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Marcia Savage needs to take a deeper look at her Democratic Party

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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 6:05 am, Wed Aug 10, 2011.

Marcia Savage loves her Democratic party (“Questions for Lodi Republicans.”) It would be nice if she loved the Constitution as much (and that goes for Republicans also).

Before I start with my little history lesson on the her party, she should know that without Republican support Medicare and Medicaid wouldn't have passed, and Nixon gave us the Environmental Protection Agency. The Democratic Party of today traces their roots back to Andrew Jackson, who was known for his hatred for the English and the Indians, and who was pro-slavery.

The answer to every question I ask is the Democratic Party. To what party did every state that seceded from the Union belong? To what party did the founders of the KKK belong? What party passed the "Jim Crow" laws that gave us "blacks only" and "whites only" bathrooms, etc.? To what party did the president belong who interned thousands of Americans of Japanese decent? What party tried to boycott and filibuster the passage of the Civil Rights Bill, with one of its leaders being Al Gore Sr.? Sen. Robert Byrd, a leader in the KKK, was known as the conscience of the Senate for what party? To what party did the governor belong who stood in the doorway to stop black students from enrolling into college? What party's fiscal policies have destroyed job creation and given us the greatest spending spree and deficits in American history? In the raising of the debt ceiling agreement, which party put in cuts to Social Security?

The Democratic Party is not the working man's/ woman's friend. The bigger government gets, the less freedom its citizens enjoy. And this false belief that government can legislate job creation is straight out of the communist handbook.

The scariest words in the English language are: "We're from the government and we're here to help." It's surreal that the people who are destroying our economy call people radicals and terrorists who want fiscal sanity to save Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Ron Portal


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  • Robert Chapman posted at 7:01 pm on Sun, Aug 14, 2011.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    JOANNE BOBIN posted "conversation with a neighbor whose LESS HALF is a friend of his." OK, I have asked some pretty educated people if they had ever heard of the term LESS HALF. Nobody had a clue.So Professor Bobin, just what in the the heck is a "LESS HALF", or perhaps it is just a term you made up trying to impress someone?

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:13 pm on Fri, Aug 12, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin's name came up a couple of weeks ago, when I was talking with a friend's neighbor's cousin who has a brother that knew Ms Bobin's neighbor. This neighbor thought she saw Ms Bobin do something that was questionable and now we all have substantiation of Ms Bobin's propensity to do what should not be considered...

    Ms Bobin.. you should be ashamed...as I am of you.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 2:10 pm on Fri, Aug 12, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Kindseth's name came up a couple of weeks ago in conversation with a neighbor whose less half is a friend of his. My first thought was, "That figures!"

    Men and women have been killed and maimed in war protecting all citizens, but apparently Mr. Kindseth thinks only the non-stupid, non-whiners and non-screamers deserve it. And if your grandkids resent protecting those with whom you disagree, they should never have joined the military. You should be ashamed!

  • John Kindseth posted at 6:31 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    John Kindseth Posts: 246

    Thank you Mr. Kinderman. As a father of 6 children , countless grandcildren, and now with 4 of them in various branches of the military, I hope the screamers n whiners bleating below sleep good tonight, because any of the four 4 kids could be casualties to protect these pitiful citizens's rights to be stupid.

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 7:27 pm on Wed, Aug 10, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2370

    When it comes to trying to analyze why things are the way they are politically, it's anyone's business.

    As far as the United States being a free country, we are free because of those brave men and their families who created it and then because of the men and women who have fought valiantly in so many wars since to maintain it.

    Neither "Republicans" nor "Democrats" because of their party affiliation have anything to do with us being free.

  • Mike Adams posted at 6:39 pm on Wed, Aug 10, 2011.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1574

    Good sakes. How often are we going to read or hear this same re-hashing of ancient history? Democrats used to ..... And they......... Most belonged to........ The thing the writer did not address (perhaps because he doesn't know any better) that while the democratic party USED to be all these things, these things are now all attributes of the current republican party. I'd like to think Marcia Savage left that out to avoid embarrasing our friends from the right, many right here who have a multitude of assumptions about the lives and practices of many many good Americans who prefer to vote democratic. Like Rush Limbaugh.

    I think a good case was made about the shift of what the writer thinks is important, at least to him, I don't know what his tome is supposed to prove, was that when Senator Trent Lott mis-spoke about Strom Thurmond (he was just trying to make an old man feel good) and mentioned Thurmond's foray into presidential politics as a segregationist, was that he could point to not a single piece of legislation he authored, supported, sponsored, or voted for, that would have established some equality for all, or righted a long standing wrong, or given a minority citizen any sort of opportunity. Not a single one. None. And he'd been in congress for some time by then.

    Mr. Paglia, I see no viable 3rd party in even the far future. Any candidate that is not either a democrat or republican draws votes away from one of the two long established parties.

    Mr. Kinderman, there are a substantial number of republicans who will never vote for a democrat. I'm thinking there are far more members of this group than those who will only vote democrat. And what's it our business anyway. It's a free country (thanks to the democrats).

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:53 am on Wed, Aug 10, 2011.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2370

    Mr. Paglia, I really believe that in spite of the accuracy in your "lesser of two evils" theory as to why folks don't take a third party seriously because of their belief that “D” or “R” are their only choices, in my opinion the real reason rests on the certainty that at least as far as conservatives (mostly Republicans) are concerned, such a move to a third party usually results in liberals (mostly Democrats) reaping the benefits in votes.

    There are certain groups of Americans who will NEVER vote for anyone other than a Democrat; and their numbers are growing as things get worse (sadly we're a nation of Henrietta Hughes's - give me a car and a kitchen, I'll give you my vote!!) As such, regardless of the abysmal failures that define the Obama administration, I'm certain that he will win in 2012. Unless the Republicans put up someone who would invigorate and rally its base and Independents that only a Reagan-esque candidate could do, it just won't happen. We're looking for someone who will do something for America; Democrats look to someone who will promise to do something for them personally. Amazingly, even though those promises are worthless, there are so many stupid people out there who actually believe them. And then we have those who simply don’t care. Oh, but what about those citizens over the age of 18 who won’t even take the time to register to vote, much less cast a ballot? Imagine what might happen if all Americans actually took their responsibility seriously.

    Tossing in a third party into any presidential election results with only freedom-loving Americans taking the plunge to vote for him/her thereby reducing the Republican Party’s chances of defeating Obama; and as far as I’m concerned this should be the primary impetus behind Election 2012.

    Creating a viable third party to replace either the Republican or Democrat parties will take a long time. Now is not the time to attempt such a drastic move as that will only guarantee four more years of President Obama. While I’m still confident that the nation will survive, what will it take to undo the damage that has already been foisted upon us that will be certain to only get exponentially worse by a president bent on destroying this Republic with no worries about another election? That is unless his first action in 2013 will be to act to repeal the Twenty-Second Amendment.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:32 am on Wed, Aug 10, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2115

    Which party did the country leaders belong to who lead us into this financial debt emergence?

    That's right BOTH of them.

    too bad more people won't look at third party groups but rather stick with the "lesser of two evils" they think are their only choices.

  • Robert Chapman posted at 6:59 am on Wed, Aug 10, 2011.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Mr. Portal, you need to add to your list of the "what party" questions. To what party did the president who opened the coffers of Social Security funds to be pillaged by politicians belong?


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