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Posted: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:03 am, Sat Nov 10, 2012.

Don't be confused by this letter. My opinions expressed here are not to endorse or condemn growing "pot" outdoors. My concern is for our liberties as citizens, and to ensure the council fully considers the extended ramifications of their actions.

The ban was put in place "to ensure the legal uses of marijuana do not result in sight, smell or criminal spillover." Again to be clear, this is a discussion of the legal growing of marijuana. If it's against the law it's a crime. It's that simple.

The ban was placed on legal uses. No one was breaking a law, but they are now required by the council's ban to stop. If the action was legal, then the council should have asked staff to study the issue without a ban.

Regarding sight, if I don't like your motor home parked in your driveway, your trees that block my view or the color of your home, I have no course of action. And I shouldn't. It's your property, not mine, and (as long as it's legal) you have the right to do as you please.

Smell — interesting concept trying to ban an odor or fragrance; not to say it hasn't been done before when it's proven a detriment to the population as a whole — waste disposal sites. Would this also apply to my neighbor's weekend barbecues or the smell of McDonald's on Lodi Avenue that fills the neighborhood? And how would staff define the word "smell"? When is something an odor and when is it a fragrance?

Criminal spillover: It goes without saying that if criminals are choosing to break into a property, it isn't the fault of the property owner. If there's a rash of car break-ins in a neighborhood, should a ban be placed on parking cars outdoors?

If your neighbor was growing tomatoes that grew 6 feet high, filled the morning air with their odor/fragrance and were being stolen, the council wouldn't consider a ban. Why? Because it's legal.

Michael Kahl


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  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 9:31 am on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

    99er Posts: 119

    Miguel I can see You have some concerns but some of them are of the "boogie man" variety. These "boogie men" attitudes that most humans (including me) will still fear even as adults despite what our brain tells us. ... We should be able to draw honest opinions about cannabis if we look carefully at the Colorado and Washington experience. I will put forth the theory that ..violent crime will drop in those states as less alcohol is consumed. My personal choice would be OUR not using any alcohol or Pot....let me repeat . I would rather our kids did NO recreational drugs, but if I had to choose one drug our kids used,. it certainly would not be beer ! Alcohol is double dangerous. Do You remember the first time You drove a car after couple beers ?? Was it fun ? Did You feel you could do anything ? ...that 'superhuman' feeling is dangerous to YOUR children. and my children too. ...Lastly, by looking at your post I'd say You have family or friends that are trying to change your mind on this subject.... Its really OK Not to jump on the 'smoke weed band wagon'!! .....IF You don't favor pot consumption for whatever reasons it is OK with me and I hope OK with everybody in Your life..
    Good Luck

  • miguel johnson posted at 1:06 pm on Mon, Nov 12, 2012.

    Miguel 128 Posts: 2

    All things considered, if you choose to make the legality argument, you should probably consider the fact that federal law still considers smoking and cultivating marijuana illegal. And lets be completely honest, any type of drug whatever it may be, has the statistical outcome to attract a more than unsavory crowd. It's bad enough that anyone with a cough, cut, or bruise can go and get a medical marijuana card in this lovely state, without any inclination of needing it for a "real" medical reason, so why allow it to affect the citizens in this town who want nothing to do with the ILLEGAL drug. When someones recreational or medical use of marijuana begins to affect me and my families safety and health,(I don't care how many people want to claim it isn't bad for me) that is when it becomes a huge concern. And the issue is going way beyond just normal growing, these people who are getting these so called "medical marijuana" cards for some supposed serious illness, have the state legal ability to grow up to 99 plants, That's an insane amount of marijuana. I don't see how that is justifiable to have for a single person to be using, and goes much deeper than a couple plants outside, which is where the true problem lies. Not to mention the people who are selling the marijuana they are growing, there is absolutely ZERO pressure on these people because and i quote from our city police, "it is legal for them to be growing the marijuana and gives us no evidence of distribution." This is a huge problem in our city and our state and the fact that people think its ok to so blatantly disrespect others around them just blows me away. I'm all for the ban and i think its great that the city is looking for a way to make this right. Look I'm all for people who truly need the drug using it, such as cancer patients, and truly ill individuals, but not these people who go get a so called legal card, because they have a tooth ache. It then just becomes ridiculous.

  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 10:29 am on Mon, Nov 12, 2012.

    99er Posts: 119

    Michael Kahl, I agree with You 95%. I also believe that if We tempt our brothers and sisters we have some responsibility. That is why when I left my salmon fishing gear outside in my back yard in plain site of neighbors back yards and it got stolen I did not start threatening them. I put up 7 or 8 " 500.00 dollar reward posters" on my local light post. I figured $500. bucks was plenty for a 'friend' of the thief to drop a dime on him..
    Nobody stepped forward to collect the $500 but 1 couple and several other individuals left the neighborhood and most importantly I haven't been hit again, and since I left the posters up I believe the criminals know that I am serious and I will pursue them with what I can.
    Hooray for Colorado and Washington in choosing to let the 'individuals' decide rather than the Gov.


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