem confused after reading your post it is probably due to their absurdity.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:44 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Ignoring the fact that Infowars has 3X more listeners than CNN and MSNBC combined is delusional Walter.
    [beam]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:38 pm on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    According to Pelosi "Our Founders Wanted" Obamacare Jerome...[lol]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:07 am on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Russia has not been communist since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. Most of the countries of the former USSR are now democratic.

    Try to catch up!
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:58 am on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Confusion on your part is an understatement. wakeupcall's source was rt.com as the blog's post clearly indicates.

    What do you think "Source: http://rt.com/" means? [lol]

    I also provided you with the original RT article the wakeupcall blog post was citing.

    "Extreme" NO. "incorrect" NO. The truth. YES [sleeping]

    The BBC link substantiated both the wakeupcall blog post as well as the RT article.

    I have provided NOTHING from Infowars.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:26 am on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    On the other hand, I find it curious if not disingenuous of those who would take "Dear Leader" as anything but a show of respect if they believe he's "led" us down the proper path during his presidency. While I haven't meant to indicate that I've agreed with hardly anything this man has done to the United States of America, my use of the term has only been to show just how far he's forced us away from what the Founder's had intended.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:16 am on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    After five years of President Barack Hussein Obama's administration, it has become clear to me that one of the more important "changes" he promised us were forthcoming was to move us from a republic to a more socialist government. I had "hoped" that it was only a nightmare from which we might all awaken; but no, with his associations and actions, there's little doubt that if he has his way by the time the trucks are carrying the Obama's possessions from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, DC, everyone will be referring to him and maybe even his successor as "Dear Leader." In fact, one of his now infamous Executive Orders may make it a requirement that the title be used when referring to whomever takes residence in the White House.

    Such a title could hardly be considered name-calling, since it's appropriate for all other socialist leaders in recent history. Clearly the term "dummy" is disparaging; "Dear Leader" would be a moniker he would accept with pride and as a symbol of success that the "hope and change" he promised actually came to fruition. My only HOPE is that maybe - just maybe - the American people will wake up from whatever has them held in their deep slumber to push back from this horrible national nightmare to return us to our former greatness.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:10 am on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    It feels that I have answered your questions and checked your websites can you please answerer mine? Why you feel the need to defend the communist leaders of Russia? Also curious as to why you believe every conspiracy website but never any news organizations? Do you believe all info coming over the internet to be more reliable than established news organizations or perhaps you believe there is a vast conspiracy among all the employees of all the news organizations in the world.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:07 am on Fri, Apr 4, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    I'm not so sleepy as confused your first post sited wakeupcall which I found to be extreme yes. Then you claim to have sited rt.com which is not your original claim or the article you quoted. Also the BBC article you site is not the article you quoted at 2:40 on Thurs. that article comes from (shocker here) infowars the BBC article you site actually disagrees with your premise that Russia has not invaded. Are you confused or are you intentional trying to deceive believing your quotes won't be checked? Either way your postings as usual are incorrect.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:55 pm on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1132

    Delusional

    Perhaps Adam should consider submitting his "letters" to Infowars??

    [smile]


     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:55 pm on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1132

    "I simply move along..."

    Not so.

    Adam places a faux fire hydrant on the sidewalk...

    And everyone stops by to leave a little something behind.

    Everyone, including you.

    [beam]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:07 pm on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I have to say that after reading the phrase "The current dummy in the White House..." I too was quite turned off.

    But even more startling is a declaration from one who often uses the appellation, "Dear Leader" for the current "dummy" decrying the flagrant use of "name-calling" here.

    Certainly makes one wonder how one justifies the use of certain descriptives over others.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 2:40 pm on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Obscure website? Good grief. [rolleyes]

    The source cited in the blog post I provided is rt.com [sleeping] http://rt.com/news/duma-denounces-blackseafleet-deal-401/

    Would you prefer the BBC?
    [sleeping] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26403297

    As for Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man voted to impose draconian austerity measures on the Ukrainian people as part of an IMF package designed to facilitate neoliberal looting of the economy and impoverish millions of Ukrainians. The IMF set aside around $18 billion to “rescue” Ukraine’s destroyed economy Obama blames on the rule of Viktor Yanukovich, a democratically elected president who was replaced by a Arseniy Yatsenyuk junta installed by Obama's State Department. In addition to IMF booty, Obama kicked in an additional $1 billion. Yatsenyuk and Obama are selling it and YOU are buying it.

    WAKE-UP!

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:05 pm on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    I've heard Arseniy Yatsenyuk speak on a couple of occasi0ons and he seems to believe his country has been invaded but I'm sure your obscure website is better informed that the acting leader of Ukraine. Curious as to why you feel the need to defend the communist leaders of Russia? Also curious as to why you believe every conspiracy website but never any news organizations?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:10 am on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Despite the propaganda spewing from your televisions Russia hasn't invaded" anyone. WAKE-UP!

    http://wakeupcallnews.blogspot.com/2014/03/russia-is-allowed-to-have-25000-troops.html?m=1#sthash.LdKExd2w.dpuf

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:46 am on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1530

    [thumbup]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:24 am on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    As someone who's had more than his share of name-calling in my direction, I've never had much tolerance for the habit. It's one thing disagreeing with the President of the United States of America - it's quite another when instead of discussing those differences with heart-felt and fact-filled objection, the second thought from an author to call him a "dummy."

    Right or wrong - I really don't care - but usually when I read anything that starts off like this, I simply move along to the next article. And that's precisely what I did here.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:10 am on Thu, Apr 3, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1535

    Thank goodness, for a minute there I thought we were going to have an Obama is a weak tool rant and then Adam throws me a curveball with an Obama is an evil genius rant.

    Poor Russia, so appalled at the actions of the USA they have to invade a sovereign nation, way to defend Mother Russia comrade.

     

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